and that is exactly what everyone did, they promoted these mf thieves.........who have no respect for anyone but themselves a bunch of fucking gypsy thieves.

Dude stop it, you are pissed out of your own thread
learn a few basic rules of communication 1on1, and come back in a few years time when you really generate sales on the way you should.

This thread is useless, your complains are stupid, your argumentation is useless, your treats are a joke, your space to deal is without air, and your appearance is brought back to zero here by yourself.

So STFU and go do some work on your website or something.
You plaid the system, you tried to trick.. and now you think you can intimidate people. You had your 15 minutes of fame, it is done now

BEEEEEEEEEYYYYYY

don't refer anyone to them, they are fucking thieves ....find more credible people to promote...

So what's the purpose of setting these cookies anyway?

OMG has anybody else NOTICED?

MICKY has changed his whale image in his avatar!

It's pretty fucked up and embarrassing to get caught stealing a WHALE image on an adult industry forum. Then to change it so obviously without trying to come up with an offer for the artist to keep using the image in question, they probably just changed it to another stolen image or a super cheap stock image without trying to compensate or credit the previous artist.

This is the same people who can't even pay me my full payment after a custerfuck of a thread against them and after me trying to collect $291.00 USD dollars for TWO MONTHS... they "credited my AWE account $35 out off that $291.00, so if I DO EVER get "the wire" it's not even my full payment!!!! ..... unacceptable.

brad

you may or may not be gay and may or may not have consumed a massive amount of methlyamphetemine

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:helpme:thumbsup:2 cents::pimp

That's very nice of you. Good attitude there dude. Keep it going.

Good find, MattO. :thumbsup
That is the proof right there.

A cookie named wacctid with the value thepirbaypu. Expiry on December 02, 2010, which means this is a 13 or 14 day cookie. :warning

wacctid = webmaster account id?

To me it looks like the webmaster cookie has been set automatically on that pop-under.

This does NOT set an affiliate cookie. Test it by clicking on an actual ad without clearing these cookies and see for yourself what happens.
This is a different cookie for different purpose I imagine.

Roald, you might want to look at the screenshot MattO posted later in this thread.

Automatic cookie stuffing happens without interaction from the user.

So what's the purpose of that cookie then? Why does that popup create 8 cookies?

Again, as stated previously

The cookie does not contain a PSID, therefore no affiliate cookie is set.
Mentioned ads do not conflict with your marketing efforts.

Cookies can be placed for a variety of reasons, two examples:
- Cookies allow the advertiser to set rules in order to limit the number of times a popunder will appear for a unique user (for example, "popunder should only appear for a unique user once every 24 hours")
- Cookies may also be used to optimize user experience (serve online performers that are the most relevant,etc.)

Neil,
As I have stated earlier, you are free to contact me via email for the affiliate ID's to which the two users have been credited (or regarding any additional questions you may have).

This is how I feel:

http://i55.tinypic.com/14wjuu.jpg

Brad,
Douglas will be in touch with you to discuss.

If the guy really waited two months before calling you out like this you ought to pay double what you owe him. :2 cents:

Mickey:

I will make one last good faith attempt to email you with a polite and professional request to work this out with you.

Your prompt and responsive reply will be appreciated.

Hopefully we can resolve this once and for all.

Have a good weekend.

Neil


As a good faith gesture I have removed the "Anti-AWE" signature

Now assuming you have read the postings in the 5 pages you have now, you should come to realize most of the webmasters here are aware of how you plaid the system.

If AWE would give in, than this means the bridge is down for everyone to walk the same road you did. This would be wrong, and can place a company like AWE in red numbers.

OK, let me sum it up

1 You sign up for AWE cause they offer you $222 per sale.
- till so fare nothing wrong, AWE did something to get your attention and that of thousands of others.

2 You realize you have a shitload of website users on your site
- Here it becomes tricky, your not an experienced AWE affiliate, so you go for a PPS deal. Even with knowing you sell your visitors ones for $222 , and not really believing your visitors would keep on spending. Yet, you claim to know your visitors like no one else, and you claim to AWE you bring in business, you should have used a REVS link then to remain something of your credibility in your statements towards AWE.

3 You offer your clients a special deal when they buy a 99 dollar package, cause PPS on AWE has a minimal spending limit before you get it, so you play safe and go for the $99.00 deal, also telling AWE how much business you are " going " to make for them. ( if that was really the case, you would have given your REVS links, knowing you have income for life on your so called loyal members ) ..Nevertheless, you say up straight to your clients you`ll offer them a bonus as reward for their first spending, the first spending that gives you a $222...
So yeah I agree, you did calculations, 222 minus 99, is 123 $ left.
Not saying you would give them a full refund on the 99, but you say you would give them a place on your VIP list, with whatever motivation you did this, i dont care

4 you let your members send you confirmations so you can check the sale, and you totally trust your members. ( this is something i would consider a RISKY statement, knowing the world is full with people who spread their version of the truth, not even keeping in mind someone would lie is just plain wrong )

5 You generate a consistent flow of PPS sales, and yet, AWE puts them in the Doubt Column and finally flags it, and your highly upset.

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So by summing this up, I kind of made clear that you plaid the system. You want to make us feel stupid cause most AWE webmasters inc me never changed the REVS to a PPS link?

Now what borders me most is the marketing bullshit you spread here, how you would made them a lot of business, while in fact you just Circle Jerked your visitors in a PPS system to make money of them. Seriously, doing it like you did is not making business, it is TAKING IT AWAY.

AWE might have a past of changing TOS in favor of them, and cutting of the sharp edges, but NEVER, and I say NEVER in my life I caught them red handed stealing or fucking up the payouts. They convert a shitload of payments every time again, when they upload their payment file, epass was just down during that period so much payments they processed in 1 move. ( sort of ) .. They do not steal sales. When you do a TEST sale, you see it goes OK. Just be sure that you tell them AFTER you did the test.
There is no where written you need to tell them BEFORE you do a test like people suggest in their comments. So, test whatever you want, you get your damn sale.

I know people who are longer then me on AWE, or started out on the same moment, we all share one opinion, AWE does not need to steal or take your sales away cause they need cash.

conclusion, play a PPS system and get your fingers burned. If you would have put your people on REVS and not see them as a leverage and introduce them as a sort of " loan " towards awe ( pay me the 222 and i make sure they keep spending ) you would have had no issues at all.

Revsharing is showing yourself you trust the people you send to a sponsor. Not doing that, and doing what you did now is just not how it works.

Now on a side note, you should be aware now that your website visitors can be used as some sort of a leverage towards your sponsors. But on this way?? This is just not how it is done.

You are free to add me on ICQ `104030 and ask me how to make commercial use of your visitors on a effective way without having the doubt if you are playing this game straight or not, respecting TOS`es and whatsoever. But then again, you can ask this to anyone on this board with experience and they will help you also without problems.

To AWE, I would have liked it very much if you keep Webmaster ID`s on your side and not send them to him. It can create a battle or accusations from left and right towards the ID that catches the sale. Not saying it is true, but for some reason I could have possible taken his sale cause his web visitors are site cheaters and they sniffed on my domains ;) And this would mean I can read soon on this forum how I must have done wrong, cause he believes so much in his own website visitors ( you can make this up from many statements ) that he seems to be willing to call the ID that won the sale a cheater.

Sidenote: One thing is for sure, this thread certainly makes use of the fonts and colors provided... carry-on! :winkwink:

Sure does! LOL

This post has been brought to you by SpaCash :2 cents:

Me giving someone a benefit of the doubt?
LOL, you know this is the adult industry right. Fuck or GET FUCKED

U used, you publicly state this, your website visitors as a leverage to create a high payout when using the PPS system. While you try to make it look legit and solid, you only make me believe more that your creative way of thinking was just not good enough for AWE.

You're just too fucking funny, having created a 5 page drama thread, now this ?:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

"For the time being that situation is once again PRIVATE between AWE and me. This is the way it should be. I hope it remains that way."

i would say them changing it was an admission of guilt. I'd be pissed to find out if one of my design guys or someone else in my company did this. It would piss me off to put me in this position. However, it is often lack of oversight or a company philosophy that opens the door for this type of thing to happen. It's a whale picture, to most people here that's not a big deal or they don't care. But it just shows their mentality that they obviously don't care about people's content being stolen, which is also evident by all of the crappy sites full of stolen content they are advertised on. :Oh crap

piece of shit company all the way around imo, from their tos changes, 14 day cookies and all the other shit they have pulled.

True, but it goes both ways ... AWE $222 PPS is an invitation for trouble.

Sounds as if you've had great success with AWE, but their $222 PPS promo should concern revshare affiliates too ... often when programs have to resort to such aggressive tactics, it's often a sign they're desperate, for whatever reason (perhaps AWE is doing fine and just want to beat last years numbers, who knows) ...

Imho, if AWE truly sought long-term webmasters / quality traffic, why don't they tout the benefits of revshare more instead ... something to ponder - revsharers don't get too comfortable ... the end could be much closer than you think - it's happened so many times with seemingly once solid programs that pushed too hard.

Ron

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Glad u liked it

I've bought ad spots on here and will say that site's traffic ROCKS! Conversions are awesome! :thumbsup

Ron, every word you just said, I have to agree with you.
I share your point for many many years. but crusading on AWE board for it, has brought me nothing but frustrations.

They did however do a little but more of revsharing promo. Perhaps they see that the 222 dollars also works against them, they get fraude sales more and more, and I think this will encourage them to just point their arrows on the long time players again, I for ones will be happy when they do.

Nevertheless, i cant help to think AWE has a TGP way of thinking.

as long I don't get fucked, they can fuck around on my domain :)

and fyi, on my network I informed my users that PPS links of AWE are not stimulating my Cookie users at all. I did this to make sure people dont start a Livejasmin Fight on my domain.

and be sure, i dont fight your personality or your history, never heard of you, so no need to post a certificate of good behavior.

Did you not think of the idea to feedback with AWE first about your plan? You did defended yourself a lot by making statements that you bring in business etc etc etc... You could have prevented defending yourself if you made with AWE a conversation first how you are planning to bring them business. They could have said up front that they agree or not.

If you do PPS, then you sell your surfers for 1 time. If you are capable of doing such a thing, then it is more then advisable to discus with AWE before you do anything.

you forgot some :2 cents:

I don't know what you mean by pushed to hard, you talk as if they will go out of business?

The reason cam programs push PPS is because it makes them a shitload more money. The average cam customer spends a LOT and those guys that spend $20,000 per month they do not want on revshare deals.

Amen to this :thumbsup

5 pages? cliff notes?

AWE being called out on questionable business practices, mix of for and against opinions in response, answers raise more questions, just another day of doing business as usual...:2 cents:

Yeah thanks for sharing this ( 1001 times on every awe thread possible )
would you care to Quote me and say it again please :321GFY

Why you hit the post button if you dont even read the thread.
5 pages and this is to much for you already????

because I wanted to know what Far-L thought

i never understood how their cookie system works. and no one could clearly explain it either. 14 days, or whatever.

but i can't shake the feeling that it's some kind of bullshit.

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Sounds about right...:1orglaugh

i think this may have been a big misunderstanding. 50% of links back up.

Agent 488 - Are you an "Agent" of AWE? This is not a misunderstanding, AWE got caught jacking affiliates around and now it's time to pay the piper.

They've brushed me and others off for TWO MONTHS and only started paying us DUE TO THIS THREAD, if it had not been for this thread we would STILL be being ignored.

They say my money is in motion, and have been saying that since early September: Yet another weekend rolls with no money received.

Please stop trying to brown nose to these slimy AWE reps and stop spreading misinformation about this being a "misunderstanding" because it's NOT, nor are YOU involved. I never asked you to pull your links.