Letter from a Bittorrent Pirate - GoFuckYourself.com

SteveLightspeed · 11-10-2010, 03:44 PM

This is a letter from a bittorrent pirate who contacted our attorney even before we contacted him.

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Hello:

My name is [redacted]. I live at [redacted].

I did some research and have discovered that this is related to copy right infringement using a Bittorrent client. I also was able to learn about you and your efforts in assisting the adult entertainment industry in defending their way of life by enforcing copyright laws. I read an interview you gave with AVN in September. You came off as a very reasonable person and this is primarily why I chose to contact you instead of waiting for you to find me. You made a comment that "we arent looking to make mountains out of molehills" that I found very encouraging in coming forward.

First of all I do not support stealing of copyrighted material via download. It is for this reason I do not download "mainstream" films or TV shows. I had never thought of pornography to be in the same category. It was not until this past summer that I began to read stories related to the adult film industry possibly going out of buissness due to file sharing. These stories caused my "willfull ignorance" related to dowloading pornography to crumble and it caused me to see there is no difference in downloading a copy of The Hurt Locker from a scene from an adult movie. This realization did not translate into a change in my behavior though.

The bottom line is you have caught me and I am in agreement that I should pay a fine. I would ask you to understand that to be able to participate in this activity, once a file is dowloaded, the user must allow others to download it as well or the user will not be allowed to participate (I think if you dont share they call it "leeching") It is for this reason that I left the files on my computer to share.

The reciept of notification of subpoena on 11/5 was a real wake up call for me and it has caused me to really look at the way I use the internet.In this your campaign has been extremely successfull with me. Make no mistake about it the fine related to this incident will hurt me and I do fear not being able to pay it. I am supportive of your campaign and regret ever engaging in this activity. You have effectively stopped me from ever doing it again and I invite you to monitor my IP address all you want in the future to verify my intentions. Please understand that your efforts in this have scared the 'heck " out of me and I have no plans of ever doing this again. I stopped as soon as I learned what all this is about.

It is my goal that by contacting you, I will save you some time and effort in tracking me down. From your interviews on the net you seem open to negotiating a settlement with each user rather than go to court. It is my hope that we can find a reasonable settlement and my contacting you will be seen to my benefit in any future settlement negotiations.It will be difficult for me to speak with you tomorrow because I cannot make a long distance call from work but I do hope we can come to some agreement. Please advise me on how you would like to move forward.

Thank you for your time

TeenCat · 11-10-2010, 03:48 PM

guantanamo for him

Jdoughs · 11-10-2010, 03:48 PM

lol he sounds like a fan.

Make him pay for a years membership and give it to him.

myneid · 11-10-2010, 03:49 PM

what was your response?

seeandsee · 11-10-2010, 03:54 PM

How much will you ask from him? :P

Adraco · 11-10-2010, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

lol he sounds like a fan.

Make him pay for a years membership and give it to him.

Sounds reasonable to me!

Allison · 11-10-2010, 03:55 PM

Very interesting to see his perception about porn and how it has now changed by reading a little bit more about the porn piracy topics.

dan@noof · 11-10-2010, 03:57 PM

What an unreasonable jerk! Take him for all he's worth.

alias · 11-10-2010, 04:00 PM

Cut the guy a break.

DWB · 11-10-2010, 04:03 PM

Hang that on the fridge with your kids report card. You won't see many of those.

I'd take it easy on him, you just may be able to convert him into a member.

Emil · 11-10-2010, 04:04 PM

Sue the shit out of him!

Brujah · 11-10-2010, 04:04 PM

Tell him he has absolutely no chance with Jordan Capri now. He blew it.

FlexxAeon · 11-10-2010, 04:04 PM

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I had never thought of pornography to be in the same category. It was not until this past summer that I began to read stories related to the adult film industry possibly going out of buissness due to file sharing. These stories caused my "willfull ignorance" related to dowloading pornography to crumble and it caused me to see there is no difference in downloading a copy of The Hurt Locker from a scene from an adult movie.

And what happened then...?
Well...in Who-ville they say
That the Grinch's small heart
Grew three sizes that day!

BestXXXPorn · 11-10-2010, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

lol he sounds like a fan.

Make him pay for a years membership and give it to him.

I am a fan of this punishment as well. The real goal here is to set an example and slow the occurrence of pirating down. Effectively, that's already been done so everything else is just reinforcement.

I would probably opt for more like 5 years... that's still nothin... and give him the five years like jdoughs said...

It'll show you're not an asshole and you're completely willing to work with people, you're just trying to protect your own property

baddog · 11-10-2010, 04:11 PM

The only drawback to making him pay for a years membership is that it is not much of a deterrent. Does not really send much of a message to others.

epitome · 11-10-2010, 04:13 PM

And there you have it. Suing these people can produce some great results. He will pay a fine and then start using PornHub for all of his stolen porn needs.

epitome · 11-10-2010, 04:14 PM

...oh and I said that about PornHub because if he didn't know torrents were bad he must not understand how illegal tubes work.

kristin · 11-10-2010, 04:18 PM

Glad to see that the media coverage is having a positive effect on this and maybe it will continue to educate more people.

brassmonkey · 11-10-2010, 04:20 PM

FlexxAeon · 11-10-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

Chio approves

Ethersync · 11-10-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

lol he sounds like a fan.

Make him pay for a years membership and give it to him.

He should offer this to everyone

SteveLightspeed · 11-10-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin

Glad to see that the media coverage is having a positive effect on this and maybe it will continue to educate more people.

"These stories caused my "willfull ignorance" related to dowloading pornography to crumble and it caused me to see there is no difference in downloading a copy of The Hurt Locker from a scene from an adult movie. This realization did not translate into a change in my behavior though."

jkthedesigner · 11-10-2010, 04:26 PM

Agreed. At least he came up front and admitted his mistakes. Many people fail to be able to do that. I'd cut him some slack and just make him pay for his year or 2 membership.

BIGTYMER · 11-10-2010, 04:27 PM

Nice letter. I bet he wrote with the hope you'd cut him some slack.

SteveLightspeed · 11-10-2010, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

lol he sounds like a fan.

Make him pay for a years membership and give it to him.

I've agreed to give a lifetime membership to all our sites to anyone that pays the standard $1900 settlement.

RaiderCash_Dominik · 11-10-2010, 04:35 PM

$1900? Thats all?

Dirty Dane · 11-10-2010, 04:36 PM

"It's only porn" is a common view. Nice to see someone start realize there are jobs and peoples life on stake in porn industry too, like any other industry.

Slutboat · 11-10-2010, 04:37 PM

Sounds like he thinks that each and every torrent user in the world is about to be served - what a tool.

will76 · 11-10-2010, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

This is a letter from a bittorrent pirate who contacted our attorney even before we contacted him.

come on steve, sounds like someone who got busted, knows he got busted and is trying to be as nice and cordial as possible to hope you let him off the hook. That would be my guess. If he is sincere, then 1 down, several millions more to go.

If you doing this to make money off of these guys then great. But I hope you don't think you will be changing the minds of many people. I'd bet he is 1 in 1,000 that would feel that way.

Seems like if these people were smart they would just go to tube sites where you wont touch them. Not to mention I don't understand the whole download files from people you don't know off of a torrent site, it just seems to beg for viruses.

will76 · 11-10-2010, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

I've agreed to give a lifetime membership to all our sites to anyone that pays the standard $1900 settlement.

$1900? is that for people who downloaded it from a torrent site or people who were sharing it with others ?

StinkyPink · 11-10-2010, 04:48 PM

Let him share your members area... lease it to him, give him a content license. Make him pay. $1900 is cheap, then they steal your content anyway.

SteveLightspeed · 11-10-2010, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

come on steve, sounds like someone who got busted, knows he got busted and is trying to be as nice and cordial as possible to hope you let him off the hook. That would be my guess. If he is sincere, then 1 down, several millions more to go.

If you doing this to make money off of these guys then great. But I hope you don't think you will be changing the minds of many people. I'd bet he is 1 in 1,000 that would feel that way.

Seems like if these people were smart they would just go to tube sites where you wont touch them. Not to mention I don't understand the whole download files from people you don't know off of a torrent site, it just seems to beg for viruses.

Where did you see me make ANY COMMENTARY about the guys letter? Seems like I can't do anything right in your eyes Will. Not really sure I care what you think now either. You just like to ride my balls on every post I make. It's really getting old.

Machete_ · 11-10-2010, 04:51 PM

the guy is totally fucked and he knows it. he made up a completely predictable sob story to get off the hook

"i've found Jesus!"

SteveLightspeed · 11-10-2010, 04:56 PM

I predict a 5 pager rager...

Chris · 11-10-2010, 04:56 PM

yea he is just writing in hopes you will feel sorry for him lol

Agent 488 · 11-10-2010, 04:57 PM

party like it's 1999.

borked · 11-10-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

I've agreed to give a lifetime membership to all our sites to anyone that pays the standard $1900 settlement.

I was going to say congrats to the winners, but I think this requires a fail pic... Would be lovely to use this quote in a court environment

Ethersync · 11-10-2010, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

$1900? is that for people who downloaded it from a torrent site or people who were sharing it with others ?

Both I think since you share as you download when using bittorrent.

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Originally Posted by Chris

yea he is just writing in hopes you will feel sorry for him lol

That's what it sounds like to me as well...

papill0n · 11-10-2010, 05:08 PM

yeah good luck with that

baddog · 11-10-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

I've agreed to give a lifetime membership to all our sites to anyone that pays the standard $1900 settlement.

Wow, very generous offer.

Intrinsic · 11-10-2010, 05:16 PM

$1900 hmm after lawyer fees do you make anything? Couldn't you have easily doubled that?

TeenCat · 11-10-2010, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

party like it's 1999.

like its 1999 with this new business model

SteveLightspeed · 11-10-2010, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Intrinsic

$1900 hmm after lawyer fees do you make anything? Couldn't you have easily doubled that?

the lawyers work on 50/50 contingency

bigluv · 11-10-2010, 05:19 PM

Sounds just like the letter I wrote so they wouldn't take my drivers license.
Had I learned my lesson? Was I sincere? I'll leave that to the reader.
There may be a market for assisting people to write this kind of stuff though. :>

signupdamnit · 11-10-2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

I've agreed to give a lifetime membership to all our sites to anyone that pays the standard $1900 settlement.

Perhaps consider reducing it to $500 under the condition that they agree to post their story on three major forums each month for a year minus personal information. They have to submit the message to you for approval along with the forums they will be posting on. they will need to submit proof of posting each month. Have the message end "DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU!"

amateurbfs · 11-10-2010, 05:23 PM

I wouldn't even waste my time torrenting lightspeed's 1999 content when I can get entire site rips of Fuck You Cash and Brazzers sites.. These guys must all be dumb asses.

SteveLightspeed · 11-10-2010, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bigluv

Sounds just like the letter I wrote so they wouldn't take my drivers license.
Had I learned my lesson? Was I sincere? I'll leave that to the reader.
There may be a market for assisting people to write this kind of stuff though. :>

Exactly, everyone is sorry after they get caught red-handed.

SteveLightspeed · 11-10-2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Perhaps consider reducing it to $500 under the condition that they agree to post their story on three major forums each month for a year minus personal information. They have to submit the message to you for approval along with the forums they will be posting on. they will need to submit proof of posting each month. Have the message end "DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU!"

We are giving them a confidentiality promise with their settlement. I'm not looking to shame anyone.

signupdamnit · 11-10-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

We are giving them a confidentiality promise with their settlement. I'm not looking to shame anyone.

That's good. I was thinking more of having them post a story in order to help get the word out that people are getting busted, not so much to embarrass anyone. "Viral anti-piracy marketing" ?

SteveLightspeed · 11-10-2010, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by amateurbfs

I wouldn't even waste my time torrenting lightspeed's 1999 content when I can get entire site rips of Fuck You Cash and Brazzers sites.. These guys must all be dumb asses.

I STARTED in 1999, at least get your bullshit facts straight....

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