Obama banning gun ammunition

[cambaby]

Seriously Im not making this up, the Obama administration is trying to BAN lead bullets. I sure "hope" they "change" their mind, imagine the costs to the police nationwide not to mention hunters and private citizens.
http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/epa-...an-led-bullets

[pornstar2fag]

i don't know about you, but i always get my news from sites that don't know how to spell "lead" in their slugs

[baddog]

never mind

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by baddog

never mind

look at the URL "epa-reviewing-request-ban-led-bullets"
http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/epa-...an-led-bullets

[Amputate Your Head]

Lead is poisonous and harmful to humans. A less toxic bullet would be wise.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by SBJ

look at the URL "epa-reviewing-request-ban-led-bullets"
http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/epa-...an-led-bullets

Yeah, I spotted what he was talking about after I hit submit. Not sure why he did not mention the spelling of beleaguered. That is what I first noticed.

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Lead is poisonous and harmful to humans. A less toxic bullet would be wise.

but at twice the cost would not be wise.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by SBJ

but at twice the cost would not be wise.

Still wise.

Or would you prefer paying the medical bills of every lead poisoned police officer for the rest of their lives?

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by baddog

Yeah, I spotted what he was talking about after I hit submit. Not sure why he did not mention the spelling of beleaguered. That is what I first noticed.

yeah I saw you spotted it right after I hit submit but didn't feel like editing my post too

[TheDoc]

So it's not Obama at all.. another lame article.

I wonder how they will enforce banning lead when I can press my own rounds?

[cambaby]

You guys act as if this isnt a true story? Are you not worried about your taxes going up because your local police department will have to buy non-toxic bullets, which is a fucking joke anyways I mean you usually shoot to kill when you do shoot.


Fucking idiots cant get by an automated slug you are so willing to pay extra taxes?

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

So it's not Obama at all.. another lame article.

I wonder how they will enforce banning lead when I can press my own rounds?

Same way they eliminated the use of R-12... phase it out over time until it's simply no longer available.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by cambaby

Seriously Im not making this up, the Obama administration is trying to BAN lead bullets. I sure "hope" they "change" their mind, imagine the costs to the police nationwide not to mention hunters and private citizens.
http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/epa-...an-led-bullets

no big deal... ammo is switching from lead to composite materials anyway.

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

So it's not Obama at all.. another lame article.

I wonder how they will enforce banning lead when I can press my own rounds?

EPA http://www.epa.gov/
http://politics.usnews.com/news/obam...regulator.html

ITS OBAMAS FUCKING appointee.

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

no big deal... ammo is switching from lead to composite materials anyway.

????? MORE TAXES TO PAY FOR MORE EXPENSIVE BULLETS ????
No big deal to you? What the fuck is wrong with you people.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by cambaby

You guys act as if this isnt a true story? Are you not worried about your taxes going up because your local police department will have to buy non-toxic bullets, which is a fucking joke anyways I mean you usually shoot to kill when you do shoot.


Fucking idiots cant get by an automated slug you are so willing to pay extra taxes?

The non-toxic part isn't for the target of the rounds you knucklehead, it's for the users. You are currently paying for every Gulf War veteran who was exposed to depleted uranium in Desert Storm. Depleted uranium was added to rounds and ammo to enhance the killing effectiveness, and exposed every user in the process. Do you know how long you will be paying for that through your tax dollars? Until every last soldier exposed is dead and gone.

I was one of them, and I'm not going anywhere... so keep forking it over cambaby.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Same way they eliminated the use of R-12... phase it out over time until it's simply no longer available.

You can buy a pound of pure lead in a block for about $3... It takes like an hour to make 100 reloaded rounds.

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Lead is poisonous and harmful to humans. A less toxic bullet would be wise.

Unless people are going round licking them I wouldn't have thought it mattered.

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

The non-toxic part isn't for the target of the rounds you knucklehead, it's for the users.

What the fuck are you gonna swallow one?

[cambaby]

Its just another liberal way to subvert the second amendment.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by cambaby

What the fuck are you gonna swallow one?

Unless rounds load themselves into magazines now, you still have to touch every single one of them, and in a profession that deals with live ammo on a daily basis, that adds up over time. It's not like touching one round is going to kill you, (or one x-ray, or huffing one can of spray paint) but you touch the shit long enough you get lead poisoning. Do you think they stopped putting lead in things like gasoline and paint just arbitrarily?

[pacrim]

Most law enforcement don't use led bullets. So stop bitching since you didn't know. Plus most gun ranges don't let you use led bullet. As an owner of a gun, I wouldn't want to use that crap.

[atom]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Unless people are going round licking them I wouldn't have thought it mattered.

pretty much. I use lead for clay pigeons, high velocity steel shot for actual hunting.

as much as I am tempted to eat a bullet when taking a lunch break, I am scared that when i try and disassemble the shell it will go off and either take my nipples or schwang with it.

[ThunderBalls]

I believe everybody in the world should have guns. Citizens should have bazookas and rocket launchers too. I believe that all citizens should have their weapons of choice. However, I also believe that only I should have the ammunition. Because frankly, I dont trust the rest of these whackjobs with anything more dangerous than string.

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by cambaby

????? MORE TAXES TO PAY FOR MORE EXPENSIVE BULLETS ????
No big deal to you? What the fuck is wrong with you people.

Yeah, taxes on ammunition - that's what keeps me lying awake at night. </sarcasm>

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by ThunderBalls

I believe everybody in the world should have guns. Citizens should have bazookas and rocket launchers too. I believe that all citizens should have their weapons of choice. However, I also believe that only I should have the ammunition. Because frankly, I dont trust the rest of these whackjobs with anything more dangerous than string.

String is actually my weapon of choice. Small & lightweight, fits in any pocket of course with room to spare, is silent, and is perfect for a choking kill just about anywhere as well as being a handy multi-tool, a source of entertainment during bored downtime, and even a meal if necessary.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Same way they eliminated the use of R-12... phase it out over time until it's simply no longer available.

LOL, I got a case of that stuff still

Originally Posted by bm bradley

no big deal... ammo is switching from lead to composite materials anyway.

Yeah, the cops will love that, composite bullets go right thru their vests

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Unless rounds load themselves into magazines now, you still have to touch every single one of them, and in a profession that deals with live ammo on a daily basis, that adds up over time. It's not like touching one round is going to kill you, (or one x-ray, or huffing one can of spray paint) but you touch the shit long enough you get lead poisoning. Do you think they stopped putting lead in things like gasoline and paint just arbitrarily?

Go to any gun range and look at the range guns, they don't clean them , it's because of the lead and the cleaning chemicals. I wear gloves when I clean my guns. I use ball bearings in my flint locks

[icymelon]

here we go again

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Unless rounds load themselves into magazines now, you still have to touch every single one of them, and in a profession that deals with live ammo on a daily basis, that adds up over time. It's not like touching one round is going to kill you, (or one x-ray, or huffing one can of spray paint) but you touch the shit long enough you get lead poisoning. Do you think they stopped putting lead in things like gasoline and paint just arbitrarily?

Most rounds are coated... however lead poisoning can happen if you get shot, normally if the bullet or fragments are left in the person for long periods of time. As we know, not only criminals get shot and anything near a major organ can't be removed.

As well.. some lead shotgun rounds are now illegal, like in the early 90's or about that, don't quote me on that. But many other Countries (I think America has a few minor restrictions) have various types of lead banned, from personal use to hunting. Lead poisoning in animals from rounds (often shotgun) has been widely documented too.

While I don't really agree with a ban, I do think trying to replace lead with something that is comparable in cost and has the supply made to take over, could work.

[2012]

good luck with that

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

String is actually my weapon of choice. Small & lightweight, fits in any pocket of course with room to spare, is silent, and is perfect for a choking kill just about anywhere as well as being a handy multi-tool, a source of entertainment during bored downtime, and even a meal if necessary.

I find it's always a tangled mess when you want to throttle someone with it though.

[american pervert]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Lead is poisonous and harmful to humans. A less toxic bullet would be wise.

yeah, if you get shot by it.

lead shot has no effect on the environment via leaching. the only way animals get lead poisoning is if they swallow the pellets or if they are shot and not killed.

you would have to handled a shit ton of ammo to even have a trace amount of lead in your system and anyone who does handle that much most likely wears gloves.

so if the same tards that are eating paint chips are sucking on lead rounds, well, they are asking for it.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by cambaby

????? MORE TAXES TO PAY FOR MORE EXPENSIVE BULLETS ????
No big deal to you? What the fuck is wrong with you people.

too many issues with lead these days

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Yeah, the cops will love that, composite bullets go right thru their vests

whoops!!!!!

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by american pervert

yeah, if you get shot by it.

lead shot has no effect on the environment via leaching. the only way animals get lead poisoning is if they swallow the pellets or if they are shot and not killed.

you would have to handled a shit ton of ammo to even have a trace amount of lead in your system and anyone who does handle that much most likely wears gloves.

so if the same tards that are eating paint chips are sucking on lead rounds, well, they are asking for it.

But those tards are the same ones that now have requirements for warning labels on just about everything from maternity pajamas to cotton swabs. Maybe they could just slap a warning label on each round: "Sucking lead rounds like Altoids may cause brain damage, assuming you can still read this label."

[Tom_PM]

So he's not banning gun ammunition. He's making it safer lmfao.

[DateDoc]

Guess we wont have lead fishing weights soon either.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by DateDoc

Guess we wont have lead fishing weights soon either.

I haven't gone fishing since I was ten years old... because of the lead weights.

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by DateDoc

Guess we wont have lead fishing weights soon either.

Think they have been banned here for years.

[onwebcam]

So do we have to change the saying "I'll pump some lead in his ass?"

[Amputate Your Head]

Isn't the phrase "Eat lead" pretty much the be-all end-all motto of every gun toting wannabe Clint Eastwood?

"Eat lead"

think of the children!

[Vendzilla]

LMAO

[jimmy-3-way]

Originally Posted by SBJ

but at twice the cost would not be wise.

My favorite conservative argument ever: yes it's good, but it costs more , so fuck it.

[damnage]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

So do we have to change the saying "I'll pump some COM....posite in his ass?"

Trust a liberal to make it sound gay.








jk

[Amputate Your Head]

We should go back to the bow & arrow days, and the throwing hatchets like Dr. Quinn's gay friend.

[Rochard]

Sorry, they aren't banning ammo. They are banning lead in ammo. Big difference there. Sounds about as harmless as banning paint with lead in them.

[Bill8]

As a longtime hunter, I'm sure all the hunters here have been aware of the lead bullet controversy for at least the last 40 years.

Hell I started reading about the desireability of changed from lead bullets when I was fucking ten years old.

It's a complex issue. We have sprayed lead all over the forests for a long time. I've certainly sent my share of it downrange.

Presented the way it is, this is just more teabagger wharrgarbl sprayed by our resident bag preacher.

But, for hunters and shooters, it's still a serious issue that has to be discussed. Lead has some very desireable characteristics for bullets and shot, but it is also a very long lasting neurotoxin.

[bronco67]

Whenever I get shot, I definitely don't appreciate the lead poisoning I get from it.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

no big deal... ammo is switching from lead to composite materials anyway.

exactly, you haven't been able to use lead shot in yoru shotguns for ages now, slowly things will make their way away from lead anyhow. big fucking woop.

[Vendzilla]

Just found out that the ban will not go into effect,
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/outp...ition-ban.html