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crazytrini85 08-05-2010 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LA Times
"Kevin Blatt, who handles mainstream advertising sales for Pornhub and Youporn parent Manwin"

You handle Brazzers adverting?


You just went from douche to criminal accomplice who needs to go on an industry black list. :2 cents:

Piss off to all of you giving him props. He now works for the biggest criminal enterprise in the entire industry who has fucked this industry to death, stole all of your content and is involved in money laundering.

Eat shit and die Kevin.

nico-t 08-05-2010 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 17390223)
Humble as usual.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

the more traffic than god line cracked me up :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

what a piece of work, like the sextape that was supposed to star a HUGE A STAR CELEB!!! and noone knew the people who were in it, i dont even remember the names or what happened to the tape :1orglaugh

CS-Jay 08-05-2010 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17390204)
That is huge Kevin.

I (and many others) tried everything we could over the years to get ANY "mainstream" business to advertise with us. I worked my ass off about 10 years ago trying to get a liquor or cigarette company to advertise on al4a and ampland to no avail.

You just pulled off a game changer there buddy. If this works out well for "MiddleMen" it could be the start of a new revenue stream that has eluded all of us since the mid 1990's.


Same thing with us and crazyshit.com. I always thought it would have been a good fit with movies and crazyshit. But I could never get anyone to give me a second look.

We could have skins available if you are interested!

CaptainHowdy 08-05-2010 06:40 AM

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rpDS758rDz...cat-in-bag.jpg

erooup 08-05-2010 07:06 AM

Is that why michale is no longer associating himself with 2257safe.com ? because you are working for the same people that steal peoples content?

crazytrini85 08-05-2010 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by erooup (Post 17391584)
Is that why michale is no longer associating himself with 2257safe.com ? because you are working for the same people that steal peoples content?

I didn't notice that.

A professional who had any morals at all would distance himself from scum like that.

marketsmart 08-05-2010 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17390661)

This has the potential to be something that can make some serious money for me and all the other people who have spent years and years building their sites and brands. Doesn't mean much for all those search engine "webmasters". But for real old school webmasters this could be very nice.

Even with my comparably small traffic I could easily see a very nice paycheck on prepaid ads if this leads to other companies following the lead of "Middlemen"


not gonna happen on the levels people are thinking about..

film industry is one thing..

publicly held companies and high profile companies will never associate themselves with porn companies... :2 cents:




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justinsain 08-05-2010 07:29 AM

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I think mainstream still isn't ready
to work side by side with the adult industry. I'm sure the mainstream executives are
salivating at the potential but most are not willing to face the backlash from mainstream americans. They might be able to slip Extenze in but I doubt Pepsi will step up to the plate.

We all know that people frown on adult in public and then go home and do it behind closed doors and the mainstream crowd is full of hypocrites BUT, they are the buying public and have the loudest voice.

People boycott and ridicule companies for far less then working side by side with the adult industry. Communities are still actively finding ways to put strip clubs out of business instead of finding ways for them to benefit the community.

As sad as it is I just don't think America is ready yet.

That's my feeling and I hope when this thread is revisited in five years I was wrong :)

halfpint 08-05-2010 07:58 AM

Well you never know and if this did happen it would certianly bring in a whole new revenue stream for adult sites. Watch some of the mainstream "sexy ads" and they are the ones that get all the attention so just maybe the mainstream movie makers would capalitise on this fact. I can see problems with people who are dead against porn saying they will not watch a film being advertised on a porn site..but there is always hope :)

Roald 08-05-2010 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 17390538)

Thats what you call product placement right there :thumbsup

Jman 08-05-2010 08:19 AM

P.I.M.P that is what KB is ;-)

Professional Internet Marketing Pimp

GTS Mark 08-05-2010 09:09 AM

It's an exciting time, we placed some ads for the Middle Men people as well. We're hoping this really catches on thru Hollywood.

Roald 08-05-2010 09:31 AM

Oh btw hit me up for a few million hits a day more.

tony286 08-05-2010 09:56 AM

Lets see a movie made by a man who owned a processor which is one of the biggest in the porn industry and makes a movie about the porn industry and its advertised on a porn tube. That's really not a great stretch. Now pixar bought ads then that's huge or the new George Clooney movie. Its like my buddy Mikes says as long as a porn chick is playing a porn star, escort or stripper in a mainstream movies thats not crossover. Now if she played a nun or mother with litle kids then that's crossover. Your site looks good KB :)

The Porn Nerd 08-05-2010 10:30 AM

Why didn't they do something like this for that Kevin Smith movie, whoever and whoever make a porn flick? Remember that one? Came out only a couple years ago.....

Hey, we got Fellucia Blow on the cover of British GQ!

http://www.felluciablow.com/press.html

Time to brainstorm Robbie - let's get some advertising going for Fellucia! :)

justinsain 08-05-2010 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tony299 (Post 17392110)
Lets see a movie made by a man who owned a processor which is one of the biggest in the porn industry and makes a movie about the porn industry and its advertised on a porn tube. That's really not a great stretch. Now pixar bought ads then that's huge or the new George Clooney movie. Its like my buddy Mikes says as long as a porn chick is playing a porn star, escort or stripper in a mainstream movies thats not crossover. Now if she played a nun or mother with litle kids then that's crossover. Your site looks good KB :)

That right there is what I would call a heavy dose of reality :)

Far-L 08-05-2010 10:57 AM

KB!

You know how long each and every one of us has been saying why doesn't mainstream advertise in adult?

As you know, we tried years ago with "Orgazmo"(an obvious fit) but to no avail...

Kudos!

Robbie 08-05-2010 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 17392281)
That right there is what I would call a heavy dose of reality :)

I don't think anybody had visions of Disney/Pixar buying ads for their movies on a porn site.

Forget the public outcry, just take into account that it wouldn't make good business sense.

Instead of trying to think of companies that WON'T buy advertising because it's a bad fit to begin with, you should be thinking of the ones that would fit.

Why would a movie starring a "nun" character ever even get MADE to begin with, much less advertise on a porn site! lol

No, the "heavy dose of reality" is that there ARE lots of movies made which would fit perfectly with advertising on porn sites. And some that don't.

For instance, I'm sure that "The Hangover" did targeted advertising in different places than "The Passion Of Christ" did.

Also...again I say that the cigarette industry is a multi-billion dollar industry with NO advertising outlet. The govt. has shut them down everywhere. They have been reduced to hiring girls to go out to nightclubs and hand out free sample packs of cigarettes and coupons for more cigs.

That is the big monster that I'd love to snag for advertising on porn sites.

And then there are the liquor companies.

And here in Vegas there are billboards for doctors in California to get you "legal" so you can buy pot. And how about plastic surgeons that do boob jobs?

The "heavy dose of reality" is that there are lots of advertising opportunities IF things worked out well for this first step.

No, I don't expect us all to make millions tomorrow because of this. But I do see it as a first small step. It could go absolutely nowhere. Or it could lead, down the road, to something bigger than we've ever had before.

candyflip 08-05-2010 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17392313)

Why would a movie starring a "nun" character ever even get MADE to begin with, much less advertise on a porn site! lol

Lindsay Lohan plays a nun in Robert Rodriguez's upcoming flick "Machete". That's probably the only other movie coming out this year that would work for this type of marketing scheme.

So, you might be a little off there...
:winkwink:

marketsmart 08-05-2010 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17392313)

Instead of trying to think of companies that WON'T buy advertising because it's a bad fit to begin with, you should be thinking of the ones that would fit.

i think i'm falling for you... :1orglaugh


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tony286 08-05-2010 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 17392333)
Lindsay Lohan plays a nun in Robert Rodriguez's upcoming flick "Machete". That's probably the only other movie coming out this year that would work for this type of marketing scheme.

So, you might be a little off there...
:winkwink:

also a very good movie named doubt

Roald 08-05-2010 11:31 AM

this could go far, I see Claudia-marie selling Slimfit, KnockedupNelly selling Durex, BigSausagePizza selling New York Pizza and SkinnyFans selling Mc Donalds!!!!!!!!!

Anthony 08-05-2010 11:35 AM

This is a game changer. The implication are huge. A lot of you already see what doors will be opened for us, and how mainstream will take note.

Kev, great job! When this takes off, there are a lot of people who will be benefiting from what you started. :)

TheAmericanCannibal 08-05-2010 11:36 AM

Let's just say


Judd Apatow, American Pie, National Lampoon, and movies like "The Aristocrats"

Hot Tub Time Machine 2...etc can all be marketing effectively on PH

justinsain 08-05-2010 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17392313)
I don't think anybody had visions of Disney/Pixar buying ads for their movies on a porn site.

Forget the public outcry, just take into account that it wouldn't make good business sense.

Instead of trying to think of companies that WON'T buy advertising because it's a bad fit to begin with, you should be thinking of the ones that would fit.

Why would a movie starring a "nun" character ever even get MADE to begin with, much less advertise on a porn site! lol

No, the "heavy dose of reality" is that there ARE lots of movies made which would fit perfectly with advertising on porn sites. And some that don't.

For instance, I'm sure that "The Hangover" did targeted advertising in different places than "The Passion Of Christ" did.

Also...again I say that the cigarette industry is a multi-billion dollar industry with NO advertising outlet. The govt. has shut them down everywhere. They have been reduced to hiring girls to go out to nightclubs and hand out free sample packs of cigarettes and coupons for more cigs.

That is the big monster that I'd love to snag for advertising on porn sites.

And then there are the liquor companies.

And here in Vegas there are billboards for doctors in California to get you "legal" so you can buy pot. And how about plastic surgeons that do boob jobs?

The "heavy dose of reality" is that there are lots of advertising opportunities IF things worked out well for this first step.

No, I don't expect us all to make millions tomorrow because of this. But I do see it as a first small step. It could go absolutely nowhere. Or it could lead, down the road, to something bigger than we've ever had before.

I certainly see the value for both mainstream and adult working together and it would be mutually beneficial. However, going by what Tony404 posted this can hardly be seen as mainstream crossing over if the person(s) responsible come from the porn side to begin with. It sounds like the porn side has managed to get into mainstream.

There's a reason most newspapers don't accept ads from adult and that's the same reason most if not all mainstream advertisers shy away. At least for now.

You and I are about the same age so we've experienced the same things that have changed over time. We grew up watching I love Lucy where they had to sleep in separate beds on TV and now on the Bachelor he gets to romance 10 girls in prime time almost to the point of softcore porn. The fact that people like Pam Anderson and Paris Hilton can have sex tapes and still be accepted by the general public shows a growing tolerance for adult and I think the internet has played the biggest part of all.

There's a huge wall society has built between mainstream and adult and no one thing will bring it tumbling down. It's going to have to be dismantled brick by brick and time will tell what part this has in it's demolition.

I'm not dissing the idea, I just question whether it will have any impact anytime soon.

TheAmericanCannibal 08-05-2010 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 17392423)
This is a game changer. The implication are huge. A lot of you already see what doors will be opened for us, and how mainstream will take note.

Kev, great job! When this takes off, there are a lot of people who will be benefiting from what you started. :)

I told you one day I would give back to the community Anthony-
Of course I always thought that it would be in the form of "the Clap".
LOL


This is unchartered territory who knows where this will lead us- but I know this much
I am one who boldly goes where no man has ever gone before...except when it comes to ex gf's

:-))

Robbie 08-05-2010 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 17392333)
Lindsay Lohan plays a nun in Robert Rodriguez's upcoming flick "Machete". That's probably the only other movie coming out this year that would work for this type of marketing scheme.

So, you might be a little off there...
:winkwink:

Well, opening up a new advertising market isn't exactly a "marketing scheme" and I can think of several movies that came out recently. The movie doesn't have to be about porn in any way at all. Why would it need to be?

The only thing is it has to be targeted to the audience. So no, you wouldn't pay to advertise a children's movie on a porn site. Just like you wouldn't pay to put an ad for it in Maxim magazine.

But pretty much any adult comedy or action movie or sci-fi movie that isn't primarily for children could definitely benefit by having their trailer on porn sites.

It's all about effective targeting and marketing.

Of course, they could just all say "no way" like they always have. Or this could be the first baby steps towards something new.

No reason at all for this weeks "Dinner For Schmucks" or "The Other Guys" not to be running their trailers on porn sites too. Or that stupid new "Pirahnna" remake.

Millions of eyeballs waiting for them.

The Porn Nerd 08-05-2010 11:49 AM

Robbie is correct when he says liquor and cigarettes should advertise on porn sites. Tattoo parlors, head shops, all kinds of places should. But aren't there 'rules' with Visa and other CC's that they won't process 'mainstream' orders thru a porn site?

dallasnovelty 08-05-2010 11:51 AM

That looks like a good movie Congrats

Roald 08-05-2010 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 17392426)
I certainly see the value for both mainstream and adult working together and it would be mutually beneficial. However, going by what Tony404 posted this can hardly be seen as mainstream crossing over if the person(s) responsible come from the porn side to begin with. It sounds like the porn side has managed to get into mainstream.

There's a reason most newspapers don't accept ads from adult and that's the same reason most if not all mainstream advertisers shy away. At least for now.

You and I are about the same age so we've experienced the same things that have changed over time. We grew up watching I love Lucy where they had to sleep in separate beds on TV and now on the Bachelor he gets to romance 10 girls in prime time almost to the point of softcore porn. The fact that people like Pam Anderson and Paris Hilton can have sex tapes and still be accepted by the general public shows a growing tolerance for adult and I think the internet has played the biggest part of all.

There's a huge wall society has built between mainstream and adult and no one thing will bring it tumbling down. It's going to have to be dismantled brick by brick and time will tell what part this has in it's demolition.

I'm not dissing the idea, I just question whether it will have any impact anytime soon.

+1 :thumbsup

crazytrini85 08-05-2010 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 17392430)
I told you one day I would give back to the community Anthony

This is unchartered territory who knows where this will lead us- but I know this much
I am one who boldly goes where no man has ever gone before.

:1orglaugh

When George Lucas is putting ads on your thieving site, let us know and I will bow before you in awe. In the meantime, you got a movie made by a porn guy, about porn, put on a porn site that built itself by stealing everyones movies. Not really something to pat yourself on the back for, it's not that impressive considering who made it and what it's about.

The only impressive part is how many bro-ass kissers there are in this thread. You are personally contributing to the demise of the adult industry and are getting praise for it.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves. :2 cents:

SteveLightspeed 08-05-2010 12:54 PM

I seriously doubt that Chris Mallick even realizes that buying ads on Pornhub could be seen as a big "fuck you" to his long time friends and supporters. I bet he hasn't read GFY in years.

I've seen the movie. It is pretty good. I wish Chris and crew all the best of luck with it.

Steve Lightspeed

candyflip 08-05-2010 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17392438)
Well, opening up a new advertising market isn't exactly a "marketing scheme" and I can think of several movies that came out recently. The movie doesn't have to be about porn in any way at all. Why would it need to be?

The only thing is it has to be targeted to the audience. So no, you wouldn't pay to advertise a children's movie on a porn site. Just like you wouldn't pay to put an ad for it in Maxim magazine.

But pretty much any adult comedy or action movie or sci-fi movie that isn't primarily for children could definitely benefit by having their trailer on porn sites.

It's all about effective targeting and marketing.

Of course, they could just all say "no way" like they always have. Or this could be the first baby steps towards something new.

No reason at all for this weeks "Dinner For Schmucks" or "The Other Guys" not to be running their trailers on porn sites too. Or that stupid new "Pirahnna" remake.

Millions of eyeballs waiting for them.

Thanks's for basically spitting back the fucking point I was making. :winkwink:

Where did I ever say that it would only work for Porn related movies? The movie I mentioned has nothing to do with porn. It's something that could be easily marketed like "Middle Men" is being right now.

It's got sex, drugs, violence, big stars and the restricted red band trailer. Perfect for this type of marketing.

MaDalton 08-05-2010 01:19 PM

quote from the "Middle Men" message board on IMDB:

Quote:

It had really clever advertising on porno websites. Way to go.

Pipecrew 08-05-2010 01:20 PM

You got a guy with a porn background smart enough to advertise a porno style movie on pornsites. This is hardly the start of anything big and I really doubt you will see this happen again.

Ethersync 08-05-2010 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipecrew (Post 17392746)
You got a guy with a porn background smart enough to advertise a porno style movie on pornsites. This is hardly the start of anything big and I really doubt you will see this happen again.

One step at a time...

Semi-Retired-Dave 08-05-2010 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17392532)
:1orglaugh

When George Lucas is putting ads on your thieving site, let us know and I will bow before you in awe. In the meantime, you got a movie made by a porn guy, about porn, put on a porn site that built itself by stealing everyones movies. Not really something to pat yourself on the back for, it's not that impressive considering who made it and what it's about.

The only impressive part is how many bro-ass kissers there are in this thread. You are personally contributing to the demise of the adult industry and are getting praise for it.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves. :2 cents:

Although I like KB, this is the best post in this thread. :thumbsup

Anthony 08-05-2010 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean-Francois (Post 17391807)
P.I.M.P that is what KB is ;-)

Professional Internet Marketing Pimp

I thought it was "Professional Internet Marketing Person". :)

aimeesweet 08-05-2010 05:21 PM

Kevin, congrats on the new gig!

xoxo

nico-t 08-05-2010 05:26 PM

game changer
start of adult mainstream crossover

LOL

you guys giving kb head in this thread almost blow things even more out of proportion as he does himself

fucking funny


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