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Old 07-17-2010, 08:07 PM   #1
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Wesley Snipes going to jail for 3 years

Sorry if this has already been posted. I just read that Wesley Snipes appeal was tossed out and his sentence of 36 months in jail for tax evasion was upheld. Looks like Blade is heading to the big house. . . unless he skips the country and moves somewhere like France where they don't extradite for non-violent crimes.
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he sorta deserves it... I really don't pity him at all


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How much money did he owe in taxes, and is the 3 year jail term in lieu of paying his bill, or in addition? How many years did he not pay taxes?
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Why these rich people avoid paying taxes baffles me..he deserves it
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How much money did he owe in taxes, and is the 3 year jail term in lieu of paying his bill, or in addition? How many years did he not pay taxes?
From what I understand he owes more than 15 million. When he was sentenced he gave them 5 million and was told that was a down payment and only a fraction of what he owed so they wouldn't take it as an alternative to jail time.

He got involved with one of those guys who think that it says in the Constitution that paying taxes is optional. So I guess he hasn't filed or paid anything for several years and he even filed to have all the taxes he has paid over the years returned to him.
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sucks to be him, he will probably get out after 6 months for good behavior though...
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Snipes was all goofed up with that whole "Income Tax Is Illegal" thing, ignoring that little thing known as The Sixteenth Amedment, which reads:

"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."

Mebbe he can't read or something.

Last year the income to my corporation was into shallow six figures and my corporation paid less than $1k in income tax. This year hasn't been so good but I fucked off for about six months and let things slide. Corporations are great things because you can expense out damned near everything. My corporation even owns my Corvette. Gotta have a company car, you know! My dogs are expensed out quite legally as "security costs", along with their food, vet bills, toys, treats; even their food bowls, houses and enclosures. The corporation buys the firearms, again for "security services".

I actually have a small office which is in an old house that I bought for like $12K and I charge off all costs associated with that dump and let a friend live there in return for taking care of the place and I headquarter my corporation there in one locked room. My corporation pays me minimum wage, so my personal taxes are like zilch. The pickup is owned by the corporation because the corporation needs to be able to move things like computers, keyboards and has to haul hay for the beasties. All exenses connected with the truck are legally 100% deductible from corporate income.

Three years ago when things were really good, my corporation bought the farm(Literally!) on which I live, paying cash and then sold the farm to me, thus creating an expense for the corporation and making my interest payments to the corporation fully deductible to myself personally. If I need money, the corporation LOANS me money, adding the amount to my mortage and the proceeds of the LOAN are NOT taxable to me. I have a "sweetheart loan" on which I only make interest payments with a balloon that just magically keeps extending as the result of various corporate resolutions extending the time frame. Of course, I own the corporation and pretty much tell it what to do, so I'm kind of making interest payments to myself but that's OK and legal. Enough stock in the corporation is owned by others to keep it from being considered a "closely held" corporation in the eyes of the IRS but the stockholders rarely recieve dividend payments as the corporation is always broke at the end of the year.

The corporation owns the livestock, such as they are and pays me to take care of them. All legal and even passed an audit. Everyone hates corporations until they need one.

Snipes is a fool.

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sucks to be him, he will probably get out after 6 months for good behavior though...
Not in the Federal system he wont. He will do 2 and spend about about 4 months in a halfway house, then get out
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Why these rich people avoid paying taxes baffles me..he deserves it
You like to pay taxes?

Do you believe that you should pay only the taxes for which you are legally obligated?

Or do you just blindly send huge chunks of YOUR hard earned income to a corrupt government?

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wesley snipes was an idiot and agree with the poster went with one of these taxes are illegal nutjobs. if you're self employed or a corp, there are too many writeoffs and thus lowering taxes owed. i remember doing loans for $1mm yachts to people who made $2mm yearly and I paid more taxes than them as a wage earner. They had corp's set up and lowered their taxes legally to a minimum amount. god bless the tax code.
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wesley snipes was an idiot and agree with the poster went with one of these taxes are illegal nutjobs. if you're self employed or a corp, there are too many writeoffs and thus lowering taxes owed. i remember doing loans for $1mm yachts to people who made $2mm yearly and I paid more taxes than them as a wage earner. They had corp's set up and lowered their taxes legally to a minimum amount. god bless the tax code.
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I will tell you why I do not buy into the US Tax system and do everything I can to lower my tax burden. Because I live, work and earn my income abroad and not on US soil. I have not lived in the USA for years and have residency in another country.

The USA wants to tax their slaves on their world wide income and that is simply horse shit. I do not use ANYTHING from the USA. Nada. They do not assist me in any manner for anything. I take nothing from the system and feel it's only fair to give nothing or as close to it as I can, in return. Thankfully, there are a lot of tax loopholes that allow for lowering your tax burden when living and working abroad.
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I will tell you why I do not buy into the US Tax system and do everything I can to lower my tax burden. Because I live, work and earn my income abroad and not on US soil. I have not lived in the USA for years and have residency in another country.

The USA wants to tax their slaves on their world wide income and that is simply horse shit. I do not use ANYTHING from the USA. Nada. They do not assist me in any manner for anything. I take nothing from the system and feel it's only fair to give nothing or as close to it as I can, in return. Thankfully, there are a lot of tax loopholes that allow for lowering your tax burden when living and working abroad.
Yeah, it's total bullshit. I have to deal with it too.
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Are you sure about that? Martha Stewart went to jail.

Every now and then you'll find a judge that wants to set an example out of the rich. Frankly, more of it should be done. Particularly some of those high-level CEOs.
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if you followed the case it was his lack of cooperation and association with the tax resistance movement that got him in trouble. plenty or rich celebs owe tons in taxes and never get close to jail.
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Snipes was all goofed up with that whole "Income Tax Is Illegal" thing, ignoring that little thing known as The Sixteenth Amedment, which reads:

"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."

Mebbe he can't read or something.

Last year the income to my corporation was into shallow six figures and my corporation paid less than $1k in income tax. This year hasn't been so good but I fucked off for about six months and let things slide. Corporations are great things because you can expense out damned near everything. My corporation even owns my Corvette. Gotta have a company car, you know! My dogs are expensed out quite legally as "security costs", along with their food, vet bills, toys, treats; even their food bowls, houses and enclosures. The corporation buys the firearms, again for "security services".

I actually have a small office which is in an old house that I bought for like $12K and I charge off all costs associated with that dump and let a friend live there in return for taking care of the place and I headquarter my corporation there in one locked room. My corporation pays me minimum wage, so my personal taxes are like zilch. The pickup is owned by the corporation because the corporation needs to be able to move things like computers, keyboards and has to haul hay for the beasties. All exenses connected with the truck are legally 100% deductible from corporate income.

Three years ago when things were really good, my corporation bought the farm(Literally!) on which I live, paying cash and then sold the farm to me, thus creating an expense for the corporation and making my interest payments to the corporation fully deductible to myself personally. If I need money, the corporation LOANS me money, adding the amount to my mortage and the proceeds of the LOAN are NOT taxable to me. I have a "sweetheart loan" on which I only make interest payments with a balloon that just magically keeps extending as the result of various corporate resolutions extending the time frame. Of course, I own the corporation and pretty much tell it what to do, so I'm kind of making interest payments to myself but that's OK and legal. Enough stock in the corporation is owned by others to keep it from being considered a "closely held" corporation in the eyes of the IRS but the stockholders rarely recieve dividend payments as the corporation is always broke at the end of the year.

The corporation owns the livestock, such as they are and pays me to take care of them. All legal and even passed an audit. Everyone hates corporations until they need one.

Snipes is a fool.

Sally.

The 16th Amendment is for Corporations, it taxes corp property income as an excise tax if the property earned an income for the corp. Basically it puts corp income into categories, which tells how or what will be taxed.

The reason you 'personally' pay taxes based on the 16th Amendment is because 'you' are a Corporation in the eyes of the Gov. We produce our Countries wealth, directly for the Corporation as one corporation, which is why it's able to loan/buy against the people directly, unlike other Countries.

Snipes attempted to go around this, he tried to not be a Corporation. However he failed to understand the money was made while he was a Corporation, and that is subject to tax. Unless he traded property, which then comes into a entirely different set of tricks.
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sucks to be him, he will probably get out after 6 months for good behavior though...
There is no parole in federal prison. He has to serve every day of his sentence.
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Back in 1990 in New York City on 126 Street during the filming of New Jack City....

I fucking told you so!

I told you it wouldn't work.

I was pretty sure at that time that you got the message and would give this stupid
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See ya.

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unless he skips the country and moves somewhere like France where they don't extradite for non-violent crimes.

When this shit first started coming down he fled to Africa for a while, if he has the opportunity wouldn't be surprised to see him do it again.


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How much money did he owe in taxes, and is the 3 year jail term in lieu of paying his bill, or in addition? How many years did he not pay taxes?

He hadn't filed taxes since 1999 on $38 mil income. They aren't saying how much in the new reports but I want to say it was around $12 mil owed if I remember right. It's not like he just didn't pay taxes because he morally objects to the process, fucker didn't pay his bills at all. He caused alot of bullshit down here in FL, defaulted on a shitload if loans, started building a multi million dollar mansion and then just cut and ran. Let it go into foreclosure.
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if you followed the case it was his lack of cooperation and association with the tax resistance movement that got him in trouble. plenty or rich celebs owe tons in taxes and never get close to jail.
Yep, we don't have a debtor's prison in this country. They won't put you in jail for owing taxes. They may make your life miserable, but they won't put you in jail. They will, however, put you jail if you lie on your taxes or don't file.
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Yep, we don't have a debtor's prison in this country. They won't put you in jail for owing taxes. They may make your life miserable, but they won't put you in jail. They will, however, put you jail if you lie on your taxes or don't file.

Actually in a way we do have a Debtor's Prison here. Somebody sues you for a debt and you fail to respond to the subpoena, the court can and will issue a warrant for your arrest for contempt of court. Doubt me? Look here:

http://uspoverty.change.org/blog/vie...ebtors_prisons

And here:

http://caveatemptorblog.com/new-debtors-prison/

Oh, yeah and here:

http://www.thefreemanonline.org/feat...btors-prison/#

Welcome to the New World Order!

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Relatively confident there is good time allowance though.
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I will tell you why I do not buy into the US Tax system and do everything I can to lower my tax burden. Because I live, work and earn my income abroad and not on US soil. I have not lived in the USA for years and have residency in another country.

The USA wants to tax their slaves on their world wide income and that is simply horse shit. I do not use ANYTHING from the USA. Nada. They do not assist me in any manner for anything. I take nothing from the system and feel it's only fair to give nothing or as close to it as I can, in return. Thankfully, there are a lot of tax loopholes that allow for lowering your tax burden when living and working abroad.
I hate it with a passion too,When you see 1/3 of your check getting gobbled up from taxes is infuriating.I work for the man and have been for over 33 years as a tradesman.We would all have decent wages if the man stays out of our pockets and stop relying riding on the backs of the people.
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Actually in a way we do have a Debtor's Prison here. Somebody sues you for a debt and you fail to respond to the subpoena, the court can and will issue a warrant for your arrest for contempt of court. Doubt me? Look here:

http://uspoverty.change.org/blog/vie...ebtors_prisons

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http://caveatemptorblog.com/new-debtors-prison/

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Welcome to the New World Order!

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It seems that those are not simple cases of people owing money but instead they are jailed for additional charges not related to the debt. It says that right in the articles you posted. Also it seems that those who got in trouble didn't even bother to show up for court.

If you owe back taxes and have filed all of your returns on time and have been honest, they aren't going to throw you in jail. They might make your life hell, but you aren't going to jail.
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Relatively confident there is good time allowance though.
When sentenced to federal prison the prisoner must serve at least 85% of his/her sentence.
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Old 07-23-2010, 11:01 PM   #36
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Old 07-23-2010, 11:09 PM   #37
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When sentenced to federal prison the prisoner must serve at least 85% of his/her sentence.
That is cool. Parole sucks, anyway.
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