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Old 10-07-2010, 02:07 PM   #51
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Most likely that they are only nominee directors...they do that a lot to form off shore companies. But it is obvious that his, Elias' organization was used to receive and disperse wallet funds.
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Also, some info here http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2005067611 looks like a patent.
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So we are 99% sure Elias' bank is where the funds were....Elias swears up and down they aren't there. Obviously that could be a lie, but he's been very up front about not having them, so let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

That can only really mean 1 of 2 things...

1) Mallick pulled them out and put them in his movie company

2) Mallick pulled them out and put them in a different bank......which seems pointless...can't understand why he'd use United Trust and then move it all right away for any legitimate reason.
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:19 PM   #54
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International Bank N.V.
Address: Kaya R (Hensey) J Beaujon z/n
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http://www.yellowpages-curacao.com/r...tomerID=116610
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INFO back from 2003:

http://therxforum.com/archive/index.php/t-212723.html

Gregory Elias is mentioned everywhere as "managing director" or "Administrative Contact". It's possible that he's just a dummy, a person required to make the incorporation and does not really know much about epassporte matters.
Bingo!

he may be just a guy,along with Joonchi, that sets up shell corps.

Plenty of offshoring done in Curacaou- maybe the companies need some locals to "serve" as directors to make it "legit".

tons of dummy corps have been set up in the $$$ processing game- doesnt necessarily mean those guys are running things like a real bank.

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Old 10-07-2010, 02:22 PM   #56
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I say Elias is full of crap and this is why:
http://www.cifa-curacao.com/Download...FAPLATFORM.PDF
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Bingo!

he may be just a guy,along with Joonchi, that sets up shell corps.

Plenty of offshoring done in Curacaou- maybe the companies need some locals to "serve" as directors to make it "legit".

tons of dummy corps have been set up in the $$$ processing game- doesnt necessarily mean those guys are running things like a real bank.


The issue is that they are receiving and managing the money....
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:37 PM   #58
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Ok I emailed <[email protected]> and this is what I got back:

“This office does not respond to cardholder requests. This office has no responsibility for cardholder requests. This office will not forward requests or communications, nor reply to communications as we have no data. Please email [email protected] This is the only point of communication for ePassporte.”

Wrapped in quotation marks? Fucking auto-response, probably triggered by the use of the word 'ePassporte' in my email.
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Oh, and 2 of the emails posted in this thread bounced. Lemme grab those as well:

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

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Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

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hm... gerards email worked for me.
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:48 PM   #61
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try sending via web forms

http://www.united-itrust.com/en/international_board/
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Old 10-07-2010, 03:20 PM   #62
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United International Bank, NV

Has anyone contacted their regulatory authority about their role in this fiasco?

I'm sure they have some sort of arbitration procedure?

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Old 10-07-2010, 03:35 PM   #63
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Central Bank of the Netherlands Antilles
http://www.centralbank.an/contact
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or European Central Bank

http://www.ecb.int/home/html/index.en.html

i'm not sure how to approach these guys tho. but

i'm sure they would love to strip United International Bank license. btw the bank is 1 year old and already covered in shit.
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Old 10-07-2010, 03:42 PM   #65
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Well according to this it's the Central Bank of the Netherlands Antilles

http://www.cifa-curacao.com/Download...FAPLATFORM.PDF
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Old 10-07-2010, 04:11 PM   #67
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Gregory Elias about epassporte:

"The beagleboys took the money"

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Old 10-08-2010, 05:23 AM   #69
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as you can see now, emails to mr. Elias ARE WORKING!

keep sending emails to him!!!
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We are opening a wire fraud investigation regarding funds send to United International.
what is that? can you suggest how to do that?
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Old 10-09-2010, 08:31 AM   #72
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Here is a post of what people "might" have lost!
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shit, i'm getting this now

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

[email protected]

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 5.7.1 Message rejected as spam by Content Filtering. (state 18).
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send him a few emails please! to confirm.
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works fine:
Quote:
Checking server mail.united-itrust.com...
Opening up socket to mail.united-itrust.com... Success!
mail.united-itrust.com replied: 220 mail.united-itrust.com Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service ready at Sat, 9 Oct 2010 15:07:29 -0400

HELO evilstone.com
250 mail.united-itrust.com Hello [91.197.129.220]
(184.95 ms)
MAIL FROM: <[email protected]>
250 2.1.0 Sender OK
(181.75 ms)
RCPT TO: <[email protected]>
250 2.1.5 Recipient OK
(771.86 ms)
QUIT
221 2.0.0 Service closing transmission channel
(182.37 ms)
Probably blocking your domain.
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shit, well then send him an email... ask him to ask chris to process those fuckin ACHs!!!!
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To get some ideas what Mr. Elias does... here's an interesting article from a Dutch newspaper (translated via Google, but you'll probably get the point)

Patrick Kluivert is the sign of the sports brand Adidas during Euro 2000. This produces the peak of the Dutch team a lot of money and we do not stop ....

The name refers to something big, something powerful, to the forests in the hilly northwest of Curacao. To a place where he sheltered by tall trees, has a private park, with a matching playgrounds. Grandpa Kluivert will soon show his grandchildren how he one summer day in 2000 the ball into goal inslingerde.

Mighty Forest Corporation N.V.

Patrick Kluivert, estate manager of The Mighty Forest.

In reality there is nothing green or consents to the company. It is a company called image rights-of Patrick Kluivert. A mailbox company, Kaya Richard J. Beaujon z / n Curaçao, registered under number 75357 in the Trade of Curaçao. Founded on July 23, 1996, when Kluivert still in the forefront of Ajax.

Many Dutch top players like Kluivert, representing one million businesses and have their own NV in the Netherlands Antilles. (Or in the Channel Islands, as coach Frank Rijkaard could be seen from an examination of weekly FEM / DeWeek)

These SA's conclusion million contracts with sponsors and clubs with the aim of advertising revenues (cash in popularity ') in the Netherlands Antilles to accommodate. That amount is invested and often take the paid soccer career. In the Antilles is a very low tax rate.

The players think the tax escape yourself. Top footballers are accompanied by their own tax, FIFA football agent, lawyer or accountant. Just as they surround the medical field with their own physiotherapist or specialist.

The name Mighty Forest Corporation Kluivert has probably not have chosen - in Curacao, which was still somewhere on a shelf, as they say. The deed shows that Kluivert is not actually used in the creation of the company was involved.

Jacqueline Francisca Bruying as representative of Milexan Trust Company Ltd. - and act on behalf of the company Intertrust to act - the case settled in Curacao.

Intertrust, which at the same address is located in Curacao, as sole director of Mighty Forest Corporation stated. 'Chairman' this' trust office, Gregory E. Elias, known as president of the Association of Offshore Interests (PDB). This 47-year-old influential and - allegedly - Antillean controversial plays a major role in the 'West Indies Route.

Three years ago, Elias became involved in the stock fraud case. Justice pulled out of his office a record of the company's Securities Committee - at the same address as the Mighty Forest Corporation is based. One of the main suspects in the stock fraud, Dirk G., Elias was just as attached to ESC. Dirk G. company would have used to launder dirty money.

Also made for Elias Peter Graf, father of former tennis star Steffi, for its advertising revenue through a tax structure and the Netherlands Antilles. The German tax authorities approved the state of affairs due to evasion and Graf was sentenced to lengthy prison terms.

The name of Patrick Kluivert is in no way be found in the papers of the Mighty Forest Corporation. That's the idea. If it appears that the actual management of the company in the Netherlands would be, a problem arises with the Dutch tax authorities, says R. Copper, spokesman for the Inland Revenue. The Administration says the tax structures in Professional Football "closely monitor".

Copper: "The law does not say that it is not. But, in all cases a construction to avoid taxation. Where there is a construction, the Administration action. Often this approach with the revenue passed on to the players. This is about income on which tax is actually paid. "

The Tax and fiscal affairs for top football players already held against the light. Then it came to 65 footballers whose image rights through the football union VVCS with a company in Willemstad were housed.

Football players transfer their rights to a company. Through a Dutch company goes to a company in a tax haven, which governs the matter a straw man. Presumably Kluivert has a contract stating that he licensed his image rights for some time Mighty Forest Corporation provided. All companies and sponsors that use the portrait or the name of Kluivert pay compensation to the company in Curacao.

This construction was developed by Paul Foort, which is affiliated with KPMG tax Meijburg. Will not he explain himself about his particular state of affairs in professional football. Foort works for Kluivert agent Sigi Lens And it is financial adviser to the players of the Dutch national team. In the past, he was part of an "independent commission" that the route of the West Indies players union VVCS investigated and found that it was lawful for top players.

Foort was also involved in the first large, notorious case of Mighty Forest Corporation (read: Patrick Kluivert). On January 30, 1997 signed the Amsterdam football - and his company - a contract with Adidas International BV. This to the dismay of rival Nike Kluivert that since the B-juniors Ajax had under contract.

On February 7, eight days after the contract was signed with Adidas, Nike Lens had known that Kluivert was not interested in a new contract. Lens said that Nike had not agile enough, and he denied that in January 1997 a contract was signed. The provision in the contract to Nike in "good faith" to negotiate with each other, did not appear to have worked.

The sponsorship contract Mighty Forest Corporation led to many problems with the VVCS. Sigi Lens and Peter Gerard, both working for the VVCS, were in negotiations with a large amount Adidas have stipulated for himself. Lens and Gerard were fired and numerous investigations and lawsuits followed. Adidas, Lens and Gerard said nothing of bribes to know.

Two years later, the Times quoted from a letter from the "Tax Big Companies." It was then that one hundred thousand U.S. dollars to eight Adidas ProAthlete BV had made shoes for a contract of Kluivert. ProAthlete Ltd is owned by Sigi Lens. Lens denied again that he had received money from Adidas.

After the disastrous period for AC Milan (there was also the accusation that Kluivert was involved in a rape case) Kluivert signed in August 1999 a four year contract with Barcelona, like Orange sponsored by Nike. The Spanish club paid 28 million for Kluivert to AC Milan.

Mighty Forest Corporation was involved in the deal and signed an agreement on the image rights, Barcelona Kluivert has the right image for coffee cups and shirts to put his name to sell.

During the European Championships, Mighty Forest Corporation has entered into an agreement with Team Holland, the commercial arm of the Dutch team which Foort consultant.

Kluivert has been seen in an ad for a detergent, the chip packaging, the cola bottle, on coins, keychains, dolls, soccer, stickers rubber, sugar and much more.

Should Orange European champion, then get Kluivert (and his colleagues of the Dutch team) a premium of 425,000 guilders. Not clear what the players with Team Holland to commercial jobs deserve. Kluivert himself also hold a special bonus from his sponsor Adidas as he is top scorer of the upcoming tournament or European Championship with the Dutch team wins the title.

All these financial benefits go to Mighty Forest Corporation, the money accumulates. Kluivert, the entire amount after his career winnings without paying too much tax. There it is all about the stars.
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very nice... can you give a direct link?
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Here's the link to the article (in Dutch): http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2686/...Kluivert.dhtml
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especially this part is interesting where it states Elias has been involved in a stock fraud case where he made a fiscal construction for this company to launder dirty money.

"Intertrust, which at the same address is located in Curacao, as sole director of Mighty Forest Corporation stated. 'Chairman' this' trust office, Gregory E. Elias, known as president of the Association of Offshore Interests (PDB). This 47-year-old influential and - allegedly - Antillean controversial plays a major role in the 'West Indies Route.

Three years ago, Elias became involved in the stock fraud case. Justice pulled out of his office a record of the company's Securities Committee - at the same address as the Mighty Forest Corporation is based. One of the main suspects in the stock fraud, Dirk G., Elias was just as attached to ESC. Dirk G. company would have used to launder dirty money.

Also made for Elias Peter Graf, father of former tennis star Steffi, for its advertising revenue through a tax structure and the Netherlands Antilles. The German tax authorities approved the state of affairs due to evasion and Graf was sentenced to lengthy prison terms."
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WoW...extremely interesting.
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