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dacash · 01-03-2003, 03:31 PM

well here is the problem, we are 4 going tot he convention, and the thing is that 3 of us are ok (we got all the required ID to go) but the fourth person doesn't have a Passport or Birth Certificat...

I called Air Canada, and they said that she needs to bring her Drivers License with photo ID and SS# CArd and Medicare CArd ( Goverment issued card). So ok they say that. But before the 9/11 my sister and her husband and 2 years old daughter was going to Florida, and her husband forgot his Birth Certificate, they wouldn't let him get on the plane until someone faxed in the Birth Certificate. So is Air Canada full of shit, or was it that maybe it was a random thing that happen to my brother inlaw?

And we are leaving tomorrow, and YES i told everyone what they needed, and the fourth person just told me she didn't have the Birth Certificate...

So what is your tough?

McAttack · 01-03-2003, 03:36 PM

Well if you can get some confirmation from AC on this, a written authorization or something. You MIGHT have an argument and they'd let you through, but they shouldn't give you any probs with lots of ID.

But seriously, no Birth Certificate? Make sure you go EXTRA early to the airport with this person, explain that you're bringing everybody for a convention is Vegas, blah blah blah. Don't try to go last minute and hope they'll say "Ah ok just go" cause that doesn't work.

Last time I had a friend fly to the US without all those papers was before 9/11

Rilose · 01-03-2003, 03:40 PM

they are fucking dicks right now..trust me i go back and forth all year long and they still hassle me with proper id..they will probably give you a hard time so bring whatever you can.

GTS Mark · 01-03-2003, 03:42 PM

Call immigration canada and see if you can get an emergency passport. That is what I did one time when I was flying internationally and I lost my passport.

DH

Rilose · 01-03-2003, 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by DrinkingHard
Call immigration canada and see if you can get an emergency passport. That is what I did one time when I was flying internationally and I lost my passport.

DH

good call actually, I would suggest getting your passport pic done today at your local camera/pic place..it's like $10 bucks give or take a few !

dacash · 01-03-2003, 04:03 PM

thanks alote guys i'm allready calling the Passport branch or canada

dacash · 01-03-2003, 04:04 PM

Thanks to DrinkingHard idea i should mean i'm calling the passport line right now..

p00p · 01-03-2003, 04:07 PM

Go to a Quickie Mart or a sign making company and have some Arab make you a passport and other false ID for a couple hundred bucks.

dacash · 01-03-2003, 04:08 PM

Well the guy at the Passport emergency place gave me a # for the Province place to get a Birth Certificate, but i don't think goverment employe is working weekends unless it's somehting new

i'm up to 8 rings and still ringing....

dacash · 01-03-2003, 04:09 PM

Well making a fake Birth Certificate isn't hard, but i don't want to get cough with it

dacash · 01-03-2003, 04:09 PM

22 rings and still no anwser

NoCarrier · 01-03-2003, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by dacash
22 rings and still no anwser

After 4pm on friday, it's over. You have to wait until monday morning.

Emergency passport? Naahh.. It takes around 3-4 weeks to receive it normally.. I think if it's urgent, it will take less than a week.. a couple of days maybe.. forget about the passport. Also, you need a birth certificate for the passport, so you are fucked anyway.

http://www.ppt.gc.ca/passports/how_obtain_e.asp

Proof of Canadian citizenship
For persons born in Canada, you must provide either your:

Birth certificate (issued by the province or territory of birth) or
Certificate of Canadian Citizenship

For persons born outside Canada, you must provide one of the four citizenship documents below:

Certificate of Canadian Citizenship

Certificate of Naturalization

Certificate of Retention of Canadian Citizenship

Certificate of Registration of Birth Abroad

yys · 01-03-2003, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by DrinkingHard
Call immigration canada and see if you can get an emergency passport. That is what I did one time when I was flying internationally and I lost my passport.

DH

You can also contact your local federal MP and they can get you a new passport quickly.

dacash · 01-03-2003, 04:38 PM

can anyone say the Magic Word to me, "YOUR FUCKED"

dacash · 01-03-2003, 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by yys

You can also contact your local federal MP and they can get you a new passport quickly.

Would a Provincial MP work?

Socks · 01-03-2003, 04:45 PM

You could have gotten a new birth certificate printed the same day mang, bad timing.. :/

I wish you luck!

WiredGuy · 01-03-2003, 04:46 PM

For my first convention I didn't have a passport (this is post-911) but drivers license and medicare and I still had to show them birth certificate. Crossing the border from Canada you MUST have Passport OR birth certificate and minimum 1 photo ID with you. I would say air canada is full of shit telling you photo ID's are enough.

WG

gregtx · 01-03-2003, 04:54 PM

damn... Ask Steve from LIghtspeed how hard it was to get back to the US after the Montreal show...

you are pretty much fucked unless you can find an emergency passport office...

WiredGuy · 01-03-2003, 04:55 PM

I also wanted to add that you can get a birth certificate via overnight carrier for about $50. I had to do this and it was very quick and I had no problems with 2 photo ID's. Assuming of course your friend is Canadian born...

WG

dacash · 01-03-2003, 04:58 PM

i'm so pissed!

dacash · 01-03-2003, 05:00 PM

yes she is Canadian born, but the thing is how can i get htat printed on a Saterday... I dont' mind driving to their offfice it's only 1:30 hour from here which is ok, but i don't know if they are open on Saterday ( i doubt it) and i was told if i can get my local Deputy for hte provincial goverment to move their ass i could maybe get it done tomorrow.

Ah shit

yys · 01-03-2003, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by dacash
yes she is Canadian born, but the thing is how can i get htat printed on a Saterday... I dont' mind driving to their offfice it's only 1:30 hour from here which is ok, but i don't know if they are open on Saterday ( i doubt it) and i was told if i can get my local Deputy for hte provincial goverment to move their ass i could maybe get it done tomorrow.

Ah shit

I don't know how much help a provincial mp will be for a passport seeing as it's a federal document; maybe they could help you with a birth certificate because it's provincial. Just remember that it's harder to get a birth certificate nowadays. You need 'respected and upstanding' members of the community that you know to vouche for you(signed document) such as your doctor, a minister/priest or a judge.

WiredGuy · 01-03-2003, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by dacash
yes she is Canadian born, but the thing is how can i get htat printed on a Saterday... I dont' mind driving to their offfice it's only 1:30 hour from here which is ok, but i don't know if they are open on Saterday ( i doubt it) and i was told if i can get my local Deputy for hte provincial goverment to move their ass i could maybe get it done tomorrow.

Ah shit

Ok, there's one other option you might have. My friend once lost his passport about 4 days before he had to go to Cayman Islands and he couldn't get a replacement in time since he's not from Canada. What he did was contacted the police HQ in your city and ask for their (I think) immigration clearance department/officer. Essentially what they do for a fee (no clue how much) is look thru your photo ID's, SIN, drivers license, etc... and check your criminal record and run it for security checks. Assuming she has no criminal record, the police department will issue a certificate that states that your not a security risk and have cleared Canadian security checks. It might not be enough but this is one step closer to what US Immigration is looking for.

But in all due honesty, I would say your friend is screwed until monday at the least. I hope you have a late night flight where immigration lines are short, otherwise the officer will reject you and kick you out right away.

WG

dacash · 01-03-2003, 05:28 PM

well Passport i kno is out of the Question, the only other hope is if we can find her Birth Certificate, and i have been Talking to my local MLA, with a couple phone call i got his private home number

let me tell you, he is not the sharpest tool in the shed... But he will try to do somehting for me!

So Thank you very much to everyone for all the help i'll keep you posted on my hunt!

NetRodent · 01-03-2003, 05:36 PM

Your friend is most likely screwed but she might get lucky. I'd advise making every effort to obtain the required documents (or as much proof of identity as possible) but even if she can't get them, she should still try to fly. Even post 9/11 I've driven into the US without having to show my passport. The conversation with the border guard usually goes something like: "Where do you live? Where are you going? How long? Have a nice day..."

dacash · 01-03-2003, 05:49 PM

I know how they are, we have some chance on our side, we don't wear towel on are head, we don't look like where form the mild east and it's only Halifax Airpot...

I found out something, that out of the 10 people i called tonight regarding this, 9 of 10 was very helpful , only 1 was a fucking bitch or asshole, i don't know if it was a Male or female or evena Trannie...

Well i got a couple numbers to call tomorrow, and that person is turning her place upside down to see if she would be lucky and find it...

ok now time to pray!

dacash · 01-03-2003, 06:13 PM

Well all is good! damn i just got a call from George bush.... nah i got a call sayign that she has a Old passport from 1998 and a photo copie that her mom found of the birth certificate of the whole family. If that isn't enought well they can GFY

THANK YOU AGAIN everyone and see you in Vegas!

PaulSweet · 01-03-2003, 07:10 PM

I certainly wouldn't cross the border without at least the Birth Certificate and a Drivers License....

If they actually let your 4th person into the USA you can expect a big hassle on your way back into Canada....

Dusen · 01-03-2003, 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by dacash
I know how they are, we have some chance on our side, we don't wear towel on are head, we don't look like where form the mild east and it's only Halifax Airpot...

You around Halifax? I'm just across the bay.

czarkazm · 01-03-2003, 07:46 PM

I'm mistaken for a terrorist everytime I fly down south.

yys · 01-03-2003, 07:53 PM

I Remember the good ole days when you could show up at the crossing in Niagra at 3:00am with a car load of peeps and just by stating your citizenship they'd wave you through.

Does anyone in the Vancouver area ever go down to Point Roberts? They used to just wave me through without even opening the window when I'd pull up. That place is great for cheap beer, smokes and gas. I had a friend who's house backed onto the border and we'd go over and buy cartons of smokes and cases of beer and just drive up to their backyard and toss the shit over the fence. Somedays I wish I still lived out there.

dacash · 01-03-2003, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by Dusen

You around Halifax? I'm just across the bay.

I am in Moncton NB

01-03-2003, 03:31 PM	#1
dacash Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: some where in a basement Posts: 609	Anyone Canadian that flies to the US well here is the problem, we are 4 going tot he convention, and the thing is that 3 of us are ok (we got all the required ID to go) but the fourth person doesn't have a Passport or Birth Certificat... I called Air Canada, and they said that she needs to bring her Drivers License with photo ID and SS# CArd and Medicare CArd ( Goverment issued card). So ok they say that. But before the 9/11 my sister and her husband and 2 years old daughter was going to Florida, and her husband forgot his Birth Certificate, they wouldn't let him get on the plane until someone faxed in the Birth Certificate. So is Air Canada full of shit, or was it that maybe it was a random thing that happen to my brother inlaw? And we are leaving tomorrow, and YES i told everyone what they needed, and the fourth person just told me she didn't have the Birth Certificate... So what is your tough? __________________ ____________ Marc

01-03-2003, 03:36 PM	#2
McAttack Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 625	Well if you can get some confirmation from AC on this, a written authorization or something. You MIGHT have an argument and they'd let you through, but they shouldn't give you any probs with lots of ID. But seriously, no Birth Certificate? Make sure you go EXTRA early to the airport with this person, explain that you're bringing everybody for a convention is Vegas, blah blah blah. Don't try to go last minute and hope they'll say "Ah ok just go" cause that doesn't work. Last time I had a friend fly to the US without all those papers was before 9/11 __________________ You know Teen Kelly converts like crazy.

01-03-2003, 03:40 PM	#3
Rilose Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 565	they are fucking dicks right now..trust me i go back and forth all year long and they still hassle me with proper id..they will probably give you a hard time so bring whatever you can. __________________ GFX/WEB/PRINT r i l o s e @ h o t m a i l . d o t c o m

01-03-2003, 04:03 PM	#6
dacash Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: some where in a basement Posts: 609	thanks alote guys i'm allready calling the Passport branch or canada __________________ ____________ Marc

01-03-2003, 04:04 PM	#7
dacash Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: some where in a basement Posts: 609	Thanks to DrinkingHard idea i should mean i'm calling the passport line right now.. __________________ ____________ Marc

01-03-2003, 03:42 PM	#4
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	Call immigration canada and see if you can get an emergency passport. That is what I did one time when I was flying internationally and I lost my passport. DH

01-03-2003, 04:07 PM	#8
p00p Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: CanaDUH Posts: 5,125	Go to a Quickie Mart or a sign making company and have some Arab make you a passport and other false ID for a couple hundred bucks.

01-03-2003, 04:08 PM	#9
dacash Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: some where in a basement Posts: 609	Well the guy at the Passport emergency place gave me a # for the Province place to get a Birth Certificate, but i don't think goverment employe is working weekends unless it's somehting new i'm up to 8 rings and still ringing.... __________________ ____________ Marc

01-03-2003, 04:09 PM	#10
dacash Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: some where in a basement Posts: 609	Well making a fake Birth Certificate isn't hard, but i don't want to get cough with it __________________ ____________ Marc

01-03-2003, 04:09 PM	#11
dacash Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: some where in a basement Posts: 609	22 rings and still no anwser __________________ ____________ Marc

01-03-2003, 04:38 PM	#14
dacash Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: some where in a basement Posts: 609	can anyone say the Magic Word to me, "YOUR FUCKED" __________________ ____________ Marc

01-03-2003, 04:45 PM	#16
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	You could have gotten a new birth certificate printed the same day mang, bad timing.. :/ I wish you luck!

01-03-2003, 04:46 PM	#17
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,484	For my first convention I didn't have a passport (this is post-911) but drivers license and medicare and I still had to show them birth certificate. Crossing the border from Canada you MUST have Passport OR birth certificate and minimum 1 photo ID with you. I would say air canada is full of shit telling you photo ID's are enough. WG __________________ I play with Google.

01-03-2003, 04:54 PM	#18
gregtx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,929	damn... Ask Steve from LIghtspeed how hard it was to get back to the US after the Montreal show... you are pretty much fucked unless you can find an emergency passport office... __________________ Processing Partners http://www.processingpartners.com

01-03-2003, 04:55 PM	#19
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,484	I also wanted to add that you can get a birth certificate via overnight carrier for about $50. I had to do this and it was very quick and I had no problems with 2 photo ID's. Assuming of course your friend is Canadian born... WG __________________ I play with Google.

01-03-2003, 04:58 PM	#20
dacash Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: some where in a basement Posts: 609	i'm so pissed! __________________ ____________ Marc

01-03-2003, 05:00 PM	#21
dacash Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: some where in a basement Posts: 609	yes she is Canadian born, but the thing is how can i get htat printed on a Saterday... I dont' mind driving to their offfice it's only 1:30 hour from here which is ok, but i don't know if they are open on Saterday ( i doubt it) and i was told if i can get my local Deputy for hte provincial goverment to move their ass i could maybe get it done tomorrow. Ah shit __________________ ____________ Marc

01-03-2003, 05:28 PM	#24
dacash Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: some where in a basement Posts: 609	well Passport i kno is out of the Question, the only other hope is if we can find her Birth Certificate, and i have been Talking to my local MLA, with a couple phone call i got his private home number let me tell you, he is not the sharpest tool in the shed... But he will try to do somehting for me! So Thank you very much to everyone for all the help i'll keep you posted on my hunt! __________________ ____________ Marc

01-03-2003, 05:36 PM	#25
NetRodent Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: In the walls of your house. Posts: 3,985	Your friend is most likely screwed but she might get lucky. I'd advise making every effort to obtain the required documents (or as much proof of identity as possible) but even if she can't get them, she should still try to fly. Even post 9/11 I've driven into the US without having to show my passport. The conversation with the border guard usually goes something like: "Where do you live? Where are you going? How long? Have a nice day..." __________________ "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --H.L. Mencken

01-03-2003, 05:49 PM	#26
dacash Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: some where in a basement Posts: 609	I know how they are, we have some chance on our side, we don't wear towel on are head, we don't look like where form the mild east and it's only Halifax Airpot... I found out something, that out of the 10 people i called tonight regarding this, 9 of 10 was very helpful , only 1 was a fucking bitch or asshole, i don't know if it was a Male or female or evena Trannie... Well i got a couple numbers to call tomorrow, and that person is turning her place upside down to see if she would be lucky and find it... ok now time to pray! __________________ ____________ Marc

01-03-2003, 06:13 PM	#27
dacash Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: some where in a basement Posts: 609	Well all is good! damn i just got a call from George bush.... nah i got a call sayign that she has a Old passport from 1998 and a photo copie that her mom found of the birth certificate of the whole family. If that isn't enought well they can GFY THANK YOU AGAIN everyone and see you in Vegas! __________________ ____________ Marc

01-03-2003, 07:10 PM	#28
PaulSweet Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 1,094	I certainly wouldn't cross the border without at least the Birth Certificate and a Drivers License.... If they actually let your 4th person into the USA you can expect a big hassle on your way back into Canada.... __________________ PG4L! Home to the MAX HARDCORE video Plugin!

01-03-2003, 07:46 PM	#30
czarkazm Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 225	I'm mistaken for a terrorist everytime I fly down south.

01-03-2003, 07:53 PM	#31
yys Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,922	I Remember the good ole days when you could show up at the crossing in Niagra at 3:00am with a car load of peeps and just by stating your citizenship they'd wave you through. Does anyone in the Vancouver area ever go down to Point Roberts? They used to just wave me through without even opening the window when I'd pull up. That place is great for cheap beer, smokes and gas. I had a friend who's house backed onto the border and we'd go over and buy cartons of smokes and cases of beer and just drive up to their backyard and toss the shit over the fence. Somedays I wish I still lived out there.