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				All I did at the AVN Show was...
			 
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		 I had plenty of meetings at Tootsies. Blondes, brunettes, latinos. Tons of meetings. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 Got ya! "New" as in you had never had a chance to meet up with them before, but this show gave you that opportunity. Exactly what a show should do. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Yeah not just ones that have been around. Additionally, a few companies who had admittedly just stepped into the market. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 Not trying to steal any business...just looking for some positive real news from the show that isn't the usual "business got done and I closed 50 deals" stuff that we all say. lol Who are the new companies, and on a side note...are they INSANE for starting new in this business at this time??? I mean, are they in the paysite end, free site end (which both would interest you I'd say), or are they toy companies? VOD? Come on man! Name names and turn this into a real business thread. We need one!  | 
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		 I got five orders for a turnkey site/blog at 1500.00 a piece. Thank You AVN not. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 And no I don't think anyone is insane, I think now is the perfect time to start for any innovative company with fresh ideas. It's times like these when the innovation is sparked.  | 
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 They are gonna have to come up with something better than 3d, content delivery, and the other things I've read people saying to beat the "Free" when their entire members area is stolen and posted up on rapidshare. The only things I see anybody being able to do is member interaction (can't be stolen). And that's not innovative at all. Matter of fact, "innovative" isn't really that big of an equation at this point is it? In the big picture, porn is porn. If you have a hot girl with a big fan base, a big personality, and the smarts to market her and deliver the goods...then you have the winning formula. I'll be real interested to see if anybody comes up with any innovations that can make a guy cum better when he watches porn. But it's always kinda cool to see if somebody can really come up with something new that is still going to do the real function that porn does. I'd still wonder why anybody would want to step into a biz that is so hurt by piracy though. Unless it's webcams or toys or some other non-steal-able product. They might just innovate themselves right back out the door unless they are real good. Especially when competing with experienced guys who already know how to do this. Takes some big balls I suppose. What were the attitudes of the new companies owners when they saw the show? Were they a little disappointed by there not being a lot of "sizzle" with the steak? I know back when I went to my first show in the 90's I was dazzled by it all. Couldn't believe what I was seeing and how much money was involved in the show floor at the Sands Expo It inspired me to get up on that level. These new guys are basically taking a leap of faith here without much proof that it's worth it. Pretty ballsy move! ![]()  | 
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 I don't think 3D (or things of that nature) is the future at all. And free is hard to beat. But it's not impossible. I disagree with genuine "member interaction" as being non-innovative. There is always room for improvement in any case. Great foresight is a hard thing to produce, hindsight is a breeze. I am involved with another adult startup company (launching within the next 30 days, you will see), and what we are developing is definitely expanding the boundaries of "the box" (thinking outside of the box is impossible, it's a vacuum). But being on the edge and expanding possibilities is doable. Quote: 
	
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 It appears these days there's a lot of "hobby" investors about to spend their retirement funds as they are unemployed or have a good idea, as well as a couple of bigger investors working various projects. I've seen some pretty amazing plans out there the past 6 months If you are looking for affiliates and such your best bet is probably the shows that's organised by 1-2 people, such as barcelona, qwebec, cybernet etc. 
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		 Good hanging out with you DJ, you were busting your ass at this show and I'm glad you have some good things lined up. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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