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stocktrader23

10-15-2010 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 17608691)

Sigh. The facts are that unprotected anal sex is a lot less safe than vaginal or oral sex. Are we going to stop having anal in porn or permitting performers who have anal sex in their personal lives from performing in porn?

No shit? And the other fact is that guys that sleep with guys are the highest risk group there is. It doesn't matter what the underlying cause is (anal) because that group is more dangerous by a few orders of magnitude.

This simple minded defend the gays stance you and xxx jay have chosen to take is extremely fucking retarded. Just know that.

Nathan

10-15-2010 12:33 AM

For those that do not know...

AIM tests performers as often as the performer wants to be tested. Usually the industry demands a test and verifies it on AIM's website which is not older than 30 days.

AIM does blood tests using the RNA method, as far as I know. They take longer to do, but react sooner after infection than anti-body tests. 9-11 days after infection they are positive.

The reason why so many people here complain about gay / straight performers is that with unprotected anal sex infection risk is 1-3% (1.7% one study says), and is the highest risk in sexual transmission. Female to Male transmission via non-anal sex is 0.04% and Male to Female is 0.08%. So anal sex is a LOT riskier (20 times compared to make to female).

But any anal sex in adult obviously is as dangerous. So I do not understand the hate against OC Modeling, makes no sense to me...

The thing I also do not understand is why people are so afraid. AIM acted perfectly as expected. All 1st and 2nd gen performers are quarantined. They will not get tests and so any real studio in the US will not shoot with them. Obviously there might be criminals out there, but then even mandatory condom use will not help since there will be as many criminals there too.

Not a single one of the tests of 1st and 2nd gen have returned positive for now. The system is working perfectly. Sure there is a risk in the industry because of the frequency of tests and the 9-11 days a test returns positive, but the risk is very very small compared to barebacking outside of the industry. Much smaller!

Even with condom use, I _bet_ this outbreak would still have happened, since patient zero obviously infected himself OUTSIDE of the industry...

Socks

10-15-2010 01:20 AM

Nathan, at what point will Brazzers start shooting again?

Machete_

10-15-2010 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 17606945)

Cameron Reid, male actor repped by OC Modeling , who apparently has a nice supply of gay films under his belt , is the HIV ground zero patient..

fags should be banned from doing straight porn

:2 cents:

Nathan

10-15-2010 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 17608808)

Nathan, at what point will Brazzers start shooting again?

Socks, as soon as AIM removes the quarantine. All our performers that we had scheduled were retested as far as I know right now, and none of them are positive, but we are still of course waiting. The 2nd test for anyone in the quarantine list will be next week as far as I understand, since it will be 99% accurate at that time based on when patient zero was tested positive.

We expect to know that everything is safe by no later than the 25th of this month unless there is another case.

We are also currently testing production crews in Europe and most of them are shooting as far as I know.

Any production we are involved in in Europe uses more screening though just to be safe right now, tests have to be very new for example, ie a few days old max.

deanberkeley

10-15-2010 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17608841)

fags should be banned from doing straight porn

:2 cents:

How do you find out someone is a 'fag'? There are lots of women out there who are married to 'fags' and have no idea. There are also lots of churches out there with 'fags' at the helm and no one really knows. Do you have a test to find out this 'fagism' ?

charlie g

10-15-2010 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 17608345)

Source:
http://www.lukeisback.com/?p=14204

To AMA Joe: And if that doesn't work I'm going to beat you fat disgusting ass. The only way you can get pussy is basically paying for a private and calling in a "POV"? Weren't you just at my house on my birthday on 9/11/2010 enjoying my carne asada, beer, women, and liquor? Couldn't you have expressed your opinions to me in private without going to GFY, and (I might add) breaking the law?

PS: Every agency has male talent that are "switch hitters" and have done gay porn to break into the business. Not just us. Everyone!! Even the legendary male pornstars have a few gay scenes under their belt.

On a side note: I happen to agree with you on the whole gay men not being in straight porn, however: AIM, no agency on Earth, or any other group that I know of can keep track of what a performer is doing in their private lives 24/7.

Hence, the title of this thread I find especially insulting and enraging. AIM acted in a 100% professional manner and notified 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation performers within 24 hours. Kudos to them on that.

In A Nutshell: Expect to be hearing from our lawyers. You will be sued. You will lose. You will pay us money. If that doesn't work, see me out in public, I've survived a year in prison in Atlanta without being killed, I am not a pushover. I'm not afraid to slap you like the bitch you are.

AMA Joe :321GFY

DUDE, if I could rep you I would.. Way to bring it..... I would like to set up a pay per view on this!

stocktrader23

10-15-2010 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by deanberkeley (Post 17608852)

You can start with the ones that offer to take it in the ass for cash.

charlie g

10-15-2010 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by deanberkeley (Post 17608483)

My point exactly. As a person who has been around several close friends when they found out they were HIV+ and how just the stigma of the disease changes their lives even when they have no symptoms. In fact, none have developed AIDS. The depression, the suicidal tendencies, it is not a pretty sight and it changes their lives forever. It is not something you want to see a friend, or for that matter another human being, have to go through.

Already while I am reading this thread I cringe at the fact that if it is this guy who tested positive, he is being publicly outed and ridiculed in this manner. In what is already probably one of the most trying and difficult times of his life, he now is dealing with it in a very public way that must be absolutely brutal for him to endure.

I feel sorry for him, and wish more people would treat this situation with a little more respect. :2 cents:

Well, put me on your ignore list too then. I feel sorry for the guy for the illness, but it isnt like a common cold. This fucker was engaged in risky behavior and it caught up with him. So because he was irresponsible, he has risked the health of untold others. The last thing I care about are his feelings at this point. He should be stigmatized, pointed out and ridiculed.

So if I hurt your ginger gay feelings~ :321GFY

xxxjay

10-15-2010 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deanberkeley (Post 17608737)

Are you drunk?

Yes, I'm drunk -- you fucking faggot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by deanberkeley (Post 17608737)

For someone who is representing a company who by all speculation accounts had patient zero on their talent roster, you sure are making some pretty nasty comments about HIV and AIDS.

Yep, that's just my sense of humor, and let me emphasize the word HUMOR (See: Sarcasm, irony) - the shit I've said in just in far less homophobic than the comments of that fat lard ass AMA Joe; who should be beaten about the head with a Louisville Slugger, dropped in an alley, burned at the stake, and eaten by rats. I feel bad for the rats though -- that are sure to die from a massive doses of cholesterol while eating his fat bloated carcass!

Quote:

Originally Posted by deanberkeley (Post 17608737)

I hope if it was your company that you did indeed show your talent a little more respect than the last sentence that was posted here.

I'm actually with Joe on this one. Bi performers have no business in straight porn. Had I known, I would have stopped it. We have 50+ performers on our roster. Keeping track of what they do in their off time is impossible and that is not to mention all of the directors, producers, cameramen, PA's, and everyone else that fucks these guys and girls. AIM does their job and they do it well. If AIM couldn't this situation would be much worse. Again, Kudos to AIM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by deanberkeley (Post 17608737)

I understand you are mad and upset about the accusations and the way it was thrown out there about you, but step away from the computer and calm down a bit. I don't think responses like this one will gain you much credibility or respect. :2 cents:

No way dood! Speaking my mind on GFY, on the phone, or to your face is exactly how I got "credibility" in this business to start with. In 14 years of webmastering (or whatever you call this stupid job) -- I've never fucked anyone over, stolen anyone's money, or intentionally hurt someone.

Ask anyone!

Now it is my mission, indeed my life goal, to drag AMA's Joe's FAT ass through the dirt, just like he did mine. There will be no relenting, there will be no apologies, there will just be Joe getting fatter and fatter, until (one day) he is consumed by his own corpulence and have a long overdue stroke.

Oh yeah, Joe: Out of every porn chick I've talked to: They all sat you creep them out. Work on it, you fat fuck!

PS: GO DIE! :321GFY:321GFY

Is my message clear enough?

GatorB

10-15-2010 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 17606955)

you realize there are gay actors who are not gay right? most people try to break into the industry doing this, all while they are married with a family.

Hey didn't say anything about anyone being gay. He said if you stick your dick in a dude's ass do not to straight porn.

charlie g

10-15-2010 02:57 AM

xxxjay, you're my hero. Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!

xxxjay

10-15-2010 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 17608912)

xxxjay, you're my hero. Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you, I'm glad somebody here has a brain!
:thumbsup

madtwin

10-15-2010 03:17 AM

waiting for more drama...

xxxjay

10-15-2010 03:26 AM

Joe, end of the day....you started this thread to destroy my business. So now it has become my mission to destroy you, your business, your body, you finance, and reputation.

Just remember who started this.

I'm going to bed and expect to wake up to a shitstorm, but a least I will still be svelte and handsome, while you will be seconds from a cholesterol induced stroke.

Machete_

10-15-2010 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 17608945)

and reputation.

i sale cheap negative rep

u-Bob

10-15-2010 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17608336)

how long do you have to have AID/HIV before it will show up on a test?

can be up to 6 months.

DamianJ

10-15-2010 03:42 AM

They should just fly ArseWithClass over to LA. He has posted stating he can tell if someone has AIDS by looking at them, so he could really help.

Young

10-15-2010 03:52 AM

Fact: gay guys have anal sex, there is no vaginal sex to have

Fact: a lot of gay guys live a pretty promiscuous lifestyle. It comes with being guy. Being attracted to other guys makes it easier to live that lifestyle.

Sure it's not a gay disease. But having sex with a non sex worker female gives you something like a 1 in 20,000 chance that she has HIV. With transmission risk of vaginal sex being about 1 in 5,000 if she was to be infected.

The latest CDC numbers show that currently in the US 1 in 5 gay/bi guys have HIV. That's a 1 in 5 chance that you'll be exposed to HIV. Factor in anal sex transmission being 1 in 200 and as high as 1 in 50 and you'll see why it's spreading so fast in their community. Let's not get into the "down low brothers" that bring it home to their girlfriend and wives.

So take your politically correct stance if you want to....but numbers are numbers.

Altwebdesign

10-15-2010 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17608967)

They should just fly ArseWithClass over to LA. He has posted stating he can tell if someone has AIDS by looking at them, so he could really help.

i was waiting for this!
Now im gonna backtrace you weesol!

jigg	10-15-2010 05:14 AM

there are mouth swab tests that give results within a 20-30 minute window
perhaps something to look into in addition to blood work

Grapesoda

10-15-2010 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jigg (Post 17609106)

there are mouth swab tests that give results within a 20-30 minute window
perhaps something to look into in addition to blood work

http://www.oraquickhivtestkit.com/

GatorB

10-15-2010 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17608955)

can be up to 6 months.

This isn't 1984. Modern tests can detect it within 2 weeks.

Grapesoda

10-15-2010 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 17608897)

Yes, I'm drunk -- you fucking faggot.

Yep, that's just my sense of humor, and let me emphasize the word HUMOR (See: Sarcasm, irony) - the shit I've said in just in far less homophobic than the comments of that fat lard ass AMA Joe; who should be beaten about the head with a Louisville Slugger, dropped in an alley, burned at the stake, and eaten by rats. I feel bad for the rats though -- that are sure to die from a massive doses of cholesterol while eating his fat bloated carcass!

I'm actually with Joe on this one. Bi performers have no business in straight porn. Had I known, I would have stopped it. We have 50+ performers on our roster. Keeping track of what they do in their off time is impossible and that is not to mention all of the directors, producers, cameramen, PA's, and everyone else that fucks these guys and girls. AIM does their job and they do it well. If AIM couldn't this situation would be much worse. Again, Kudos to AIM.

No way dood! Speaking my mind on GFY, on the phone, or to your face is exactly how I got "credibility" in this business to start with. In 14 years of webmastering (or whatever you call this stupid job) -- I've never fucked anyone over, stolen anyone's money, or intentionally hurt someone.

Ask anyone!

Now it is my mission, indeed my life goal, to drag AMA's Joe's FAT ass through the dirt, just like he did mine. There will be no relenting, there will be no apologies, there will just be Joe getting fatter and fatter, until (one day) he is consumed by his own corpulence and have a long overdue stroke.

Oh yeah, Joe: Out of every porn chick I've talked to: They all sat you creep them out. Work on it, you fat fuck!

PS: GO DIE! :321GFY:321GFY

Is my message clear enough?

please hit me with an email. emailed you and got no reply

Kenny B!

10-15-2010 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 17608945)

but a least I will still be svelte and handsome

Look at you using yid language, you'll always be my branch manager :winkwink:

Sarah_Jayne

10-15-2010 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17607022)

I've seen "reporters" quote GFY. :-)

Somebody on my Facebook with no connection to this industry quoted something I read on GFY that he has read on a 'normal' website.

TurboAngel

10-15-2010 07:26 AM

Wow this is a HUGE mess.

amacontent

10-15-2010 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboAngel (Post 17609369)

Wow this is a HUGE mess.

Not really, ...yeah I fucked up and apologize for the way I worded this thread. Everyone makes mistakes. But I dont apologize 1 bit for saying agents should be responsible for the talent they represent. One of the most important questions that should be asked is.. Have You Ever Done Gay Porn ? But thats just my opinion.

Jay-Rock

10-15-2010 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 17608339)

WOW!!! Just wow!! That is what kills us! Privates without condoms. Gay and strait!!

I shoot a lot of porn and people think im so professional because i don't hit on the girls or try to bang them. Shit like this+herpes makes it way easy to look professional.:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

This says it all and this is what I was afraid of. I have tried to not book girls with guys that have done gay but the last time the agent refused my guy, sent me a bisexual performer and told me he would do the scene for free. The gay guy failed the scene I guess he didn't like pussy so I had kill the scene. I made sure the girl knew he did gay before we started shooting and she was fine with it. I bet if you ask her now she would not be willing to work with a guy that does gay.

Jay-Rock

10-15-2010 07:41 AM

If you have a guy that does gay on an agency site it should be listed. Most agencies don't ever post that shit. If you ask me they should all have it listed under what they do. Girls have a right to know if there are working with the guy that takes it in the poop shoot plain and simple.

DWB	10-15-2010 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17608759)

Obviously there might be criminals out there

Obviously.

_Richard_

10-15-2010 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17609159)

This isn't 1984. Modern tests can detect it within 2 weeks.

it can live in remission for awhile, undetected

cherrylula

10-15-2010 08:34 AM

good luck to the weiners

LeRoy

10-15-2010 08:37 AM

Wow. All the bros getting tangled up here.

Joe... you should have worded the thread a bit different.

Now Jay's gonna getcha and I dont blame him.

adult-help

10-15-2010 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 17607010)

I feel bad for the bitches getting fucked by these crossover fags.

what, most bitches are " crossover fags" themselves - fucking everything in any way for the money....

Sebastian Sands

10-15-2010 08:53 AM

lots of pots calling kettles black in this thread.. yowza!

deanberkeley

10-15-2010 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 17608879)

Do you say the same when ole grandma comes down with the lung cancer from smoking for 50 years. Fuck the old bag, she got what she deserves. Give me a break.

Maybe when the kid jumps off of a bridge you can finally be happy. Much like the rash of suicides lately, this is nothing more than some bullying. No wonder there is so much of that in school, look how the adults are acting. :Oh crap

deanberkeley

10-15-2010 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 17608897)

or intentionally hurt someone.

Quote:

PS: GO DIE! :321GFY:321GFY

Is my message clear enough?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :error

Sarah_Jayne

10-15-2010 09:12 AM

Meanwhile everybody saying somebody deserves it or they don't feel sorry for them because they are knowingly engaging in risky behaviour will happily cash checks that result from the behaviour.

sinclair

10-15-2010 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 17609425)

Agreed. But male talent also has a right to know which female talent is escorting, and if they are doing it bareback without testing.

All facts point to this being another case of it coming from the OUTSIDE in. It does no one any good to target how IT got in as it could have come in from any number of ways. In an insular community accountability and responsibility should not be taken lightly from anyone.

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