Cancer Cells Use Fructose to Grow!

[BFT3K]

High fructose corn syrup linked to many health issues.

Full story here...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_1...-10391704.html

[alias]

Ain't that some shit, not good news for the average American.

[Ethersync]

Fructose in bad news.

[2012]

can you imagine how many old people would be around right now sucking the system dryer then a bank bailout if they didn't poison us a little to keep the population down

[Ayla_SquareTurtle]

I cut that crap out of my diet a couple of years ago because I didn't like how it made me feel, and unexpectedly started dropping weight like crazy.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle

I cut that crap out of my diet a couple of years ago because I didn't like how it made me feel, and unexpectedly started dropping weight like crazy.

Not unexpected at all actually.

[Barefootsies]

Wow. That shit's crazy.

Hopefully science can keep up.

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by 2012

can you imagine how many old people would be around right now sucking the system dryer then a bank bailout if they didn't poison us a little to keep the population down?

Killing people off is one thing, but poisoning everyone with aspertane, msg, high fructose corn syrup, etc... that method just feeds the healthcare system and big pharma.

Semi-off-topic... I think the age of retirement should go up one year, every 5 years (66 next year, 67 in five years, 68 five years later, etc.).

As long as people are not dying off at 70, as was the average when the retirement age was set to 65, then upping the retirement age is a no-brainer.

Unfortunately interest rates are currently set too low, the unemployment age is too low, and many taxes need to go up a bit to help remedy problems (SS, unemployment, etc.).

Whoever implements these changes will be crucified however, so we all fight amongst ourselves to maintain the status quo, while we continue to point fingers, all the time ignoring the 800 pound gorilla in the room.

Crazy shit...

[AlCapone]

Fuctose is not the same as High Fructose Corn Syrup.

2c

[fatfoo]

I do believe that fruit juice is good for people for several reasons:
- In one of my squirrel experiments, a squirrel licks juice when juice is spilled on ground.
- A large colorful grafitti on a wall near a basketball court says "Juice."
- I drink juice and it gives me energy because of carbohydrates.

However, do not overdose on juice. You will see on the juice label information that says "100% daily dose."

[Ayla_SquareTurtle]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Not unexpected at all actually.

What I meant was that *I* didn't expect to lose weight. I didn't even consider it actually. I just decided I didn't like the stuff and the weight started falling off.

The article seems to indicate that sugar is just as bad, but apparently not when it comes to my waistline.

[Ayla_SquareTurtle]

Originally Posted by AlCapone

Fuctose is not the same as High Fructose Corn Syrup.

2c

Right, it's a component of it.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by AlCapone

Fuctose is not the same as High Fructose Corn Syrup.

2c

True, but too much of either is horrible for you and 90% or more of Americans get WAY too much.

[AlCapone]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

True, but too much of either is horrible for you and 90% or more of Americans get WAY too much.

Yes, definitely. It's in almost everything here. You can find milk with HFCS in it.

All of this dates back to the Nixon era when the public demaned inexpensive food. Nixon signed off on subsidizing corn farms and other staples to produce affordable food products. Since then, they've genetically crafted this poison in all of our food in an effort to provide the mass public with cheap food.

The corn farmers are in the red without Government subsidization. What does this tell us? There's too much! We don't need all of that. 98% of the corn grown in the U.S. isn't even edible, it's used as feed stock for cattle. So it's not only in our beverages, cereal and just about everything, but it's also in the beef we have here.

It's out of control.

[AlCapone]

However, HFCS is our Nation's #1 export. So not only are we poisioning ourselves, we are now sharing with the rest of the world.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by AlCapone

Yes, definitely. It's in almost everything here. You can find milk with HFCS in it.

All of this dates back to the Nixon era when the public demaned inexpensive food. Nixon signed off on subsidizing corn farms and other staples to produce affordable food products. Since then, they've genetically crafted this poison in all of our food in an effort to provide the mass public with cheap food.

The corn farmers are in the red without Government subsidization. What does this tell us? There's too much! We don't need all of that. 98% of the corn grown in the U.S. isn't even edible, it's used as feed stock for cattle. So it's not only in our beverages, cereal and just about everything, but it's also in the beef we have here.

It's out of control.

You are exactly right, but missing half of it. Sugar tariffs the government charges for sugar imports makes sugar very expensive in the US. This was done to protect domestic sugar producers (really just 1 or 2 big companies). So we have tons of dirt cheap inedible corn sold at well below market prices because of government subsidies and way overpriced sugar due to government sugar import tariffs.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by AlCapone

However, HFCS is our Nation's #1 export. So not only are we poisioning ourselves, we are now sharing with the rest of the world.

It's not our number one export. I think airplanes are.

[Screwed Up]

Watch the movie Food Inc.

Even before watching that movie I never understood why anyone would eat High Fructose Corn Syrup. Didn't make any sense to me.

[PlugRush Sascha]

Originally Posted by Screwed Up

Watch the movie Food Inc.

Even before watching that movie I never understood why anyone would eat High Fructose Corn Syrup. Didn't make any sense to me.

Because the average person is dumb-as-fuck and knows nothing about nutrition. Now it should make sense why they would eat HFCS as well as many other things they shouldn't be eating. They just go to the grocery store and grab shit they like the taste of.

[dyna mo]

jesus fucking christ there's some bullshit information in this thread.

fucking fructose is NOT = high fructose corn syrup. fructose is the primary sugar in most fruit and absolutely fine and good.

and hfcs is NOT the u.s. #1 export, by far.

jesus fuck.

[Ayla_SquareTurtle]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

fucking fructose is NOT = high fructose corn syrup.

I guess you missed the part where we already said that?

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

fructose is the primary sugar in most fruit and absolutely fine and good.

Explain that to him...

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle

I guess you missed the part where we already said that?

but i did not miss the part where you said it's a component. fructose is also a component of an apple.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

but i did not miss the part where you said it's a component.

It is...

[woj]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Explain that to him...

very good lecture

[Poindexterity]

oops....

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Explain that to him...

that's 90 minutes of video so it will be awhile for me to watch the entire video but from the segments i viewed, my comment is not out of line with his conclusions about hfcs/soda pops, fruit drinks.

i've been a type 1 diabetic for 27 years now and worked with MANY endocrons over the years. i've checked my blood sugars pre/post eating fruit, drinking pop, etc, et al. tried to educate myself on sugars/glycemic index, fast carbs, slow carbs, etc.

moreover, the original study mentions REFINED fructose. consuming a natural, reasonable amount of fructose daily is fine and good and my experience belies that.

[Ayla_SquareTurtle]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

but i did not miss the part where you said it's a component. fructose is also a component of an apple.

Indeed it is, I was already aware of that. Nothing I said contradicts that.

I don't make any claims about HFCS beyond the fact that when I cut HFCS out of my diet, I lost a considerable amount of weight.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

that's 90 minutes of video so it will be awhile for me to watch the entire video but from the segments i viewed, my comment is not out of line with his conclusions about hfcs/soda pops, fruit drinks.

i've been a type 1 diabetic for 27 years now and worked with MANY endocrons over the years. i've checked my blood sugars pre/post eating fruit, drinking pop, etc, et al. tried to educate myself on sugars/glycemic index, fast carbs, slow carbs, etc.

moreover, the original study mentions REFINED fructose. consuming a natural, reasonable amount of fructose daily is fine and good and my experience belies that.

Yeah, the problem is not fruit. The problem is that hfcs and fructose are added to almost everything we eat and we get way more than our bodies are built to handle.

The lecture really is worth the hour and half it takes to watch it.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle

Indeed it is, I was already aware of that. Nothing I said contradicts that.

I don't make any claims about HFCS beyond the fact that when I cut HFCS out of my diet, I lost a considerable amount of weight.

then i'm not sure why it was important for you to mention that hfcs not = to fructose was already mentioned when i simply reinforced that by stating it again.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Yeah, the problem is not fruit. The problem is that hfcs and fructose are added to almost everything we eat and we get way more than our bodies are built to handle.

The lecture really is worth the hour and half it takes to watch it.

yes. too many people eat too much refined fructose, that's the problem. i plan to watch the entire vid when i get a chance, i liked what i've seen so far.

i've recently switched to a diet very high in fruits & vegetables and if i were to add up the amount of glucose in it and told my doc, "hey doc, i'm eating 150g of fructose a day", he would shit a stethoscope.

but the fact is, my sugars are down in comparison to previous diets.

[Poindexterity]

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Poindexterity

That's very similar to what I was thinking about your first post.

yeah a QFT would of been better?


reinstating the importance of the difference in a thread of misinformation. hfcs is also not our #1 export. restated for emphasis

[tiger]

A lot of people in this thread obviously didn't read the article. It is not just high fructose, but all fructose.

Anyway seems like a pretty retarded study to me, what did they think would happen if you give a cancer cell or any type of cell for that matter an energy source like fructose.

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by AlCapone

Yes, definitely. It's in almost everything here. You can find milk with HFCS in it.

All of this dates back to the Nixon era when the public demaned inexpensive food. Nixon signed off on subsidizing corn farms and other staples to produce affordable food products. Since then, they've genetically crafted this poison in all of our food in an effort to provide the mass public with cheap food.

The corn farmers are in the red without Government subsidization. What does this tell us? There's too much! We don't need all of that. 98% of the corn grown in the U.S. isn't even edible, it's used as feed stock for cattle. So it's not only in our beverages, cereal and just about everything, but it's also in the beef we have here.

It's out of control.

Stop blaming President NIxon and go read your history. Prior to the 1890s and early 1900s sugar was added to NOTHING except the occasional cuppa java or tea. It was only after food producers learned that adding refined (pure) sugar to foods made them taste "better" and that the sugar improved sales that the problem began. The sugar problem is also related to the "invasion" of Cuba as at the time Cuba's primary export was sugar and the US investors needed a market, so they created on. The unhealthy aspects of a high-sugar diet wer not understood at the time, so don't go blaming big corporations for politicians or starting it.

We know better now and producers are reducing sugar content, left, right and center.

Still, the average American ingests nearly 130 lbs of sugar yearly and that is very,very bad.

Although there is some truth to what you have written, by and large, you are basing your opinions on a very limited understand of the history of sugar in the USA.

Sally.

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

Explain that to him...

Exactly. HFCS is killing America. Diabetes II is a ticking demographic timebomb

[gmr324]

Still, the average American ingests nearly 130 lbs of sugar yearly

That's a nasty stat. I'd like to see a graph of average sugar consumption by decade

[Caligari]

Now heres a dose of reality
my dad is 80, smoked 2 packs and drank about a 5th of booze every day for 45 years.
not only is he still alive, but he still drives a car and is quite mobile.

my brother died of cancer at 58. never smoked, rarely ever drank. ate "healthy" foods nearly his entire life.

heres the truth. when your number is up, your number is up.

you cannot escape the grim reaper. you can try any variety of "healthy living" alternatives but when he comes calling you will sound quite silly when you say "but i didn't eat the salmon mousse"

life is random and the universe largely runs on chaos so get used to it.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by ktj4l

Because the average person is dumb-as-fuck and knows nothing about nutrition. Now it should make sense why they would eat HFCS as well as many other things they shouldn't be eating. They just go to the grocery store and grab shit they like the taste of.

its only been in the last 10 years or so (at least in canada) that nutritional information was made available to the public so they at least have the option to see what they are getting.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Caligari

Now heres a dose of reality
my dad is 80, smoked 2 packs and drank about a 5th of booze every day for 45 years.
not only is he still alive, but he still drives a car and is quite mobile.

my brother died of cancer at 58. never smoked, rarely ever drank. ate "healthy" foods nearly his entire life.

heres the truth. when your number is up, your number is up.

you cannot escape the grim reaper. you can try any variety of "healthy living" alternatives but when he comes calling you will sound quite silly when you say "but i didn't eat the salmon mousse"

life is random and the universe largely runs on chaos so get used to it.

its not that simple. your brother could of been exposed to something harmful in his workplace or if cancer runs in the family, it doesn't mean it will have the same effects on your father as it would him. there are many variables. people don't just die 'randomly'.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by gmr324

That's a nasty stat. I'd like to see a graph of average sugar consumption by decade

sodium is probably just as bad. its insane how much salt is put in canned soups.

[CaptainHowdy]

Let's all live forever...

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by tiger

A lot of people in this thread obviously didn't read the article. It is not just high fructose, but all fructose.

Anyway seems like a pretty retarded study to me, what did they think would happen if you give a cancer cell or any type of cell for that matter an energy source like fructose.

you obviously didn't read the study, it's REFINED fructose, not all fructose.

try to consume enough fructose to feed cancer by eating apples and bananas.

[DaddyHalbucks]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Explain that to him...

Powerful video, thanks.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Everything is killing us yet the avg life expectancy in the USA is going up and up.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Everything is killing us yet the avg life expectancy in the USA is going up and up.

Life expectancy does go up and up and that has a lot to do with us getting better at treating things like cancer and heart disease. Eliminating fructose from your diet will help prevent either from occurring in the first place.

[Tanker]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Explain that to him...

I was actually going to post this same lecture!

Salt is also said to be recommended at a level that is more then double what it should be.

[Socks]

I try to mainly drink water and milk now with almost nothing else. That was an easy change for me and might pay dividends sometime later in life. Plus those drinks that I don't consume at home have become nice treats.

[WinstonTriplexcash]

Originally Posted by fatfoo

I do believe that fruit juice is good for people for several reasons:
- In one of my squirrel experiments, a squirrel licks juice when juice is spilled on ground.
- A large colorful grafitti on a wall near a basketball court says "Juice."
- I drink juice and it gives me energy because of carbohydrates.

However, do not overdose on juice. You will see on the juice label information that says "100% daily dose."

I will miss fatfoo the day he stops posting lol

[joshuawk]

"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity."
— Harlan Ellison



nice quote....