Payoneer the only alternative , some questions here.. - GoFuckYourself.com

Tapaz · 09-10-2010, 11:04 AM

I just looked around and found out payoneer is the only alternative at epass. So well I opened one with a ID number. Semms that the only thing needed is this one beside your address and general data . So there are many differences from e pass.. and I also foind this statement in their FAQ's :

This card allows a total limit of $10,000. A daily spending limit is set at $5,000. Daily cash withdrawal limit, both at ATM and bank teller, is set to $2,500. Example: After making a $1,500 cash withdrawal, the card can be used for a POS purchase of up to $2,500 within the same day.

10.000 month or ???? I cant understand ... also do we need to send them any document ? i didnt got my card yet and not activated it yet so I dont know if they are going to ask me further documents... some one can answer me ? Could be nice to have some official representer here on our board.

mizmiz · 09-10-2010, 11:33 AM

Now all we need is to all sponsors to start paying using payoneer

chronig · 09-10-2010, 11:37 AM

okpay.com also looks good

ajrocks · 09-10-2010, 12:47 PM

We need affiliates to decide what they want to be paid by. Everyone wants Pay Pal so far which is nuts because they don't do adult business. If enough people stand behind it, thats what will be used. Right now there are too many options being tossed around. Affiliate programs have no idea which to go with to make the most affiliates happy at this point

2intense · 09-10-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by chronig

okpay.com also looks good

yes looks very good

2intense · 09-10-2010, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mizmiz

Now all we need is to all sponsors to start paying using payoneer

most of them start already

mikke · 09-10-2010, 12:55 PM

okpay looks pretty good!!

PGR · 09-10-2010, 01:15 PM

Well I just signed up for a Payoneer account via Pussycash. Hopefully it doesn't take too long to receive my debit card.

2intense · 09-10-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by P.G.R.

Well I just signed up for a Payoneer account via Pussycash. Hopefully it doesn't take too long to receive my debit card.

Please note that it can take up to 10 business days to receive the Prepaid debit MasterCard card within the U.S. and up to 25 business days for delivery outside of the U.S.

DaddyzHome · 09-10-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ajrocks

We need affiliates to decide what they want to be paid by. Everyone wants Pay Pal so far which is nuts because they don't do adult business. If enough people stand behind it, thats what will be used.

Are you sure? Thought they changed their terms awhile back. Nothing on their acceptable use policy or user agreement states adult transactions are not allowed.

Paypal Acceptable Use Policy

Paypal User Agreement; Restricted Activities

baddog · 09-10-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tapaz

This card allows a total limit of $10,000.

I would take it to mean that it is a pre-loaded card that can not be loaded with more than a cumulative total of $10k.

What was unclear to me is if each sponsor would have to give you their own card. So if you used 25 sponsors, you would have 25 cards. Maybe someone can answer that question.

CaptainHowdy · 09-10-2010, 01:23 PM

I want one

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baddog · 09-10-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ajrocks

We need affiliates to decide what they want to be paid by. Everyone wants Pay Pal so far which is nuts because they don't do adult business. If enough people stand behind it, thats what will be used. Right now there are too many options being tossed around. Affiliate programs have no idea which to go with to make the most affiliates happy at this point

I don't think you can sell porn with paypal, but you might be able to pay affiliates with it. At least, that is the impression I am left with.

Klen · 09-10-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ajrocks

We need affiliates to decide what they want to be paid by. Everyone wants Pay Pal so far which is nuts because they don't do adult business. If enough people stand behind it, thats what will be used. Right now there are too many options being tossed around. Affiliate programs have no idea which to go with to make the most affiliates happy at this point

Well i dont want to be paid to paypal

But you can use paypal if you get special permission from them,ask dukedollars how they did it,i received payment from them on paypal and there was no any problem.

spacedog · 09-10-2010, 01:40 PM

There's a thread somewhere here where user asked sponsor X if he can get paid from them using payoneer on card he got from sponsor Y. The answer was NO, because the acct was from sponsor X and not sponsor Y..

SO.. how does this payoneer work if payout can only be from single program?

Is this single program limit still applicable if I sign up for my own card instead of via cash program?

PGR · 09-10-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog

There's a thread somewhere here where user asked sponsor X if he can get paid from them using payoneer on card he got from sponsor Y. The answer was NO, because the acct was from sponsor X and not sponsor Y..

SO.. how does this payoneer work if payout can only be from single program?

Is this single program limit still applicable if I sign up for my own card instead of via cash program?

Surely there is a way to link multiple sponsors to a single card?

baddog · 09-10-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by P.G.R.

Surely there is a way to link multiple sponsors to a single card?

Why surely?

Darkcrni · 09-10-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mikke

okpay looks pretty good!!

They are doing offshore gambling, i think!

So its out of the question for anyone in the US!!!

ContentPimp · 09-10-2010, 01:51 PM

Payoneer has really high fees okPay looks better

PGR · 09-10-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Why surely?

Why do you have to be a dick?

PGR · 09-10-2010, 01:53 PM

It seems like there is a way to link sponsors to a single card, but you have to input your card number, and since I don't have one yet, I can't try it.

baddog · 09-10-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by P.G.R.

Why do you have to be a dick?

I asked you a simple question. Why not answer it since you are so sure?

nikki99 · 09-10-2010, 02:24 PM

burrrrp, sorry....

livesexoncams · 09-10-2010, 02:32 PM

Indeed, payoneer fees are a bit higher than epassporte, but it seems that most of the sponsors are starting to be able to send payoneer payments. Also, payoneer is in business for quite a while, even if, from my understanding, the card are issued by a quite obscure bank.

Dreamteam · 09-10-2010, 02:34 PM

okpay = "MAX" $5000 total balance

WAAY too low ...

Even $10.000 (payoneer) is too low

..

halfpint · 09-10-2010, 02:37 PM

I have a payoneer card which I signed up for when it first came out and was under the impression that it worked the same way as epass with sponsors, but looking at the card it actually has the sponsers name on the front of the card, so I guess it can only be used for that specific sponsor

The Payoneers card is also not Visa its Master Card

I have never yet used it still to this day cause I always used epass

bolsex · 09-10-2010, 02:39 PM

Yeah! Payoneer fees are high, but I think that its less expensive for international webmasters than get a Wire or Check.

People can use the same card with +1 sponsor (I did, I linked FriendFinder, Gamma, PussyCash to the same card issued thro AWE).

The daily limit is great! $2.500 for ATM and $2.500 for purchases! Its about 8 times more than the standard epass account.
Documents are not required. At least they didnt requested me anything.

And I think that the $10k limit is not monthly, I think is not allowed to get +10k at the same time loaded on the card!

Damian

baddog · 09-10-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreamteam

okpay = "MAX" $5000 total balance

WAAY too low ...

Even $10.000 (payoneer) is too low

..

For people that want to use it as a bank, there will be a problem. Of course, that is what got a lot of people in their current situation, but they do not see it that way.

bolsex · 09-10-2010, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint

I have a payoneer card which I signed up for when it first came out and was under the impression that it worked the same way as epass with sponsors, but looking at the card it actually has the sponsers name on the front of the card, so I guess it can only be used for that specific sponsor

The Payoneers card is also not Visa its Master Card

I have never yet used it still to this day cause I always used epass

Did you get the new payoneer card?
They changed the bank (or something like that) and changed all co-branded / sponsored cards for a new standard with the logo of Choice Bank LTD.

halfpint · 09-10-2010, 02:42 PM

This kinda bothered me when they did not ask for ID. Will this end the same as epass ?

bolsex · 09-10-2010, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint

This kinda bothered me when they did not ask for ID. Will this end the same as epass ?

This bothered me too! I remember some years ago when you was allowed to get a mastercard debit card, sometimes with name, sometimes offshore, without any ID and where you put +10k from AlertPay, eGold, etc...

All these companies/banks are now out of business!

halfpint · 09-10-2010, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bolsex

Did you get the new payoneer card?
They changed the bank (or something like that) and changed all co-branded / sponsored cards for a new standard with the logo of Choice Bank LTD.

No I havent as mine only runs out in 2011 so I guess I will get the new card then

Dreamteam · 09-10-2010, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

For people that want to use it as a bank, there will be a problem. Of course, that is what got a lot of people in their current situation, but they do not see it that way.

So when a sponsor wants to pay me $14.000 for this month payout then it is a "no no" ??
Don't tell me that for those amounts I need to ask for a wire. I want to make my own choices.

2intense · 09-10-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint

so I guess it can only be used for that specific sponsor

nope,1 card is enough

nikki99 · 09-10-2010, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint

this kinda bothered me when they did not ask for id. Will this end the same as epass ?

yes.............

bolsex · 09-10-2010, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint

No I havent as mine only runs out in 2011 so I guess I will get the new card then

mmm hope it works too, Im not sure. I got mine in March and a few weeks later I got an email telling me about the new card.

You can login to your account, and check if the Card number is Ok or is red. If is red maybe you need to contact customer service!
If you got the card recently so I think it will work.

bolsex · 09-10-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreamteam

So when a sponsor wants to pay me $14.000 for this month payout then it is a "no no" ??
Don't tell me that for those amounts I need to ask for a wire. I want to make my own choices.

This is a good question. I will submit a support ticket with this question. I think they will not refuse the load.

baddog · 09-10-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreamteam

So when a sponsor wants to pay me $14.000 for this month payout then it is a "no no" ??
Don't tell me that for those amounts I need to ask for a wire. I want to make my own choices.

You will have to ask them rather than relying on speculation from me or any other GFYer. But the way I read it, you could not get $14k in one deposit.

The way I read it is that if you had a card balance of $5k and a sponsor wanted to add $14k to it, they could only add $5k, which would bring you to the max, $10k limit.

halfpint · 09-10-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bolsex

This bothered me too! I remember some years ago when you was allowed to get a mastercard debit card, sometimes with name, sometimes offshore, without any ID and where you put +10k from AlertPay, eGold, etc...

All these companies/banks are now out of business!

Yep... I have nothing at all against payoneer but that did just kinda seem strange not needing any ID

fuzebox · 09-10-2010, 03:05 PM

Yes, you can link several sponsors on one card, when you click through to payoneer to signup for a new card with your second sponsor, there will be a link saying "click here if you already have a payoneer card".

As for holding over $10k on the card at a given time... Come on people, use wire transfers. Don't want it in your USA bank? Open an offshore account. It's not difficult or even expensive, and at least your money will be with a real big-boy bank.

2intense · 09-10-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Yes, you can link several sponsors on one card, when you click through to payoneer to signup for a new card with your second sponsor, there will be a link saying "click here if you already have a payoneer card".

correct

FighterSpirit · 09-10-2010, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by P.G.R.

Surely there is a way to link multiple sponsors to a single card?

yes, I am paid with few aff programs to 1 payoneer card

you need just to link them to your card

easy thing

baddog · 09-10-2010, 03:36 PM

Thanks for the clarification on the multiple inputs. Regarding loading, is the load max whatever brings the account balance to $10K?

Is p2p allowed?

freehotphonesexcom · 09-10-2010, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyzHome

Are you sure? Thought they changed their terms awhile back. Nothing on their acceptable use policy or user agreement states adult transactions are not allowed.

It's in the "Acceptable Use Policy". A separate agreement See 2G of that policy (I can't link since I'm a new member).

"You may not use the PayPal service for activities that:

1.violate any law, statute, ordinance or regulation

2.relate to sales of (a) narcotics, steroids, certain controlled substances or other products that present a risk to consumer safety, (b) drug paraphernalia, (c) items that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity, (d) items that promote hate, violence, racial intolerance, or the financial exploitation of a crime, (e) items that are considered obscene, (f) items that infringe or violate any copyright, trademark, right of publicity or privacy or any other proprietary right under the laws of any jurisdiction, (g) certain sexually oriented materials or services, or (h) ammunition, firearms, or certain firearm parts or accessories, or (i) ,certain weapons or knives regulated under applicable law"

They DO allow you to use Paypal for eBay related adult transactions. That might've been the change you are referring to.

baddog · 09-10-2010, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by freehotphonesexcom

I(e) items that are considered obscene,

What is obscene about a sponsor paying an affiliate? You can not sell porn via PP, but from what that says, I bet if a sponsor contacted PP they could get the green light. It sounds like others have.

halfpint · 09-10-2010, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

What is obscene about a sponsor paying an affiliate? You can not sell porn via PP, but from what that says, I bet if a sponsor contacted PP they could get the green light. It sounds like others have.

well I had my paypal account locked becuase the buyer put a porn link in the transaction they froze his account and mine for breaking their TOS according to them

Rick Diculous · 09-10-2010, 05:17 PM

Is this card available to canadian webmasters?

Alprazolam · 09-10-2010, 05:17 PM

its not an alternative. for many reasons.

california · 09-10-2010, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Alprazolam

its not an alternative. for many reasons.

why not?

baddog · 09-10-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint

well I had my paypal account locked becuase the buyer put a porn link in the transaction they froze his account and mine for breaking their TOS according to them

That is why I have continually said, in one form or another, "I bet if a sponsor contacted PP . . . "

09-10-2010, 11:04 AM	#1
Tapaz Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CamCity Posts: 1,745	Payoneer the only alternative , some questions here.. I just looked around and found out payoneer is the only alternative at epass. So well I opened one with a ID number. Semms that the only thing needed is this one beside your address and general data . So there are many differences from e pass.. and I also foind this statement in their FAQ's : This card allows a total limit of $10,000. A daily spending limit is set at $5,000. Daily cash withdrawal limit, both at ATM and bank teller, is set to $2,500. Example: After making a $1,500 cash withdrawal, the card can be used for a POS purchase of up to $2,500 within the same day. 10.000 month or ???? I cant understand ... also do we need to send them any document ? i didnt got my card yet and not activated it yet so I dont know if they are going to ask me further documents... some one can answer me ? Could be nice to have some official representer here on our board.

09-10-2010, 12:47 PM	#4
ajrocks Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: On Uranus Posts: 4,526	We need affiliates to decide what they want to be paid by. Everyone wants Pay Pal so far which is nuts because they don't do adult business. If enough people stand behind it, thats what will be used. Right now there are too many options being tossed around. Affiliate programs have no idea which to go with to make the most affiliates happy at this point __________________ SEO Strategy - Digital Strategy - Cannabis Lead Generation Skype aj.durden1

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09-10-2010, 11:33 AM	#2
mizmiz So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Holly Place Posts: 1,168	Now all we need is to all sponsors to start paying using payoneer

09-10-2010, 11:37 AM	#3
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09-10-2010, 01:15 PM	#8
PGR Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,753	Well I just signed up for a Payoneer account via Pussycash. Hopefully it doesn't take too long to receive my debit card.

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09-10-2010, 01:40 PM	#15
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	There's a thread somewhere here where user asked sponsor X if he can get paid from them using payoneer on card he got from sponsor Y. The answer was NO, because the acct was from sponsor X and not sponsor Y.. SO.. how does this payoneer work if payout can only be from single program? Is this single program limit still applicable if I sign up for my own card instead of via cash program?

09-10-2010, 01:53 PM	#21
PGR Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,753	It seems like there is a way to link sponsors to a single card, but you have to input your card number, and since I don't have one yet, I can't try it.

09-10-2010, 02:32 PM	#24
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09-10-2010, 02:34 PM	#25
Dreamteam Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 472	okpay = "MAX" $5000 total balance WAAY too low ... Even $10.000 (payoneer) is too low .. Last edited by Dreamteam; 09-10-2010 at 02:36 PM..

09-10-2010, 02:37 PM	#26
halfpint GFY's Halfpint Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Posts: 15,223	I have a payoneer card which I signed up for when it first came out and was under the impression that it worked the same way as epass with sponsors, but looking at the card it actually has the sponsers name on the front of the card, so I guess it can only be used for that specific sponsor The Payoneers card is also not Visa its Master Card I have never yet used it still to this day cause I always used epass __________________ Get FREE website listings on Cryptocoinshops.net Last edited by halfpint; 09-10-2010 at 02:38 PM..

09-10-2010, 02:39 PM	#27
bolsex Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 717	Yeah! Payoneer fees are high, but I think that its less expensive for international webmasters than get a Wire or Check. People can use the same card with +1 sponsor (I did, I linked FriendFinder, Gamma, PussyCash to the same card issued thro AWE). The daily limit is great! $2.500 for ATM and $2.500 for purchases! Its about 8 times more than the standard epass account. Documents are not required. At least they didnt requested me anything. And I think that the $10k limit is not monthly, I think is not allowed to get +10k at the same time loaded on the card! Damian

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09-10-2010, 03:05 PM	#40
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,119	Yes, you can link several sponsors on one card, when you click through to payoneer to signup for a new card with your second sponsor, there will be a link saying "click here if you already have a payoneer card". As for holding over $10k on the card at a given time... Come on people, use wire transfers. Don't want it in your USA bank? Open an offshore account. It's not difficult or even expensive, and at least your money will be with a real big-boy bank.

09-10-2010, 03:36 PM	#43
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Thanks for the clarification on the multiple inputs. Regarding loading, is the load max whatever brings the account balance to $10K? Is p2p allowed?

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09-10-2010, 05:17 PM	#48
Alprazolam So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 864	its not an alternative. for many reasons.