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Primal 09-04-2004 06:29 PM

The Passion of The Christ. Damn
 
Did they beat the shit out of Him like they showed on the movie?

I didnt readed the Bible or have the intention to, but is anyone here know the story that can anwser my question?

The movie focus alot on the punishement, like if it was really true, but since that Hollywood as the nasty habit on overreact to things, Im really curious about it.

Im not going to see it again I cant understand why 2.4MIll copies were sold on the first 24 hours, maybe cristins, but come on.....

15 minutes of Him taking that beat?

zdwebber 09-04-2004 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by Primal
Did they beat the shit out of Him like they showed on the movie?

I didnt readed the Bible or have the intention to, but is anyone here know the story that can anwser my question?

The movie focus alot on the punishement, like if it was really true, but since that Hollywood as the nasty habit on overreact to things, Im really curious about it.

Im not going to see it again I cant understand why 2.4MIll copies were sold on the first 24 hours, maybe cristins, but come on.....

15 minutes of Him taking that beat?

they beat the shit out of who?

strats 09-04-2004 06:33 PM

they whipped him, then nailed iron ties through his hands and feet on a cross then raised it and left him there.

BlackCrayon 09-04-2004 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by zdwebber
they beat the shit out of who?
jesus fucking christ

tootie 09-04-2004 06:36 PM

http://www.bible.ca/d-crucifixion-of-Jesus.htm

pornguy 09-04-2004 06:38 PM

The sad thing about it is that the evidence shows both things.

It really depends in who you ask. A historian, or someone with the religious twist.

If you read about the way some of the criminals were punished then it is easy to believe they did beat him that way, as a standard method.

But at the same time some of the Romans were not too sure about him, and might have been scared to do that.

If you want a good read, pick up The Hiram Key.

Funbrunette 09-04-2004 06:38 PM

I can't get myself to watch this movie because of it being so graphic. Don't get me wrong I love blood, gore, guts and more blood, but in movies....Not taken from perhaps actual events (I'm not catholic, but still refuse to watch this) :(

Linguist 09-04-2004 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Primal
Did they beat the shit out of Him like they showed on the movie?

I didnt readed the Bible or have the intention to, but is anyone here know the story that can anwser my question?

You don't have to be religious to read the bible..


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Primal 09-04-2004 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by Funbrunette
I can't get myself to watch this movie because of it being so graphic. Don't get me wrong I love blood, gore, guts and more blood, but in movies....Not taken from perhaps actual events (I'm not catholic, but still refuse to watch this) :(
If thats so tak emy word man.
Do you dare to watch it.
I sure wont be watching again.

Primal 09-04-2004 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by strats
they whipped him, then nailed iron ties through his hands and feet on a cross then raised it and left him there.
That part I know, what I dont know is if its true that the whipe had those nasty fucking nails or whatever it was and ripped flesh out of him man.

That is fucking unhuman.

boobmaster 09-04-2004 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by Primal
Did they beat the shit out of Him like they showed on the movie?

I didnt readed the Bible or have the intention to, but is anyone here know the story that can anwser my question?

The movie focus alot on the punishement, like if it was really true, but since that Hollywood as the nasty habit on overreact to things, Im really curious about it.

Im not going to see it again I cant understand why 2.4MIll copies were sold on the first 24 hours, maybe cristins, but come on.....

15 minutes of Him taking that beat?

Noone knows what the actual crucifixion was like but it WAS a bloody mess. Comparing the bible account with accounts of how the Romans usually treated persons they were crucifying, it is clear that he was severely abused. (e.g., the crown of thorns was not something that was generally part of a normal crucifixion).

Gibson's account is far more accurate than any previous account of the death of Christ. This is probably the most horrible way to die. He was a man of peace, completely innocent of the charges against him. He didn't have to go through it. He did it because he loved you and you continue to spit in his face and mock him.

boobmaster 09-04-2004 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by Funbrunette
I can't get myself to watch this movie because of it being so graphic. Don't get me wrong I love blood, gore, guts and more blood, but in movies....Not taken from perhaps actual events (I'm not catholic, but still refuse to watch this) :(
People have a dificult time watching this movie because deep down in their souls they know it should have been THEM on that cross. He died for THEM.

xclusive 09-04-2004 06:49 PM

I think it was probably worse than in the movie as hard as that is to believe because they were making an example of him...

Primal 09-04-2004 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
Noone knows what the actual crucifixion was like but it WAS a bloody mess. Comparing the bible account with accounts of how the Romans usually treated persons they were crucifying, it is clear that he was severely abused. (e.g., the crown of thorns was not something that was generally part of a normal crucifixion).
Yeah I saw it on the movie, they did the same for comum criminals.

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Originally posted by boobmaster

Gibson's account is far more accurate than any previous account of the death of Christ. This is probably the most horrible way to die. He was a man of peace, completely innocent of the charges against him. He didn't have to go through it. He did it because he loved you and you continue to spit in his face and mock him.

Yes this is what I wanted to know.

boobmaster 09-04-2004 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by Primal
That part I know, what I dont know is if its true that the whipe had those nasty fucking nails or whatever it was and ripped flesh out of him man.

That is fucking unhuman.

The scourging. Here's what he actually went through. It's not pretty.

http://www.apologeticspress.org/rr/rr2002/r&r0201a.htm

Primal 09-04-2004 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
People have a dificult time watching this movie because deep down in their souls they know it should have been THEM on that cross. He died for THEM.
I think thats not a right way of thinking but every one has the right to think the way they want, so comments on this.

Lets face something here.
The movie, the bible, what ever ppl say we ALL are assuming its true, but we dont know.

No one knows.
But assuming that this story is for real, and that He did went through all that for us, thats some memorable thing to think man.

But this also raizes a thought in my mind.
We as human beings are not that diferent from back then <- I think this is the way to say it :)

boobmaster 09-04-2004 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by Primal
I think thats not a right way of thinking but every one has the right to think the way they want, so comments on this.

Lets face something here.
The movie, the bible, what ever ppl say we ALL are assuming its true, but we dont know.

No one knows.
But assuming that this story is for real, and that He did went through all thatus, thats some memorable thing to think man.

But this also raizes a thought in my mind.
We as human beings are not that diferent from back then <- I think this is the way to say it :)

There is plenty of non-biblical evidence for the existence and crucifixion of Christ. The issue is whether you believe he was a man of peace killed for being a pest to the Jews or the Son of God, come to save mankind from sin.

Primal 09-04-2004 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
There is plenty of non-biblical evidence for the existence and crucifixion of Christ. The issue is whether you believe he was a man of peace killed for being a pest to the Jews or the Son of God, come to save mankind from sin.
Yes if it is true that He existed, I do belive about the story.
What I wanted to know if that the story that Mel Gibson filmed was pretty closed to reality (bible, stories) or if it was an overreact like Holywood likes so much.
I ldid iked the movie, except the 15 minute turture, wich I think it was way to much.

Dead13 09-04-2004 07:19 PM

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Originally posted by Primal

But this also raizes a thought in my mind.
We as human beings are not that diferent from back then <- I think this is the way to say it :)

That is what I was thinking.

I do not believe in Christ and all that religious crap but I wanted to see the movie, basically just because I wanted to see it. So I got the DVD cause I didnt want to go see it in the theatre with a buch of religious nuts.

I have read and studied enough history to know, yes that was common tourcher back then, but to see it unleased was very powerful. But the point that grabbed me the most was when during the movie I turned to my wife and realize in over 2,000 years of evolution we have not changed one bit.

We need to.

boobmaster 09-04-2004 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by Primal
Yes if it is true that He existed, I do belive about the story.
What I wanted to know if that the story that Mel Gibson filmed was pretty closed to reality (bible, stories) or if it was an overreact like Holywood likes so much.
I ldid iked the movie, except the 15 minute turture, wich I think it was way to much.

Gibson consulted the best bible scholars and classical historians for this project. This is the most accurate dipiction of the crucifixion ever made.

They couldn't show this back in the 50s and 60s when all the Jesus movies were being made because it would have been censored. Crucifixion is a slaughterfuck. You wouldn't want to experience it, believe me.

boobmaster 09-04-2004 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by Dead13
in over 2,000 years of evolution we have not changed one bit.
That's a contradiction in terms.

Primal 09-04-2004 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by Dead13
I turned to my wife and realize in over 2,000 years of evolution we have not changed one bit.

We need to.

Exactly what I said to my friends.

Word on that man.

Primal 09-04-2004 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
Gibson consulted the best bible scholars and classical historians for this project. This is the most accurate dipiction of the crucifixion ever made.

They couldn't show this back in the 50s and 60s when all the Jesus movies were being made because it would have been censored. Crucifixion is a slaughterfuck. You wouldn't want to experience it, believe me.

Like I said before.

IF this story is true, then He really wouldnt be human.
No human couldnt got that beat the way He did.

I think if some one take flesh out of me like they did to Him near the ribs and the fron chest I pass out.

boobmaster 09-04-2004 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by Primal
Like I said before.

IF this story is true, then He really wouldnt be human.
No human couldnt got that beat the way He did.

I think if some one take flesh out of me like they did to Him near the ribs and the fron chest I pass out.

He was God in human form

tony286 09-04-2004 07:53 PM

If they beat him the way they did in the movie . He would of been dead three times before he got to the mountain. Who knows what happened the bible was written by man,politics and the church were the editors. Thats why there were like 20 something gospels but only 4 made it. If it was just the word of God , there wouldnt of been a need for a editor.

tony286 09-04-2004 07:57 PM

The gospel according to Thomas was probably the closest to the actual word of Christ but the church banned it because it said things like you dont need a church to worship and dont patition the lord with prayer.

sickkittens 09-04-2004 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by Funbrunette
I can't get myself to watch this movie because of it being so graphic. Don't get me wrong I love blood, gore, guts and more blood, but in movies....Not taken from perhaps actual events (I'm not catholic, but still refuse to watch this) :(
It's way more powerful in the theaters than in the DVD. :2 cents:

tony286 09-04-2004 08:00 PM

porn is wrong but roman soldiers beating the shit out of Jesus is fine to watch. To me thats true pornography. lol

boobmaster 09-04-2004 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
If they beat him the way they did in the movie . He would of been dead three times before he got to the mountain. Who knows what happened the bible was written by man,politics and the church were the editors. Thats why there were like 20 something gospels but only 4 made it. If it was just the word of God , there wouldnt of been a need for a editor.
.... keep comforting yourself to the grave.

Primal 09-04-2004 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by sickkittens
It's way more powerful in the theaters than in the DVD. :2 cents:
Im glad I didnt saw it in the theater.

block 09-04-2004 08:01 PM

The romans were pretty brutal at that time so they probably wanted to make an example out of him... :(

tony286 09-04-2004 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
.... keep comforting yourself to the grave.
I am confused lol

Donny 09-04-2004 08:03 PM

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Originally posted by Primal
Did they beat the shit out of Him like they showed on the movie?

I didnt readed the Bible or have the intention to, but is anyone here know the story that can anwser my question?

The movie focus alot on the punishement, like if it was really true, but since that Hollywood as the nasty habit on overreact to things, Im really curious about it.

Im not going to see it again I cant understand why 2.4MIll copies were sold on the first 24 hours, maybe cristins, but come on.....

15 minutes of Him taking that beat?

According to the Bible, he was beaten severely, just like the movie depicts.

Primal 09-04-2004 08:05 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
.... keep comforting yourself to the grave.
He has a point in there dude.

Just an exemple showe din the movie.
The jews (whatever is spelled) did what they wanted before the ppl and in the face of the governor.

Who grants you they didnt wrote the Bible the way they wanted, to make the future generations beliving what they wanted?

Im not making up this is is pretty clear on the movie.

tony286 09-04-2004 08:05 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
According to the Bible, he was beaten severely, just like the movie depicts.
Actually it talks very little about it , Mel Gibson based his movie on this book .
http://www.emmerich1.com/DOLOROUS_PA...SUS_CHRIST.htm

nofx 09-04-2004 08:06 PM

:1orglaugh at all of the catholic adult webmasters or any adult webmaster who saw this movie.

Rob 09-04-2004 08:06 PM

I missed it. What happened at the end? Did he manage to escape? :glugglug

Primal 09-04-2004 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by block
The romans were pretty brutal at that time so they probably wanted to make an example out of him... :(
What exemple?
that was a punish to prevent of Him of geting cruxified (whever is spelled).
Even with the statment of the governor saying "punish Him, but dont kill him" and what the fucking guards tried was exactly that. KILL HIM.
Not for an exemple but for fucking pleasure.

boobmaster 09-04-2004 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
The gospel according to Thomas was probably the closest to the actual word of Christ but the church banned it because it said things like you dont need a church to worship and dont patition the lord with prayer.
Gnosticism = heresy

tony286 09-04-2004 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
Gnosticism = heresy
Truth=heresy lol


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