jjmerago

You lot cry baby cunts are fucking stupid it is too no surprise this industry is in the decline its in with fucktards like you lot at the helm.

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kane

Yep, they teach you to put the car in between you and them. I guess he could have sped up and ran the guy over, but then people would have been pissed about that.

This is one of those calls you show up at knowing that there is no good outcome and you try to choose the best of the shitty options you have available to you.

Emil

The cop did the right thing. That kid was a fucking idiot and deserved to die.

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kane

You don't think that the police were far more brutal 40 or 50 years ago than they are today? Back then everyone on the planet didn't have a phone with video recorder and there wasn't an internet where overnight your actions could become worldwide news. I hear stories from some cops I know that have been on the job a long time that even 20's years ago it was common place to beat the shit out of the people they arrested then just tell anyone who asked that they resisted.

These days the level of sensitivity training cops gets is through the roof compared to then. Most departments now have all kinds of classes on how to "compassionately" deal with the public in just about any situation.

I think 40 years ago the cop may be just plowed the kid over with his car then slapped the shit out of anyone who might have questioned his actions.

Buzz

If you're attacking police car while tripping your ass out high on drugs you should be aware of cops posessing guns and ready to use it. So don't be surprised when your brain gets splashed all over the police car hood.

The cop was in very tough situation when he's to make right choice in seconds. Not many of you can drag a gun and shoot a man, even when protecting themselves. I'm not sure if the cop had to shoot to kill (or whether he really did it), but the bat-guy is definitely worth Darwin award.

Dirty Dane

It was reported he smashed windows.

Point is, he didn't shoot to protect others, but to protect himself. He could drive forward and no one had to be killed.

I don't think the officer should be charged unless he killed intentionally. He was first at the scene and obviously not trained good enough to handle that situation. He needs better training or they have to let him go. Kill should always be the last resort for skilled officers.

kane

Well, I personally won't make that kind of call without knowing exactly what went down. We see the video, but once the guy moves towards the driver's side of the car you hear breaking class, but you don't know what happened. We don't know what the guy did. Was he just standing there? Did he charge the cop? Was he breaking the windows out of the driver's side door of the cop car trying to get at the cop? We don't know. I'll restrain from assuming he was under-trained and could have had better options without knowing that stuff.

Here is the problem with most police. Almost all police are vastly under-trained. They go through the academy and then are lucky if they get once a year follow-ups. The cops in the town I live in get once a year hand to hand tactics, 2-3 times per year where they qualify with their guns and 1-2 times per year doing what the call con-sim. This is where they have real guns that shoot paint bullets and you do live shoot/non-shoot scenarios with them. Most of the scenarios they do are taken from real life instances where officers have died. The idea is that they arrive on scene with only a little information from dispatch and then end up in a situation where they have to decide if and when to shoot. They follow the scenario out until the bad guys are dead or the situation is defused. That amount of training is about twice what the the average cop in my state gets. There are guys that work for some of the bigger cities who have never had con-sim training and only do the gun once per year and hand to hand once per year.

That is it. That is all the training. Occasionally they get a class here and there, but those are normally for specialized things like DUI etc.

Here is the kicker. Con-sim used to be mandatory in all the reserve academies. They would get at least 3 days of this before being allowed to become a reserve cop. That just got cut so all the new reserves from here on will not get that training.

It's not the cops fault. It is the politicians who keep cutting budgets and wasting money everywhere but where it is needed. In the end all the training in the world can't prepare you fully for the real thing so with most of these guys you have no idea exactly how they will react until they are in the situation. My buddy (who is a cop in my town) tells me that of the 12 officers they have there are only 4 of 5 of them that he really feels safe backing him up. It's pretty sad, but that is how it works.

charlie g

It's pretty clear the cop tried to avoid the situation by backing up. The kid was trying to hit the cop with the bat and got shot when he busted the drivers window. Next swing hits the cop. Totally justified use of deadly force.

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Go to a range. Set up a dummy with legs. walk about 5 to 10 feet away mark a spot.. run in a circle for 5 min as fast as you can stop on the spot. draw and shoot the dummy in the legs.


with your running you would have less than 1/3 the amount of adrenaline in your system that the cop had when he shot.

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JA$ON

Sad thig is, with the divorce and all, I doubt they could afford him

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alessergod

Damn, idiot fucks up and gets his ass shot and it turns into the government's fault. Around these parts the cops are the ones getting all the funds for new cars, weapons, tasers, and the list goes on and on.

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blackmonsters

What the fuck are you talking about?

When did the NAACP get involved in this case?

LeRoy

I guess you havent seen what a bat can do to a head. Can easily kill someone.

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But so can a unarmed 250 pound martial artist.

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FlexxAeon

roundhouse kicking and one-inch punching police car windows will probably get someone shot as well

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kane

My point was that people are saying the cop was under-trained. If that is the case, it isn't the cops fault he is under-trained it is the government's fault for cutting budgets or setting up training guidelines that don't allow for him to get the training he would need. You might be shocked to find out just how under-trained the average police department is.