so then even though people are "tested" they still don't know if the person they are working with has HIV or AIDs. Sounds very dangerous. Surprised more talent doesn't get it.

or gets fucked by anybody else from outside the industry.

thats why condom only shoots are the only way to improve safety

The word "svelte" is derived from French and Italian by way of the original Latin "ēvellere" [from ex- + vellere, to pull], not from Yiddish.

Quoted for truth.

Probably easier to list the ones who don't do it.

I'm not sure where "porn talent" and "responsible" got connected, but generally the two words do not go together.

That is the ONLY sure fire way to be safe, but it's never going to happen on a global scale.

Just when I think you cannot come up with something more ridiculous. You are such a brainwashed Buffoon.

You trying to tell me you cannot get aids from straight sex??? Really???

man you guys down in the trenches really go through some shit sometimes

i cant imagine what it would be like waiting around for some test results like that

keep your head up xxxjay...its not your fault the guy was fucking around unsafely on the side

Should agencies also police the female talent as well? As most of the agencies female talent does private's and uncovered to boot (joe you know what I mean you the master of the $300 private) if you don't believe it check it out for yourself.

The Luxury Companion dot com

diamond foxxx. . . . there goes my bank balance!

But on a serious note, thats a hell of a lot of main talent!

it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who runs that eh.

FYI: Any public disclosure violates Health and Safety Code sections 121025(e) and 120980, both of which impose criminal (a misdemeanor) and civil penalties. The civil penalties are between 5 and 10k, and the defendant is also liable for all actual damages to the person disclosed, including economic, bodily or psychological harm. He is also liable for invasion of privacy, and public disclosure of private facts, and intentional infliction of emotional distress. The criminal penalties go up to 25k and a year in jail.

As long as you only fuck the pretty ones, you'll be OK. :upsidedow


Over here, we don't have AIM or anything like them so I actually have to take them to the hospital myself. I'm also in the room when the doctors tell them when they have HIV. The first 5 or 6 times was heavy, but it doesn't really bother me anymore. I go in the room with them to make sure the model doesn't pay off the doctor for a clean test result should they be sick. That sort of thing (doctor pay off) happens here. :Oh crap

The worst part is, considering they are all hookers, is seeing someone you know who just tested HIV+ walking around with a customer a few days later. You want to say something to him, but it's not your place, and in truth, he is a grown man who knows the risks. So... I mind my own business.

How much did AIM end up paying out to Darren James over all of that?

How many times have you taken someone in for a test who tested positively? How do they generally react? Heavy indeed...


You need to write a book or a screenplay. Seriously...

To those that think it is a gay disease need to spend some time with facts:

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/survei...ivaidsexposure

Oh, look at that, damn near 60/40.

Wow, you really like to gloss over the facts to try to prove a point, don't you.

Rate of infection is about 60/40.

There are A LOT more than 4% MSM in the US. Try 15% or more.

But that doesn't even matter because at the end of the day, just about half of the people getting HIV are heterosexual, which proves that straight people need to use condoms, especially in the sex industry. Straight, gay, bi, black, Hispanic, Asian, it doesn't matter.

Not to be an asshole ...

Joe, I take it you will no longer be shooting with girls that do privates either? And you will verify they don't do privates HOW? Because asking them always works .... LOL

NO ONE knows what anyone does in their private life and their is no controlling or regulating that. You can pick up a girl from a bar and contract something. A girl can have no idea she had a boyfriend that was a switch hitter. A house wife can have no idea her husband is seeing a hooker while he is suppose to be at the gym. Everything everywhere is a risk. This is simply about risk management and while it maybe silly, i think everyone is doing their best.

In the great words of Doctor House: EVERYONE LIES!

Will you be going after ********, http://********.com/read.php?ID=44554 Joe's source or just Joe ?


By you quoting Joe, you are basically posting the information here again. Is that really any different then Joe posting the information quoting another source. You should have "xxxxxxx" out the guys name when you quoted Joe, instead of you continuing to spread the private information you seem adamant on not having distributed.

HIV doesnt have to kill u.. just saying'

know a dude with hiv for 15+yrs now, he is healthy as fuck, exercises, eats healthy.. never gets sick.. get doc checkups constantly, and doesnt take hiv meds..


magic johnson is not the only person who is alive with HIV.. actually AIDS is not even a top 10 leading cause of death in the USA.. Try cancer, accidents, etc..

AIDS kills people in africa because in addition to the hiv, healthcare is poor, nutrition, hygiene, etc, all lacking.

what HIV does is lower ur immune system..the guy i know just monitors his and tracks his body daily.. when u eat 100% healthy, eliminate stress, and take some immune supplements, you can survive with hiv for a long ass time

carry on

That is up to patient zero and I can't confirm or deny who that is for legal and ethical reasons. On the advice of my attorney, I will no longer be posting in this thread.

As far as I know, J-Rock went public first. I know other agents knew as soon as it happened but were professional enough not to.

Who get's sued? Who knows?

:thumbsup

Robbie,

You are a funny, intelligent guy and I admire your work and your posts, but high blood pressure can often be mitigated by lifestyle choices (such as losing weight and changing diet). It also is not contagious. It cannot be inflicted on someone by someone else. HIV can.

Cancer is a terrible disease, and of the two I would prefer HIV over stage 4 cancer, but it is the fact that an otherwise healthy person can be given HIV by exposure to an infected person that causes the stigma and the fear.

Thankfully, I have not had any in over a year, but in the past have been in the office about 20 times when they were told. Their reaction is almost always the same, which is serious but quiet, listening to everything the doctor says. Only a couple of them fell apart. However, ALL of them continue to work as prostitutes afterwards.

Nasty if it is true....

In light of what is going on remember, something positive always happens out of something negative, the United States adult industry will become safer

Exactly this, this, and this.

It seems like the AIM system is doing what it is supposed to do, in catching the infection early, notifying the folks who needed to be notified, quarantining the folks who need to be quarantined, and OC Modeling pulling the definitely positive talent off their roster.

House is my hero! Love him!

Most of the producers I know knew who patient zero was from day 1 when they checked the AIM database. Everyone was calling each other and figured it out almost instantly.

who is the cunt, on the quarantine list trying to get work..NEED NAMES NOW
What A Cluster Fuck
By MikeSouth
October 15th, 2010

I got confirmation today that someone on the quarantine list printed a copy of their AIM test before it was taken down from the database and is trying to use it to work.

Nice.

Come on AIM if you can't do any better than this are you surprised AHF is going to run you out of town? Telling people NOT to come forward is wrong on about a hundred levels, stop trying to set yourselves up as Gods and start being forthright with talent.

I want to talk to anyone who is currently under quarantine....I will keep your identity completely hidden not even your sex will be noted, I have a lot of questions. Email me if you are willing.

we pretty much aren't talking about this stuff on the boards either. I view this as an inhouse situation that doesn't really concern 'webmaster and surfers':2 cents:

we check the database before a shoot, if there is an issue we call AIM. no one is going to sneak by

Can quarantined models still do solo work?

sounds like a good attorney

yes... no contact with others

Yes, just most were smart enough to not post the guess on a public board, as you have done already.

link to post please?

Correct.

There is no sneaking by. If the test isn't in the AIM data base, there is no shoot. Its that simple.



I am going to go out on a limb here with a prediction:


I think that nobody's tests will come up positive for HIV other than patient Zero and maybe his live in girlfriend.

Patient zero was not a very used, popular strait performer and it is less likely to contract HIV through strait non anal vaginal sex.



Furthermore if this guy is getting tooled in the ass from dudes, i would venture to say that the home sex life may have been lacking.




My final answer: Nobody but patient Zero will have contracted HIV.


And thats thanx to AIMs quick action.:2 cents:

Something positive has happened already. :warning


I have no shot in LA in years so things may be a little different now, but does every single shoot, for every sized company or one man show, get logged at AIM now? If not, there are a lot of holes left wide open. Can someone bring me up to speed on this.

What about people who don't test at AIM and use another service?

I'm going with this as well

no shoots are logged at AIM... the agencies and producers keep track of the shoots, as it should be. I would imgaine that AIM called the agencies to sort out the 'list' as well as asking the talent themselves.

not very many other 'services' are excected however we as producers know who they are and the talent and agents do as well and ALL have a choice to shoot or not with a non AIM test

J-Rock had it removed.