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Mutt 10-24-2003 12:40 PM

Who's turning over webmaster info to Acacia
 
Post deleted on request.

My reason is here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/newrep...postid=2589464

BRISK 10-24-2003 12:42 PM

uh oh

Fletch XXX 10-24-2003 12:44 PM

this is getting big.

BVF 10-24-2003 12:45 PM

I was always nervous providing all of that information and all of the badge scanning and shit...

Dawgy 10-24-2003 12:45 PM

wow, does this mean i dont have to go to vegas in january?

there is no way in FUCK i am support any organization that sells me out

ControlThy 10-24-2003 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
this is getting big.

I love it.

btw: do you design paysites?

Bladewire 10-24-2003 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
two people I know received their first packets from Acacia in the last couple of days addressed to entities/domains that can only be traced to one source - registration to AVN's Internext.

Think AVN the august bible of the industry will do an investigative piece on how their list of webmasters got into the hands of Acacia? AVN either sold it to them or somebody who bought AVN's list resold it to Acacia.

Are you absolutely sure? Can these two people come forward in this post and attest to that?

Bladewire 10-24-2003 12:47 PM

Interesting article on AVN BTW http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...ntent_ID=43497

GFED 10-24-2003 12:47 PM

dum dee dum dummm...

hmmm...

:BangBang: ACACA

magicmike 10-24-2003 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
two people I know received their first packets from Acacia in the last couple of days addressed to entities/domains that can only be traced to one source - registration to AVN's Internext.


I know when I was at the last internext I didn't give them my correct info.

Too much talk of Acacia having a booth before the last show.

I figured they'd end up with the list.

Fletch XXX 10-24-2003 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ControlThy



I love it.

btw: do you design paysites?

I do. And have.

Depending on what you need, hit me up. ;)

:winkwink:

Mutt 10-24-2003 12:50 PM

this is definite because the guy told me when he registered for Internext I guess there was a place on the form where they want you to describe/name your company position and he made up some bogus title like head fluffer or some shit, remembers it distinctly, and sure enough whatever the bogus title he made up was, it's on the Acacia mailing he received.

Bladewire 10-24-2003 12:56 PM

Is a perk of Internext that anyone with a booth gets a copy of the sign ins?

Has anyone asked AVN about this?

I'm almost in denial. I hate to think that AVN 1) sells it's list to anyone 2) could let Acacia get a hold of our information

These guys have got to post on here and speak for themselves.

Adultlegal 10-24-2003 01:09 PM

nope

but just hire a hot chick to run around with a badge scanner and scan as many as possible

Furious_Male 10-24-2003 01:23 PM

I have a feeling they are using more then one source to blanket mail all these webmasters. Disturbing to say the least.

JSA Matt 10-24-2003 01:24 PM

I've never signed up for Internext :mad:

TheLegacy 10-24-2003 01:31 PM

Before I go ape shit on AVN - like to see some proof - or at least have AVN look into it.

I would hate to see it as one of our own selling out - something about pieces of silver ... Judas??

WiredGuy 10-24-2003 01:32 PM

Good thing I never used my contact info when attending Internext...

WG

Suckitbitch 10-24-2003 01:34 PM

http://www.itc.virginia.edu/virginia...s/titleart.gif

Sharpie 10-24-2003 01:48 PM

I don't think that Internext would give their list to Acacia. It is the most important asset they have as a TradeShow Company. More likely the list came from someone else, who may have purchased or made a deal for their list at some time in the past.

BTW - our Cybernet list is NOT for sale...... or trade, or anything else!

The Truth Hurts 10-24-2003 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JSA Matt
I've never signed up for Internext :mad:
Me neither, never even been to a show, but I have signed up to recieve their magazine several times and eventually got one issue.

Kilxxx was better anyway.

Stallion 10-24-2003 02:21 PM

just got my letter in the mail today. Funny thing is, I have never had any videos, streamed any videos, owned any paysites, etc. They are barking up the wrong tree on this end..

tucker 10-24-2003 02:23 PM

GET A LIFE...AVN HAS NO INCENTIVE TO SELL ANYTHING TO ANYONE. Their entire business is derived from our business, its advertising and events.

HOW DARE YOU ALL ACCUSE A COMPANY that has brought us together and keeps us informed.

GO
FUCK
YOURSELF

Mike AI 10-24-2003 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tucker
GET A LIFE...AVN HAS NO INCENTIVE TO SELL ANYTHING TO ANYONE. Their entire business is derived from our business, its advertising and events.

HOW DARE YOU ALL ACCUSE A COMPANY that has brought us together and keeps us informed.

GO
FUCK
YOURSELF

BULLSHIT!!!

AVN cares more about there REAL customers, the only school porn Giants.... the video and magazine people. The Vivids, the Hustlers, etc.

These are the people who want to run all the Internet Turks out of business.... and AVN is helping!!! They want to see the internet cotnroled by the same few Giants who control the video/magazine traditional porn world!!

All of you small guys with free sites, TGPs, people with small pay sites are all taking money from these guys pockets!!

GFED 10-24-2003 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI


BULLSHIT!!!

AVN cares more about there REAL customers, the only school porn Giants.... the video and magazine people. The Vivids, the Hustlers, etc.

These are the people who want to run all the Internet Turks out of business.... and AVN is helping!!! They want to see the internet cotnroled by the same few Giants who control the video/magazine traditional porn world!!

All of you small guys with free sites, TGPs, people with small pay sites are all taking money from these guys pockets!!


Mutt 10-24-2003 02:40 PM

get your tongue out of AVN's ass. It's possible AVN was duped into selling a list, not like Acacia would go 'Hey we're Acacia, we're out to rape the porn industry, how much for a list of the names and addresses of our next victims?'.

There is NO doubt where Acacia got my friend's info from, NONE, ZERO, NADA, ZILCH - unknowingly by making up a phoney title for himself my friend seeded that mailing list. How Acacia got the list - ask AVN who they've sold their list to or if somebody could have gotten their list through other means.

crockett 10-24-2003 02:46 PM

well I just got mine and I didn't go to internext.. I can't say for sure that I didn't fill out any forms on their page.. I can't remember did you have to sgin up to anything to view info about internext?

I kinda figure they got my info from the forums, however my sites are not listed on the letter... just my name.

TondaB 10-24-2003 02:54 PM

This was briefly mentioned already but they could have got the information from scanning badges and/or buying a list from someone who was scanning badges.

When you fill out the form to get a badge all information that you give up is given to anyone that leases a badge scanner and pays for the information.

That would be why I have never put any information other than an email addy on there:)

JDog 10-24-2003 02:59 PM

This is getting way outta control! I need some real proof that AVN did that! Have your friends come forward and confirm what you said!

jDoG

Jason 10-24-2003 03:05 PM

There's a pain you're receding

A distance ship, smoke on the horizon

You are only coming thru in waves

Youre lips move but i can't hear what you're saying

When i was a child i had a ferver

My hands felt just like two balloons

No i've got that feeling once again

I can't explain, you would not understand

This is not how i'm

I have become comfotably numb

Tipsy 10-24-2003 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PornDollar
There's a pain you're receding

A distance ship, smoke on the horizon

You are only coming thru in waves

Youre lips move but i can't hear what you're saying

When i was a child i had a ferver

My hands felt just like two balloons

No i've got that feeling once again

I can't explain, you would not understand

This is not how i'm

I have become comfotably numb

Shutup and finish eating your meat you bastard. No pudding for you until you eat it all!

tony286 10-24-2003 04:03 PM

I worked for a computer parts wholesaler and when I just started, they had just comeback from comdex where they had a booth. I was given a print out of basically ever person that was at the show. I cold called on that list for a couple months, made some good $$ too . I think it was given to them for having a booth , internext maybe the same way or if it is a avn list maybe they sold it. They are a company here to make money, I spoke about this yesterday these adult newstype companies arent news sources they are marketing engines. Its business not personal.

JFPdude 10-24-2003 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
I worked for a computer parts wholesaler and when I just started, they had just comeback from comdex where they had a booth. I was given a print out of basically ever person that was at the show. I cold called on that list for a couple months, made some good $$ too . I think it was given to them for having a booth , internext maybe the same way or if it is a avn list maybe they sold it. They are a company here to make money, I spoke about this yesterday these adult newstype companies arent news sources they are marketing engines. Its business not personal.
Finally someone who is thinking on his feet. AVN offered scanners to the company I went to internext with last year. All the ID's had a bar code on it and if you wanted to rent the bar code scanner you could get a list of everyone that visited your booth.

Check your ID Badges for internext the bar code is there.

Not saying this is what happened but definetly a good lead on what could have happened.

Problem would be at this point it could have been any vendor there. :mad:

Jason 10-24-2003 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy


Shutup and finish eating your meat you bastard. No pudding for you until you eat it all!

We dont need your mind control

HEY TIPSY.. Leave them kids alone..

:1orglaugh

sweetcuties 10-24-2003 04:16 PM

bump

XxXotic 10-24-2003 04:20 PM

that doesnt really explain anything, i got a packet today and i didn't register with AVN for any shows

triumph 10-24-2003 04:23 PM

this is getting real interesting, the shit is going to hit the fan soon, and many sponsors are guilty of it!
:321GFY

Tipsy 10-24-2003 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PornDollar


We dont need your mind control

HEY TIPSY.. Leave them kids alone..

:1orglaugh

You're getting cofused with me and the guy who thinks that we DO need some education :)

TheFLY 10-24-2003 04:25 PM

Shit, I let one bastard scan my badge... I don't think I used my real address though :1orglaugh

Lensman 10-24-2003 04:39 PM

In fairness to AVN, I am editing this thread. AVN didn't hand over any lists, it could have been an exhibitor who was scanning badges. And I can guess who that would have been!


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