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Minte · 01-14-2003, 05:17 PM

I have to get a new SUV this week..i've narrowed it down
to either the ML350 or the X5 3.0

Anyone have any good things or bad things to say about either of them?

stanton · 01-14-2003, 05:17 PM

X5 Is the best!

best perfomance, safety , and looks much slicker!

Amputate Your Head · 01-14-2003, 05:18 PM

i like the Lexus....

Trafficbrokercom · 01-14-2003, 05:19 PM

Get the Porsche Cayenne S.

I don't know if it's already available in the states.

Fucking nice car. By far the best SUV out there.

I drove it a couple of times until I flew to the States for the expo.

If you have to choose between the X5 and the ML get the X5. Though I am driving a Mercedes AMG E55 myself I would prefer the BMW for the SUV.

Greetings

Mike

necoeds · 01-14-2003, 05:24 PM

I drive in a ML350..... I love it, very reliable.... just kinda expensive to get work done to it.... (only problem so far is that my air manifold gasket had a leak..... no biggie)

drops · 01-14-2003, 05:28 PM

ML 350? you mean ML 320...

I have it. I like it..

Interlude · 01-14-2003, 05:33 PM

X5 has beaten out the ML in virtually every head-to-head review I"ve read. In general, Mercedes is a bit more luxurious but less of a "driver's car" than BMW. I drove several models of both brands before choosing a BMW, and haven't looked back.

deniska · 01-14-2003, 06:15 PM

IF you are in a market for an suv please pick one from the list below. Everything else is crap...

ML55 AMG

G55 AMG

X5 4.6

Range Rover

Lexus GX470

stanton · 01-14-2003, 06:17 PM

all looks like garbage except

Cyber3 · 01-14-2003, 06:30 PM

All of them are ugly, nothing but a bunch of station wagons with a lift kit

PostWhore · 01-14-2003, 06:40 PM

ML350 repleaced ML320

get X5 4.4i atleast, do not get 3.0, no enought power.

If you got more cash get 4.6is or Range Rover. (Range rover has engine from X5 4.4i)

PostWhore · 01-14-2003, 06:51 PM

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mrbling · 01-14-2003, 06:58 PM

a BMW or mercedes MINIVAN HAHAH just yells out "GAY" and "LOOK AT ME" all the way.

want a minivan?

get a mazada or a dodge.

Minte · 01-14-2003, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrbling
a BMW or mercedes MINIVAN HAHAH just yells out "GAY" and "LOOK AT ME" all the way.

want a minivan?

get a mazada or a dodge.

Of course there is a chance it might say,..i prefer german engineering,attention to detail in design,.safety,handling and resale.. If i want people to look at me..i''ll drive one of my 911's..probably the twin turbo..but..hey thanks for the advice..

drops · 01-14-2003, 07:19 PM

went to the LA auto show.. they now have 27 inch wheels.. on a Escalade

Triple 6 · 01-14-2003, 07:20 PM

get the X5, cuz the benz looks gay. It seems like its a confused minivan. Or a pregnant roller skate. Either way its boring, get an X5 or suffer regret later 'down the road',

PornBroker · 01-14-2003, 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by Trafficbrokercom
Get the Porsche Cayenne S.

*slightly* more expensive than the two he is looking at (at least it is here!)

ancher · 01-14-2003, 07:35 PM

If you thinking Mecedes, why not go all the way, and get one like mine....

xxxcam · 01-14-2003, 07:38 PM

X5 looks better in my opinion, mers ML looks weird...

PostWhore · 01-14-2003, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ancher
If you thinking Mecedes, why not go all the way, and get one like mine....

Yeah isn't it nice to own a concept car???

Why don't you get Cadillac 16
V16, 1000hp, 1000pounds of torque

http://cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/info...c16/index.html

Minte · 01-14-2003, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ancher
If you thinking Mecedes, why not go all the way, and get one like mine....

snappy machine..but i am looking for something to replace a mercury mountaineer..something that will do well in the snow.And something that will do a bit better than the 15mpg that the mountaineer does.The Cayenne is a decent SUV..but as a long time Porsche owner..i am not at all thrilled over the fact that Porsche is even in the SUV market.

PostWhore · 01-14-2003, 07:45 PM

Speaking of concept car, go for X5 Le Mans
700 bhp (514 kW) and has a torque of 720 Nm (531 lb-ft) at 5000 rpm, which accelerates from a stand-still to 100 km/h in 4.7 seconds. Top speed is 278 km/h (173 mph).

PostWhore · 01-14-2003, 07:49 PM

Video of BMW X5 Le Mans at Nurburgring
http://216.123.72.168/bmw_x5lemans.rm

Minte · 01-14-2003, 07:52 PM

That will get you to the movie club! never pay another late fee

T - Bone · 01-14-2003, 08:02 PM

Those new Cadillac 16's are off the hook crazy. I read a review on those guys and I think they might actually build this one.

V-16.... Crazyness

NBDesign · 01-14-2003, 09:58 PM

BMW is rated the safest on the market... at least they were a year or two ago. If that means anything. Might if you have kids.

Pornwolf · 01-14-2003, 10:06 PM

The Range Rover is the best out of that list but it's not worth the price. The Lexus is a nice one but it's not worth it either. If you are replacing a Mounteneer you are better off buying an ML 430 with about 27,000 miles on it. Most benzes don't really 'break in' for about 30,000 miles and the dealer pre-authorized reseller has a high standard for used Benzes so you don't have to worry about much. The best part is it's probably 10 to $15,000 less than a new one. The style isn't changing so no one will know the difference.

The X5 has a terrible repair history. Skip it.

But... if you are just plain trying to be a big baller, get the range.

mrbling · 01-14-2003, 10:07 PM

"Top speed is 278 km/h (173 mph). "

HAHAHAH A Minivan that can go up to 173 mph

next thing you know you'll be lowering the car and putting up wings!

who's up for family street racing!!

NBDesign · 01-14-2003, 10:07 PM

Buy a Jeep!

greedinc · 01-14-2003, 10:08 PM

go with the x5 man, definetely, awesome car... range rovers are really great too.

night,
C.

Rich · 01-14-2003, 10:13 PM

In that price range go with the Range Rover man. At least test drive one before you make up your mind.

PostWhore · 01-14-2003, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
The Range Rover is the best out of that list but it's not worth the price. The Lexus is a nice one but it's not worth it either. If you are replacing a Mounteneer you are better off buying an ML 430 with about 27,000 miles on it. Most benzes don't really 'break in' for about 30,000 miles and the dealer pre-authorized reseller has a high standard for used Benzes so you don't have to worry about much. The best part is it's probably 10 to $15,000 less than a new one. The style isn't changing so no one will know the difference.

The X5 has a terrible repair history. Skip it.

But... if you are just plain trying to be a big baller, get the range.

hmm you are suggesting Range Rover, but saying that X5 has terrible repair history??
What kind of drugs are you taking??
Range Rover uses BMW engine. X5 uses Range Rover chassis.
If we are talking about reability, you better check that. Mercedes' reability/qiuality went down really badly

iroc409 · 01-14-2003, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PostWhore

can we lower our vehicles properly, please?? fuck. get an alignment, hoser

i don't think the cayenne is available in the us yet, but i could be wrong. if you're going to get an suv like that, get the G series mercedes. kinda like a hummer, and the way an suv should be: tough & off-road capable. if you try hard enough, you can get an armored version

Mr Pheer · 01-14-2003, 10:56 PM

Why not get an H2 with the luxury package. its in pretty much the same price range and has a very nice ride. And if you need to go offroad, it wont have any problems whatsoever.

candyflip · 01-14-2003, 11:13 PM

For some strange reason, I'm digging the Volvo. Motor Trend did too...it's the Sport Utility of the Year.

http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/suv/112_0212_volvo/

supportex · 01-15-2003, 02:14 AM

if you enjoy driving, get BMW
my 2 cents

gothweb · 01-15-2003, 02:36 AM

During my return home to the US for the holiday season this year, more than anything else I was struck with one important fact about America: People are Stupid.

There is no more ridiculous trend than that towards SUVs. Maybe 1% of the people who drive these ridiculous monstrosities need them. The rest are wasteful, dangerous, and vain.

Some thoughts...

1. SUVs guzzle gas. Why pay a ton to fill the tank of a vehicle that is far larger and heavier than you need? In doing so, you fund all those nasty arab countries that the US hates so much, including money that will end up in the hands of actual enemies. Plus, if anyone still cares about that sort of thing, you screw the environment.

2. SUVs have increased the amount of road deaths. While an SUV is safe for its driver, it is far more likely to kill anyone in the cars it collides with. Nice.

3. SUVs are priced like luxury cars, but are only a bit more comfortable than their ancestors. I am talkin about vehicles like the GMC Jimmy or Chevy Suburban. Before this ridiculous fad, we realized the "Utility" part over the status symbol part. If you want a status symbol, either get a sports car with some power, or a luxury car with a cushy ride.

I drove from New Hampshire to Baltimore, recently. I went through New Jersey, etc. There were more SUVs and minivans on the road than all other vehicles... and the number went up as we got to more populated areas. The people who need a utility vehice, up in rural NH, don't bother with these materialistic fasion statements. If you buy an SUV, especially a "luxury" SUV, you're being had. Congratulations.

ControlThy · 01-15-2003, 03:02 AM

Mercedes ofcourse.

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Chris E · 01-15-2003, 03:15 AM

Merc.

volante · 01-15-2003, 03:41 AM

BMW for driving. Merc for luxury. Range Rover if you actually intend to go offroad. Porsche Cayenne if you've got too much money...

the indigo · 01-15-2003, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
During my return home to the US for the holiday season this year, more than anything else I was struck with one important fact about America: People are Stupid.

There is no more ridiculous trend than that towards SUVs. Maybe 1% of the people who drive these ridiculous monstrosities need them. The rest are wasteful, dangerous, and vain.

Some thoughts...

1. SUVs guzzle gas. Why pay a ton to fill the tank of a vehicle that is far larger and heavier than you need? In doing so, you fund all those nasty arab countries that the US hates so much, including money that will end up in the hands of actual enemies. Plus, if anyone still cares about that sort of thing, you screw the environment.

2. SUVs have increased the amount of road deaths. While an SUV is safe for its driver, it is far more likely to kill anyone in the cars it collides with. Nice.

3. SUVs are priced like luxury cars, but are only a bit more comfortable than their ancestors. I am talkin about vehicles like the GMC Jimmy or Chevy Suburban. Before this ridiculous fad, we realized the "Utility" part over the status symbol part. If you want a status symbol, either get a sports car with some power, or a luxury car with a cushy ride.

I drove from New Hampshire to Baltimore, recently. I went through New Jersey, etc. There were more SUVs and minivans on the road than all other vehicles... and the number went up as we got to more populated areas. The people who need a utility vehice, up in rural NH, don't bother with these materialistic fasion statements. If you buy an SUV, especially a "luxury" SUV, you're being had. Congratulations.

I totaly agree... I think most people riding them are 40's year old pussies who don't even need them. They need to feel bigger & powerful (or whatever it is) on the roads just to secure themselve and ruin our environment.

I never, ever saw a SUV with more than two people in it actually...

PornBroker · 01-15-2003, 04:11 AM

My business partner has a BMW X5 4.6is
He traded in his Range Rover, which is the model just prior to the current one.
He says there is absolutely *no comparison* between the two - the BMW SHITS on the RR.

Vivaldi · 01-15-2003, 04:31 AM

mercedes!

ml350 is nice.

may be this one?

"accelerates from a standstill to 300 km/h (186 mph) in under 14 seconds"

iroc409 · 01-15-2003, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
During my return home to the US for the holiday season this year, more than anything else I was struck with one important fact about America: People are Stupid.

i would tend to agree with you on most of those points. the whole deal behind the gas-guzzling nature and the sad fact that they never go off road has brought us the wonderous, absofuckinglutely useless suv's such as the honda cr-v and it's kin. there is no way in hell i can even bring myself to udnerstand those. if you're going to wuss out on the suv, get a minivan, lamer.

i also feel it is quite unfortunate that the majority of people don't use the suv's capabilities, most of them are for suburbanites on an ego trip. but they aren't a total waste, they do have their practical uses. take the excursion for example. that thing can pull a monstrous load, say a huge travel-trailer, and the people inside can ride quite luxuriously. and you might be surprised how well some of the newer ones ride, even off road.

although i'm proud to say that i've never owned an suv or 4wd truck that didn't get it's fair share of off-road rompage. my first suv, the first day i owned it i bashed the bumper apart off-roading (i used to live out in the country). hell, i even romped vehicles that weren't mine (lease returns and my dad's truck... he didn't appreciate that much).

in the end, i wouldn't judge every single person that owns an suv, they definitely have their place. i agree though, it is sad nobody uses them for their intended purpose. i would assume you don't get a lot of snow where you live, either for 4wd.

iroc409 · 01-15-2003, 04:51 AM

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Originally posted by Vivaldi

may be this one?

mmmm.... bugatti.... 4 turbos... w-16.... 1001 hp.....

mmmmmm.....

Theo · 01-15-2003, 04:53 AM

My uncle has a Rangerover,it's great car, a real beast, not a fake one. It's not overpriced if you compare it with the rest big SUV's. It worths the money and it will be a strong, reliable car even after 20 years. It has expensive service and a repair means serious cash each time, but hopefully you won't have to deal with these very often. I like the mercedes too, you don't see this car than often in the street.

gothweb · 01-15-2003, 05:48 AM

Note: I don't mean to say that everyone who has, or wants an SUV is an idiot. Just 99% of them... and the trend that represents. ;)

Minte · 01-15-2003, 06:47 AM

I have arranged test drives this morning of both selections..As to taking it off road,,it will probably never go off road..in 3 years the mountaineer never has..but for hauling a boat out of the lake..and for winter driving..we get snow in Wisconsin..I think the SUV is the perfect choice. The cayenne will be available on March 15th here..I'll certainly take a look at one..but seriously i wouldn't consider it.
Since i've had the mountaineer..it has less than 22,000 miles on it in 3 years..so this is clearly not a daily ride.My wife will drive it mostly.I have a decent stable of fun cars allready..and in less than 3 weeks i'll post some pics of my new M3..Its allready been shipped

01-14-2003, 05:17 PM	#1
Minte Babemeister Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Madison Posts: 7,081	BMW or Mercedes? I have to get a new SUV this week..i've narrowed it down to either the ML350 or the X5 3.0 Anyone have any good things or bad things to say about either of them? __________________ You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.

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01-14-2003, 05:24 PM	#5
necoeds Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,453	I drive in a ML350..... I love it, very reliable.... just kinda expensive to get work done to it.... (only problem so far is that my air manifold gasket had a leak..... no biggie) __________________ Message me to promote nebraskacoeds + network sites...

01-14-2003, 05:28 PM	#6
drops Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 1,116	ML 350? you mean ML 320... I have it. I like it.. __________________ <img src=http://porndollar.com/webmasters/banners/porndollar/120x60_25_pd.gif border=0><br>$84 Per Signup \| $25 Per Free Signup \| $20 Per Cross Sales \| Credits On Exits \| Paid Weekly <br>Contact Info. http://porndollar.com/support.html

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01-14-2003, 05:17 PM	#2
stanton So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,640	X5 Is the best! best perfomance, safety , and looks much slicker!

01-14-2003, 05:19 PM	#4
Trafficbrokercom Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 542	Get the Porsche Cayenne S. I don't know if it's already available in the states. Fucking nice car. By far the best SUV out there. I drove it a couple of times until I flew to the States for the expo. If you have to choose between the X5 and the ML get the X5. Though I am driving a Mercedes AMG E55 myself I would prefer the BMW for the SUV. Greetings Mike

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Interlude Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: State of Denial Posts: 1,147	X5 has beaten out the ML in virtually every head-to-head review I"ve read. In general, Mercedes is a bit more luxurious but less of a "driver's car" than BMW. I drove several models of both brands before choosing a BMW, and haven't looked back.

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deniska Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Miami Beach, FL Posts: 1,053	IF you are in a market for an suv please pick one from the list below. Everything else is crap... ML55 AMG G55 AMG X5 4.6 Range Rover Lexus GX470

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01-14-2003, 06:40 PM	#11
PostWhore Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,720	ML350 repleaced ML320 get X5 4.4i atleast, do not get 3.0, no enought power. If you got more cash get 4.6is or Range Rover. (Range rover has engine from X5 4.4i) __________________ Ask me how to monetize with adult traffic!

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mrbling Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 365	a BMW or mercedes MINIVAN HAHAH just yells out "GAY" and "LOOK AT ME" all the way. want a minivan? get a mazada or a dodge. __________________ millionare by 18 , beat that hOES

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xxxcam Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 401	X5 looks better in my opinion, mers ML looks weird...

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PostWhore Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,720	Speaking of concept car, go for X5 Le Mans 700 bhp (514 kW) and has a torque of 720 Nm (531 lb-ft) at 5000 rpm, which accelerates from a stand-still to 100 km/h in 4.7 seconds. Top speed is 278 km/h (173 mph). __________________ Ask me how to monetize with adult traffic!

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Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	The Range Rover is the best out of that list but it's not worth the price. The Lexus is a nice one but it's not worth it either. If you are replacing a Mounteneer you are better off buying an ML 430 with about 27,000 miles on it. Most benzes don't really 'break in' for about 30,000 miles and the dealer pre-authorized reseller has a high standard for used Benzes so you don't have to worry about much. The best part is it's probably 10 to $15,000 less than a new one. The style isn't changing so no one will know the difference. The X5 has a terrible repair history. Skip it. But... if you are just plain trying to be a big baller, get the range. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

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greedinc Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 245	go with the x5 man, definetely, awesome car... range rovers are really great too. night, C.

01-14-2003, 10:13 PM	#33
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	In that price range go with the Range Rover man. At least test drive one before you make up your mind.

01-14-2003, 10:56 PM	#36
Mr Pheer So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,083	Why not get an H2 with the luxury package. its in pretty much the same price range and has a very nice ride. And if you need to go offroad, it wont have any problems whatsoever.

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candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,069	For some strange reason, I'm digging the Volvo. Motor Trend did too...it's the Sport Utility of the Year. http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/suv/112_0212_volvo/

01-15-2003, 02:14 AM	#38
supportex Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 61	if you enjoy driving, get BMW my 2 cents

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gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	During my return home to the US for the holiday season this year, more than anything else I was struck with one important fact about America: People are Stupid. There is no more ridiculous trend than that towards SUVs. Maybe 1% of the people who drive these ridiculous monstrosities need them. The rest are wasteful, dangerous, and vain. Some thoughts... 1. SUVs guzzle gas. Why pay a ton to fill the tank of a vehicle that is far larger and heavier than you need? In doing so, you fund all those nasty arab countries that the US hates so much, including money that will end up in the hands of actual enemies. Plus, if anyone still cares about that sort of thing, you screw the environment. 2. SUVs have increased the amount of road deaths. While an SUV is safe for its driver, it is far more likely to kill anyone in the cars it collides with. Nice. 3. SUVs are priced like luxury cars, but are only a bit more comfortable than their ancestors. I am talkin about vehicles like the GMC Jimmy or Chevy Suburban. Before this ridiculous fad, we realized the "Utility" part over the status symbol part. If you want a status symbol, either get a sports car with some power, or a luxury car with a cushy ride. I drove from New Hampshire to Baltimore, recently. I went through New Jersey, etc. There were more SUVs and minivans on the road than all other vehicles... and the number went up as we got to more populated areas. The people who need a utility vehice, up in rural NH, don't bother with these materialistic fasion statements. If you buy an SUV, especially a "luxury" SUV, you're being had. Congratulations. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

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volante Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: LAX Immigration Posts: 2,940	BMW for driving. Merc for luxury. Range Rover if you actually intend to go offroad. Porsche Cayenne if you've got too much money...