With the 56-43 vote, Democrats fell short of the 60 votes needed to advance the legislation.
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Another promise broken by the current administration. But at least the recession is over.You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.Comment
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It would have went through if the Dream Act crap wasn't attached to it... it failed because assholes tried to attach bullshit legislation with it thinking people would just vote yes because of the nature of the bill.Last edited by TheDoc; 09-21-2010, 03:00 PM.
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Nice to see that the US military can subvert the constitution that they're in place to defend. i.e. Didn't some court say that the law is unconstitutional?Comment
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Yeah, sucks to break a promise when trying and work with congress/military on this, sucks they hold the cards. In the reverse, if it was the other side the idea wouldn't have ever made it to paper.
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It's nice to see when there is one president in power, the liberals call bullshit but when they have their own in power, they rally around him like dogs and believe anything he says, especially if all of the evidence points to the contrary. But nobody claimed those morons know anything about economics.
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What did he say? Who rallied up and supporting him here? What are others believing he said that he lied about? Evidence to what? What economics are we talking about here? I couldn't find the quote, "objective 3rd party voters" who said this or anything related to it?It's nice to see when there is one president in power, the liberals call bullshit but when they have their own in power, they rally around him like dogs and believe anything he says, especially if all of the evidence points to the contrary. But nobody claimed those morons know anything about economics.
What's funnier is those moronic liberals parade as "objective 3rd party voters"
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Obama said the recession was over. Your response? "Yup, glad that's over". It's hilarious how easily you criticize the conservatives but when it's a liberal doing the talking, he MUST be telling the truth. It's also hilarious how you don't think for yourself or do any kind of economic research. 9.6 unemployment rate before you even adjust it, which would put it around 16%. Every month Obama reaches a new high for debt as well as trade deficit. Consumer spending is at an all time low, the dollar is still kicking the bucket, but yea, we're out of the recession doc
Actually, you may be on to something here. You're right, we are out of the recession. We were "out" a year ago when we entered a depression.
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Your big ass response to me was over agreeing that the recession was over? Damn....Obama said the recession was over. Your response? "Yup, glad that's over". It's hilarious how easily you criticize the conservatives but when it's a liberal doing the talking, he MUST be telling the truth. It's also hilarious how you don't think for yourself or do any kind of economic research. 9.6 unemployment rate before you even adjust it, which would put it around 16%. Every month Obama reaches a new high for debt as well as trade deficit. Consumer spending is at an all time low, the dollar is still kicking the bucket, but yea, we're out of the recession doc
Actually, you may be on to something here. You're right, we are out of the recession. We were "out" a year ago when we entered a depression.
Looks like you need to go back to school and learn what a recessions and depressions actually are... maybe try attending school, not posting so much basically?
And yeah, we're out of a recession.. consumer spending doesn't have to be normal, dollar doesn't have to be rocking, jobs don't have to return right away - and yes, the recession can still be over with all this.
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We are not in a depression...and have not been in a depression since the thirties,,,but have been through more than one recession since the thirties.Obama said the recession was over. Your response? "Yup, glad that's over". It's hilarious how easily you criticize the conservatives but when it's a liberal doing the talking, he MUST be telling the truth. It's also hilarious how you don't think for yourself or do any kind of economic research. 9.6 unemployment rate before you even adjust it, which would put it around 16%. Every month Obama reaches a new high for debt as well as trade deficit. Consumer spending is at an all time low, the dollar is still kicking the bucket, but yea, we're out of the recession doc
Actually, you may be on to something here. You're right, we are out of the recession. We were "out" a year ago when we entered a depression.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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I would suggest the same to you but it's obvious you weren't intelligent to pass school, seeing as how you don't know what a recession or depression are, just taking Obama's word for it.
THen what's a recession doc? Entertain us? You like to make shit up without any factual finding, make us laugh one more time. I can't wait for the next post full of deflection and misdirection. Oh well, this is what I get for dealing with the intellectually inferior.And yeah, we're out of a recession.. consumer spending doesn't have to be normal, dollar doesn't have to be rocking, jobs don't have to return right away - and yes, the recession can still be over with all this.
Again, get your ass back to school, educate yourself.
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"The longest recession the U.S. has endured since the Great Depression ended in June 2009, a group that dates the beginning and end of recessions declared Monday.
The National Bureau of Economic Research, a panel of academic economists based in Cambridge, Massachusetts, said the recession lasted 18 months. It started in December 2007 and ended in June 2009. Previously the longest post World War II downturns were those in 1973-1975 and in 1981-1982. Both of those lasted 16 months.
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It depends on what you call a depression. Ironically, it's the mainstream economists who believe we were ever in a recession and are now out.
http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2010/0...-a-depression/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_694638.html
http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/2010/0...sion-just.html
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Just a few links there for you to read. I can explain to you my idea of a depression using charts and what not.Greed is GoodComment
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Yea, those are the same people that believe stimulus spending and quantitative easing is the answer to our prayers. Basically, the same morons like Greenspan and Bernanke. Or they're trying to raise consumer confidence with these random announcements, as well as constantly downgrading the economic outlook. It's a shame that the bullshit isn't working because the only thing they're getting out of the stock market is low volume trading.Greed is GoodComment
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Why would a gay enlist in the army? "So, you want me to kill others, plus put my life on the line for you everyday, but I'm not allowed to tell anyone my sexual orientation?".
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From my brief look into it, the supreme court has not upheld it as it wasn't directly challenged. What was challenged was whether or not the governement could withhold funding from universities if they refused access to recruiters based on DADT. However, the recent court ruling is a direct challenge to it... Am I wrong in this? Never looked into its history before.Comment
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Odd how everyone on gfy disagrees with you but The Demon, again.... is correct.. A true moron!
Too stupid to know what a recession is? Here let me shoot you a url....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession
And for depression check this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depression_(economics)
Weeee... as we can see our GDP is not falling so both Recessions and Depressions spewing from you are bullshit as usual. Let's just cover a couple of the quick points, consumer spending isn't dropping more, investments aren't dropping, business profits are growing...
Please, for the sake of gfy... please, please please shut your cock holster and educate yourself. I won't even entertain the depression statement you made... it's a laughable joke. ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
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Oh perfect, thanks for proving my point. The economy is contracting and all Obama has to show for it is artificial growth. Do you know what artificial growth is? I mean we all know you're a moron so I'm not sure if I should be stepping into dangerous waters. We wouldn't want you embarrassing yourself all over again.Too stupid to know what a recession is? Here let me shoot you a url....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession
And for depression check this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depression_(economics)Good lord, you just keep getting your ass handed to you on a daily basis.Considered a rare and extreme form of recession, a depression is characterized by its length, and by abnormally large increases in unemployment, falls in the availability of credit—quite often due to some kind of banking/financial crisis, shrinking output and investment, numerous bankruptcies—including sovereign debt defaults, significantly reduced amounts of trade and commerce—especially international, as well as highly volatile relative currency value fluctuations—most often due to devaluations. Price deflation, financial crises and bank failures are also common elements of a depression.
Consumer spending:Weeee... as we can see our GDP is not falling so both Recessions and Depressions spewing from you are bullshit as usual. Let's just cover a couple of the quick points, consumer spending isn't dropping more, investments aren't dropping, business profits are growing...
http://247wallst.com/2010/09/09/cons...d-cant-get-up/
Business profits are lower than ever adjusted for inflation. Capital investments are down and aren't going back up. So you see, this is what happens when a middle aged moron and failure tries to talk about something he doesn't understand. It was fun kicking your ass again doc. Now go back to making us laugh, clown. I definitely enjoy making you look stupid. Perhaps you can do us a favor and stop coming here to get embarrassed on a daily basis. The collective IQ of this forum is sure to go up.
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all it means is nothing has changed.
none of you are any different now than you were 3 hours ago.
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Well you said that Obama said the US is out of a recesion whereas he's just relaying what the "experts" tell him.
Regardless, no one really knows where things are heading. They all have lots of ideas and opinions but something could happen tomorrow that could blow it out of the water. If they get it right they slap themselves on the back and tell everyone how brilliant they are and if they get it wrong they make up some excuse like they didn't take into account xyz. Both sides do the same thing.Comment
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No, many intelligent people have a great idea where we are heading. We have astronomical debt and we hardly are a manufacturing power anymore. We are now a service economy, which means our trade deficits will keep on growing. The morons in congress and mainstream economists practice a flawed theory where they think throwing money at the problem solves the problem, and that consumer spending powers the economy, rather than capital investments and manufacturing. So we're going to continue the quantitative easing, further devaluing the dollar and pushing precious metals up. At least the Great Depression was a deflationary depression.. Everything was cheap as balls. We're going to get an inflationary/hyperinflationary collapse.Greed is GoodComment
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It is not just about telling. Say for example there are two guys in the military. They both live off base and go home at the end of every day. Guy#1 is straight. One evening he and his girlfriend decide to go to the movies. While they are standing in line they are holding hands. A senior officer sees them. He would think nothing of it. He might even praise the guy that he has girl. If Guy#2 is gay and he does the exact same thing with his boyfriend and he too gets seen, he could be tossed out of the military for being gay.
So it has little to do with telling anyone anything. Supposedly they can't ask you if you are gay, but if they find out you are, then you are done.Comment
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In fact it has been challenged multiple times coming at it from a different angle each time and has yet to be shot down. IIf I am not mistaken...most recently some lower court judge ruled against DADT from the angle of attack that was presented...so it will probably go back to the Supreme Court and who knows what the Supreme Court will say. I suspect that at some point in time a challenge will present the correct wording and it will be shot down.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Well again, because The Demon says it, it's true... what a pathetic joke.
If you removed the artificial growth (in jobs?), we're still not in a recession... all the fake job growth in the world, still wouldn't put us in a recession, hell we could still be losing them and we still wouldn't be in a recession - idiot...Oh perfect, thanks for proving my point. The economy is contracting and all Obama has to show for it is artificial growth. Do you know what artificial growth is? I mean we all know you're a moron so I'm not sure if I should be stepping into dangerous waters. We wouldn't want you embarrassing yourself all over again.
haha... read more idiot "Generally, periods labeled depressions are marked by a substantial and sustained shortfall of the ability to purchase goods relative to the amount that could be produced using current resources and technology (potential output).[2] Another proposed definition of depression includes two general rules: 1) a decline in real GDP exceeding 10%, or 2) a recession lasting 2 or more years.[3][4]"
Looks like you're wrong, again...
It doesn't have to increase/return idiot... it just has to stop dropping. Being that it's not dropping through the floor, your theories are yet wrong again.Consumer spending:
http://247wallst.com/2010/09/09/cons...d-cant-get-up/
Business profits are lower than ever adjusted for inflation. Capital investments are down and aren't going back up. So you see, this is what happens when a middle aged moron and failure tries to talk about something he doesn't understand. It was fun kicking your ass again doc. Now go back to making us laugh, clown. I definitely enjoy making you look stupid. Perhaps you can do us a favor and stop coming here to get embarrassed on a daily basis. The collective IQ of this forum is sure to go up.
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fuck you. How about all these republicans against the DREAM Act because Obama is for it yet it was actualy THEIR idea to begin with?It's nice to see when there is one president in power, the liberals call bullshit but when they have their own in power, they rally around him like dogs and believe anything he says, especially if all of the evidence points to the contrary. But nobody claimed those morons know anything about economics.
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I'm not disagreeing with you all, actually I agree with a lot of what you are saying. Most of the manufacturing jobs that we are losing are being replaced with lower paying service and retail level jobs or higher paying tech jobs which will require the workers to go back to school.
That said, what do you think we need to do in order to right the ship? We can't simply start manufacturing stuff without some kind of protective tariffs because we simply can't compete with third world countries when it comes to labor force wages. So if you were in charge and whatever you said would go, what would you do?Comment
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Like the chick at the town hall meeting said to Obama the other day...I'm tired of defending his ass too. This should be a simple no-fucking brainer for the folks in Washington.
Politics as usual....
Can I hijack this to be an epass thread now Doc?
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Says the failure lowlife who depends on the rich to have a living.
You're right, we're in a depression. Moron. Is all this reading getting too complicated for you? Maybe you should go do some coloring with your kids, at least that will pose a serious challenge to you.If you removed the artificial growth (in jobs?), we're still not in a recession... all the fake job growth in the world, still wouldn't put us in a recession, hell we could still be losing them and we still wouldn't be in a recession - idiot...
Dollar debasement, rising unemployment, rising priceless, home prices falling, foreclosures rising, looks like I win.. Again. You're definitely my bitch.haha... read more idiot "Generally, periods labeled depressions are marked by a substantial and sustained shortfall of the ability to purchase goods relative to the amount that could be produced using current resources and technology (potential output).[2] Another proposed definition of depression includes two general rules: 1) a decline in real GDP exceeding 10%, or 2) a recession lasting 2 or more years.[3][4]"
Looks like you're wrong, again...
But it's...dropping ROFL. Poor guy can't even do simple algebra. What an embarrassment to your own profession.It doesn't have to increase idiot... it just has to stop dropping for the recession to end.
GO BACK TO SCHOOL.....
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Welcome to the failures of outsourcing. What's good for a company is bad for the US economy.
Honestly, there's only one thing to do at this point. We're not getting any of those jobs that we lost back because we're not a manufacturing economy anymore. The only thing left to do is default on our debt. The thing is, we're going to get hyperinflation and a Zimbabwe type of economic collapse in the next 5 years, there's no stopping it. The printing press is making it even worse for us, as well as stimulus spending. We either need to get our factories up and running at full capacity again, or default. The third choice is more tricky and that's to get back on the Gold Standard using a Gold Cover Clause ratio.That said, what do you think we need to do in order to right the ship? We can't simply start manufacturing stuff without some kind of protective tariffs because we simply can't compete with third world countries when it comes to labor force wages. So if you were in charge and whatever you said would go, what would you do?Greed is GoodComment
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Says the nobody with no history, no back, no proof, no face time in the industry - basically a shit stain with a mouth is all you're known for. You can pretend all day long, "WE" here think it's funny.
I am right, correct... we're not in a depression or a recession because I said so.
Yeah all those things can go increase and it doesn't mean depression or even recession. You're so uneducated it's not even funny.
Too stupid to know what dropping is? A slight decrease and then an increase, up and down, I just don't see how you think it's dropping - hahaha, idiot.
I would love for you to back your ass up just once... just once, but naaa - you're a pussy keyboard warrior and you know it. I'm so glad my goal was reached - the one were I said everyone would treat you like the pile of shit that you are, it has come true... ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
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If you can't even get your facts straight, I'm assuming you're too stupid to murder someone bigger and stronger than you.
Yup.. Now we can all go back to laughing at or ignoring TheDoc. The moron just keeps on getting dumber and the denial is priceless. I rather enjoy making him my bitch. Does that make me..Gay???I actually don't disagree with that idea/opinion...
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