I have a few guesses of my own, last thing we need at a time like this is everyone to turn on each other with accusations.

WG

Maybe WiredGuy is right.

How about joining hands for a few renditions of Kumbaya?

Lensman is absolutely correct, there is no way to know how information got from point A to point B - there are many possibilities. Same goes for the other companies being accused of
handing over lists, nobody thus far knows how Acacia obtained their information. But we can speculate and share opinions between each other.

As I said in earlier posts, my friend only told he where he believed his information came from. Neither he nor I know or have any information how that information then came into Acacia's hands. I questioned him, cross examined him if u will, as to why he was so sure he knew where Acacia's information for him came from. He suggested I tell his story on GFY so other webmasters would know and others might share their information. He is NOT a webmaster, he went to a show in another capacity. I would never say something is a FACT without knowing that fact to be 100% true. Which is why when my ICQ went off and people messaged me 'So you're saying *** gave up webmasters to Acacia, I told them 'No, that's not necessarly so, I didn't say that, there are a bunch of ways Acacia could have got the info.' I am a Supreme Court judge's son, and a brother to another Supreme Court judge, I know the law by osmosis.

This is a discussion board where relevant information to the Adult Internet community is discussed from time to time. I posted at the suggestion of my friend, his story, his opinion where Acacia got the information to contact him, he is a honest as they come, has no grudges to bear against anybody in this industry, but knowing how important this issue is to so many people suggested I share his story by posting it on GFY.

I think it is still to early to keep pointing fingers. First off, this is lible - if these companies and sponsers didn't give this information out - the aucusor is fucked. Because he majorly slandered the company (in a written form), which is lible. That is wreaking their rep!

I want some hardcore evidience!

jDoG

I've never been to Internext and I still have a letter for Acacia

lol ...
"evidence for accusations" on GFY?
roflmoa ..
since when?

My question is - are these companies giving Acacia the information in their "sales reports" and now claiming ignorance that Acacia had no right to use it?

like hello???
What planet are all you masters of the universe on?

I have a idea that the reason, some companies sign.

I thing Acacia told them that they should not pay anything, if they sign and gave the database info for acacia.
I realy would like the signing companies to scan there signed deals, so we all can read, what deals they have.

Just my :2 cents:

Me too ...
PUBLISH THE CONTRACTS ...

I tell you now I will be ...
when I go to negotiate my "contract" with Acacia it will be all homepage news ...
every word ...
every letter scanned ...
all divulged for all to see ..

I am contemplating my questions I will be asking in my initial contact to secure a contract for future live video streaming and playback ...

:)

:ak47:

50 :ak47:

How easy would it be to start a site where affiliates, who have recieved the package at an address only known to sponsors, could list their sponsors. Would very quickly show who is the rat.

When Acacia are beaten some companies arew going to be out of business because they signed up to Acacia.

I don't get why you think it is "a rat" ... it is "several rats" ...
Have you filled out your monthly sales report to Acacia yet?
Think about that ...

I got a letter.

my only contact with the adult industry is this board.

you figure it out.

:ak47:

yesterday it became pretty clear where most of theinformation came from for this large mailing Acacia sent out last week. what isn't clear is how Acacia obtained the information and from whom.

Far-L in another thread suggests others had access to the Matrix Content customer database - that means Matrix knows where to look for the culprit if it is not them which they vehemently deny. So in the coming weeks we should hear from Matrix whom they believe used their db for nefarious means. I trust Far-L, if he says Matrix was just a patsy I would believe it. But I also believe Matrix now or soon will know who is responsible for framing them.

I got the letter too and I am not pointing fingers yet as I'm researching ALL sponsors, etc to make sure I never used "thefreakybeaver" as a username elsewhere. I do not believe I did as most sponsors only allow a certain amount of characters and I use "freakybeaver" and other names.

The only place I can be sure I have used THEfreakybeaver (the name which they addressed my letter to is here on GFY!

Has Lensman publically stated he hasn't supplied any info to Acacia yet? If so is it possible an ex employee or someone got info from GFY and supplied it to Acacia?

I have a different username altogether at Matrix and I've never registered through AVN.

Again not pointing fingers, just stating another possibility and wondering if anyone else has gotten a letter to a "name" they think they only used on GFY.

Would love to see my mail lady's face when she read whom the letter was addressed to!! I feel bad for anyone who has a really hardcore username like Cum On My Face, Fuck My Ass etc

i wasn't aware of this scanning badges stuff so I called my friend this morning and asked him about it - yes he remembers having his tag scanned - he can't remember who of course being drunk at the time and with so many exhibitors and people pretty much a blur but he does remember the scanning.

who was scanning badges at Internext?

huh? when u register for GFY you aren't required to give a mailing address.

Well for me I never go to conventions so AVN didn't do shit to me. I am too paranoid and don't give out real information unless I feel I have to. So only time I felt I had to was when I was getting CD content from a content provider.

There is no way that AVN sold their list to Acacia.

I am confident the source for Acacia's information will soon be revealed.

its somebody here going through the user posts and looking for whois info.

I am new to this board but I have been lurking for a while. I got the letter this week and could not figure how they sent to my P.O. Box. and made up company name. I have never gone to any of the shows. Today AVN Online Mag. came it uses the same fake company name and address info.

If you hold the envelope address label next to the AVN label they are twins.

Surferman

The label on my AVN Online TO: address is not the same as the one from Acacia... And it did not come with the same address/company that I used for Internext... Go figure.. Only place it really seems to be for me is Matrix.. I would investigate former employees who have access to the database, or disgruntel employees who might be looking for that missed christmas bonus... This is so rediculous becasue I am a designer.. haha

Just my 2 cents..

Media

For me the Matrix Content idea makes since, Acacia used the company name I used to sign up with Matrix. Which also sucks because I never even bought anything.

As said before though, I think there are multiple sources that may have leaked.

Well for me my letter went to my HOME address.

and just so happens that my business name was worded wrong.. just like it is with another item i get in the mail that only goes to my home

i have an LLC at the end of my business name
this letter just so happens to have Llc

i incorporated at the beginning of the year and all my whois info has the incorporation name.. so its definately not coming from whois.

The real kicker will be the person getting a letter that hasn't been doing porn since last year