Way to go OC Modeling : Re the current HIV mess.. - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

10-14-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson

A Rentboy link for Cameron Reed.

Just sayin'.

Safe Sex: Always safe . . . . Guess that rules him out then!!

Ethersync · 10-14-2010, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson

A Rentboy link for Cameron Reed.

Just sayin'.

So he is doing straight porn, gay porn and gay escorting? How nice...

Twitter page dead: http://twitter.com/DChambersxxx

V_RocKs · 10-14-2010, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bossku69

you realize there are gay actors who are not gay right? most people try to break into the industry doing this, all while they are married with a family.

not that I am gay or taking sides, but whos to say some m/f actor does not go around banging whores at night clubs and gets something? could of been either way...

Dude.... So you are gay? Shit. Um... Wow... I never would have imagined.

DWB · 10-14-2010, 05:14 PM

For those of you sitting in porn valley sweating over a few HIV+ performers, I'd love to have you come over to Thailand and see what a real HIV+ cluster fuck is like.

Not sure what all of you expect. Your guys are fucking guys and your girls are escorts on the side, some of them barebacking for extra money (god bless them). The fact that you've only had a few positive tests over the years is very surprising to me.

amacontent · 10-14-2010, 05:17 PM

OC Modeling didnt do anything, nor does any agency out there. With all the shit that is transmitted why isnt there a screening process to prevent gay actors or gay for pay actors from working with straight. My 2 cents. I have absolutelyy no problem with homo sexuality. Gay Marrige or anything like that. I do however say they should stay with thier own.

Noe · 10-14-2010, 05:23 PM

Not that this isn't a serious matter..but at the end of the day the percentage of HIV cases in the industry is minute compared to the number of performers shooting day after day. I would much rather take my chances fucking performers in the industry over the typical LA guy/girl off the street.

epitome · 10-14-2010, 05:27 PM

Don't blame it on the M/M sex. Blame it on straight production companies not requiring condoms like they should.

Most gay studios have gone condoms only and gay is much stronger than straight right now so that whole "nobody will buy it" argument is full of shit. Yes, there would still be bareback straight studios and they may sell more copies, but it's nothing different than what the gay industry experiences right now.

Plus, the most popular gay sites are condom only.

Time to start using condoms AND testing like most gay studios and stop putting your models at risk.

Even if you start screening for prior M/M work there is going to come a day when a 100% hetero actor turns up poz from being an inter-venous drug user.

Do the right thing and save a life. Condom only sets.

billywatson · 10-14-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

Most gay studios have gone condoms only and gay is much stronger than straight right now so that whole "nobody will buy it" argument is full of shit. Yes, there would still be bareback straight studios and they may sell more copies, but it's nothing different than what the gay industry experiences right now.

Plus, the most popular gay sites are condom only.

Can't compare the two IMO. In the gay community, HIV has been an issue for almost 30 years now. Shooting bareback in gay porn means a backlash from the gay consumer. That's a fact; in addition, I spoke with a gay producer a few years back when I was still green to all this, and he told me "there would be no gay porn if the performers had to test."

I agree 100% that we should be using condoms in straight movies, btw.

$5 submissions · 10-14-2010, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i want condoms mandatory worldwide in all productions

deanberkeley · 10-14-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson

I spoke with a gay producer a few years back when I was still green to all this, and he told me "there would be no gay porn if the performers had to test."

How irresponsible of him. Who was it?

RaiderCash_Dominik · 10-14-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson

A Rentboy link for Cameron Reed.

Just sayin'.

Thats just nuts. And this guy has a girlfriend?

marketsmart · 10-14-2010, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent

OC Modeling didnt do anything, nor does any agency out there. With all the shit that is transmitted why isnt there a screening process to prevent gay actors or gay for pay actors from working with straight. My 2 cents. I have absolutelyy no problem with homo sexuality. Gay Marrige or anything like that. I do however say they should stay with thier own.

besides our differences i am going to agree and disagree with you for whatever that's worth..

first, you made a thread saying "Way To Go OC Modeling", so by that title it would appear that you are blaming OC.

Is it really up to the talent agencies to monitor models STD's? Isn't that what AIM is supposed to do?

second, i believe that bisexuals, especially male bi's, are the main cause for the spread of HIV to heterosexual females which ultimately leads to the spread of HIV to straight males.

of course iv drug users are a major cause of spreading bloodborne diseases, but i think the case in point here is within the adult film industry..

with that being said, why on earth would a studio or female actress take the chance of shooting with a gay/bi male performer when the incubation period of HIV is still a question mark?

the other major problem i have with testing is that you only need a recent test to shoot scenes that does not factor in the fact that a performer could have had unprotected sex with an infected partner days before a shoot and therefore may be infected and still have a clean test..

to me, the system has always been flawed and i am surprised that there have not been more issues in the past..

how many events like this are going to be needed before stricter standards are put into place?

maybe if the studio owners had to have unprotected sex with performers before the shoot. there would be more concern...

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epitome · 10-14-2010, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson

Can't compare the two IMO. In the gay community, HIV has been an issue for almost 30 years now. Shooting bareback in gay porn means a backlash from the gay consumer. That's a fact; in addition, I spoke with a gay producer a few years back when I was still green to all this, and he told me "there would be no gay porn if the performers had to test."

I agree 100% that we should be using condoms in straight movies, btw.

Testing is a lot more common these days. Many studios use the same 20 minute oral swab that the free clinics use. 99.9% accuracy with that 0.1% usually being false positives ... but I'd rather have a false positive than being a false negative.

I prefer using the free clinic for the same swab and making a $35 donation which covers their cost plus a few dollars. They'd be more than happy to do it for free though.

Then you can sero match, which means HIV+ actors can still perform, but only with other HIV+ actors -- and still with condoms so that in case they have different strands they do not re-infect.

Indeed, there is a backlash against bareback videos ... overall. It still has its fans though. Most of my consumer friends like bareback videos because they're forced to use condoms in everyday life and it's a way to enjoy it without putting themselves at risk. Of course, the models are still at risk.

HIV isn't all models have to worry about. Hepatitis makes life a real bitch and sometimes kill.

All can be avoided with condoms.

epitome · 10-14-2010, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

maybe if the studio owners had to have unprotected sex with performers before the shoot. there would be more concern...

Grapesoda · 10-14-2010, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

For those of you sitting in porn valley sweating over a few HIV+ performers, I'd love to have you come over to Thailand and see what a real HIV+ cluster fuck is like.

Not sure what all of you expect. Your guys are fucking guys and your girls are escorts on the side, some of them barebacking for extra money (god bless them). The fact that you've only had a few positive tests over the years is very surprising to me.

the porn industry here in the valley is pretty 'clean' considering how it is in other places... AIM does a great job

Alprazolam · 10-14-2010, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Noe

Not that this isn't a serious matter..but at the end of the day the percentage of HIV cases in the industry is minute compared to the number of performers shooting day after day. I would much rather take my chances fucking performers in the industry over the typical LA guy/girl off the street.

Can you post a pic? I'd fuck you. When's the next tradeshow?

NemesisEnforcer · 10-14-2010, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson

A Rentboy link for Cameron Reed.

Just sayin'.

Interesting, the last patient 0 is an escort as well.

jackknoff · 10-14-2010, 06:53 PM

Everyone seems to be focused on gay sex as the initial exposure. Ever think that maybe patient zero had a heroine problem? Sharing needles is another way to be exposed to AIDS. Just floating around another possible scenario, playing devils advocate. How many of you in the business have seen some serious drug use by those in the industry? They really haven't identified who patient zero is yet, so far it's only rumors... It'll come out soon enough. I really hope no one else is infected, wishful thinking...

Spanx!
Jack

DWB · 10-14-2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

the porn industry here in the valley is pretty 'clean' considering how it is in other places... AIM does a great job

No doubt, that's what I'm saying. Though, I'm leaning more towards luck than AIM, because AIM only catches them once they have HIV. My surprise comes from how little HIV cases there have been.

Grapesoda · 10-14-2010, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

No doubt, that's what I'm saying. Though, I'm leaning more towards luck than AIM, because AIM only catches them once they have HIV. My surprise comes from how little HIV cases there have been.

outside of high risk groups HIV isn't really that common. it's the 'special interest lobbies' that make HIV seem like a common occurrence.

http://www.avert.org/usa-race-age.htm

statistics suggest that most HIV cases in the US are homosexual and or black.

'The overall 5-year relative lung cancer survival rate for 1995-2002 was 15 percent.'

and like someone here in this thread did suggest I would be happy to have HIV instead of lung cancer.

MaDalton · 10-14-2010, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

HIV isn't all models have to worry about. Hepatitis makes life a real bitch and sometimes kill.

All can be avoided with condoms.

as i understand AIM does not test for Hepatitis, which i never understood. just as life threatening but much easier to spread.

but the condom thing only works if at least 80% of the big and medium size companies are in

vittle · 10-14-2010, 07:32 PM

who is he dating?

Young · 10-14-2010, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by vittle

who is he dating?

Compare the current version of OC modelings female talent page with Googles cached version. It's not hard to tell. And judging by the status of her booking availability she was brand new to OC.

billywatson · 10-14-2010, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by deanberkeley

How irresponsible of him. Who was it?

None of your beezness, mister.

vittle · 10-14-2010, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Young

Compare the current version of OC modelings female talent page with Googles cached version. It's not hard to tell. And judging by the status of her booking availability she was brand new to OC.

Looks like 4 girls have been removed since the google cache. 3 of them are very new to the biz

will76 · 10-14-2010, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent

Cameron Reid, male actor repped by OC Modeling , who apparently has a nice supply of gay films under his belt , is the HIV ground zero patient..

http://********.com/read.php?ID=44554

Maybe some backround checks on these male models should be done. Will we ever learn. There is Seth Dickens on the site also whos been on gay box covers. Lets make it easy for the people who wanna shut us down in LA shall we. Geez.

Message to male actors out there.

IF YOU WANNA STICK YOUR COCK IN THE ASS OF SOMEONE WHO WAS BORN A MAN>> STAY OUT OF OUR PART OF THE INDUSTRY !!!!!!!

Can I ask you a question, as I am not a content producer.

HIV/AIDS.... they get tested every week, before every shoot? How do they currently do it or are suppose to do it. Next question, how long do you have to have AID/HIV before it will show up on a test? If the person contracted it a couple days before would it show up on a test?

JustDaveXxx · 10-14-2010, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson

A Rentboy link for Cameron Reed.

Just sayin'.

WOW!!! Just wow!! That is what kills us! Privates without condoms. Gay and strait!!

I shoot a lot of porn and people think im so professional because i don't hit on the girls or try to bang them. Shit like this+herpes makes it way easy to look professional.

xxxjay · 10-14-2010, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

first, you made a thread saying "Way To Go OC Modeling", so by that title it would appear that you are blaming OC.

Is it really up to the talent agencies to monitor models STD's? Isn't that what AIM is supposed to do?
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Because the law won’t let us. When AIM named the HIV positive person and the quarentine list in 2004 they got sued because they were actually giving out medical information which you are not allowed to do. They paid a lot in that lawsuit.

Source:
http://www.lukeisback.com/?p=14204

To AMA Joe: And if that doesn't work I'm going to beat you fat disgusting ass. The only way you can get pussy is basically paying for a private and calling in a "POV"? Weren't you just at my house on my birthday on 9/11/2010 enjoying my carne asada, beer, women, and liquor? Couldn't you have expressed your opinions to me in private without going to GFY, and (I might add) breaking the law?

PS: Every agency has male talent that are "switch hitters" and have done gay porn to break into the business. Not just us. Everyone!! Even the legendary male pornstars have a few gay scenes under their belt.

On a side note: I happen to agree with you on the whole gay men not being in straight porn, however: AIM, no agency on Earth, or any other group that I know of can keep track of what a performer is doing in their private lives 24/7.

Hence, the title of this thread I find especially insulting and enraging. AIM acted in a 100% professional manner and notified 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation performers within 24 hours. Kudos to them on that.

In A Nutshell: Expect to be hearing from our lawyers. You will be sued. You will lose. You will pay us money. If that doesn't work, see me out in public, I've survived a year in prison in Atlanta without being killed, I am not a pushover. I'm not afraid to slap you like the bitch you are.

AMA Joe

NaughtyRob · 10-14-2010, 08:00 PM

Industry standard is once per month. A test is good for 30 days. Some female performers have been known to require that the male talent get a fresh test and don't work with anyone else until working with her. Tough thing to do and expensive but to fuck Sasha Grey I'd do that.

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Originally Posted by will76

Can I ask you a question, as I am not a content producer.

HIV/AIDS.... they get tested every week, before every shoot? How do they currently do it or are suppose to do it. Next question, how long do you have to have AID/HIV before it will show up on a test? If the person contracted it a couple days before would it show up on a test?

deanberkeley · 10-14-2010, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson

None of your beezness, mister.

Anyone that puts models at risk in that manner should be outed.

will76 · 10-14-2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyRob

Industry standard is once per month. A test is good for 30 days. Some female performers have been known to require that the male talent get a fresh test and don't work with anyone else until working with her. Tough thing to do and expensive but to fuck Sasha Grey I'd do that.

When you say the test is good for 30 days are you just restating that they only have to do it once a month? Or does that mean that the test wont detect if you contracted HIV or AIDS with in the last 30 days.

I guess I could google this, but curious to find out how long it has to be in the body with you being contagious before a test could even detect it.

I could never be a porn star with out protection for the simple fact I wouldn't trust people to just "not work with or sleep with anyone else" since the last time they were tested. If any one of those people recently fucked around (work or pleasure) and got aids I would be playing russian roulette. I don't trust many people, muchless people I don't know with my life.

will76 · 10-14-2010, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Source:
http://www.lukeisback.com/?p=14204

To AMA Joe: And if that doesn't work I'm going to beat you fat disgusting ass. The only way you can get pussy is basically paying for a private and calling in a "POV"? Weren't you just at my house on my birthday on 9/11/2010 enjoying my carne asada, beer, women, and liquor? Couldn't you have expressed your opinions to me in private without going to GFY, and (I might add) breaking the law?

PS: Every agency has male talent that are "switch hitters" and have done gay porn to break into the business. Not just us. Everyone!! Even the legendary male pornstars have a few gay scenes under their belt.

On a side note: I happen to agree with you on the whole gay men not being in straight porn, however: AIM, no agency on Earth, or any other group that I know of can keep track of what a performer is doing in their private lives 24/7.

Hence, the title of this thread I find especially insulting and enraging. AIM acted in a 100% professional manner and notified 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation performers within 24 hours. Kudos to them on that.

In A Nutshell: Expect to be hearing from our lawyers. You will be sued. You will lose. You will pay us money. If that doesn't work, see me out in public, I've survived a year in prison in Atlanta without being killed, I am not a pushover. I'm not afraid to slap you like the bitch you are.

AMA Joe

that just made this thread more interesting...

Noe · 10-14-2010, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alprazolam

Can you post a pic? I'd fuck you. When's the next tradeshow?

Thank you sweetheart but that was meant to be hypothetical. I sell content, therefore I'm not content. But thank you anyways! So nice to be wanted.

DWB · 10-14-2010, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

as i understand AIM does not test for Hepatitis, which i never understood. just as life threatening but much easier to spread.

but the condom thing only works if at least 80% of the big and medium size companies are in

Hepatitis can KILL your ass and there is no vaccination against Hep C.

Why don't they test for it? Who fucking knows. Probably because in reality, no one really gives a shit about the performers. There is no excuse otherwise. They don't test for herpes and HPV because everyone in the industry already has it.

DaddyHalbucks · 10-14-2010, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

The chance of a male getting HIV through sex with another male is MUCH higher than getting it through sex with a female. This is just a fact.

Correct. HIV is a gay/ IV drug addict disease, at least in the USA. In Africa, it is a different story.

Yes, that is a FACT.

munki · 10-14-2010, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

WOW!!! Just wow!! That is what kills us! Privates without condoms. Gay and strait!!

I shoot a lot of porn and people think im so professional because i don't hit on the girls or try to bang them. Shit like this+herpes makes it way easy to look professional.

AmeliaG · 10-14-2010, 08:51 PM

I would point out how much of this industry is based on the sexual performances of women who are willing (and preferably eager) to have sex with both men and women. I would point out that having unsafe sex with an infected person (combined with bad luck) is what you get HIV from, not man-on-man action.

But I don't think it will do any good because chicken littles are just listening to the panicked voices in their own heads anyway.

deanberkeley · 10-14-2010, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Correct. HIV is a gay/ IV drug addict disease, at least in the USA. In Africa, it is a different story.

Yes, that is a FACT.

Congrats on being the first person to ever make my ignore list on any forum.

Yes, that is a FACT.

Socks · 10-14-2010, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Hepatitis can KILL your ass and there is no vaccination against Hep C.

Why don't they test for it? Who fucking knows. Probably because in reality, no one really gives a shit about the performers. There is no excuse otherwise. They don't test for herpes and HPV because everyone in the industry already has it.

How does one protect themselves against Hepatitis? I'm always scared of that TV commercial that says you can get it from one bad icecube in a drink.. I mean.. What the fuck am I supposed to do, stop drinking?

FlexxAeon · 10-14-2010, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by deanberkeley

Congrats on being the first person to ever make my ignore list on any forum.

Yes, that is a FACT.

i think you missed the sarcasm

Socks · 10-14-2010, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FlexxAeon

i think you missed the sarcasm

I think you missed the rest of Daddy's psychology. I doubt he was joking.

munki · 10-14-2010, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

I would point out how much of this industry is based on the sexual performances of women who are willing (and preferably eager) to have sex with both men and women. I would point out that having unsafe sex with an infected person (combined with bad luck) is what you get HIV from, not man-on-man action.

But I don't think it will do any good because chicken littles are just listening to the panicked voices in their own heads anyway.

When shit hits the fan it's more convenient to point fingers then retain basic humanity.

deanberkeley · 10-14-2010, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

I think you missed the rest of Daddy's psychology. I doubt he was joking.

My point exactly. As a person who has been around several close friends when they found out they were HIV+ and how just the stigma of the disease changes their lives even when they have no symptoms. In fact, none have developed AIDS. The depression, the suicidal tendencies, it is not a pretty sight and it changes their lives forever. It is not something you want to see a friend, or for that matter another human being, have to go through.

Already while I am reading this thread I cringe at the fact that if it is this guy who tested positive, he is being publicly outed and ridiculed in this manner. In what is already probably one of the most trying and difficult times of his life, he now is dealing with it in a very public way that must be absolutely brutal for him to endure.

I feel sorry for him, and wish more people would treat this situation with a little more respect.

billywatson · 10-14-2010, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

To AMA Joe: And if that doesn't work I'm going to beat you fat disgusting ass. The only way you can get pussy is basically paying for a private and calling in a "POV"? Weren't you just at my house on my birthday on 9/11/2010 enjoying my carne asada, beer, women, and liquor? Couldn't you have expressed your opinions to me in private without going to GFY, and (I might add) breaking the law?

Joe followed up his statement by saying "OC Modeling didnt do anything, nor does any agency out there."

And Jay -- no offense, bro, but you're a POV dude...and not that much of a lady killer, either.

DWB · 10-14-2010, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

How does one protect themselves against Hepatitis? I'm always scared of that TV commercial that says you can get it from one bad icecube in a drink.. I mean.. What the fuck am I supposed to do, stop drinking?

I think you're talking about Hep A (if it's food/water related). Hep B and Hep C can be transmitted sexually. There are vaccinations for A & B, but not C.

FlexxAeon · 10-14-2010, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

I think you missed the rest of Daddy's psychology. I doubt he was joking.

that's too bad

RaiderCash_Dominik · 10-14-2010, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Source:
http://www.lukeisback.com/?p=14204

To AMA Joe: And if that doesn't work I'm going to beat you fat disgusting ass. The only way you can get pussy is basically paying for a private and calling in a "POV"? Weren't you just at my house on my birthday on 9/11/2010 enjoying my carne asada, beer, women, and liquor? Couldn't you have expressed your opinions to me in private without going to GFY, and (I might add) breaking the law?

PS: Every agency has male talent that are "switch hitters" and have done gay porn to break into the business. Not just us. Everyone!! Even the legendary male pornstars have a few gay scenes under their belt.

On a side note: I happen to agree with you on the whole gay men not being in straight porn, however: AIM, no agency on Earth, or any other group that I know of can keep track of what a performer is doing in their private lives 24/7.

Hence, the title of this thread I find especially insulting and enraging. AIM acted in a 100% professional manner and notified 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation performers within 24 hours. Kudos to them on that.

In A Nutshell: Expect to be hearing from our lawyers. You will be sued. You will lose. You will pay us money. If that doesn't work, see me out in public, I've survived a year in prison in Atlanta without being killed, I am not a pushover. I'm not afraid to slap you like the bitch you are.

AMA Joe

This is going to be good.

stocktrader23 · 10-14-2010, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

I would point out how much of this industry is based on the sexual performances of women who are willing (and preferably eager) to have sex with both men and women. I would point out that having unsafe sex with an infected person (combined with bad luck) is what you get HIV from, not man-on-man action.

But I don't think it will do any good because chicken littles are just listening to the panicked voices in their own heads anyway.

Seriously, don't be a fucking idiot. This is the dumbest shit I've read on GFY in a long ass time.

stocktrader23 · 10-14-2010, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by deanberkeley

My point exactly. As a person who has been around several close friends when they found out they were HIV+ and how just the stigma of the disease changes their lives even when they have no symptoms. In fact, none have developed AIDS. The depression, the suicidal tendencies, it is not a pretty sight and it changes their lives forever. It is not something you want to see a friend, or for that matter another human being, have to go through.

Already while I am reading this thread I cringe at the fact that if it is this guy who tested positive, he is being publicly outed and ridiculed in this manner. In what is already probably one of the most trying and difficult times of his life, he now is dealing with it in a very public way that must be absolutely brutal for him to endure.

I feel sorry for him, and wish more people would treat this situation with a little more respect.

Regardless of how much your friends have suffered it does nothing to change FACTS. The facts are that gay sex is a lot less safe than straight sex.

xxxjay · 10-14-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson

And Jay -- no offense, bro, but you're a POV dude...and not that much of a lady killer, either.

POV dude, huh? Show me one POV scene I've done.

BTW: I am 100X better looking than everyone that reads GFY.

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amacontent STANLEY CUP CHAMPION ! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,909	OC Modeling didnt do anything, nor does any agency out there. With all the shit that is transmitted why isnt there a screening process to prevent gay actors or gay for pay actors from working with straight. My 2 cents. I have absolutelyy no problem with homo sexuality. Gay Marrige or anything like that. I do however say they should stay with thier own. __________________ Joe Loughlin [email protected] TEAM- joeloughlin. Telegram - AMA_JOE https://www.amaproduction.com

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Noe Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,082	Not that this isn't a serious matter..but at the end of the day the percentage of HIV cases in the industry is minute compared to the number of performers shooting day after day. I would much rather take my chances fucking performers in the industry over the typical LA guy/girl off the street. __________________ www.xxxcontentdirect.com www.extremefeeds.com ICQ: 169980934 [email protected]

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AmeliaG Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,586	I would point out how much of this industry is based on the sexual performances of women who are willing (and preferably eager) to have sex with both men and women. I would point out that having unsafe sex with an infected person (combined with bad luck) is what you get HIV from, not man-on-man action. But I don't think it will do any good because chicken littles are just listening to the panicked voices in their own heads anyway. __________________ GFY Hall of Famer AltStar Hall of Famer Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com Babe photography portfolio

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DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	For those of you sitting in porn valley sweating over a few HIV+ performers, I'd love to have you come over to Thailand and see what a real HIV+ cluster fuck is like. Not sure what all of you expect. Your guys are fucking guys and your girls are escorts on the side, some of them barebacking for extra money (god bless them). The fact that you've only had a few positive tests over the years is very surprising to me.

10-14-2010, 05:27 PM	#57
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	Don't blame it on the M/M sex. Blame it on straight production companies not requiring condoms like they should. Most gay studios have gone condoms only and gay is much stronger than straight right now so that whole "nobody will buy it" argument is full of shit. Yes, there would still be bareback straight studios and they may sell more copies, but it's nothing different than what the gay industry experiences right now. Plus, the most popular gay sites are condom only. Time to start using condoms AND testing like most gay studios and stop putting your models at risk. Even if you start screening for prior M/M work there is going to come a day when a 100% hetero actor turns up poz from being an inter-venous drug user. Do the right thing and save a life. Condom only sets.

10-14-2010, 06:53 PM	#68
jackknoff Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 545	Everyone seems to be focused on gay sex as the initial exposure. Ever think that maybe patient zero had a heroine problem? Sharing needles is another way to be exposed to AIDS. Just floating around another possible scenario, playing devils advocate. How many of you in the business have seen some serious drug use by those in the industry? They really haven't identified who patient zero is yet, so far it's only rumors... It'll come out soon enough. I really hope no one else is infected, wishful thinking... Spanx! Jack