Originally Posted by trollhunter (Post 17492361)

If this guy gets it, why can't everyone else?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...2959569136609#

He seems like a regular guy: Harley shirt, cap, etc. He gets the fact that the planes caused structural failure -- same words my mom used when we watched live on TV, btw...

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17492457)

obvious false flag. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by iMind (Post 17492627)

You know, I like " new " amp.

I dunno WTF happened in the last few years, I guess you found weed, but you're more grounded than most here now a days, quite the change from a few years ago man.

I hope you're not being sarcastic here, because I totally agree with you.

Obvious, and even if it wasn't a false flag, they've sure made the most of it.

Originally Posted by PornoStar69 (Post 17492608)

Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17492631)

Once a lunatic always a lunatic. I bet i can make him snap like he used to in minutes.

Originally Posted by GotGauge (Post 17492446)

http://www.nytimes.com/1975/02/14/nyregion/14WTC.html

It is all how you present the "FACTS"

Fire was mainly on one floor.
Was not hit by a huge object traveling at a decent speed.
Things are a Bit heaver at the top with the pull of gravity pancaking down.
Anyway, this point and time you will not change one persons mind on what happened.

Originally Posted by iMind (Post 17492627)

You know, I like " new " amp.

I dunno WTF happened in the last few years, I guess you found weed, but you're more grounded than most here now a days, quite the change from a few years ago man.

I hope you're not being sarcastic here, because I totally agree with you.

Obvious, and even if it wasn't a false flag, they've sure made the most of it.

Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17492631)

Once a lunatic always a lunatic. I bet i can make him snap like he used to in minutes.

Originally Posted by iMind (Post 17492659)

People have been saying that since Amp returned... and I've yet to see it.

I have a feeling Amp beat the man made evil named alcohol and switched it out for weed.
I'm a firm believer, and an example myself of how that can take someone to a better place.

When I was a drinker I was out of control, bat shit crazy, so I NEVER drink anymore.
When I was a pot smoker, I was happy, content and well... just happy.

I wish I still smoked sometimes.

Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 17492075)

Are you referring to those who think the American government was in on it or those who think the guys trained by the American government as the Mujahideen did it?

They've installed permanent military bases to protect the pipelines crossing the country, they've boosted the profits of Bush sr.'s Carlysle Group among many others, they've mega-boosted the production of heroin which had been quashed by the Taliban. Many other good reasons.

The CIA has been proven to use the profits of heroin trafficking to finance their secret operations, so that it doesn't even touch government budgets. Remember Iran/Contra.

It would be the first ever, and it didn't burn that long compared to others. The reason steel structured buildings predominate post industrial city building is their imperviousness to collapse due to fire, among other things.

Seems like they thought everyone would take their word for WMD's. But their reasons for invading changed over and over as the years and the proof, or lack thereof, came out.

Do concrete buildings stand up to fire?

Anyhow skyscrapers do, I didn't check that other link, but the Windsor in Madrid burned for 24 hours, throughout, and didn't collapse. Parts of it did collapse or fall off, but that was after about 17 hours. it took them almost a year to tear down the remains, much like the other damaged buildings of the WTC: 3, 4, 5 and 6.

How come people don't just set buildings on fire to demolish them instead of spending millions and even billions with demolition contractors? I mean, 9/11 proved three times that all it takes is a fire...

This is assuming that the Bushies themselves were involved, for which there's nothing but circumstantial proof. And saying they were is about as realistic as saying a bunch of Saudis co-ordinated by a sick dialysis patient in a desert was responsible. There were as many (documented in passenger manifests) government people and government contractors on those planes as there were (undocumented, unlisted) Saudis on those planes.

The main thing seems to be the way the buildings fell, and what was done with any investigation afterwards - well, there weren't investigations, but whatever.

:D

Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 17494564)

The pancaking seems ridiculous - it would have taken 10 times longer for one of the towers to fall and there would have been toppling or non-symmetrical events, but there weren't. Two differently damaged buildings fell exactly the same way - makes no sense, just on the basis of probability, disregarding the fact that fire doesn't bring down steel buildings.

Then there's building seven, which could win awards if there were such a thing for perfect, seamless demolition job.

:D

Originally Posted by GotGauge (Post 17494691)

You expect them to fall over? because they were pushed by wind?

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17490182)

I dont suppose you have ever heard of 4chan?

This is why you guys are dieing, you dont even know what an internet meme is.

Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 17494564)

The pancaking seems ridiculous - it would have taken 10 times longer for one of the towers to fall and there would have been toppling or non-symmetrical events, but there weren't. Two differently damaged buildings fell exactly the same way - makes no sense, just on the basis of probability, disregarding the fact that fire doesn't bring down steel buildings.

Then there's building seven, which could win awards if there were such a thing for perfect, seamless demolition job.

:D

Originally Posted by Jaeger (Post 17494783)

how come they didn't find any of the black boxes? i mean shit they are almost indestructable... this for me is the most curious, honestly im not sure if it was a conspiracy but i think it could have been there is a lot of dubiousness surrounding it....

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17494684)

All of your points are quickly and easily explained away... I'll reply to the comments about WTC 7, because that's my favorite.

You questioned WTC 7 falling, saying that it was "only on fire". You also said "Windsor in Madrid burned for 24 hours" but didn't fall. Both of these comments are full of holes. Part of the Windsor did collapse. And the Windsor didn't have two large skyscrapers fall nearly on top of it, removing one quarter of it's base. Your claiming WTC 7 fell because it was on fire, but it's more like it suffered two huge earthquakes, two huge towers falling nearly on top of, the building being removed off of it's foundation, a huge amount of it's support base being physically removed, AND it being on fire.

Originally Posted by GotGauge (Post 17494691)

You expect them to fall over? because they were pushed by wind?

Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17494785)

Jesus, you're retarded. 9 years later and this is what you come up with? Something that has been explained over and over again?

Fucking idiot.

Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 17492075)

The main thing seems to be the way the buildings fell, and what was done with any investigation afterwards - well, there weren't investigations, but whatever.

:D

Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 17494865)

Good argument. You've blown me away. Congrats.

:D

Originally Posted by Emil (Post 17491246)

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/wo...10beijing.html

After-pic:
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/other_...ther_fires.htm

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17494869)

are you fucking kidding me?


There was no need to investigate how the buildings fell. It was captured on video what happened, a plane flew into the building, took out several floors, building caught fire then collapsed couple hours later . What the fuck is there to investigate ?

Why?? it didn't fall the way you conspiracy idiots thought it should fall? How many times has a plane crashed into a building and you watched it fall? how the fuck do you know how its suppose to fall ??

What is more logical, the govt did piss poor job protecting us, it really was terrorist who really do hate us and wanted to try to kill us, that when the plane crashed into the building it took out a lot of the supporting structure, weakening it, then the intense fire was enough to cause it to collapse... or

it was all planned, they had explosives planted in the building and controlled the planes.

If this was planned why in the hell would they blow up the buildings, you don't think crashing two planes into them wouldn't have been enough. Why didn't they blow up the pentagon too ? It would have still killed 100s if not thousands of people even if the building didn't fall. It would still have gotten 100% of the country behind whatever Bush wanted to do...

It is fine to question govt but at some point if your common sense gets over powered by your retard side, you need to stop and get your head on straight and look at this shit logically and not get caught up with all the other crazies.

Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17494911)

Here's my argument you fucking idiot.

http://wtc.nist.gov/NCSTAR1/PDF/NCSTAR%201A.pdf

But i bet you won't read it because you have no need for an official investigation full of facts.

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17494928)

this only proves that in other countries they know how to build skyscrapers :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17494940)

1. planes don't "vaporize".
2. no investigation required for the mass murder of thousands of people? okay champ.

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17495008)

don't be a fucking total moron, mm'kay? you can be a partial one if you want. I never said they shouldn't do an investigation into 911. I said there was no need to investigate what happened to the buildings. Sure they should investigate 911 so we can beef up our security and not allow terrorist to hijack planes and fly them into buildings again.



the conspiracy theorist all have 1 thing in common, they are either rejects, morons, or anti govt types... there is a reason why the conspiracy idiots are on the fringe of society, they gravitate there. Find me 1 normal intelligent person that believes this shit i will find you 100 nutjobs.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17495014)

none of that negates the fact that entire commercial airplanes do not "vaporize".

where are they? not a single piece? 4 planes and not...... one....... piece?

Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17495022)

What are you trying to say fucking lunatic? That there were no planes? What?

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17495025)

i'm saying what i've already said. it was a false flag operation.

Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17495040)

I can't understand how people expect a building to come down other than well, coming down, collapsing on it's on weight. What else is it supposed to do?

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17495050)

i'm certain there are many things you do not understand.

Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17495057)

Says the idiot who's brain has been permantly damaged by alcohol and meds. And you weren't born exactly smart to start with it.

So tell me, there were no planes?

Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17495064)

Amputate your head. One of the biggest idiots ever on gfy. A tiny weird looking asshat with a funny voice who spent half his life talking nonsense because he was drunk 24/7. A total fucking loser from the day his mom shat him out. I would feel sorry for you and your shitty life if you wouldn't be such an asshole.

Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17495081)

What's the problem midget? Can't answer a simply question? Are you afraid to say it out loud that there were no planes because people will think you're an even bigger moron than they already thought you are?

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17495119)

http://brokenzombie.com/junk_bin/gfy...d_commando.jpg

:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17495133)

So tell me, are you saying there were no planes?

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17495136)

lol, fuck off douche. i don't owe you jack. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17494869)

are you fucking kidding me?

There was no need to investigate how the buildings fell. It was captured on video what happened, a plane flew into the building, took out several floors, building caught fire then collapsed couple hours later . What the fuck is there to investigate ?

Why?? it didn't fall the way you conspiracy idiots thought it should fall? How many times has a plane crashed into a building and you watched it fall? how the fuck do you know how its suppose to fall ??

What is more logical, the govt did piss poor job protecting us, it really was terrorist who really do hate us and wanted to try to kill us, that when the plane crashed into the building it took out a lot of the supporting structure, weakening it, then the intense fire was enough to cause it to collapse... or

it was all planned, they had explosives planted in the building and controlled the planes.

If this was planned why in the hell would they blow up the buildings, you don't think crashing two planes into them wouldn't have been enough. Why didn't they blow up the pentagon too ? It would have still killed 100s if not thousands of people even if the building didn't fall. It would still have gotten 100% of the country behind whatever Bush wanted to do...

It is fine to question govt but at some point if your common sense gets over powered by your retard side, you need to stop and get your head on straight and look at this shit logically and not get caught up with all the other crazies.

Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17495081)

What's the problem midget? Can't answer a simply question? Are you afraid to say it out loud that there were no planes because people will think you're an even bigger moron than they already thought you are?

Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 17495200)

Wow ... retards unite!

You believe that 9/11 was an inside job because of some videos you saw on the internet. The net is a wonderful resource, but it sure has helped dumb down a significant segment of the population.

Lemme guess .. most of you easily led idiots think the moon landing was fake, the holocaust? Hell I bet if a good enough video was put together you would start to question whether world war 1 and 2 happened.

Originally Posted by opflix (Post 17495215)

people who believe everything they see/read, will always be that way, there's no helping (unplugging) them. most people who don't consider the POSSIBILITY that it was an inside operation are not interested in actually finding truth. perception is reality for 99% of the human population and if you're in the 1%, you're free and to me... nothing is more valuable.

Originally Posted by The Trash Heap (Post 17495184)

I think it's safe to say that Amp is still totally fucked in his head. And that will probably never change.

Originally Posted by iMind (Post 17492633)

Dude, you wanna know why anyone that questions the original story is considered bat shit crazy ?

It's cause of sensationalistic retards like you.

Stop listening to Alex jones, and get real.

I question the story, like many others, but EVERY time you post, I think you're a fuckin idiot.

Originally Posted by dejan (Post 17494854)

i don't remember did they found black boxes but i remember they found hijackers passports... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh sorry can't find the article google it...

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17494940)

1. planes don't "vaporize".
2. no investigation required for the mass murder of thousands of people? okay champ.