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Alky 10-14-2010 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17607414)
Are you? You are saying you'd rather have a death sentence from an advanced case of cancer and be dead from a painful death within months?

Tell that to Magic Johnson and the millions of other people who have been alive and well for decades with HIV.

Fuck, never mind...

THIS is the reason that it shouldn't be anybodies business except the producers who may want to shoot a scene and look the model up on AIM and see if they are quarantined or not. Everything else is ignorance and panic.

who brought cancer up in this thread? you. pretty convenient to fit your argument i'd say.

i can play that game as well...hmmmmmmm lets see... would i rather jump off the empire state building, or contract HIV.... thanks for the options. wow catching HIV sounds GREAT! :thumbsup

Robbie 10-14-2010 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Alky (Post 17607444)
who brought cancer up in this thread? you. pretty convenient to fit your argument i'd say.

i can play that game as well...hmmmmmmm lets see... would i rather jump off the empire state building, or contract HIV.... thanks for the options. wow catching HIV sounds GREAT! :thumbsup

Don't be foolish man. The quote you attacked me on said this:
"just saying that folks seem to get in a panic over HIV (which isn't life threatening anymore). I'd feel more sorry for the guy if he was stricken with advanced cancer and REALLY had a death sentence on him."

SO YES I WAS TALKING ABOUT CANCER!!!

Did you even bother to read what you were replying to? Jesus Fucking Christ! lol

RaiderCash_Dominik 10-14-2010 02:36 PM

I still dont get how straight guys get into gay porn. Ewww.

Bodie 10-14-2010 03:47 PM

AMACONTENT... if it is was said (and it has been) you have herpes and hpv (a cancer giving disease) are we all across the business suppose to believe these rumors? Are we supposed to take all the talk as fact?

It might be true the young man is patient 0, then again it might not, it might be true you have herpes than again it might not, in either case only you and patient zero know the truth.

The only truth so far is that an individual has tested positive for HIV, Joe I ask you this if you tested positive for HIV would you want the world to know and have your personal business spread every which way? The answer (and yes I can answer this for you) is NO, cause 3 days after you find out you have a life altering disease the last thing on your mind is oh I better come out. Mabey this individual needs answers themselves?
I guess we all can continue to speculate on what we?d do if we were patient 0.. Let?s just be happy at the fact that we don?t have to

rogueteens 10-14-2010 03:54 PM

This must be the most pathetic thread i've ever seen on GFY, mis-informed people lecturing other ill-informed people.

TheDA 10-14-2010 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 17607089)
Show me the article on RandarOnline.com - it doesn't exist.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusive...ds-other-stars

nikki99 10-14-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17607012)
i want condoms mandatory worldwide in all productions

me too ............

marketsmart 10-14-2010 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 17607782)
me too ............

why? you can't get pregnant....

or can you? :1orglaugh







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billywatson 10-14-2010 04:27 PM

A Rentboy link for Cameron Reed.

Just sayin'.

Altwebdesign 10-14-2010 04:28 PM

50 oc models!

Altwebdesign 10-14-2010 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 17607870)
A Rentboy link for Cameron Reed.

Just sayin'.

Safe Sex: Always safe . . . . Guess that rules him out then!! :Oh crap :error

Ethersync 10-14-2010 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 17607870)
A Rentboy link for Cameron Reed.

Just sayin'.

So he is doing straight porn, gay porn and gay escorting? How nice...

Twitter page dead: http://twitter.com/DChambersxxx

V_RocKs 10-14-2010 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 17606955)
you realize there are gay actors who are not gay right? most people try to break into the industry doing this, all while they are married with a family.

not that I am gay or taking sides, but whos to say some m/f actor does not go around banging whores at night clubs and gets something? could of been either way... :2 cents:

Dude.... So you are gay? Shit. Um... Wow... I never would have imagined.

DWB 10-14-2010 05:14 PM

For those of you sitting in porn valley sweating over a few HIV+ performers, I'd love to have you come over to Thailand and see what a real HIV+ cluster fuck is like.

Not sure what all of you expect. Your guys are fucking guys and your girls are escorts on the side, some of them barebacking for extra money (god bless them). The fact that you've only had a few positive tests over the years is very surprising to me.

amacontent 10-14-2010 05:17 PM

OC Modeling didnt do anything, nor does any agency out there. With all the shit that is transmitted why isnt there a screening process to prevent gay actors or gay for pay actors from working with straight. My 2 cents. I have absolutelyy no problem with homo sexuality. Gay Marrige or anything like that. I do however say they should stay with thier own.

Noe 10-14-2010 05:23 PM

Not that this isn't a serious matter..but at the end of the day the percentage of HIV cases in the industry is minute compared to the number of performers shooting day after day. I would much rather take my chances fucking performers in the industry over the typical LA guy/girl off the street.

epitome 10-14-2010 05:27 PM

Don't blame it on the M/M sex. Blame it on straight production companies not requiring condoms like they should.

Most gay studios have gone condoms only and gay is much stronger than straight right now so that whole "nobody will buy it" argument is full of shit. Yes, there would still be bareback straight studios and they may sell more copies, but it's nothing different than what the gay industry experiences right now.

Plus, the most popular gay sites are condom only.

Time to start using condoms AND testing like most gay studios and stop putting your models at risk.

Even if you start screening for prior M/M work there is going to come a day when a 100% hetero actor turns up poz from being an inter-venous drug user.

Do the right thing and save a life. Condom only sets.

billywatson 10-14-2010 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 17608025)
Most gay studios have gone condoms only and gay is much stronger than straight right now so that whole "nobody will buy it" argument is full of shit. Yes, there would still be bareback straight studios and they may sell more copies, but it's nothing different than what the gay industry experiences right now.

Plus, the most popular gay sites are condom only.

Can't compare the two IMO. In the gay community, HIV has been an issue for almost 30 years now. Shooting bareback in gay porn means a backlash from the gay consumer. That's a fact; in addition, I spoke with a gay producer a few years back when I was still green to all this, and he told me "there would be no gay porn if the performers had to test."

I agree 100% that we should be using condoms in straight movies, btw.

$5 submissions 10-14-2010 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17607012)
i want condoms mandatory worldwide in all productions

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

deanberkeley 10-14-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 17608071)
I spoke with a gay producer a few years back when I was still green to all this, and he told me "there would be no gay porn if the performers had to test."

How irresponsible of him. Who was it? :2 cents::2 cents:

RaiderCash_Dominik 10-14-2010 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 17607870)
A Rentboy link for Cameron Reed.

Just sayin'.

Thats just nuts. And this guy has a girlfriend?

marketsmart 10-14-2010 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 17607998)
OC Modeling didnt do anything, nor does any agency out there. With all the shit that is transmitted why isnt there a screening process to prevent gay actors or gay for pay actors from working with straight. My 2 cents. I have absolutelyy no problem with homo sexuality. Gay Marrige or anything like that. I do however say they should stay with thier own.

besides our differences i am going to agree and disagree with you for whatever that's worth..

first, you made a thread saying "Way To Go OC Modeling", so by that title it would appear that you are blaming OC.

Is it really up to the talent agencies to monitor models STD's? Isn't that what AIM is supposed to do?

second, i believe that bisexuals, especially male bi's, are the main cause for the spread of HIV to heterosexual females which ultimately leads to the spread of HIV to straight males.

of course iv drug users are a major cause of spreading bloodborne diseases, but i think the case in point here is within the adult film industry..

with that being said, why on earth would a studio or female actress take the chance of shooting with a gay/bi male performer when the incubation period of HIV is still a question mark?

the other major problem i have with testing is that you only need a recent test to shoot scenes that does not factor in the fact that a performer could have had unprotected sex with an infected partner days before a shoot and therefore may be infected and still have a clean test..

to me, the system has always been flawed and i am surprised that there have not been more issues in the past..

how many events like this are going to be needed before stricter standards are put into place?

maybe if the studio owners had to have unprotected sex with performers before the shoot. there would be more concern... :2 cents:










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epitome 10-14-2010 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 17608071)
Can't compare the two IMO. In the gay community, HIV has been an issue for almost 30 years now. Shooting bareback in gay porn means a backlash from the gay consumer. That's a fact; in addition, I spoke with a gay producer a few years back when I was still green to all this, and he told me "there would be no gay porn if the performers had to test."

I agree 100% that we should be using condoms in straight movies, btw.

Testing is a lot more common these days. Many studios use the same 20 minute oral swab that the free clinics use. 99.9% accuracy with that 0.1% usually being false positives ... but I'd rather have a false positive than being a false negative.

I prefer using the free clinic for the same swab and making a $35 donation which covers their cost plus a few dollars. They'd be more than happy to do it for free though.

Then you can sero match, which means HIV+ actors can still perform, but only with other HIV+ actors -- and still with condoms so that in case they have different strands they do not re-infect.

Indeed, there is a backlash against bareback videos ... overall. It still has its fans though. Most of my consumer friends like bareback videos because they're forced to use condoms in everyday life and it's a way to enjoy it without putting themselves at risk. Of course, the models are still at risk. :Oh crap

HIV isn't all models have to worry about. Hepatitis makes life a real bitch and sometimes kill.

All can be avoided with condoms.

epitome 10-14-2010 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17608121)
maybe if the studio owners had to have unprotected sex with performers before the shoot. there would be more concern... :2 cents:

:thumbsup

Grapesoda 10-14-2010 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17607984)
For those of you sitting in porn valley sweating over a few HIV+ performers, I'd love to have you come over to Thailand and see what a real HIV+ cluster fuck is like.

Not sure what all of you expect. Your guys are fucking guys and your girls are escorts on the side, some of them barebacking for extra money (god bless them). The fact that you've only had a few positive tests over the years is very surprising to me.

the porn industry here in the valley is pretty 'clean' considering how it is in other places... AIM does a great job

Alprazolam 10-14-2010 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Noe (Post 17608015)
Not that this isn't a serious matter..but at the end of the day the percentage of HIV cases in the industry is minute compared to the number of performers shooting day after day. I would much rather take my chances fucking performers in the industry over the typical LA guy/girl off the street.

Can you post a pic? I'd fuck you. When's the next tradeshow?

NemesisEnforcer 10-14-2010 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 17607870)
A Rentboy link for Cameron Reed.

Just sayin'.

Interesting, the last patient 0 is an escort as well.

jackknoff 10-14-2010 06:53 PM

Everyone seems to be focused on gay sex as the initial exposure. Ever think that maybe patient zero had a heroine problem? Sharing needles is another way to be exposed to AIDS. Just floating around another possible scenario, playing devils advocate. How many of you in the business have seen some serious drug use by those in the industry? They really haven't identified who patient zero is yet, so far it's only rumors... It'll come out soon enough. I really hope no one else is infected, wishful thinking...

Spanx!
Jack

DWB 10-14-2010 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 17608154)
the porn industry here in the valley is pretty 'clean' considering how it is in other places... AIM does a great job

No doubt, that's what I'm saying. Though, I'm leaning more towards luck than AIM, because AIM only catches them once they have HIV. My surprise comes from how little HIV cases there have been.

Grapesoda 10-14-2010 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17608238)
No doubt, that's what I'm saying. Though, I'm leaning more towards luck than AIM, because AIM only catches them once they have HIV. My surprise comes from how little HIV cases there have been.

outside of high risk groups HIV isn't really that common. it's the 'special interest lobbies' that make HIV seem like a common occurrence.


http://www.avert.org/usa-race-age.htm


statistics suggest that most HIV cases in the US are homosexual and or black.

'The overall 5-year relative lung cancer survival rate for 1995-2002 was 15 percent.'

and like someone here in this thread did suggest I would be happy to have HIV instead of lung cancer. :2 cents:

MaDalton 10-14-2010 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 17608125)

HIV isn't all models have to worry about. Hepatitis makes life a real bitch and sometimes kill.

All can be avoided with condoms.

as i understand AIM does not test for Hepatitis, which i never understood. just as life threatening but much easier to spread.

but the condom thing only works if at least 80% of the big and medium size companies are in

vittle 10-14-2010 07:32 PM

who is he dating?

Young 10-14-2010 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by vittle (Post 17608303)
who is he dating?

Compare the current version of OC modelings female talent page with Googles cached version. It's not hard to tell. And judging by the status of her booking availability she was brand new to OC.

billywatson 10-14-2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by deanberkeley (Post 17608091)
How irresponsible of him. Who was it? :2 cents::2 cents:

None of your beezness, mister.

vittle 10-14-2010 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 17608325)
Compare the current version of OC modelings female talent page with Googles cached version. It's not hard to tell. And judging by the status of her booking availability she was brand new to OC.

Looks like 4 girls have been removed since the google cache. 3 of them are very new to the biz

will76 10-14-2010 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 17606945)
Cameron Reid, male actor repped by OC Modeling , who apparently has a nice supply of gay films under his belt , is the HIV ground zero patient..

http://********.com/read.php?ID=44554

Maybe some backround checks on these male models should be done. Will we ever learn. There is Seth Dickens on the site also whos been on gay box covers. Lets make it easy for the people who wanna shut us down in LA shall we. Geez.

Message to male actors out there.

IF YOU WANNA STICK YOUR COCK IN THE ASS OF SOMEONE WHO WAS BORN A MAN>> STAY OUT OF OUR PART OF THE INDUSTRY !!!!!!!

Can I ask you a question, as I am not a content producer.

HIV/AIDS.... they get tested every week, before every shoot? How do they currently do it or are suppose to do it. Next question, how long do you have to have AID/HIV before it will show up on a test? If the person contracted it a couple days before would it show up on a test?

JustDaveXxx 10-14-2010 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 17607870)
A Rentboy link for Cameron Reed.

Just sayin'.

WOW!!! Just wow!! That is what kills us! Privates without condoms. Gay and strait!!


I shoot a lot of porn and people think im so professional because i don't hit on the girls or try to bang them. Shit like this+herpes makes it way easy to look professional.:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

xxxjay 10-14-2010 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17608121)
first, you made a thread saying "Way To Go OC Modeling", so by that title it would appear that you are blaming OC.

Is it really up to the talent agencies to monitor models STD's? Isn't that what AIM is supposed to do?
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Because the law won’t let us. When AIM named the HIV positive person and the quarentine list in 2004 they got sued because they were actually giving out medical information which you are not allowed to do. They paid a lot in that lawsuit.
Source:
http://www.lukeisback.com/?p=14204


To AMA Joe: And if that doesn't work I'm going to beat you fat disgusting ass. The only way you can get pussy is basically paying for a private and calling in a "POV"? Weren't you just at my house on my birthday on 9/11/2010 enjoying my carne asada, beer, women, and liquor? Couldn't you have expressed your opinions to me in private without going to GFY, and (I might add) breaking the law?

PS: Every agency has male talent that are "switch hitters" and have done gay porn to break into the business. Not just us. Everyone!! Even the legendary male pornstars have a few gay scenes under their belt.

On a side note: I happen to agree with you on the whole gay men not being in straight porn, however: AIM, no agency on Earth, or any other group that I know of can keep track of what a performer is doing in their private lives 24/7.

Hence, the title of this thread I find especially insulting and enraging. AIM acted in a 100% professional manner and notified 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation performers within 24 hours. Kudos to them on that.

In A Nutshell: Expect to be hearing from our lawyers. You will be sued. You will lose. You will pay us money. If that doesn't work, see me out in public, I've survived a year in prison in Atlanta without being killed, I am not a pushover. I'm not afraid to slap you like the bitch you are.

AMA Joe :321GFY

NaughtyRob 10-14-2010 08:00 PM

Industry standard is once per month. A test is good for 30 days. Some female performers have been known to require that the male talent get a fresh test and don't work with anyone else until working with her. Tough thing to do and expensive but to fuck Sasha Grey I'd do that.

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17608336)
Can I ask you a question, as I am not a content producer.

HIV/AIDS.... they get tested every week, before every shoot? How do they currently do it or are suppose to do it. Next question, how long do you have to have AID/HIV before it will show up on a test? If the person contracted it a couple days before would it show up on a test?


deanberkeley 10-14-2010 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 17608327)
None of your beezness, mister.

Anyone that puts models at risk in that manner should be outed. :thumbsup


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