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Global Dialers 06-23-2004 02:19 AM

when was the last manned moon landing
 
anyone know

MrJackMeHoff 06-23-2004 02:19 AM

1972

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Global Dialers 06-23-2004 02:21 AM

so why hasnt there been another one in the last 32 years

conspiracy theorists may now start replying to this thread :Graucho

nofx 06-23-2004 02:22 AM

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Originally posted by Global Dialers
so why hasnt there been another one in the last 35 years

conspiracy theorists may now start replying to this thread :Graucho

the moon doesnt exist..

Fabuleux 06-23-2004 02:25 AM

There will happen a lot in the next 10 years. Japan, India, Russia and Europe are preparing to go to the moon. Japan has planned test flight for august this year. They want to grab some Helium-3 for kern fusion reactors.

the Shemp 06-23-2004 02:26 AM

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Originally posted by Global Dialers
so why hasnt there been another one in the last 32 years

conspiracy theorists may now start replying to this thread :Graucho

the studio burned down?

MrJackMeHoff 06-23-2004 02:26 AM

Why is ones shadow almost twice the length as the other!? Conspiracy!?

http://batesmotel.8m.com/nasa2.gif

Fabuleux 06-23-2004 02:31 AM

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Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
Why is ones shadow almost twice the length as the other!? Conspiracy!?

http://batesmotel.8m.com/nasa2.gif

There's a little hill behind the left guy.

MrJackMeHoff 06-23-2004 02:34 AM

In the spot where R is marked why is the marked with the letter C? And how does bone dry lunar dust allow perfect tire/foot prints!?


http://batesmotel.8m.com/nasa9.gif

MrJackMeHoff 06-23-2004 02:35 AM

Why is the cross hair on the left behind the pic its taking!?

http://batesmotel.8m.com/nasa10.gif

MrJackMeHoff 06-23-2004 02:37 AM

Where the fuck are the stars!?

http://batesmotel.8m.com/nasa7.gif

TheMob 06-23-2004 02:38 AM

http://pirlwww.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/NOT_faked/

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If you look at the rock labeled R you will notice a the letter C carved in the rock. Perhaps a gag left by the props department?

This is an artifact of the particular scan of this print. It does not appear in the original image. The following close-up (not color corrected) of a print of the same image from our collection at the Lunar and Planetary Laboratory shows no such feature:

Fabuleux 06-23-2004 02:45 AM

What are you trying to prove MrJackMeHoff? Deny ignorance. For every thing you see in that pictures is a logical emplanation. For example stars are so small they are very hard to catch on a photograph. What are you going to tell us next? Airplanes doesn't exist?

MrJackMeHoff 06-23-2004 02:54 AM

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Originally posted by Fabuleux
There's a little hill behind the left guy.
Ok brainiac explain this angle of the same pic:

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/Shadows.gif

Fabuleux 06-23-2004 02:59 AM

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Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
Ok brainiac explain this angle of the same pic:

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/Shadows.gif

Make it a litte harder will ya. It's the shadow of the flag.

MrJackMeHoff 06-23-2004 03:02 AM

Why are there 3 different directions to the shadows in this pic? And where are the stars. You cant expect me to believe without an atmosphere bright dots wouldn't appear?

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/goodphoto.gif

MrJackMeHoff 06-23-2004 03:03 AM

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Originally posted by Fabuleux
Make it a litte harder will ya. It's the shadow of the flag.
Even without the flag his shadow is still way taller.

Peacemaker 06-23-2004 03:04 AM

*lol*..

why was the flag waving? there is no air neither a athmosphere., it cant wave

it was all fake

Fabuleux 06-23-2004 03:11 AM

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Originally posted by Peacemaker
*lol*..

why was the flag waving? there is no air neither a athmosphere., it cant wave

it was all fake

The flag isn't waving, it's crumpled because of the way it was carried in the spacecraft. A piece of metal-wire holds the flag up.

Peacemaker 06-23-2004 03:15 AM

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Originally posted by Fabuleux
The flag isn't waving, it's crumpled because of the way it was carried in the spacecraft. A piece of metal-wire holds the flag up.
nope.. in the movies you see the flag waving.. just like wind does.

Fabuleux 06-23-2004 03:15 AM

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Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
Why are there 3 different directions to the shadows in this pic? And where are the stars. You cant expect me to believe without an atmosphere bright dots wouldn't appear?

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/goodphoto.gif

This is a panorama picture created by stitching 3 photo's together. You can see the color diffrence in the middle pic. When the three pictures are taken from the same spot, you have to "bend" the pictures to make them fit.

Fabuleux 06-23-2004 03:16 AM

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Originally posted by Peacemaker
nope.. in the movies you see the flag waving.. just like wind does.
Got link?

Peacemaker 06-23-2004 03:19 AM

oehm.. let me search.. had it on my hd a while back..

MrJackMeHoff 06-23-2004 03:21 AM

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Originally posted by Fabuleux
This is a panorama picture created by stitching 3 photo's together. You can see the color diffrence in the middle pic. When the three pictures are taken from the same spot, you have to "bend" the pictures to make them fit.
The shadow area is with a few feet of each other why would you stich such small sections that makes no sense. And if thats the case why is there only one shadow of the pic taker!?

Fabuleux 06-23-2004 03:22 AM

And about the stars, I was in the middle of the desert of Egypt a few years back and in the middle of the night, it's so dark (because there is no "light pollution" from street lights and cities) that you could even see the Milky Way. You see a gazillion stars with a blue glow around it. I've taken 30 sec. exposure shots without good results. Catching stars on can isn't easy.

MrJackMeHoff 06-23-2004 03:26 AM

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Originally posted by Fabuleux
And about the stars, I was in the middle of the desert of Egypt a few years back and in the middle of the night, it's so dark (because there is no "light pollution" from street lights and cities) that you could even see the Milky Way. You see a gazillion stars with a blue glow around it. I've taken 30 sec. exposure shots without good results. Catching stars on can isn't easy.
YOu keep skipping the good questions and answering the ones that dont matter much. 'Sides egypt still has an atmosphere!

Here is the wind blowing flag:

http://www.ufos-aliens.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Apollo1.rm

Fabuleux 06-23-2004 03:31 AM

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Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
The shadow area is with a few feet of each other why would you stich such small sections that makes no sense. And if thats the case why is there only one shadow of the pic taker!?
No small area's are stitched, it are three pictures of equal size. There is only one shadow in the picture because you siply only can see it in the right picture. It's hard to explain what I mean by bending and stiching, but the bending is needed because the photographer turned around one single position.

MrJackMeHoff 06-23-2004 03:34 AM

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Originally posted by Fabuleux
No small area's are stitched, it are three pictures of equal size. There is only one shadow in the picture because you siply only can see it in the right picture. It's hard to explain what I mean by bending and stiching, but the bending is needed because the photographer turned around one single position.

Whatever your in fantasy land you really think we landed on the moon in 1969 thats a laugh.

Taking pics at different angles doesnt change where the shadows fall anyway. If they were that far off I think the objects in the pic would be distorted as well.

All the shadows are right next to each other! Its caused by using flood lights in a studio. C'mon get a clue.

Fabuleux 06-23-2004 03:42 AM

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Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
Whatever your in fantasy land you really think we landed on the moon in 1969 thats a laugh.

All the shadows are right next to each other! Its caused by using flood lights in a studio. C'mon get a clue.

The fastest airplaine ever build is the Lockheed Martin SR-71A Blackbird and it's first flight was in 1965. Don't think we didn't have the knowlegde back then.

By the way, I study Flight and airospace technology :Graucho

MrJackMeHoff 06-23-2004 03:44 AM

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Originally posted by Fabuleux
The fastest airplaine ever build is the Lockheed Martin SR-71A Blackbird and it's first flight was in 1965. Don't think we didn't have the knowlegde back then.

By the way, I study Flight and airospace technology :Graucho


Huge difference between fast flight and landing on the moon there.

ADL Colin 06-23-2004 03:52 AM

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Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
And where are the stars. You cant expect me to believe without an atmosphere bright dots wouldn't appear?

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/goodphoto.gif

The Sun was too bright.

ADL Colin 06-23-2004 03:53 AM

Haven't you seen the clips where the guys are bouncing around in obvious low gravity?

Fabuleux 06-23-2004 03:57 AM

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Originally posted by Colin
The Sun was too bright.
He used his flashlight in the right picture.

MrJackMeHoff 06-23-2004 03:59 AM

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Originally posted by Colin
Haven't you seen the clips where the guys are bouncing around in obvious low gravity?
They just slow down the frame rate for that.

Fabuleux 06-23-2004 03:59 AM

And about the flag: Neil is turning the flagpole to "drill" it in the moon surface. The flag acts strange because there is no air resistance. Try it for yourself. Take a stick and mount a paper on top of it with tape so it looks like a flag. Then strengthen the top of the paper with iron-wire and fold it a few times around the stick. If you turn the stick the paper will act very similar as what you see on the video.

The technology we as civillians see today is not the technology our governments have. The Joint Strike Fighter for example is equipped with a 100kW laser capable of shooting rockets out of the sky. Sounds Star Wars, but it's today's reality.

MrJackMeHoff 06-23-2004 04:00 AM

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Originally posted by Fabuleux
He used his flashlight in the right picture.
They didnt have flashlights on the moon. As a matter of fact they didnt have any lights at all. They couldn't even have had cameras because the film would have melted its over 200 degrees on the moon!

jade_dragon 06-23-2004 04:01 AM

I challange anyone to produce the mathematical equation to show the trajectory needed to push a mass through our atmosphere, through space, get it close enough to the moon to launch a lander, have that lander land, then take off again, hook back up with the shuttle and then rocket back to earth TODAY in 2004 LET ALONE back when the original "happened".

Our own president even said that he will try to land on the moon next year. TRY? why do you have to try, if you did it back then and there have been so many advances why can't it be done now?

To add insult to injury a privately owned craft just flew into space for pennies on the dollar of NASA budget, who as we are told is mostly privately funded now! HAHA come on people!

the earth revolves and rotates, as does the moon, not on an eliptical course. when the rockets boost there is not a hell of a lot of correction being done, not when you look at it as a ratio. Gravity is going to fight the ship and pull on it till the force of the upward movement brings it out of the range of earth's gravitational pull. IE IT IS NOT GOING STRAIGHT UP, IT IS REVOLVING AND ROTATING AS IT DOES UP. At the same time you have a dot out in space that is moving around it in the same weeble wobble type motion. You have a window from which to launch from houston or florida to get everything to link up. Ask anyone on the salt flats of bonnaville how far off from the proposed end point you will get if you turn the wheel of your car even 1* at 150mph and if you need a second opinion ask the guy who just got back from space what happened when their guidance apparatus messed up, I believe he said 20 miles off course.

My point is the ship is massive and it is going fast, the mathematics to figure out how to get the shit i said in the beginning to happen is PAST rocket science, it was science fantasy plain and simple. Even today the math involved in getting a massive space craft being thrusted that fast to correct itself due to wind shifts and gravitational divergence is still the same. As long as you are using solid or liguid fuel with limited thrusting capablities, on a ship that is not highly manuverable with a human pilot who needs air and has limited ability to stay in space IT JUST DON'T ADD UP. You are talking about math that needs to be percise down to the .0000001 the world is full of things that would cause a differance that small.

But go ahead prove me wrong, show us the math.

MrJackMeHoff 06-23-2004 04:03 AM

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Originally posted by Fabuleux
And about the flag: Neil is turning the flagpole to "drill" it in the moon surface. The flag acts strange because there is no air resistance. Try it for yourself. Take a stick and mount a paper on top of it with tape so it looks like a flag. Then strengthen the top of the paper with iron-wire and fold it a few times around the stick. If you turn the stick the paper will act very similar as what you see on the video.

The technology we as civillians see today is not the technology our governments have. The Joint Strike Fighter for example is equipped with a 100kW laser capable of shooting rockets out of the sky. Sounds Star Wars, but it's today's reality.

What the fuck are you talking about, you smokin some crack now. 'Sides this wasnt my argument I just showed you what you ask for from the other guy. I personaly think they would have staged this indoors so the wind theory wasn't mine.

MrJackMeHoff 06-23-2004 04:06 AM

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Originally posted by jade_dragon
I challange anyone to produce the mathematical equation to show the trajectory needed to push a mass through our atmosphere, through

But go ahead prove me wrong, show us the math.


Yeah and they saying they dont know how to send people to the moon today because of the radiation belts. How did they do it 32 years ago!?

MrJackMeHoff 06-23-2004 04:08 AM

Notice the "posed" tire tracks!? Like the lunar lander can turn like that eh?


http://batesmotel.8m.com/nasa9.gif


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