WebsiteBilling tries to fuck with me! Anyone else made experiences with these thiefs? - GoFuckYourself.com

deleteduser · 01-14-2003, 11:11 AM

I am so fucking tired of websitebilling! First i had to wait weeks to get my cheque from november, i also emailed them but got no reply. now they try to fuck with me. my income in period 12/1/02 - 12/15/02 counts $529.20 and now i get a cheque of $206.70! thats $322.50 STOLEN! and i am also tired to emaily ou dumb guys again cause i didnt get an response last time! So send me my fucking money you thiefs!!

Here is the proof:
http://www.bulletproofgalleries.com/websitebilling.jpg

Va2k · 01-14-2003, 11:39 AM

man go with acpay they will even pay you via paypal
Email them or icq them tell them tom sent ya aka va2k who runs virginia amateurs they will do you right trust me.

TOM

deleteduser · 01-14-2003, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by va2k
man go with acpay they will even pay you via paypal
Email them or icq them tell them tom sent ya aka va2k who runs virginia amateurs they will do you right trust me.

TOM

thanks tom, i will think about it, but this won't help me to get the $322.50 back. i mean, it's not too much money, but who the fuck do they think they are?! they can't just go and fuck their customers!

Evil Chris · 01-14-2003, 11:55 AM

CeKilleR... I've sent the URL to this thread off to Rick and Mike at Websitebilling. I'm sure they will sort you out.
I want to see this taken care of as much as you do. I don't like to see my webmasters upset.

Chris

Ray@TastyDollars · 01-14-2003, 11:56 AM

Correct me if im wrong, Isnt $529.20 what you earned total. Your suppose to get a percentage of that, right? Unless maybe you get 100% of the affilate sale, then thats another story.

Ray

deleteduser · 01-14-2003, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray
Correct me if im wrong, Isnt $529.20 what you earned total. Your suppose to get a percentage of that, right? Unless maybe you get 100% of the affilate sale, then thats another story.

Ray

the sales came from the cff contest and as far as i know i am supposed to get all the money written in ym stats (expecially with the conditions from cff contest) another question, why should they write the money in the statistic summary that i wouldnt get?!

so i get 39% of whats written in the stats?! that must be a joke.

also i just checked the first cheque i got from them. the stats for 11/15/2002 - 11/31/2002 say $428.35 , the cheque i got was for $381.60

weather i am getting something wrong here or websitebilling are some of the worst scammers i've ever heared of. waiting for explaination...

JamesK · 01-14-2003, 12:11 PM

if they dont pay, contact me. ill shoot them

Chapter7 · 01-14-2003, 12:14 PM

I recieved a check for %50 of what I earned after divided commision and ill be contacting WSB later this afternoon. Someone over there must be rollin in a new car this month eh?

Evil Chris · 01-14-2003, 12:18 PM

What I believe the problem is, is that nobody (myself included) fully understands WSB's stats interface.
It's complicated to read, and that's an understatement.

It leads affiliates to believe that they are being underpaid or that they are being paid late.

I personally fielded a large amount of just these types of complaints all throughout the Christmas season.

Websitebilling.... you need to improve the user-friendliness of your stats.

deleteduser · 01-14-2003, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chapter7
I recieved a check for %50 of what I earned after divided commision and ill be contacting WSB later this afternoon. Someone over there must be rollin in a new car this month eh?

i dont understand it.. you might be right. chris just tried to explain it to me, but why do they display money in MY stats area when i only get 39% of it? thats the biggest bullshit i ever heared of.

deleteduser · 01-14-2003, 12:21 PM

and what really makes me angry is that they ignored my email i sent them before about late payment.

they make mistakes and dont even reply to questions!

Ray@TastyDollars · 01-14-2003, 12:28 PM

Im not taking sides, just tring to help. I just checked my my numbers and that total you point out on your .jpg is what i totaled for that time period. Basically, I got a check for 50% of that total. So I guess it depends on your pay out.

good luck

deleteduser · 01-14-2003, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray
Im not taking sides, just tring to help. I just checked my my numbers and that total you point out on your .jpg is what i totaled for that time period. Basically, I got a check for 50% of that total. So I guess it depends on your pay out.

good luck

lets wait for their reply.

but seriously, if they write more then the double money of what you get in the stats they would be morons and cheaters

Chapter7 · 01-14-2003, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Evil Chris
What I believe the problem is, is that nobody (myself included) fully understands WSB's stats interface.
It's complicated to read, and that's an understatement.

It leads affiliates to believe that they are being underpaid or that they are being paid late.

I personally fielded a large amount of just these types of complaints all throughout the Christmas season.

Websitebilling.... you need to improve the user-friendliness of your stats.

If its all in the stats and it says i made in total "before commision splits it" $500 i actually made $250, and that i would get a check for $125?!

Why would they bother to double the number of active customers and my total $$? If thats a stats problem they have gilligan running a fucking starship over there, so wtf??

Chapter7 · 01-14-2003, 12:54 PM

Cekiller check your check, 12/1/02 - 12/15/02 pay period. Does this explain it?

deleteduser · 01-14-2003, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chapter7
Cekiller check your check, 12/1/02 - 12/15/02 pay period. Does this explain it?

not at all, but kevin is trying to explain it to me now...

Chapter7 · 01-14-2003, 01:02 PM

if it makes sense let me know

deleteduser · 01-14-2003, 01:12 PM

as far as i got it, they "Summary" is not for you but for them?! everyhting shown there is what totally came in. under brakedown you can see what you really get from it.

but what kind of fucked up stats system is that?? i think they just want the webmaster to think that he made more money then he really made.

but i'm not toally sure if i got it right and website blling does not see any need to reply here. chris gave them the url of this thread long before. hail the webmaster support team!

eRock · 01-14-2003, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CeKilleR

lets wait for their reply.

good luck!

I don't think their stats is hard to read, they just run their business badly. Late payments not calculated right...tons of declines & refunds...what's next? Maybe not getting a check at all...

rnicey · 01-14-2003, 02:02 PM

Summary is a total overview of all the business you refered, not what you earned.

I'll be the first to admit the WSB affiliate system has some reporting issues. The main problem is that over the years there have been so many feature requests because there are so many different types of programs out there, that it has become, shall we say, complicated.

What I can do is put a short note at the top of the summary page to make it clear what you're viewing. For what you are due to be paid you need to look at the breakdown screen. This is where it all gets sorted out.

I'm sorry there is obviously confusion out there. If you at any time would like to make a suggestion to tidy up an interface please drop me a mail [email protected] and I'll see if I can get it put in for the next update.

We do hold our staff accountable for their actions and their responses. If you feel that you are not getting the service you desire, or a satisfactory explanation regarding your checks, please also drop me a mail with their name and your issue, and I will go and 'motivate' them.

Evil Chris · 01-14-2003, 09:17 PM

Thanks Robert...

Theo · 01-14-2003, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Evil Chris
What I believe the problem is, is that nobody (myself included) fully understands WSB's stats interface.
It's complicated to read, and that's an understatement.

i'm glad i reading this.....i have the same problem.

Evil Chris · 01-14-2003, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

i'm glad i reading this.....i have the same problem.

Looks as though things will start to improve. (hopefully)
CeKilleR may have over-reacted a bit about this, but I understand his frustrations in not being able to properly read all of WSB's stats.

Scootermuze · 01-14-2003, 09:49 PM

Just go to the breakdown..
The last column is your cut.
Other columns include number of sales, (New | Rebills) amount of sales, (New | Rebills).. and some others...

Nina · 01-14-2003, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

i'm glad i reading this.....i have the same problem.

me too. I have been very upset about it... it looked like to me that they owed me about $600 from a past check. I was planning to call them tomorrow. WHat really pisses me off is that I sent three emails asking them to explain and never got an answer.

ronin · 01-14-2003, 11:35 PM

me three, but i did get paid..

deleteduser · 01-15-2003, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rnicey
Summary is a total overview of all the business you refered, not what you earned.

I'll be the first to admit the WSB affiliate system has some reporting issues. The main problem is that over the years there have been so many feature requests because there are so many different types of programs out there, that it has become, shall we say, complicated.

What I can do is put a short note at the top of the summary page to make it clear what you're viewing. For what you are due to be paid you need to look at the breakdown screen. This is where it all gets sorted out.

I'm sorry there is obviously confusion out there. If you at any time would like to make a suggestion to tidy up an interface please drop me a mail [email protected] and I'll see if I can get it put in for the next update.

We do hold our staff accountable for their actions and their responses. If you feel that you are not getting the service you desire, or a satisfactory explanation regarding your checks, please also drop me a mail with their name and your issue, and I will go and 'motivate' them.

i over reacted.. but i am so tired of this. i have to beg to get any response? it's your job to get your customers happy dammit.

thats the email i send about november payments:

----- Original Message -----
From: Adult Bullet Design - Billing Department
To: [email protected]
Cc: Chris
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 4:22 PM
Subject: Late payment or any error? Whats wrong?

Hello Mike,

I am still waiting for my $458.30 from november. I expected the cheque for
december 15th or something, but now we have the 23rd! Is there anything
wrong with my account or is payment just very slow for this month?

I have another $529.20 waiting for december, hope I will get them faster.
My username is "cekiller".

Regards,
Daniel Schulte

Adult Bullet Design
[email protected]
ICQ: #58981463

no reply.. not even now.
so, why would i care what you made in total?! i am only interested in what i get! so if that's an idea of improvement for you, take it as that!

and how can i be that i only get 39% of what i made you guys? i got 100% for trials and 60% for recurring.. none of them make it understandable to get 39%

i will give you another try of email but i dont really expect an response from you or anyone else at websitebilling.

i my honest opinion your whole stats area is a mess and your support is only loughable. i will never you websitebilling again for ANY site.

01-14-2003, 11:11 AM	#1
deleteduser Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 2,218	WebsiteBilling tries to fuck with me! Anyone else made experiences with these thiefs? I am so fucking tired of websitebilling! First i had to wait weeks to get my cheque from november, i also emailed them but got no reply. now they try to fuck with me. my income in period 12/1/02 - 12/15/02 counts $529.20 and now i get a cheque of $206.70! thats $322.50 STOLEN! and i am also tired to emaily ou dumb guys again cause i didnt get an response last time! So send me my fucking money you thiefs!! Here is the proof: http://www.bulletproofgalleries.com/websitebilling.jpg __________________ ICQ #58981463 Promote my PornAccess Site: 2Chicks1Dick

01-14-2003, 11:39 AM	#2
Va2k I’m still alive barley. Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va Posts: 10,060	man go with acpay they will even pay you via paypal Email them or icq them tell them tom sent ya aka va2k who runs virginia amateurs they will do you right trust me. TOM __________________

01-14-2003, 11:55 AM	#4
Evil Chris OG Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 3rd from the Sun Posts: 13,235	CeKilleR... I've sent the URL to this thread off to Rick and Mike at Websitebilling. I'm sure they will sort you out. I want to see this taken care of as much as you do. I don't like to see my webmasters upset. Chris __________________ It PAYZE to post on GFY chris at payze.com \| Skype chriswrp

01-14-2003, 12:11 PM	#7
JamesK hi Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 16,731	if they dont pay, contact me. ill shoot them __________________ M3Server - NATS Hosting

01-14-2003, 12:14 PM	#8
Chapter7 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santa Cruz baby! Posts: 637	I recieved a check for %50 of what I earned after divided commision and ill be contacting WSB later this afternoon. Someone over there must be rollin in a new car this month eh? __________________ 29971761

01-14-2003, 11:56 AM	#5
Ray@TastyDollars www.TastyDollars.com Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 6,797	Correct me if im wrong, Isnt $529.20 what you earned total. Your suppose to get a percentage of that, right? Unless maybe you get 100% of the affilate sale, then thats another story. Ray __________________ The nets best interracial and cuckold site The nets hottest teen site ICQ me: 161 375 873

01-14-2003, 12:18 PM	#9
Evil Chris OG Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 3rd from the Sun Posts: 13,235	What I believe the problem is, is that nobody (myself included) fully understands WSB's stats interface. It's complicated to read, and that's an understatement. It leads affiliates to believe that they are being underpaid or that they are being paid late. I personally fielded a large amount of just these types of complaints all throughout the Christmas season. Websitebilling.... you need to improve the user-friendliness of your stats. __________________ It PAYZE to post on GFY chris at payze.com \| Skype chriswrp

01-14-2003, 12:21 PM	#11
deleteduser Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 2,218	and what really makes me angry is that they ignored my email i sent them before about late payment. they make mistakes and dont even reply to questions! __________________ ICQ #58981463 Promote my PornAccess Site: 2Chicks1Dick

01-14-2003, 12:28 PM	#12
Ray@TastyDollars www.TastyDollars.com Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 6,797	Im not taking sides, just tring to help. I just checked my my numbers and that total you point out on your .jpg is what i totaled for that time period. Basically, I got a check for 50% of that total. So I guess it depends on your pay out. good luck __________________ The nets best interracial and cuckold site The nets hottest teen site ICQ me: 161 375 873

01-14-2003, 12:54 PM	#15
Chapter7 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santa Cruz baby! Posts: 637	Cekiller check your check, 12/1/02 - 12/15/02 pay period. Does this explain it? __________________ 29971761

01-14-2003, 01:02 PM	#17
Chapter7 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santa Cruz baby! Posts: 637	if it makes sense let me know __________________ 29971761

01-14-2003, 01:12 PM	#18
deleteduser Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 2,218	as far as i got it, they "Summary" is not for you but for them?! everyhting shown there is what totally came in. under brakedown you can see what you really get from it. but what kind of fucked up stats system is that?? i think they just want the webmaster to think that he made more money then he really made. but i'm not toally sure if i got it right and website blling does not see any need to reply here. chris gave them the url of this thread long before. hail the webmaster support team! __________________ ICQ #58981463 Promote my PornAccess Site: 2Chicks1Dick

01-14-2003, 02:02 PM	#20
rnicey Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hollywood, FL Posts: 37	Summary is a total overview of all the business you refered, not what you earned. I'll be the first to admit the WSB affiliate system has some reporting issues. The main problem is that over the years there have been so many feature requests because there are so many different types of programs out there, that it has become, shall we say, complicated. What I can do is put a short note at the top of the summary page to make it clear what you're viewing. For what you are due to be paid you need to look at the breakdown screen. This is where it all gets sorted out. I'm sorry there is obviously confusion out there. If you at any time would like to make a suggestion to tidy up an interface please drop me a mail [email protected] and I'll see if I can get it put in for the next update. We do hold our staff accountable for their actions and their responses. If you feel that you are not getting the service you desire, or a satisfactory explanation regarding your checks, please also drop me a mail with their name and your issue, and I will go and 'motivate' them.

01-14-2003, 09:17 PM	#21
Evil Chris OG Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 3rd from the Sun Posts: 13,235	Thanks Robert... __________________ It PAYZE to post on GFY chris at payze.com \| Skype chriswrp

01-14-2003, 09:49 PM	#24
Scootermuze Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,513	Just go to the breakdown.. The last column is your cut. Other columns include number of sales, (New \| Rebills) amount of sales, (New \| Rebills).. and some others...

01-14-2003, 11:35 PM	#26
ronin Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Main St. Posts: 1,300	me three, but i did get paid..