#1 rule in suing anyone - they must have the money to be able to pay if you win!

the lawsuit could take years.................

Yes, totally true in most cases... but we are talking attorneys for Ascap/BMI and they don't give a damn about that when they are willing to sue teenagers for downloads... A defendant with cash is just their wet dreams come true.

They will settle for a fraction of that amount.

Too bad they don't still have Jim Jonsin. He could have been some leverage here. lol

You have absolutely no clue or you are being facetious and I hope that is the case. Perhaps you could add a :winkwink: to clarify...

For the record, people don't have a right to the music to publish it for personal gain when it is recorded on private property without permission no matter what you think. Time for you to go back to school and brush up on the First Amendment... and once you get up to speed on Constitutional Law then you might consider some IP remedial classes as well.

And for the record... just because you or anyone else hasn't been "caught" yet doesn't make it ok. It just makes it a liability that should not be overlooked.

Larry Walters is a great First Amendment specialist so that is why he is taking that approach in his media quote but even he knows from his first year of Law School how Copyrights work and how much Case Law there is in support of those rights. It would just look really bad if he said "my clients are in a really, really freaking difficult position and they should probably get some big IP guns in here quick to broker a manageable settlement."

I was wondering when this would come. It was pretty clear to quite a lot of people that they were going to get into trouble over this.

sucks big time, music studios are just desperate and trying to go after anyone they can. they have an army of lwayers on the payroll that have to show up with something.

CD sales must be down a lot more this year I guess

Wow that's amazingly stupid for a big operation like RK.

That said, what "extreme" sites do they run exactly?

I'll be dammed... they can't afford music?

wow, copyright infringement is not good.... it pays to be very careful...

It's because RK Media has money. Plus, the music industry is REALLY cracking down on copyright infringement. The current industry is changing dramatically & the dinosaurs are grasping at anything to stay in business.

I hope ND can weather this storm...

once I heard my music on the bus I was traveling... was a poor bus from a fucked up town, obviously piracy, I went so mad :mad:

Just like the Florida A&M IP lawsuit that RK settled very quickly, so will this one.

Larry is a great First Amendment attorney, but this isnt going to be a First Amendment case.

I cant image that RK doesnt have the funds to settle, but this one is going to hurt. The only question I have is will the records label make an example out of RK and push this one since there is little chance of a successful defense. They would also be entitled to attorneys fees at the end.

The other question that this case raises is whether it is now hunting season on all adult sites/DVDs by labels. Why stop with RK ?

I can see more copyright infringement lawsuits in the future.

Yes it's obvious they were just time shifting..

Now WTF couldn't I have seen the position listed for the person that was hired to actually watch and catalog all the scenes that infringed on the copyright?

Which sites by RK were named in the suits?
WG

would this lawsuit explain why my ND stats suck this month?

is INtheVip mentioned in the suit?

rip nasty dollars?

No its not. You cant even shoot Mardi Gras type content with music from the bars in the background.

With regards to club music being "public domain"

I've noticed shows on TV often replace the background music and ambience with generic music. If someone talks they quickly fade in and out with each word, so you can't pick up the beat of the real music that's playing.

No doubt they do this to avoid legal/licensing issues.

The crazy shit is that they own a record company... So why not use your own music in the club?

So they didn't Dmca RK? So what's the difference here?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=CY4KqzDy3e8

gideongallery is the dumbest smart sounded person I've ever come across.

Time shifting. Really . . . wow.

I think the difference is that youtube is posting that full music video and making money off of it while RK is using the music in their movies. Youtube can hide behind the DMCA because because they claim they are just a host and don't control the user uploads. RK took the music, used it as a soundtrack then sold the videos (or memberships to the sites where you can access the videos.)

Youtube plays very smart here
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/ma...pyrigh t.html

Until you all understand The meaning of "copyrighted" content and "infringing" content; and until you understand what creating/using yourself versus offering a service actually means, you will all never understand DMCA!

The comments in some of these posts comparing this to tube sites is just scary.

This is why smart operators hire people like me to design original soundtracks and shit. A proper license wins every time. I have never understood how people can stand up for copyright protection, shoot original content, spend money on developers and programmers and the whole enchilada.... then score it with unlicensed music. Bizarre.

So motherfucking true!

Hey Doc, hit me up when you get a sec...

Quick, get a lawyer that is versed in the art of SETTLEMENT NEGOTIATIONS.

Great Exposure for the RK brand! Wonder how many people, who never knew, will check them out. Thanks TMZ! :1orglaugh

It's all about how big the allegedly infringing company is.

Do you find it ironic that the "dinosaurs" have the product that people are looking to use?

Maybe a dinosaur is someone that actually creates something useful that
"new jacks" with no fucking talent want to steal to "create a business".

When the "dinosaurs" are gone then who will the new jacks steal from?

Themselves? :1orglaugh

Is kinda public domain like kinda pregnant?

Some music is licensed to be used on YT. :2 cents:

Damn! Are you really this fucking stupid? :1orglaugh