You fail at being intelligent.

will take a few years before Americans will be able to comtemplate that there might be something fishy about the whole thing

If there were any conspiracy, the insurance companies and their millions of stockholders, their laywers, their spies and their investigators would have proved it long time ago.... unless you wanna add them to the neverending list of involved ..lol

I can't imagine how frustrated you conspiracy buffs must be when you already know that in a few years,president Bush will retire with all the benefits of a former president. He will live out the rest of his life in luxury. And in time history will judge his presidency. And time has a way of softening the reality. I vividly remember how the rest of the world hated Nixon. Now that he is gone,he is remembered for his diplomatic triumphs and watergate is a mere footnote.

The current president Bush will almost certainly be looked at as a hero.

you know i often think about insurance companies.

id really like to look into that side of it...who were the insurance companies who had to pay for everything. maybe next time

well another good day in the "office"..kudos to the lack of shit slinging :)
night all i'm going to have some wine... a cigar and relax in a hot tub.

...and thats your best comeback?

Ah well perhaps I was expecting a bit too much

Yeah you really shouldnt talk about those 2 fucking huge planes that did massive damage to building 1 and 2. Because thats just a small detail isnt it imbecile?

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Franck did it.

Do your research. Everything you have listed has been counter explained...ad nauseam.

As far as I am concerned Achims Razor comes into play as well as a statement once made by Dr. Carl Sagen...extraordinary claims requires extraordinary proof.

You conspiratists do not even have ordinary proof. You only have...speculation...obfuscation...and fabrication.

Brad, if Fire cannot melt steel then what can? Liquid hot magma? I didn't see space ships pouring magma into the building before it collapsed. It burned afterwards, and it had melted... why? Friction? sure, but what would perpetuate the burning afterwards?
The other argument I've seen is the explanation that if a tree falls to one side when you cut out a wedge then why didn't the twin towers...

Ok, Two obvious answes, Trees are not perfectly proportional weight is not equally distributed from one side to another. So if you cut it in half it's going to fall in one direction. The wedge in the tree also causes it to fall to that side, the weaker side. The twin towers were struck at the top of the building not the bottom, so they wouldn't weaken one side or another. A friend of mine from University,his father was an engineer on the project, the twin towers. He was a structural engineer and made some changes to the proposed construction. After the buildings both fell perfectly he was credited for it and praised by his peers. You have to marvel at how two buildings were built so perfectly that they fell directly into their base. Imagine the collateral damage if 100 stories fell to one side or another.


I lack a physics degree, I don't give a shit about physics.If I fall it hurts, I know that sex feels good and food tastes delicious I don't care why. You are stretching the facts to suit your arguments and frankly they're weak.

I hope you're right, I hope there aren't people out there that want to harm my people because they disagree with us. I hope our govt planted a demolition so that I can blame a controlled group of people. But unfortunately the evidence doesn't seem to support that.

Not that anyone will really take notice to my post but how could anyone with an IQ higher then 110 not see that the towers were blown up?

The fire was no where near hot enough to melt the metal keeping the building up and even if it did the floors affected would have taken several minutes in which case you would see the building mold and become disfigured.

Watch the video of the tower's failing, if you look close you can actually see the towers rock, you can see stuff breaking the office windows as the building's collapsed.

Lets even overlook those facts. The FBI has named the terriost involved. Would they not be dead? There is evidence and proof some of these guys are still alive. What is the likely hood that more then one of these guys had an identical twin?

Also, do you recall hearing about the plane that was supposed to of hit the white house but never made it? The crew takes over and crashes the plan? Why not try to contact the FAA and find out how to put the plane back on auto pilot or if auto pilot is messed up at least attempt to land the plane.

The reason is the plane was blown clear out of the sky. This is why there was debris miles away from the crash site, metal, magizane and other random materials. Eye witnesses even say they heard an explosion before the plane feel from the sky.

Lets move on to the plane that hit the pentagon. Now, it has been reported that 757 hit the pentagon, now lets just say this really happened. In order to hit the pentagon the plane would have to fly extremely low and pass directly over the freeway to hit its target. If this were to really happen the force would have blown cars off the road miles into the air and the surrounding trees would have been broken in half by the force of the plane going so fast directly overhead, think of what a hurricane winds do to tree's and cars.

I am not going to sit here an say who did this or who didn't do this but if you actually think that what the media says about the so called "attack" then I feel really bad for you, because anyone with a brain could smell bullshit right away due to simple facts called the laws of physics.

My two cents.

My IQ is over 110, and I know you do not have to melt steel to weaken it :2 cents:

Please, show us the evidence.

http://www.welfarestate.com/911/

One of sites i have come upon theres many others, go there, google the hijackers that are still alive you will find them seen over and over again over the years, some have done interviews saying they were not involved when they are dead, and the fbi has changed the list since some of these people have been found alive. do simple research you will see for yourself

To weaken steel you need to expose it to fire for long periods of time. Jet fuel does not burn at degrees high enough to even begin to melt steel. The fires where red, with black smoke which means they where lacking oxygen which in turn means they where even cooler than regular fires.

There are examples of building who burned for 20 hours without failing. The fire melt / weaken steel does not make sense, it just doesnt if you look at it with an open mind.

Check this video of the windsor tower in madrid which burned for more than 20 hours, engulfed in flames.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=j2_srNT8-Ow

And another one https://youtube.com/watch?v=th2bn...elated&search=

The impact of the planes did little damage, tests have shown that the impact did not make more damage than high velocity winds which the towers where build to withstand, not to mention they where built to withstand multiple airplane impact.

that doesn't count for some fox-brainwashed americans, but for most of the rest of the world it's clear. the truth will surface eventually everywhere.

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Care to back that smiley with some facts? I can give you some right now, the impact of the plane was as about as strong as constant hurricane winds. The towers where built to withstand it and more.

did that building that burned for 20 hours have a plane at high speeds fly into first? But that is just a little detail.

keep beating a dead horse maybe it'll come to life :1orglaugh

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Oh man, youre fucked in your head.

Did you even see the damage those planes did? How the fucking fuck can you even compare that to wind? Are you nuts?? Wait, yes you are.

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whats this 'we' talk
your a Canadian.. last time I checked they have never as a country launched people into space

Imbecile, a plane flew into the building. Stop crying about fires. A PLANE flew into the building.

I saw a docu on discovery about a chinese warehouse that collapsed. Before it collapsed it started rocking. Walls broke down, windows broke etc. So your above 110 iq theory means SHIT because you dont know SHIT. You are just suggesting shit you dont know shit about.


If you read some more instead of a few idiotic conpspiracy sites you would know these people are simply people with the same name. No secret or conspiracy here. Only if you read it on one of those nut sites. Thats simply it. People with the same name are still alive.

Thanks for proving yourself wrong. Cars and lightpoles were damaged in the path were the plane flew. MORON.

Yeah well you 2 cents mean shit and you are not in a position to talk about "anyone with a brain" because its clear you dont know NOTHING about the subject. Nothing but some BULLSHIT you read on conspiracy sites. Fucking imbecile.

Yeah, and? I guess you missed the fact that the buildings where designed to withstand multiple impacts from airliners.

You know..... I never thought of that really. Billions of dollars were paid out in insurance; It was even mentioned in this thread that the owner of the WTC took out insurance against terrorist attacks shortly before 9/11. On would think the insurance companies would be moving the moon to prove this wasn't done by terrorists and instead done by Bush.

the planes the planes..lol

give ma break..the planes smashed into a steel lattice

they did fuck all to the over all integrity of the building


i understand it is easier to swallow the party line instead of thinking for yourselves.

for Franck..you just go have a look at your lightpoles that were knocked out of the ground by the passing plane.

you think that is what they look like when a supposed plane smashes into something? what the fuck is wrong with you? you are attributing two planes bringing down a huge steel building...but you think another plane doesnt even fuck up some lightpoles..it just gently lifts them from the ground and puts them down real nice like..lol

all you guys who sput venom from your fingetips and say we proved you guys wrong etc ec....you haven't done shit....we show you countless times where you are wrong...you ignore it and start screaming about planes

you remind me of monkeys slinging shit from their asses

This is a most interesting post.

It's not secret that Bush enjoys the lowest popularity rating of any recent president. Everyone is complaining about how we are still in Iraq. I don't think Bush ever intended in leaving Iraq - and maybe he's smarter than all of us think.

In the 1980s when Iraq invaded Iran, the ships in the Persian Gulf carrying our oil came under attack by Iran. The US military had to step in to "protect shipping in the Gulf". (It's also a little known fact that the US pretty much dstroyed Iran's navy in less than a week.)

Twenty years from now when the oil starts running out, when it becomes harder to find and more expensive to pull out of the ground, we could see WWIII. We'll be fighting all of the other countries who need the same oil we do. China will be involved, and make no mistake they are in fact a world power (and huge!). Japan too will be involved; They've already gone to war with us over oil in WWII.

The Middle East will be the battlefront.

Hopefully by then we'll still have a huge presence in the Middle East. And only then will we look at President Bush and his crowd in a different light.

Im sorry i guess you were never informed.....IT IS ILLEGAL FOR YOU TO LEAVE IRAQ...if you leave too early..you have declared WAR ON THE WORLD.

I guess that was never explained to everyone..or wait it was..just not anywhere any american citizens would find it

you are in there illegally....you cant just leave because your soldiers are dying....its almost like you guys have no clue what is really going on in your country at all...but you seem to think you guys know everything..and are sure of it
.....not singling you Rochard...but your post was a sure sign you dont know the real issues about why you guys are there.

Fire alone did not bring down either WTC. The towers were hit by huge airplanes and there we multiple reasons the towers came down.

You can't compare this to any other building that has ever caught fire because these buildings weren't slamed by huge airplanes and didn't have huge gaps open up in their side. Jesus Christ, I'm still stunned that the moment the planes hit the towers didn't fall done.

It's been said that the WTC towers were built to withstand the impact of a airplane. Well, I'm sure they tested that a lot by building huge towers in the desert and slamming passenger airplanes into them. What I'm saying is they build them to withstand the impact of an airplane, but it was never tested in real life.

Only once before has an airplane hit a building in a similar way. It was during WWII when a US bombed crashed into the Empire State building. The Empire State Building didn't fall. However, the differences are stagging - the plane was much smaller, the fuel was of a much lower grade, and the building itself was much more concrete than it was steel.

The impact of the planes slamming into the towers, the resulting structural damage, and the fire combined to bring those buildings down.

damn it..lol

wow....nice input stickey

we are all basking in the glow of your obvious superior intelligence

You are fucking insane! As in really. Fucking amazing.

i particularly enjoyed your example of a piece of shit chinese warehouse in china shaking to pieces...and comparing that to the wtc towers


shows me you really got it all together

Stfu wacko, go seek professional help. Youre delusional.

Like someone else said about you Phoenix, why the hell would anybody do business with you. Doing business with mentally unstable people is pretty damn stupid.

Dude, how can you compare winds, with a Boeing 767 - in high speed - filled up with jet fuel - penetrating a building and blowing up inside?

Not to mention, the high energy from the explosion ripped of the fire isolation in WTC.