Thank you for taking the time to not read a fucking thing I wrote before you shat out your opinions about what I wrote :1orglaugh


I think I have specifically said in a few posts now about that it is not cheating in any way shape or form. And yes, I'm sure the whiners who get bumped down in position are going to scratch their head and think "Fuck. Why didn't I think of that". But by then... too late for them ;)

Look. It's not EASY. It's not cheating, its NOT scamming google (or anyone for that matter) in any way.

What it is is an UNDERSTANDING of how google works and an UNDERSTANING and ability to come up with fresh and legit ideas to work yourself into #1 position.

Look, I'm not going to spell it out for you...

There is enough information in this thread now for anybody who really wants to figure it out to know how to do it. Once you know how to do it, you'll realize that the hardest part is the fact that you DO have to be legit about it.



:winkwink:

I'm glad you at least knew a little bit about google before you tried to post a negative comment. :thumbsup

But nope. Certain keywords have very dominant placeholders for them. They are like the authoritative sources for those keywords.
They keep their positions for ever and ever... well.. at least until a new authoritative source comes along that weights higher than the previous. Cmon, sounds like you know this already.

goBigtime how old are you?

Yeah actually this guy knows what hes doing.

He probably does it enough for enough keywords and phrasesto where hes not worried about the eventual bans he'll get from google.


I prefer to do things 100% legit though :)

Someone offering to guarantee a consistent #1 spot on Google for any keyword??????????

Well if you believe in this guy then you'll believe in the tooth fairy. For the last 5 dances my partner and I have had a page 1 listing for a reasonable search term and I can tell you that it is impossible to guarantee that you will retain any spot on the first page.

We've had #1, we've also had #3, #5 and this month we're at #6. A friend of ours has shared that page 1 with us all that time until this re-shuffle when he got dumped off page 1 all together.

The current #1 spot is held by a site that wasn't even on page 3 last time but should have been right up there on page 1 all the time we have been.

There have been people trying to crack Google's algorithm for ages without much success - I doubt that the wiz who started this thread has done any better.

Now all I need to hear from him is that it's all done with meta tags :disgust

^^^^^^^ Regarding tht OregonMozart.org "Britney Spears Nude" guy. What I said above holds true here. Sure you could setup spider traps.... and take advantage of a few other google tricks that this guy is doing... and you'll get good postioning for an update or two. But you'll risk getting your sites domains banned.

?

Yeah.. If I don't find someone who wants to play with this idea, I'll dig this thread up again in a couple months when I'm ready to do it for myself and my own keywords.

No big deal.

I probably shouldn't have posted this thread anyway... I already have 2 DVD players that I don't use. :1orglaugh

Well Said

... no I am not interested in that, anyway I wasn´t refering to you, I was refering to mojo.

HOLY FUCKING SMOKE, have I just used the "quote" feature ??

Copied from a different post I did on this

We deal with an SEO firm that works with Fortune 500 clients and small guys. We had them do a seminar at a local university small business function.

The one thing he said over and over was "Content Is King" and any company that says they will get a #1 ranking for your company is a liar. They may be able to get rank on 3-4 word key phrases but a 1-2 word is next to impossible without cheating, and when caught you are screwed. Home Depot used doorway pages a few years back and Google buted their chops for about 6 months.

A peson needs to do a keyword analysis and take those 2 keyword terms and add 1-2 more deeper search terms and then make their page relevant and have the keyword content, title and subject headings (H1 tags) and then slowly start working your pages to rank.

They will tell us and our non Adult clients that it may take 3-6 months to get on page 1 or 2. Also even if you are # 1 you are never going to hold rank. Google looks for changes to keep rank and the big thing is that Google and the others are in business to provide a product people will trust and continue to use. People that mess with that are usually taught a lesson ie Blacklisted.

My Non-Adult 2 Cents Knowledge.

Actually that question was geared more toward anyone familiar with the ubercorporate "B2B" SEO industry....

like stuff you might find here http://www.seoconsultants.com/



I really should have anticipated all the negativity I would get from this post. :1orglaugh I guess if you say something like this with 300+ posts it doesn't mean shit.

And for those of you thinking I'm claiming to be a magician saying "PRoof it! Make mydomain.com #1 right now and I'll believe you".. most people know that unless your taking over high PR domains, that it would take 30-60 days before you would see the listings.

We automatically reverse engineered a number of rankings/listings for a large number of keywords in order to verify that my ideas of how google works (which I picked up from about a week of reading on the web and in forums) held true across the board. They did and they do.

No I think you opened a little to strong on your choice of words.

Ahhhhhhh, now I know, goBigtime gets expired dmoz domains, that's the secret.

Luc.. I bet your glad your not in my position here :1orglaugh

Woo I lit my own fire :feels-hot

I mean I just don't know what to say without giving it all away. And even if I did.. I think 8/10 these guys still couldn't do anything with it.

Trust me, for every 25 people that are bashing me there is one person that is :1orglaugh :1orglaugh at this thread because he/she knows just what I am talking about. It's pretty fucking simple -- legitimate google search enging positioning.

If you've been around awhile and have good innovative ideas, AND a good understanding of how google work (its fully documented on the web) then you would have no problem SECURING top positions on google - for any keyword you want. (Though some keywords phrases would be MUCH harder because of the amount of competition.. still I think ANY keyword could be taken over within a 6 months period, and most within 2-3)

Nope. But thanks for playing ;)

(Ho shit I sound like -=Hungryman=- here) :1orglaugh

I spoke with GoBigTime a while back and he was telling me the same thing. He seems pretty confident he can do it and i mean if he leases the page, then you know the ranking will be there. Just make sure it isn't one with a date next to it those tend to go back down a little while after.

GoBigTime, show us what you can do i'm pretty curious about it

Damn I'm getting tired now. Not going to be able to respond for much longer today...


You suggested I am a thief. That I am going to steal peoples money.


I never said anything about wanting the bling bling up front. What I said is that my time would be expensive. I would be open to discuss terms with interested and qualified people. Why do you think I suggested that I would be in control of the domain and the traffic. :winkwink:


And the thing about you reading something different than what I have been saying isn't surprising. (I never mentioned anything about email lists.)


Anyway I think I have a couple good plans for pR00fs!

I'm going to take a nap or go to sleep pretty soon, but I'll unviel them when I wake up if this thread is still alive.

Probably ~ same age as you, 28.

(lag on replies here.. there are sooooo many)

Damn Joe... is this personal or something? It's like you want to fight me :)

Once again you have refused to read before making a comment.

Did I say ANYTHING about pricing or pricing terms? I just kind of roughly threw the idea out there. What I did suggest is that I would take YOUR keyword, get top 3 position with it and then after the position is obtained I would sell you the traffic from that ranking.



I know I can do what I say, that's all that matters :)

Soon someone else in here will know it... I just need to find someone trustworthy to give a little tutorial to.

Here's my take on all this: I think goBigtime thinks he can do it. I think he's worked out some sort of system or uncovered something he believes to be of great value for ranking high on Google. I also believe he is probably wrong. People have been fighting Google for years and I really doubt that goBigtime has anything new.

The #1 absolute and indisputable proof that he's wrong is in his own post, quoted above. If other people "know what you are talking about", than you can never guarantee #1 since you will be competig with other people who ALSO know how to get #1 rankings every time. Ony one person can be #1. That's why it's called #1.

Even without that, I think this will turn out to be a flop. If you can come up with some compelling proof, contact me. I'd certainly pay for this service.

SpaceAce

I think we need to assassinate him, before he reveals too much.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

What sucks is I have plans to too....

but just to one person who can set the record straight.


Or maybe I should just take the flak as payment for starting a topic that I probaly shouldn't have in the first place - and move along.

People get maaaaaaaaaad when you claim you can do something like this with ease :winkwink:

They come out shouting THIEF! SCAM! CROOK! like its completely impossible and I should be drawn and quartered for even suggesting such a thing... but yet people have and hold #1 positions on google all day long.

It's not hard if you know how the shit works. It could just be a lot of work for certain keywords.

And for anyone that is still paying attention - PR is way overrated.

Wrong.

Like I said in another post.. there are literally tens of thousands of keywords and phrases for all the different niches. That's PLENTY of business to go around.

But what it comes down to in the end is who has the bigger & better idea for holding on to that #1 position. If one guy has to cheat to get ahead.. then it will be short lived anyway & in the end the legit guy is going to get more hang-time in that #1 spot.

I withdraw my offer to do SE work with anyone now (I'll still dig this thread back up later to show you guys the positions I obtain) but if I had done anything, I would be very fair about it. If a position dropped, I so would the price.. it would be all worked out beforehand.

But your still cool with me SpaceAce :thumbsup

Here is a repost of something i said before..

Ok, so in one thread you say you can obtain #1 rankings for single keywords.

Now, in a different thread where superweb posted, and you said he was correct

"The one thing he said over and over was "Content Is King" and any company that says they will get a #1 ranking for your company is a liar. They may be able to get rank on 3-4 word key phrases but a 1-2 word is next to impossible without cheating, and when caught you are screwed. Home Depot used doorway pages a few years back and Google buted their chops for about 6 months. "

And you Said:
"Superweb you are absolutely right! And if NotJoe would READ a fucking post before he starts talking shit he would understand that I've been saying that it is NOT EASY, instantaneous, nor does it use any tricks or anything that will get you banned. It is hard work. But it is 100% doable for any keyword out there.

Now go back to the real thread (See above)"

Now let me note what superweb said again,

"They may be able to get rank on 3-4 word key phrases but a 1-2 word is next to impossible without cheating,".

Nuff said.

Joe

Nice way to cut my reply from one post and apply it to something else that was said :thumbsup

Keep on speculating Joe. But your wrong. Obviously 1-2 word keywords can be obtained without cheating. Have you bothered to do any searches and review the listings before posting this?

Have you actually been able too acheive any #1 listings of your own or is this all based on the fact that you read some message boards and did a bit of research and THINK you've figured google's secrets out?

Ok I have to go to sleep for a bit... so I'm going to load everyone up with all the pieces to the puzzle. Now keep in mind, we took things a bit farther and ran some analysis on different aspects of this with scripts, but enough of the pieces are here:


### Note this is common knowledge among googlers:

First get yourself the google toolbar, because it will make all of this easier. Because the toolbar contains a quick link for you to check out cache, page rank & backlinks of a page.



Now pick your keyword or phrase...

Use "Sex" if you want (that should be a good example)


Look at positions, page rank, backlinks, cache (has the page changed? or is it stale and static?), # of times yoru keyword/phrase are in the source, domain & url, title... a few other things, but this is more than enough of whats important to lock in top positioning.

Write them down, take note of the patterns and significance of the different values & comparing notes between
the different keywords.

Once you have done this, then you have the right to start talking shit if you still want to :winkwink:

### If your lazy and you don't compare multiple keywords and you don't write the results down for each of the variables I mentioned.. you wont learn shit.

Soon you'll start to understand how it all works...

But even when you do, like I said, thats only half the battle.
Getting to the "Ahhhh I see" part is easy :)

Of course I'm not going to spoon feed you the whole thing & put ideas in your head about what you could/should do to get the positioning.

But now there is PLENTY on the table for those who are motivated enough to investigate what they have been talking shit about.

If you talk shit from this point on, please post the results of your notes from the assignment above... otherwise save your breath and GFY :321GFY



** Note: This is all in fun people.. I hope your learning something here. If not... well.. Don't worry.

http://ntpaul.sprog.auc.dk/pics/subvert/mcdonalds.jpg

Theres still a place for you in the world. :winkwink:

Wrong, once you have been able to achieve a #1 or even a #10 listing for a month or two then you can talk shit; otherwise your just a dreamer.

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You just couldn't help it huh?


Look.. I have MY notes & databases. I know what positions have been where for how long for which keywords.

I don't need to have #1 positions to know HOW to get them.

Trust me, I'll have the positions I want when I need them.. legitimately.

Hey Asshole, I never CUT or Munged anything which was taken out of context.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=98747 is the URL where everything happened.

SuperWeb said, and i quote
"We deal with an SEO firm that works with Fortune 500 clients and small guys. We had them do a seminar at a local university small business function.

The one thing he said over and over was "Content Is King" and any company that says they will get a #1 ranking for your company is a liar. They may be able to get rank on 3-4 word key phrases but a 1-2 word is next to impossible without cheating, and when caught you are screwed. Home Depot used doorway pages a few years back and Google buted their chops for about 6 months.

A peson needs to do a keyword analysis and take those 2 keyword terms and add 1-2 more deeper search terms and then make their page relevant and have the keyword content, title and subject headings (H1 tags) and then slowly start working your pages to rank.

They will tell us and our non Adult clients that it may take 3-6 months to get on page 1 or 2. Also even if you are # 1 you are never going to hold rank. Google looks for changes to keep rank and the big thing is that Google and the others are in business to provide a product people will trust and continue to use. People that mess with that are usually taught a lesson ie Blacklisted.

My Non-Adult 2 Cents Knowledge.
"

He then posted again agreeing with what he just posted since it was a quote and you agreed with him on it.

Let's do this..

I have a domain that I haven't done much with..
I'll open an account with a nicely converting sponsor.. just for this domain..
You do the seo stuff for it and we split 50/50 whatever is made on that site..

You better be prepaid to pay big bucks!!!!!

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"But this is serious, I am 110% positive I can do this. I warn you though, it would take a nice chunk of money to pull me away from my current projects (current setting up our big hosting project). From what I understand SEO work isn't something you price hourly.. hehe. "

Well personally I dont know if you can do what you say or not. I know that I cant do it. So hit me up on ICQ and you can explain what you want to try (not how). If it is something I can deal with maybe we can give it a shot
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Nbritte

Nice try - hinting that any one of us who questions you and who currently holds a page one listing has got it by unfair means.

Well cobber both my partner and I play by the rules, we always have and we have page one listings and have held those listings for months.

You on the other hand seem to be avoiding the question of just how many page one listings you really do have and that IMHO speaks volumes for your ability to achieve what you say you can.

Truer words have never been spoken by a man who THINKS he knows what he's doing.


BTW, $100/day for a number one listing on google for a keyword/phrase of your choice. I don't have the pages up yet but I know how to get them; 1 month's payment up front. Any takers?