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Old 01-13-2003, 10:59 AM   #1
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Pete Townshend Pedophile?

Check this out...

Seems like Who guitarist has gotten himself in to hot water by viewing CP "for research". He's only whipped out and paid for it one time...but didn't download ;)

Amusing to say the least.
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Old 01-13-2003, 11:02 AM   #2
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I don't see anything amusing about it, actually. He's a legand, one of the all time greats, and either he was molested as a kid (his deffense), or he's a pedophile. Not amusing at all, if you ask me.
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What's amusing is that he admits to actually paying to access a child porn site and he's trying to say that he was doing it for reasearch. He might be a legend, but that doesn't stop him from being a sicko.

Gary Glitter is a legend too...he paid the price for playing with CP. Why should this be any different? Because he's Pete Townshend. I've met the guy and had dealings with him in the past...great guy, but this kinda changes things.
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Old 01-13-2003, 11:15 AM   #4
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Pete Townshend is an extremely diverse and intelligent individual. Not only did he write Tommy, but he published a book of poetry (which I'm still trying to find, it's super rare) and edited for Random House for awhile before he went back to music.

If this is true, which it appears to be, I am extremely saddened. I always felt that Pete was an example of what musicians and celebrities should aspire to.
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Old 01-13-2003, 11:22 AM   #5
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Let's not convict him until all the facts are in. His story is weak, to say the least, but you never know.

Tommy kicks ass. Any musical with a blind Pinball player and Tina Turner playing a character called "The Acid Queen" is A+ in my book.

Whoa, flash of insight. Tommy dealth with child molestation (the uncle) and Pete wrote that...

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Old 01-13-2003, 11:23 AM   #6
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Exactly...all those accomplishments are amazing.

But they all get tarnished if he wasn't really "doing research".
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His motives aren't too far fetched. I stumbled across a website a couple of years ago trying to stop child porn on the internet. They linked to 2 child porn sites and begged everyone reading to turn it in. They had a list of all the authorities to contact and one of these sites was based in the good ole USA. 1 year later, the sites still up.

What people don't understand is that law enforcement doesn't just shut these sites down. They monitor them for years on end and compile a list of every visitor. Same thing on yahoo. They watched clubs for years with child porn as the subject and even told yahoo to leave them open. Then the bust thousands of people because they visited the site or club. Guess what, some curious people will click on a link to see if it's true. To see if there is something to turn in or if it's bullshit.

I clicked on the one the website was begging to get shut down. I saw it was still up, and turned it in to every authority listed. Like I said it was still up a year later and probably is now. This is sad, and very disturbing. Ok, so they want to bust all these people but in the meantime these kids are still being abused while the cops compile a list of who does what. That's bullshit and thats our government.
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Old 01-13-2003, 11:29 AM   #8
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?Down with the bedclothes, up with your night-shirt?

Is Pete "Uncle Ernie"?

Tommy was moletsed?
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Old 01-13-2003, 11:32 AM   #9
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I hope what he is saying is true, for fucks sake pete towshend is a fucking legend. but that doesnt change the fact that if he IS indeed getting his rocks off looking at youngins, thus supporting the demand, then thats just fucking wrong, and IF it is the case, i hope they hack his nuts off. And this guy is my idol (musically speaking) ...

Now, i know squat about the investigation, but personally, if i had his money and profile, i would think of a better way to combat cp than to do personal home research on it. I want to believe this, but damn that sounds like a weak defense.

If i am not mistaken, he has long been know to be bi, hasnt he??

And obviously something tipped them off to want to search his house or computer... what was it?

say it aint so, pete. Sparks may never sound the same.
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Quick, anyone know Pete's phone number? I want to sell him a copy of Internet Eraser.

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He lives about a mile away from me. I'm not going to comment on the situation until the court has made a decision which will probably be months and months.
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Quick, anyone know Pete's phone number? I want to sell him a copy of Internet Eraser.

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Actually they've already convisgated all his computer equipment earlier today. Just saw it on the news.
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I used to buy old guitars from him when I was working for Hard Rock. It's Pete who actually started the tradition of hanging shit on the walls in those restaurants. I enjoyed talking to him the 2 or 3 times that I did.

I'm really hoping that this isn't the case, but it sure is a weak defense.
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Just like the fucking Crusades.

They are going after anyone now.

how many priests go untouched because the catholic church spends so much to cover it up, yet they target people in the media?

its all for publicicty.
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They're targetting people the US government have passed onto the UK authorities. These people have paid for, at some stage child porn using a credit card. I think a lot of the priests/people involved in the church actually abuse the people. It is harder to catch them because it means the children abused coming forward which is obviously very traumatic for them.
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Pete has just being arrested on suspicion of possessing indecent images of children, suspicion of making indecent images of children and suspicion of incitement to distribute indecent images of children.

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Check out the caption under the pic in this article.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2651871.stm

I think I'd remember being abused if it had happened. This is starting to look bad for Mr. Pete.
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If this is true, it's fucked up! I grew up idolizing The Who
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Here is the latest:

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this is truly sad

pete townshend has always been one of my favorite musicians

not the easiest person to get along with, but certainly an extremely intelligent and creative spirit

his publicity agents seem to be doing a great job at steering clear of his sexual preference, but i'm sure that in time, this too will be fully revealed

makes me wonder what they would dig up on Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin and others had they have lived as long as Townshend

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Making and distributing? That's not good ...
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I see on CNN they just arrested Pete on child-porn charges.
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we are hearing he has been charged in the last couple of hours but I'm not sure what the charges are. Even if done for research he broke the law so it doesn't suprise me he would have some charges either way.

From what has been reported over here since he went public it was well known that he was writing a book on child abuse and pedophila. The inspiration for the book is apparently his own abuse as a five year old.

In the end none of us know the facts at the moment.
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What a fucked up world we live in...

So when will Elton John be arrested for looking at nude little boys?
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Check out the caption under the pic in this article.

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I think I'd remember being abused if it had happened. This is starting to look bad for Mr. Pete.
Not necessarily. For some kids, the strain of living in the same home, day in and day out, with the person that abuses them causes them to block the abuse from their memory. It's the only way they can go on living with this person who is supposed to take care of them but in actuality is hurting them.

Do some googling on dissociation and dissociative disorder, it should bring up some info on how and why kids "forget" abuse.

This doesn't mean I think Townshend is innocent. If this is just an excuse he's come up with to explain away his looking at CP, I'd be perfectly happy to rip his balls off myself. Don't drag other abuse survivors down by claiming abuse as a reason for getting off on CP -- that's just cowardly.
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well, tommy was a little suspect.
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it is not at all unheard of for people that were abused at such young ages to supress it. Not saying that is the case here but I don't think it has been a secret that he has felt he was abused.
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it is not at all unheard of for people that were abused at such young ages to supress it.
On a board where 18 year old program owners film their own porn and make sites, you cant expect all of them to have education.

They havent even had a Psyche class, or read a book on Sociology to understand anything. Let alone cover bases of 'engrams' and 'memory suppression.'

I think the age thing is really starting to show 'round HUR. (white boy nelly slang is funny)

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"But I have only entered once using a credit card and I have never downloaded...With hindsight, it was very foolish but I felt so angered about what was going on, it blurred my judgment."

Classic pedo statement. Too bad, he is talented. Now we know the Pinball Wizard he wrote about was probably 5 years old.


"Townshend said he was outraged when he first came across child pornography Web sites six years ago when surfing the Internet with his son Joseph, now 16. "

It's only a matter of time before Joseph exposes his daddy on molestation charges.
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I hear you Fletch. I have a degree in sociology so I suppose I try to figure things out.

Anyway, in the end we have to wait until all the facts are out and as this is a British case that won't happen until he goes to court.
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Looking at dirty pictures on the internet does not make one a pedophile.

If he actually molested a child, then that would be a problem. Until then, who cares?
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How does a CP paysite can exist?

"Join our 8 years old CP site for $2.95 for 3 days trial"

I'm pretty sure the site was something like cute-lolitas.com with barely legal teen on the tours and a notice at the bottom of the page saying "All models are 18 years old or over".

Otherwise, sorry but I don't think it was a "paysite".
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That seems to be a little more than doing research.

But let's wait and see what happens in court.
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The Feds have given the UK police a list of over 7000 names that used their credit card to join that CP site from the Uk, so far they have arrested 1200 people including 50 police officers.

Still could be alot more Pete Townsend's on the list.
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How does a CP paysite can exist?

"Join our 8 years old CP site for $2.95 for 3 days trial"

I'm pretty sure the site was something like cute-lolitas.com with barely legal teen on the tours and a notice at the bottom of the page saying "All models are 18 years old or over".

Otherwise, sorry but I don't think it was a "paysite".
I don't doubt that there are processors out there that are prepared to process for such sites, especially in countries where the laws on child pornography are quite lax.
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Looking at dirty pictures on the internet does not make one a pedophile.

If he actually molested a child, then that would be a problem. Until then, who cares?
Paying for access to a pedo site kinda makes it more suspicious. But, he was doing it for 'research'.
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How does a CP paysite can exist?

"Join our 8 years old CP site for $2.95 for 3 days trial"

I'm pretty sure the site was something like cute-lolitas.com with barely legal teen on the tours and a notice at the bottom of the page saying "All models are 18 years old or over".

Otherwise, sorry but I don't think it was a "paysite".
Actually, I have encountered several of them when I was still running a (legal) teen toplist. The fuckers were almost impossible to properly ban, kept coming back with new emails/urls/ips, but pretty much the same sites.
Reported all of 'em, but I have my doubts as to whether it helped or not.
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Looking at dirty pictures on the internet does not make one a pedophile.

If he actually molested a child, then that would be a problem. Until then, who cares?

I'm kind of wondering whether the authorities aren't going after the easy busts instead of going after the producers of CP and the CP porn rings. Ferchrissake, some poor schmoe takes a peek to satisfy his morbid curiosity (I'm not referring to Pete T here) and all of a sudden he's facing 15 years and a sex offender label? These laws are far worse than the stupid anti-pot laws. Put the guys who photograph and distribute the shit in jail. As Bertrand Russell said, "If we forbade our children from looking at trains and tore pictures of trains out of magazines, we'd create a morbid curiosity about trains." Isn't that what's going on with the CP thing? Too much hysteria and not enough logic.
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what the fuck was he researching? his next trip to Thailand?
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Regardless of the outcome, I don't think anyone will ever be able to listen to a song by The Who without thinking of this. Kinda fucked himself up good on this one. Sort of a Michael Jackson deal.

I wonder if Leno will have any Pete Townsend jokes on tonight.
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