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Old 09-28-2010, 07:11 AM   #101
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Clarification - when withdrawing funds, MasterCard may charge you a currency conversion fee of up to 3%. Currency conversion applies to all debit cards across the market.
Well at paxum.com they use "EXACTLY" the same debit mastercards as payoneer (same bank).
And there seems to be no extra 3% fee for ATM withdrawals... ?


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Old 09-28-2010, 07:13 AM   #102
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Currently we do not offer p2p. We are working on developing it but it takes time in order for us to be sure it is secure and that there is no risk in regards to fraud. We take compliance and security to the highest standard. We can not comprise our business at the expense of our cardholders until we are 100% sure that this is viable. We are aware that this is very important to you, thus is is important to us. It is in the works. I will keep you posted on the progress.
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Old 09-28-2010, 07:13 AM   #103
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Well, knowing they are working on adding a P2P solution at least makes me consider using them some day. However, I will wait which systems are offered by most of my sponsors. Who needs loads of plastic if it's worthless - even if it's free?
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Old 09-28-2010, 07:19 AM   #104
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Old 09-28-2010, 07:19 AM   #105
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What is Payoneer support ICQ?
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Old 09-28-2010, 07:23 AM   #106
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Welcome to the board guys!
Btw, we already use your service. That ROCKs, but
Is it possible in future to make wires on our Payoneer business account from different billings, such as ccBill, SegPay, ePoch, etc.. ? It'll be more usefull for us as it were with epassporte.

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Old 09-28-2010, 07:23 AM   #107
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PayoneerTeam, can we send peer to peer transfers (Ie: Can a personal account send funds to an other personal account?

IF YES, what is the fee?

IF NOT, WHY NOT? Then you are useless! No webmasters can pay for their hosting, programmer, graphic design, content, copywriting, grunt work services, etc via PAYONEER THEN!
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Old 09-28-2010, 07:24 AM   #108
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As far as I know they don't have one...
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Old 09-28-2010, 07:25 AM   #109
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Old 09-28-2010, 07:27 AM   #110
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I signed up as a partner for my small group of in-house affiliates.

Signup process was painless and the rep I am working with, Mollie Searle, is helpful and accommodating.

Yesterday I requested 30 "tokens" - unique tracking links you can send to affiliates which they can use to sign up for a card.

I understand this will cost me around 20 dollars per card, which will be debited from the first card load. In my case I plan to overpay affiliates so that the card is "free".

So far I have only disbursed 5 "tokens" as I am having the cards sent to a freight forwarder in Miami who will forward them to me, the country I live in has a joke of a mail service AT BEST and there is no chance (IMO) that anything the resembles a credit card will arrive at its destination.

Let's see how long it takes the cards to get approved and arrive at my location.

Incidentally, none of my affiliates were asked to submit photo ID yet, though I was careful to make sure we have correct documentation on all of them so that verification at a later time will not be a problem.

This also helped me to update my own database and make sure that I have proper documentation on all my affiliates as well as correct contact information.

Incidentally, anyone I have done business with on this board will have my contact info on file, get ahold of me, if you want and I will send you a "token" if you like, so you can get your own payoneer card.

ATM that includes

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Some guy I bought some domains from and forgot his user already
Maybe a few others I cant remember.
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Old 09-28-2010, 08:15 AM   #112
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How do I get a partner account, been trying to contact payoneer for weeks to set one up so I can offer payoneer to affiliates.
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Old 09-28-2010, 08:17 AM   #113
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Old 09-28-2010, 08:21 AM   #114
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How do I get a partner account, been trying to contact payoneer for weeks to set one up so I can offer payoneer to affiliates.
I just did a standard signup on the website and Mollie contacted me within 48 hours.
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Old 09-28-2010, 08:22 AM   #115
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I'm still emotionally attached to my ePassporte account...
lol good one
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Old 09-28-2010, 08:53 AM   #116
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Interesting,i sended mail again to feedback and i got mail how i can get ach account there.
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Old 09-28-2010, 09:09 AM   #117
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Interesting,i sended mail again to feedback and i got mail how i can get ach account there.
So did I
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Old 09-28-2010, 09:18 AM   #118
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cant really be a leader since 2005 if no one here didnt hear about you until last week. but maybe you will be.
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Old 09-28-2010, 09:24 AM   #119
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Sorry but we are not offering that service right now.
If you do not have P2P, then I really have no use for payoneer..

fyi: by not offering P2P, you are really losing out on some major business as a ton of webmasters need a p2p alternative..
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Welcome to GFY Payoneer Staff.

AWE has been offering Payoneer as an alternative payout option to its affiliates for a while, as a reminder
AWE will cover the costs of the setup of a Payoneer account + FREE Mastercard debit card when applying through us.
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:04 AM   #121
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Interesting,i sended mail again to feedback and i got mail how i can get ach account there.
Incredible!! Me too! I sent an email some hours ago. I got a reply with the info.
I sent it! After less than 30 minutes, I got my US Virtual Account approved!
Really fast!
Its good!

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Old 09-28-2010, 10:07 AM   #122
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cant really be a leader since 2005 if no one here didnt hear about you until last week. but maybe you will be.
I got my first card with them in 2008
They are in business for a few years, but I think they worked with Mainstream and with a few big adult sponsors like Adult Friend Finder and AWE.
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:09 AM   #123
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Welcome to GFY Payoneer Staff.

AWE has been offering Payoneer as an alternative payout option to its affiliates for a while, as a reminder
AWE will cover the costs of the setup of a Payoneer account + FREE Mastercard debit card when applying through us.
Hey Mickey that?s good to know I hope it applies to webmasters who have applied through AWE and still waiting for their cards to arrive

It?s now the 25 day mark for me and still no card
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:17 AM   #124
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Hey Mickey that?s good to know I hope it applies to webmasters who have applied through AWE and still waiting for their cards to arrive

It?s now the 25 day mark for me and still no card
I got my card about 5/6 weeks after ordered! Im in Argentina
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:35 AM   #125
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welcome to GFY!!!!

i already have my card. damn i like payoneer. daily limit was awesome!!!! i bet this is the majority option replacement for epassporte. lol this is awesome.
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:38 AM   #126
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I got my card about 5/6 weeks after ordered! Im in Argentina
6 weeks!!!! Fuck, i'm in Argetina too.


Payoneer rep, how long is the void date on card? Just wonder how often i will need to wait for renewals.
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Well guys if you have all these programs and Wms all around singing up for you, you must be doing good!

So why don't you hire some more guys to work for you and speed things up!
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cant really be a leader since 2005 if no one here didnt hear about you until last week. but maybe you will be.
Where have you been? Payoneer has been an option for payouts on a number of sponsors for probably a year or more.
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Old 09-28-2010, 11:55 AM   #129
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I can be wrong but these are the fees for payoneer atm withdrawals ..

$2.15 + 3% ..... WTF +3% ???????????

Hmm you guys use EXACTLY the same debitcards as paxum right? (same bank) .. and they don't have the extra 3% fee.

So lemme be clear here.

Payoneer.com ATM withdrawal ($2500) cost >>>> $2.15 + $75 = $77.15
Paxum.com ATM withdrawal ($2500) cost >>>> $2


Waaauw great promo from payoneer ... pheew

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Huh ?
Outchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Now that's too much, i'll pass
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Ahhh i see that it's the fees regarding money convertion.

Anyways, I got a card but never used it. It is now expired (it expired 2 months ago) I tried to login but it gives me an error :
Account Blocked! (#MA104) Please contact customer support.

Sent a couple of emails about it (since last month) never got a reply.

How do i proceed ?

Let me know
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Old 09-28-2010, 01:54 PM   #131
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Ahhh i see that it's the fees regarding money convertion.

Anyways, I got a card but never used it. It is now expired (it expired 2 months ago) I tried to login but it gives me an error :
Account Blocked! (#MA104) Please contact customer support.

Sent a couple of emails about it (since last month) never got a reply.

How do i proceed ?

Let me know
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Same here and for the no-mail response part.
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Old 09-28-2010, 02:01 PM   #132
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are we forced to get a card here? epass had the option to not receive a card and therefore not be charged for it.
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Old 09-28-2010, 02:41 PM   #134
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I registered in 2008 via Freelancer.com Payoneer partner. I'm waiting for my card's approval 25 days now (old expired in August). I uploaded my ID, loaded funds from Payoneer partners and ACH. How many more days should I wait before I get my card approved?How to contact you EMAIL, MSN, ICQ (tried support at payoneer.com but no reply)?
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Same here and for the no-mail response part.
I know what happened here!
In April/2010 Payoneer changed the bank or something like that. All active cards were replaced with a new one issued by Choice Bank LTD.

I had 2 cards at this time. 1 from FriendFinder, 1 from AWE.
The AWE card was active, the FriendFinder expired.
They only reissued the AWE Card because it was active. The friendfinder card was never used, so they didnt reissue it and blocked the main account.

I think it is what happen here!
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I know what happened here!
In April/2010 Payoneer changed the bank or something like that. All active cards were replaced with a new one issued by Choice Bank LTD.

I had 2 cards at this time. 1 from FriendFinder, 1 from AWE.
The AWE card was active, the FriendFinder expired.
They only reissued the AWE Card because it was active. The friendfinder card was never used, so they didnt reissue it and blocked the main account.

I think it is what happen here!
You have more answers then Payoneer does, sure looks shitty on them.

As stated in this thread, without proper support or any attempts to step up the game, this company is not worth trusting your money with.

It's time for them to go big or go home, and it don't look like they have any intents on going big.
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It's the time to invest more in "support" guys!
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It's the time to invest more in "support" guys!
To late, I refuse to get money sent to an entity that takes 3-4 weeks to answer simple support emails.

Saying they are just to busy is BULLSHIT.

You got a 3 week lag in support? UP THE SUPPORT, don't tell us you're busy.

What if there was money at stake?

Seriously guys, wake the fuck up.
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Hi GFY Community,
We would like to officially introduce ourselves. Since 2005 Payoneer has been a leading provider of Payouts for web-based businesses worldwide. We support hundreds of well known companies in the affiliate, freelancer, and MLM fields.

Recently we significantly increased our portfolio in order to support the entertainment industry, adding over 200 companies that will be paying their affiliates, models, and studios through Payoneer.

Receiving funds through Payoneer is secure as all of our cards are FDIC insured and we follow the strictest of compliance and security regulations put forth by US banking standards.

Due to a spike in volume adding some of the top companies in the business as partners, we are experiencing some growing pains that we are addressing and taking care of as quickly as possible.

We would like to announce that as of today we will be monitoring the forum and using it to answer all of your questions. We are still adding additional partners daily and hope to be the most convenient and secure way to receive payments in the industry.

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Well at paxum.com they use "EXACTLY" the same debit mastercards as payoneer (same bank).
And there seems to be no extra 3% fee for ATM withdrawals... ?


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Did you even read his response? CURRENCY CONVERSION, which last I checked is free NOWHERE. Are you a Paxum shill or something?
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Old 09-28-2010, 09:49 PM   #143
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You better start working on your online support instead of being here.
It's not like he is answering questions here either. The high limit on the card is the only thing Payoneer has going, the rest is all shitty, zero support, p2p fees, no wires out...
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6 weeks!!!! Fuck, i'm in Argetina too.


Payoneer rep, how long is the void date on card? Just wonder how often i will need to wait for renewals.
I have a payoneer card. It was provided by Segpay. Expiry is 04/13. I got it this year so it was a 3 year expiry.

I have no idea if that expiry is standard but thats what I got.
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I have a payoneer card. It was provided by Segpay. Expiry is 04/13. I got it this year so it was a 3 year expiry.

I have no idea if that expiry is standard but thats what I got.
Me too! Also 3 years of expirity
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Old 09-29-2010, 04:39 AM   #146
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Same here 3 years.
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Old 09-29-2010, 05:09 AM   #147
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If somebody needs a Payoneer sponsors list - it's here http://www.payoneersponsors.net/ (just updated)
Can you add these sponsors to your list ;)
Hentaibiz.com
Pimpbosss.com
Gaytronix.com
All have Payoneer as a payout option now.
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Old 09-29-2010, 05:45 AM   #148
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ACH takes 3-5 business days. If you don't see it tomorrow give our customer support a call. One you get a ticket number post it here and I will see about pushing it through.
here it is ticket code is LTK145025020250X

I dont get money until now via ACH
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Old 09-29-2010, 07:44 AM   #149
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Did you even read his response? CURRENCY CONVERSION, which last I checked is free NOWHERE. Are you a Paxum shill or something?
Do a search on his posts and you will find the answer

Almost all related to it
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Old 09-29-2010, 08:44 AM   #150
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Setting up a payoneer partners account.

Im a little concerned for 2 reasons and I wanted to clarify this with you..
I was interested in offering payoneer to affiliates and models. I was quite shocked but just wanted to verify this that setting up a partner account I have to give you $1000 up front?
Another question came up when I received a ver concerning email regarding payoneer shutting down a partners account here is the email I received.

"Yair
VP Sales Payoneer
NY NY

Dear Yair, Molly Et al,

It saddens me that you have closed BKS Studios Payoneer Business account for the sole reason that you are just now finding out that the models in some of the Eastern European Countries are working in violation of some of the local laws.

This is just part of our industry. All models are independent contractors. All Studios and Networks work as Fee for Service companies. Just as the phone company is not responsible for how the phone are used, and neither are we. I am a fully licensed corporation in the USA and you have my Articles of Incorporation on file.

Of course its your decision to not work with our industry. I have CC'd my partners so they understand now that you will not be working with ADULT CHAT and that all their models are NOW AT RISK as we are all in the same business and I work for them as a live content provider. These statements come directly from Mollies letter to me (see below, I translated it in to Russian for my Russian Partners).

I suggest you make an announcement to that effect ASAP. It is very important that we all know Payoneer's position on this as soon as possible. My partners do not want to have their cards, their performers cards, or their Studio Agency's accounts closed in the future just because you did not fully research the nature of our business.

Better that we all know right now if you intend to work with Adult Chat and the Millions of Dollars it produces each year in revenues.

I will circulate this letter to all my Chat Network Partners explaining that they should contact your Risk Control immediately. After the Epassporte fiasco this is a most disheartening letter that Mollie as written.

I truly hope this is just a misunderstanding and we can fix and correct this Immediately.

The fact that I did not even get a call, the fact that I called twice and Mollie was at her desk and did not attempt to talk to me has given me great concern as to whether she fully understands the impact her letter will have on our industry and your bottom line.

As the founder of MotherNature.com I have a bit of knowledge as to how Forums posts and improper customer services can effect a business. I would hate for my industry to get the incorrect message.

If I have misrepresented Mollie in any way I ask you now to correct it and write to the CC'd list so they can be assured you will not be closing all their accounts.

All my partners and myself are trying to do the right thing for our models. We are seeking a safe way to pay them for services rendered.

With all respect,

Ross A Love
CEO
BKS Studios TA, LLC
[email protected]
Tampa Florida
St Petersburg Russia
Bucharest Romania
Kiev Ukraine

CC: Industry Partners
CC: Larry Walters ESQ - First Amendment.com
CC: Kevin Love ESQ - Criden & Love, PA


On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 6:22 AM, Mollie Searle <[email protected]> wrote:

Ross,



Payoneer supports many companies worldwide and runs a huge operation of international payouts.

We have risks that we need to manage and control when adding a new partner and payees as we are accountable for any source of funds, knowing our customers, and having as much information as possible about the kind of business that they are running.



From your email below we understand that there are some things that cross the limits of what we can work with and after sharing the email with our compliance department, I was instructed to close the account.



Again good luck,

Mollie"
From what i gather in this email it seems that payoneer closed this account due to adult cam models operating illegally? Or was it the site owner? Im a little confused however this person was obviously upset and I want to make sure If im setting up an account that Im not going to lose out like with epass.
Thankyou.
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