Why is it ok for the yanks to have nukes? - GoFuckYourself.com

Aussie Rebel · 01-10-2003, 05:46 PM

I'm not asking this question to piss with anyone, I just dont understand why the yanks can have nukes and other countries cant without bush wanting to go to war with them. I dont know much about this nuke thing at all thats why I am asking.

Fletch XXX · 01-10-2003, 05:48 PM

manifest destiny.

its just reaching around the globe again and back.

goBigtime · 01-10-2003, 05:53 PM

I think its like "he who has the most firepower makes the rules" or something like that.

01-10-2003, 05:54 PM

There are countries that have them now, and they want to keep any more countries from acquiring them.

It has to do with the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty that was signed in 1970. Basically they don't want this power to spread to any more countries then it already has, because of the potential for disaster.

The ones that have the power can keep it, but no one else can get it, basically.

UncleJimmy · 01-10-2003, 05:54 PM

cuz us yanks are wankers ;)

who knows man, I think someone had a meeting and flipped a coin one day... as it's always been on this planet, a game of who can have the power, and who can try to keep others from getting it....

we didn't like it when Indian and Pakistan went nuc a few years back, and I'm sure we won't like it when the next lil country goes nuc capable on us...

I think everytime a country does it, it just increases the chances that someone's gonna be a freak and actually use one...

NoCarrier · 01-10-2003, 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by evildick
There are countries that have them now, and they want to keep any more countries from acquiring them.

It has to do with the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty that was signed in 1970. Basically they don't want this power to spread to any more countries then it already has, because of the potential for disaster.

The ones that have the power can keep it, but no one else can get it, basically.

It was signed in 1968, but you were close

01-10-2003, 05:55 PM

Actually the ones that have the weapons before the treaty was signed are also suppose to work on disarming, which has been done to some respect.

Sly_RJ · 01-10-2003, 05:56 PM

Treaties and prior precedent.

01-10-2003, 05:56 PM

Sorry, signed on 1968 and put into effect in 1970. My history teacher was a drunk so I never learned much.

Just Mike · 01-10-2003, 05:56 PM

We had 'em first. We used 'em first.

Ergo...we know the devestating power and outcome of these weapons. SInce we are generally recognized as the most powerful and "civilized" country in the world we take it upon oirselves to make sure an irresponsible country will not get hold of these kinds of weapons.

In otherwords...if some rogue nation had ICBM'S too then the playingfield would be level and that's not good!

Aussie Rebel · 01-10-2003, 06:01 PM

Wouldn't it be a good thing if ALL countries that have them got rid of them? I wonder if sadam really does have some hidden.

Sly_RJ · 01-10-2003, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by Aussie Rebel
Wouldn't it be a good thing if ALL countries that have them got rid of them? I wonder if sadam really does have some hidden.

Good? Sure.

Realistic? No.

Theo · 01-10-2003, 06:02 PM

During the fall of USSR more than few countries probably gained access to nuclear weapons. Skopjia was the blackmarket of nuclear products in balcans. Don't fool yourself,the nuclear knowledge/technology has been around for several decades...it's not the magic from the sky anymore and might be in plenty of evil hands. BOOM!

Scootermuze · 01-10-2003, 06:02 PM

Pretty much the same deal as using the sob story of starving children in these poor countries and sending billions to help.. when we in the U.S. also have starving children and they don't seem to give a rat's ass about it.

We can have kids going to bed hungry in the U.S. but it's not right to have it in other countries...

Mr Pheer · 01-10-2003, 06:06 PM

Why wouldnt it be ok for us to have nukes? We invented nukes.

ColKurtz · 01-10-2003, 06:09 PM

The usa is in a unique position. Even though we are bullies etc, we have done an awful lot helping other countries in war, thru aide, etc. Basically the usa is a peacful nation of law. If we werent, then canada and south america would have been taken over years ago.

Spunky · 01-10-2003, 06:11 PM

To protect us Canadians of course ...

Aussie Rebel · 01-10-2003, 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by ColKurtz
The usa is in a unique position. Even though we are bullies etc, we have done an awful lot helping other countries in war, thru aide, etc. Basically the usa is a peacful nation of law. If we werent, then canada and south america would have been taken over years ago.

I thought the french took over canada

ThunderBalls · 01-10-2003, 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by ColKurtz
Basically the usa is a peacful nation of law.

That was true up until two years ago.

Dax · 01-10-2003, 07:02 PM

Who says we have nukes?

The US doesn't have any nukes.. just like we do not torture our POW's......

the indigo · 01-10-2003, 07:04 PM

That's why is ridiculous. If you want to tell someone to stop nuclear, then fucking make sure you don't have them yourself.

Dumb.

Sassyass · 01-10-2003, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by MrPheer
Why wouldnt it be ok for us to have nukes? We invented nukes.

Germans invented nukes and kept them hidden from Hitler.....

I guess it pays to be the biggest, and the strongest.
Did you know we are the only country that can still afford to develop our own air dominance fighters? Everyone else has to combine resources.

Anyways, who is going to MAKE us not have nukes?

Herb Kornfield · 01-10-2003, 07:11 PM

Too bad we all cant give peace a chance since war makes us all crazy, lets all just cool the fuck out as a human race.

If there was to be a strike from a nuke, there would be a counter-stirke and so on and so on, in the end, we'd all be dead or really close to it wondering "what is the fucking point?"...

basically, No one wins at all, we all loose, there is only 1 earth to live on, once this is gone, its gone and we die out as the human race after a few billion years here.

Man's nature is self destrucitve from what some claim, Sounds that way in this case.

I wish that the leaders that want to trash it all take a nice long look at the ordinary people that just want to make it thru the day, have a little enjoyment out of life and generally have a good time in between the time working \away from their families and what they love to do what ever that is.

Embracing one another's culture isnt that bad of a thing at all, in fact it makes you more well rounded as a person and gives you a better understanding of yourself.

Lets all get rid of all the shit, have a good time and party our balls off. Make love, not war, besides, Love converts better......

Out to clean the deli slicer.

Herb K

Libertine · 01-10-2003, 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by Sassyass

I guess it pays to be the biggest, and the strongest.
Did you know we are the only country that can still afford to develop our own air dominance fighters? Everyone else has to combine resources.

Anyways, who is going to MAKE us not have nukes?

Big cars, big guns, big nukes...
One would almost start to think Americans have to compensate for something...

jammyjenkins · 01-10-2003, 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by ColKurtz
The usa is in a unique position. Even though we are bullies etc, we have done an awful lot helping other countries in war, thru aide, etc. Basically the usa is a peacful nation of law. If we werent, then canada and south america would have been taken over years ago.

you're so confused, I've almost stopped finding it funny

almost

Tomahawk · 01-10-2003, 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by the indigo
That's why is ridiculous. If you want to tell someone to stop nuclear, then fucking make sure you don't have them yourself.

Dumb.

Double standard !

dav555add · 01-10-2003, 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by Aussie Rebel
I'm not asking this question to piss with anyone, I just dont understand why the yanks can have nukes and other countries cant without bush wanting to go to war with them. I dont know much about this nuke thing at all thats why I am asking.

Because the USA rule the world, it's that simple...
And for anyone who doesn't like it, well they can all go to Hell...
It may sound primitive but it's a cold hard fact.
You fuck with us and we will fuck you up.
Usually, when you're the strongest one, there is no such thing as reciprocity. You make the rule...
And to all of the American haters out there:

jammyjenkins · 01-10-2003, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by dav555add

Because the USA rule the world

I've printed this out, and I'll quote it back to you in 15 years. Deal?

dav555add · 01-10-2003, 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by jammyjenkins

I've printed this out, and I'll quote it back to you in 15 years. Deal?

Sure, buddy.

jammyjenkins · 01-10-2003, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by dav555add

Sure, buddy.

I hope you'll find it as funny as I'm sure I will.

dav555add · 01-10-2003, 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by jammyjenkins

I hope you'll find it as funny as I'm sure I will.

The USA has ruleth the World for over 150 years.
The USA now rule the World.
The USA will rules the World until the World ceases to exist.
If you don't like that fact, then you must pray your god that they find a way to have colonies on Mars or the Moon...
It's a simple fact, which I love to tell my European friend, being originaly from France, they find me very Un-European because of my beliefs. But what can I say? The good ole USA will rule the world as we know For ever, period...

jammyjenkins · 01-10-2003, 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by dav555add

The USA has ruleth the World for over 150 years.
The USA now rule the World.
The USA will rules the World until the World ceases to exist.
If you don't like that fact, then you must pray your god that they find a way to have colonies on Mars or the Moon...
It's a simple fact, which I love to tell my European friend, being originaly from France, they find me very Un-European because of my beliefs. But what can I say? The good ole USA will rule the world as we know For ever, period...

do you actually read back what you type before you post it?

dav555add · 01-10-2003, 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by jammyjenkins

do you actually read back what you type before you post it?

No, I don't, not when I followed pr0's advice and am to my 5th one. But still sober enough to reiterate my thought. USA #1

jammyjenkins · 01-10-2003, 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by dav555add

No, I don't, not when I followed pr0's advice and am to my 5th one. But still sober enough to reiterate my thought. USA #1

and again I reiterate -- NOT in 15 years

I'd put money on the fact

right, you're drunk so this is pointless

goodnight

and fuck off

dav555add · 01-10-2003, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by jammyjenkins

and again I reiterate -- NOT in 15 years

I'd put money on the fact

right, you're drunk so this is pointless

goodnight

and fuck off

No Sir, I am not drunk, as any good American, I can drink 5 Budweiser and still be able to make money. I don't know where you live, but if you think that in 15 years, the geopolitical situation will have changed then you are full of shit. The only opponent the USA may have is China, but they are too preoccupied selling their export goods to bother the USA. And if they took over the world, who would buy their stuff? Plus, China has never been the kind of culture to go and colonize.
Europe is too full of shit, too self centered and divided to be a viable opponent, what do you think will happen when the EU has 33 countries including Poland, Romania and Turkey??? They hate each other, ask a French what he thinks of Portugal or Spain, how about what Italian think of France. And the British, well they can't stand anyone,...
Russia is too fucked up to ever come back, and Russia was never a viable opponent, it was a paper tiger who just collapsed.
India, too many people, not enough resource, plus they have a major problem: Pakistan.
The Arab countries: they are too divided to ever be a menace to the USA, what will happen in 20+ years when we don't need oil to run vehicles anymore???
Austalia, New Zealand, Canada: Good countries, rather stable economy but not enough population. Anyways, they would have nothing to gain by standing up against the USA.
So, what do we have left?
South America: Give me a break, without the USA and all their natives south American using western union to send money back to their countries... Look at Venezuela, they have one of the richest soil in the world and you've got people dying of hunger and eating garbage.
Africa: It's going to take at least 100+ years to get them back on their feet, when they understand that they will not improve their situation by slaughtering each other, then there will be hope for them.
Anything else?
So i suggest you take a nice big dildo and stuff it up your butt

jammyjenkins · 01-10-2003, 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by dav555add

No Sir, I am not drunk, as any good American, I can drink 5 Budweiser and still be able to make money. I don't know where you live, but if you think that in 15 years, the geopolitical situation will have changed then you are full of shit. The only opponent the USA may have is China, but they are too preoccupied selling their export goods to bother the USA. And if they took over the world, who would buy their stuff? Plus, China has never been the kind of culture to go and colonize.
Europe is too full of shit, too self centered and divided to be a viable opponent, what do you think will happen when the EU has 33 countries including Poland, Romania and Turkey??? They hate each other, ask a French what he thinks of Portugal or Spain, how about what Italian think of France. And the British, well they can't stand anyone,...
Russia is too fucked up to ever come back, and Russia was never a viable opponent, it was a paper tiger who just collapsed.
India, too many people, not enough resource, plus they have a major problem: Pakistan.
The Arab countries: they are too divided to ever be a menace to the USA, what will happen in 20+ years when we don't need oil to run vehicles anymore???
Austalia, New Zealand, Canada: Good countries, rather stable economy but not enough population. Anyways, they would have nothing to gain by standing up against the USA.
So, what do we have left?
South America: Give me a break, without the USA and all their natives south American using western union to send money back to their countries... Look at Venezuela, they have one of the richest soil in the world and you've got people dying of hunger and eating garbage.
Africa: It's going to take at least 100+ years to get them back on their feet, when they understand that they will not improve their situation by slaughtering each other, then there will be hope for them.
Anything else?
So i suggest you take a nice big dildo and stuff it up your butt

I'm so happy you typed all that

15 years it is

mark my words

dav555add · 01-10-2003, 09:22 PM

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Originally posted by jammyjenkins

I'm so happy you typed all that

15 years it is

mark my words

You're hopeless

extreme · 01-10-2003, 09:23 PM

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Originally posted by dav555add

The USA has ruleth the World for over 150 years.
The USA now rule the World.
The USA will rules the World until the World ceases to exist.
If you don't like that fact, then you must pray your god that they find a way to have colonies on Mars or the Moon...
It's a simple fact, which I love to tell my European friend, being originaly from France, they find me very Un-European because of my beliefs. But what can I say? The good ole USA will rule the world as we know For ever, period...

Why does this remind me of Rome...

dav555add · 01-10-2003, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by extreme

Why does this remind me of Rome...

Can't compare a cat and a pit bull

jammyjenkins · 01-10-2003, 09:26 PM

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Originally posted by dav555add

The USA has ruleth the World for over 150 years.

that's the line that really had me laughing

obviously hasn't heard of a little thing called the british empire

jammyjenkins · 01-10-2003, 09:26 PM

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Originally posted by dav555add

Can't compare a cat and a pit bull

being purposely obtuse only ends up making you look stupid

m'kay?

dav555add · 01-10-2003, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jammyjenkins

that's the line that really had me laughing

obviously hasn't heard of a little thing called the british empire

Hopeless

dav555add · 01-10-2003, 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by jammyjenkins

being purposely obtuse only ends up making you look stupid

m'kay?

I'm obtuse because I think different than you?
Who are you? Jesus the Savior?

KRL · 01-10-2003, 09:30 PM

Its economics Aussie. Like always money is at the center of everything.

Lets say for example, the USA were to say fuck go ahead everyone build lots of nukes like we have. Then to counter that we'd have to expand our nuclear arsenals to an incredible level because you know the USA has a "thing" for having more than anyone on most everything. The defense budget which is already an abhorent and outrageous expense to US taxpayers at over $1 Billion per day would easily go into the trillions.

That would be a fiscal nightmare for the american economy.

So this is the real reason why none of the countries with nukes want anyone else to start having them too.

Da Money like always.

jammyjenkins · 01-10-2003, 09:31 PM

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Originally posted by dav555add

Hopeless

stumped ya didn't I?

dav555add · 01-10-2003, 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by jammyjenkins

stumped ya didn't I?

jammyjenkins, it takes a lot more to "stump" me...

drew · 01-10-2003, 09:33 PM

Sorry to say that JammyClown, but in 15 years you wont be around, we will nuke your country or some lucky US Marine will blow your head off..
How is UK BTW? LOL what a life, 5 am, no woman, spending your early saturday morning on GFY. It SUCKS to be YOU. LOL LOL LOL

jammyjenkins · 01-10-2003, 09:33 PM

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Originally posted by dav555add

jammyjenkins, it takes a lot more to "stump" me...

apparentely not

directfiesta · 01-10-2003, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dav555add

The USA has ruleth the World for over 150 years.
The USA now rule the World.
The USA will rules the World until the World ceases to exist.
If you don't like that fact, then you must pray your god that they find a way to have colonies on Mars or the Moon...
It's a simple fact, which I love to tell my European friend, being originaly from France, they find me very Un-European because of my beliefs. But what can I say? The good ole USA will rule the world as we know For ever, period...

The world will cease to exist BECAUSE of the US: self destruction

Socks · 01-10-2003, 09:46 PM

I'm not even gonna read all these, but I think saving europe from the nazi's does it.

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01-10-2003, 09:30 PM	#44
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Its economics Aussie. Like always money is at the center of everything. Lets say for example, the USA were to say fuck go ahead everyone build lots of nukes like we have. Then to counter that we'd have to expand our nuclear arsenals to an incredible level because you know the USA has a "thing" for having more than anyone on most everything. The defense budget which is already an abhorent and outrageous expense to US taxpayers at over $1 Billion per day would easily go into the trillions. That would be a fiscal nightmare for the american economy. So this is the real reason why none of the countries with nukes want anyone else to start having them too. Da Money like always. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

01-10-2003, 05:46 PM	#1
Aussie Rebel Blow Me U Geeks Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Maximum Security Posts: 5,108	Why is it ok for the yanks to have nukes? I'm not asking this question to piss with anyone, I just dont understand why the yanks can have nukes and other countries cant without bush wanting to go to war with them. I dont know much about this nuke thing at all thats why I am asking.

01-10-2003, 05:53 PM	#3
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	I think its like "he who has the most firepower makes the rules" or something like that.

01-10-2003, 05:54 PM	#4
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	There are countries that have them now, and they want to keep any more countries from acquiring them. It has to do with the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty that was signed in 1970. Basically they don't want this power to spread to any more countries then it already has, because of the potential for disaster. The ones that have the power can keep it, but no one else can get it, basically.

01-10-2003, 05:54 PM	#5
UncleJimmy Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: ariZONA Posts: 855	cuz us yanks are wankers ;) who knows man, I think someone had a meeting and flipped a coin one day... as it's always been on this planet, a game of who can have the power, and who can try to keep others from getting it.... we didn't like it when Indian and Pakistan went nuc a few years back, and I'm sure we won't like it when the next lil country goes nuc capable on us... I think everytime a country does it, it just increases the chances that someone's gonna be a freak and actually use one...

01-10-2003, 05:55 PM	#7
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	Actually the ones that have the weapons before the treaty was signed are also suppose to work on disarming, which has been done to some respect.

01-10-2003, 06:01 PM	#11
Aussie Rebel Blow Me U Geeks Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Maximum Security Posts: 5,108	Wouldn't it be a good thing if ALL countries that have them got rid of them? I wonder if sadam really does have some hidden.

01-10-2003, 06:02 PM	#13
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	During the fall of USSR more than few countries probably gained access to nuclear weapons. Skopjia was the blackmarket of nuclear products in balcans. Don't fool yourself,the nuclear knowledge/technology has been around for several decades...it's not the magic from the sky anymore and might be in plenty of evil hands. BOOM!

01-10-2003, 06:02 PM	#14
Scootermuze Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,513	Pretty much the same deal as using the sob story of starving children in these poor countries and sending billions to help.. when we in the U.S. also have starving children and they don't seem to give a rat's ass about it. We can have kids going to bed hungry in the U.S. but it's not right to have it in other countries...

01-10-2003, 06:06 PM	#15
Mr Pheer Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,292	Why wouldnt it be ok for us to have nukes? We invented nukes.

01-10-2003, 06:09 PM	#16
ColKurtz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambodia Posts: 596	The usa is in a unique position. Even though we are bullies etc, we have done an awful lot helping other countries in war, thru aide, etc. Basically the usa is a peacful nation of law. If we werent, then canada and south america would have been taken over years ago.

01-10-2003, 07:02 PM	#20
Dax Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,161	Who says we have nukes? The US doesn't have any nukes.. just like we do not torture our POW's......

01-10-2003, 07:04 PM	#21
the indigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North America Posts: 2,016	That's why is ridiculous. If you want to tell someone to stop nuclear, then fucking make sure you don't have them yourself. Dumb.

01-10-2003, 07:11 PM	#23
Herb Kornfield Is on the 1 Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philly Burbs Posts: 4,996	Too bad we all cant give peace a chance since war makes us all crazy, lets all just cool the fuck out as a human race. If there was to be a strike from a nuke, there would be a counter-stirke and so on and so on, in the end, we'd all be dead or really close to it wondering "what is the fucking point?"... basically, No one wins at all, we all loose, there is only 1 earth to live on, once this is gone, its gone and we die out as the human race after a few billion years here. Man's nature is self destrucitve from what some claim, Sounds that way in this case. I wish that the leaders that want to trash it all take a nice long look at the ordinary people that just want to make it thru the day, have a little enjoyment out of life and generally have a good time in between the time working \away from their families and what they love to do what ever that is. Embracing one another's culture isnt that bad of a thing at all, in fact it makes you more well rounded as a person and gives you a better understanding of yourself. Lets all get rid of all the shit, have a good time and party our balls off. Make love, not war, besides, Love converts better...... Out to clean the deli slicer. Herb K

01-10-2003, 09:33 PM	#47
drew Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: us Posts: 336	Sorry to say that JammyClown, but in 15 years you wont be around, we will nuke your country or some lucky US Marine will blow your head off.. How is UK BTW? LOL what a life, 5 am, no woman, spending your early saturday morning on GFY. It SUCKS to be YOU. LOL LOL LOL

01-10-2003, 09:46 PM	#50
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	I'm not even gonna read all these, but I think saving europe from the nazi's does it.