Says the failure lowlife who depends on the rich to have a living.
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You're right, we're in a depression. Moron. Is all this reading getting too complicated for you? Maybe you should go do some coloring with your kids, at least that will pose a serious challenge to you.
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Dollar debasement, rising unemployment, rising priceless, home prices falling, foreclosures rising, looks like I win.. Again. You're definitely my bitch.:1orglaugh


But it's...dropping ROFL. Poor guy can't even do simple algebra. What an embarrassment to your own profession.:1orglaugh

Who controlled Congress when Bush was in power? REPUBLICANS. And the one thing republicans do better than democrats is keep their own in line.

Welcome to the failures of outsourcing. What's good for a company is bad for the US economy.

Honestly, there's only one thing to do at this point. We're not getting any of those jobs that we lost back because we're not a manufacturing economy anymore. The only thing left to do is default on our debt. The thing is, we're going to get hyperinflation and a Zimbabwe type of economic collapse in the next 5 years, there's no stopping it. The printing press is making it even worse for us, as well as stimulus spending. We either need to get our factories up and running at full capacity again, or default. The third choice is more tricky and that's to get back on the Gold Standard using a Gold Cover Clause ratio.

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/his...s/partydiv.htm

You're a dumbass GatorB

Broken by the refuckucans. Do you associate with a group that is so prejudiced?

Straight, Gay, Bi or Trisexual everyone has the right to be treated equal and fairly, the same for color and religion and yes even Muslims.

fuck off goat raper. I TOLD you to stop tlaling to me and in fact I already told you to LEAVE. Honestly if I was allowed one free murder I'd seriously consider using it on you.

You DO know who controls the house and the senate? Or are you another liberal moron unable to grasp reality?

I actually don't disagree with that idea/opinion...

Says the nobody with no history, no back, no proof, no face time in the industry - basically a shit stain with a mouth is all you're known for. You can pretend all day long, "WE" here think it's funny.

I am right, correct... we're not in a depression or a recession because I said so.




Yeah all those things can go increase and it doesn't mean depression or even recession. You're so uneducated it's not even funny.


Too stupid to know what dropping is? A slight decrease and then an increase, up and down, I just don't see how you think it's dropping - hahaha, idiot.


I would love for you to back your ass up just once... just once, but naaa - you're a pussy keyboard warrior and you know it. I'm so glad my goal was reached - the one were I said everyone would treat you like the pile of shit that you are, it has come true...

If you can't even get your facts straight, I'm assuming you're too stupid to murder someone bigger and stronger than you.:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Yup.. Now we can all go back to laughing at or ignoring TheDoc. The moron just keeps on getting dumber and the denial is priceless. I rather enjoy making him my bitch. Does that make me..Gay???:1orglaugh

That is not quiet the way it works...a gay person could actually acknowledge to being a gay and the military will usually overlook the admission if the person does not engage in any type of homosexual act or overtly act in a gay manner. Holding hands with a male at the movies would constitute an overt gay act...and could very well get the person tossed out.

Anything else you need to say.

Kane in your example I see the issue. However in his I do too.

Tough choice, I don't think soldiers want to know other dudes are checking his ass out all the time.

Nobody would have a problem if they just kept that shit to themselves. Seriously, why must you blurt out your sexual orientation when you're career is fighting?

What did you guys say that I disagreed with? Man, your head is so twisted backwards, it's pure sad.

Huh? based on that link republicans were the majority for most of the Bush term.

"It's pure sad"? Doc, we know you're stupid but at least PRETEND you know how to speak English. Otherwise, it's border patrol for you.:1orglaugh

They were.. But GatorB seems to think they were the majority from 2000-2008 which isn't even remotely accurate.

user The Demon is correct.

So let's go through these ideas.

Idea #1 - We default on the debt. Not a terrible idea. It will wreck our ability to get loans from other countries and those countries that invest in ours may pull out, but the debt is gone. Then what? This will most likely cause all kinds chaos and economic trouble which we would have to recover from. We could, but how, unless we lower our standard of living dramatically or lower the cost of things dramatically we can't manufacture on a level where we would be able to compete with other countries. So we have no debt, but we still have no good jobs, unless I'm not seeing something here.

Idea #2 - Get factories up and running to full capacity again. So again, I ask what would we make that we could sell to the world that would be either cheaper or so much better that we could compete with third world countries who can pay 1/100 of the labor cost.

Idea #3 - Back to the gold standard. Nice idea, but we would have to see a major adjustment in prices for this to happen and we would have to see a big reduction in the amount of actual currency out there. This could happen and it would help reestablish the value of the dollar, but how exactly is this going to create jobs that pay more than minimum wage?

You have good ideas, I just want to know how you would plan to play them out.

Our standard of living is going to be lowered once the dollar is no longer the reserve currency, and all the treasury securities come flooding back to our country en masse. At least with a default, we can start off somewhat fresh and build up again. But yea, it does get rid of our debt.

We reached our economic apex in the 50's not because our stuff was necessarily cheaper, but because it was better quality. I would pay more money for better quality shit than buy something cheap from China. The problem is, our reputation regarding quality products has gone to shit. And the formation of unions don't help either. The fact is though, the unemployment problem would be solved and if ANYTHING, a manufacturing sector would drastically increase domestic demand, which is what we need. China is doing that now.

Well, that's how the gold standard works. When the dollar is covered by gold through lets say a 20% Gold cover clause ratio, prices will all go down. For instance, instead of 100k you'd be making 30k and that would never rise because our money is backed by something tangible. All of these bonuses and income increases are illusions. You'd be making 30k but everything would be so incredibly cheap, your standard of living would actually be higher. And being on the gold standard, minimum wage jobs would actually increase the standards of living for those people because prices would be ridiculously low.

Well I guess as soon as Obama becomes DICTATOR he can do as he pleases. Until then he has ot wait on Congress. Sorry he only got 56% of the Senate to repeal it. You're either a hater or just a dumb fucking moron with no clue to how the country works.

you are a pod.

hahahaha we're in agreement for once.

It's pure sad that you can't read, that's for sure. :thumbsup but not as sad as watching you pretend to be something you're not. :1orglaugh


Please keep posting your economic ideas, gfy needs more laughs.

Hey would you look at that. The forum clown is parroting my insults. I enjoy reading everything I just wrote having it said back to me, truly. Also, gfy is getting a lot of "laughs" with my ideas. You can just tell by... Oh wait.. We're actually having adult discussions. You're too stupid to partake. Keep trying, clown.:1orglaugh

we're in agreement more than you know, but i still don't know who you are.

What did you say that I said back? Sorry, you're stupidity confuses me. I've been pretty consistent in calling you a a poser, fake, a nobody, a fake lawyer, etc.....because you are.

You ARE a keyboard warrior, a pussy as bitch that knowns he'll never show his face so you spew complete an utter bullshit that you get called on in every single thread you post on, because you know you're a pussy.

IE: That's what bitch ass keyboard warriors do... No worries man, I've got you 100% figured out - I'll keep playing along though.

Leave it to the Doc to continue humiliating himself while trying to ruin a legitimate conversation. Keep repeating my words back to me Doc, we all know you're heated and you should be. You're too stupid to follow a discussion and you can't admit it, we get it. Please, keep butting, it's humorous. No wonder you're the laughing stock of your own industry:) :) :)

Yeah, I guess in regards to the gold standard I worded things wrong. in theory your standard of living would be about the same, maybe even better, but you would make less, however things would cost a lot less. It would be a hard sell for a lot of people, but it could help us.

I also agree that we need to return to offering a higher quality product or at least national pride in our products. Many people don't care about quality, they care about cheap. Walmart would not be as big as it is if people cared about quality. If we can make somethings that are simply better, but still competitive on price we might be able to build some manufacturing, however I think the days of us returning to being a manufacturing power are gone and won't be coming back soon. What I feel we need to do is focus on technology and energy. If we can produce and develop new technologies we can sell that to manufacturing countries. If we can mass produce green energy we can sell that as well, not to mention cut ourselves off from having to buy all the oil from countries that don't like us.

Even if we return to a place where the average manufacturing job pays $3 per hour and a person can live decently on that wage, it still doesn't compete with the guy who makes $1 a day in a third world country doing the same thing. And it seems to me that if our dollar value increased and our wages decreased then you could also see a decrease in wages within third world countries.

The problem is most of these solutions come with an ugly cost. people are going to have to suffer and change in order for all of this to take hold. They could be better once it is done, but getting there will not be easy. People will not volunteer to do this and I doubt they will elect politicians that would so I think the only way any of this will come about is if the economy does crater and this is put forth as the only solution.

fuck you REPUBLICAN DUMB FUCKS

There is no reason to think that just because someone is gay, they are lusting after you in the shower. I was in the army, and I'm sure that there were some guys in there that were gay, and I couldn't care less. As long as people behave themselves when it comes to respecting others, I have no problem.

For the same reason, I think that it's silly that we segregate men and women in showers and latrines. Just because someone is straight does not mean that they will lust after people of opposite gender in the showers.


I say stop all the segregation. Soldiers are soldiers, straight, gay, men, women, etcs...


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and for you Slutboat, I have this little video. I'm sure you probably won't bother to watch it, since you are such a total one party slave, but working in the banking sector for all these years, I've been watching this happening and talking to people about it. I was only just shown this video today:

No I actually work in this industry - finding and shooting hotties for you guys to jack off to and make content that you guys make money from - Guys like Semen Demon just talk shit all day on blogs.. I dont have time for all this shit - girls need my attention.

so once again FUCK YOU REPUBLICANS AND DEMS THAT THINK GAY PEOPLE ARE LESS HUMAN THAN YOU!!!

I'm out

you need a less destructive hobby.

Things would cost a lot less to outweigh your salary reduction and the economy would work very well because our fiat currency would be backed by Gold.

Yup, those days are gone. Our only hope in this regard is to have some technological breakthrough. But knowing us, we'll outsource all that.

We need to stop worrying about 3rd world country. If our dollar value increased and our wages decreased, that would still work for our manufacturing sector, as long as the dollar value increased more than the wage decrease.

I agree. All of these solutions work only after our country's economy collapses and we suffer hardships.

Son... when you can have an actual adult conversion I'll attempt to have one with you. What's funny is you're not even following the actual discussion and you think you are.

I'll let you get back to pretending you're something other than a keyboard warrior that can ever backup anything he says... :1orglaugh poser

there is more than one discussion going on.