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fetishwealth · 06-25-2010, 09:38 AM

I'm getting a ton PPS requests from chatters and hear a lot of bad stories about chat traffic so I'm curious what are the ways they can scam me....

Im thinking of making a trial review period for these accounts and i'm wondering how far into the future can their sales chargeback or credit?

Any input on the potential scams to look for will be appreciated!

cardinalvices · 06-25-2010, 09:40 AM

They will simply offer your customers more than you have. So in return you get a higher % of chargebacks, that are hitting you up with fines. In the end you loose a billing processor due to high quanitity of chargebacks.. I think

Jayvis · 06-25-2010, 09:48 AM

Ask them to promote you on a revshare basis only and see what happens.

Furious_Male · 06-25-2010, 09:56 AM

Not only will they over promise but they will send your surfer to multiple sponsors in one session.

For example the fake girl gets a horny guy on the hook. He wants to see her live. She requests that he signs up to your site. After he signs up he says "well how do I see you?" She will just say something is wrong but why doesn't he try this link instead (dropping a link to another program). They repeat this process until the surfer gives up.

Meanwhile Joe Blow signed up to 2-3+ sponsors and didn't see what he thought he was going to see. He will cancel and CB all of the transactions.

CHARGER · 06-25-2010, 10:10 AM

i take that traffic if you or any of you guys wants to recive a referal for any chatter that send to me please contact me on icq lets make $$$

bullbucks.com

fetishwealth · 06-25-2010, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHARGER

i take that traffic if you or any of you guys wants to recive a referal for any chatter that send to me please contact me on icq lets make $$$

bullbucks.com

Hey BJ,

What do you do to prevent fraud?

CHARGER · 06-25-2010, 10:46 AM

there is a loooong list of things to check in order to prevent fraud 50% of those are scammers but the rest is good traffic

hit me up on icq

LeRoy · 06-25-2010, 10:53 AM

There's a good reason why they (chatters) will not promote revshare.

It never rebills. If it does then it will charge back months later.

Wizzo · 06-25-2010, 11:14 AM

Then on top of it, many if not all of them will toss in the stolen CC # every few joins so you can expect those to comeback as well...

Bryan G · 06-25-2010, 11:16 AM

Dont waste your time.

CHARGER · 06-25-2010, 11:26 AM

the funny part is that imlive ifriends and webcams 3 big enough sites are taking that traffic since years ago and still taking it

CHARGER · 06-25-2010, 11:31 AM

i ve been doing alot of research about this type of traffic and found out this

www.chatsales.com and chatterpower.com belongs to webcams

enticecash.com belongs to imlive

www.clickcash.com from ifriends

the 3 of them taking that traffic and the 3 of em im sure that are bigger than the 80% of us so i guess that we are doing something wrong

regards

BJ

LeRoy · 06-25-2010, 11:39 AM

Im not saying I wont take it.

Send as much as you can. It's on revshare plan though.

All chatters will ask for PPS and will never go revshare.

Furious_Male · 06-25-2010, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHARGER

i ve been doing alot of research about this type of traffic and found out this

www.chatsales.com and chatterpower.com belongs to webcams

enticecash.com belongs to imlive

www.clickcash.com from ifriends

the 3 of them taking that traffic and the 3 of em im sure that are bigger than the 80% of us so i guess that we are doing something wrong

regards

BJ

Big difference between inhouse chat spam operations and the independent operations.

La_Sexorcist · 06-25-2010, 01:23 PM

They like to pretend they are a model that doesn't exist... bait the poor schmuck along to sign up to see her, and then she doesn't exist and said schmuck gets pissed and cancels. But the chatter gets a commission out of it I guess?

CHARGER · 06-25-2010, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furious_Male

Big difference between inhouse chat spam operations and the independent operations.

100% of those 3 sites only use independent promoters

imlive, webcams , ifriends

SykkBoy · 06-25-2010, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furious_Male

Not only will they over promise but they will send your surfer to multiple sponsors in one session.

outside of carders, this is the biggest problem with chatters...multiple sponsors.

You'll also get better results from Panamanian chatters versus Philippino chatters...

and never ever ever ever trust chatters (or anyone for that matter) from Vietnam, as Wizzo will tell you

Abbie · 06-25-2010, 04:49 PM

We had a HORRIBLE recent experience with them. Fortunately we caught them and didn't pay them out, however, it did result in chargebacks. Of course they only want PPS and won't even touch revshare

hehe.

Basically a user would sign up for one of their sites, then the company or whomever would take that credit card info and buy a bunch of fake memberships to diff sites in our program...blatant theft. It was nuts. It's the first and LAST chatters program I'll ever work with.

These particular people who hit us were based in the philipines.

theonlinedatingclub.com
thelovefind.com
onlineloveseekers.com

all came to us via:

Dan Padilla
gdci.biz

So be very careful. I highly recommend NOT going that route.

xxxjay · 06-25-2010, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayvis

Ask them to promote you on a revshare basis only and see what happens.

Truer words have never been spoken.

Some of the chat traffic is legit, but you have to keep a very watchful eye on it. They also card quite a bit.

CHARGER · 06-25-2010, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

outside of carders, this is the biggest problem with chatters...multiple sponsors.

You'll also get better results from Panamanian chatters versus Philippino chatters...

and never ever ever ever trust chatters (or anyone for that matter) from Vietnam, as Wizzo will tell you

correct im getting good results with panamaniams

and also US and canadian chatters

never ever ever trust a phillipino or anyone from vietnam

GrouchyAdmin · 06-25-2010, 05:12 PM

Is it 2007 for anybody else in this thread?

Abbie · 06-25-2010, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHARGER

correct im getting good results with panamaniams

and also US and canadian chatters

never ever ever trust a phillipino or anyone from vietnam

lesson learned

(re: phillipino chatters)

AK · 06-25-2010, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayvis

Ask them to promote you on a revshare basis only and see what happens.

babymaker · 06-25-2010, 05:53 PM

Prob would work for cams and dating, not so good for paysites.

CHARGER · 06-25-2010, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babymaker

Prob would work for cams and dating, not so good for paysites.

that is 100% correct do not try it with something else besides cams or dating or you will get back tons of cb

angeleyes · 06-25-2010, 09:51 PM

I certainly can not speak for all of them, but from experience 99% of them were scammers on different levels so the company no longer accepts it, gave them fair warning that their traffic would no to stop their traffic and they would just create new accounts and didn't claim to be ''chatter traffic'' expecting not be caught.

...CC Fraud and using VERY deceptive 'promotions' to get the user to enter their cc info, so basically the customer thought they would be getting one thing, got another...

Again, this is just from my personal experience, I'm sure there are honest chat traffic webmasters out there as I do know 2.

angeleyes · 06-25-2010, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abbie

lesson learned

(re: phillipino chatters)

YEP, That seems to be the only place they are located. lol

CHARGER · 06-25-2010, 10:06 PM

that is because you are taking phillipinos never ever take a phillipino chatter

panamaniams , US and canadians are good for dating and cams

papill0n · 06-25-2010, 10:17 PM

chat traffic is perfect for greedy idiots

enjoy

TheSenator · 06-25-2010, 10:26 PM

Yahoo Chat was a gold mine during 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 then it just went to shit.

Miguel · 06-26-2010, 05:02 AM

All their signups are 100% fradulent. They are just carders.
I can prove you that (privately)

andrew-acs · 06-30-2010, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fetishwealth

I'm getting a ton PPS requests from chatters and hear a lot of bad stories about chat traffic so I'm curious what are the ways they can scam me....

Im thinking of making a trial review period for these accounts and i'm wondering how far into the future can their sales chargeback or credit?

Any input on the potential scams to look for will be appreciated!

Alright, I've been in chat traffic since I was 14 years old and now I am 23 so I know how it works, the only thing you have to do is to choose the right group and choose the right membership ( choose full membership ) and mostly chatters are doing carders, I know it because I also handled a program for chat traffic. Working with my partner almost 1 year now never been into trouble because we know how to control their sales.

Adam_M · 06-30-2010, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayvis

Ask them to promote you on a revshare basis only and see what happens.

But sir, what about PPS sir?

hypedough · 06-30-2010, 11:10 PM

Chat traffic is junk and sure to get your processing dumped.

AdPatron · 06-30-2010, 11:33 PM

Tell people to go to www.pornless.com

Nick-Mindgeek · 06-30-2010, 11:44 PM

"

Sir, why no pay?

"

...

lol ...enough said.

Naechy · 07-01-2010, 12:47 AM

enough is enough

YDG · 07-01-2010, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickfwd

"

Sir, why no pay?

"

...

lol ...enough said.

Funnily enough, you always know a scam affiliate because he calls you 'Sir' on icq.

In addition, they are always do chat traffic and 90% of the time are from the Philippines. Due to bad experiences in the past we no longer accept anyone who does Chat Traffic, comes from the Philippines, or calls you Sir.

Or contacts you on ICQ asking when they are getting paid.

darksoul · 07-01-2010, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YDG

Funnily enough, you always know a scam affiliate because he calls you 'Sir' on icq.

In addition, they are always do chat traffic and 90% of the time are from the Philippines. Due to bad experiences in the past we no longer accept anyone who does Chat Traffic, comes from the Philippines, or calls you Sir.

Or contacts you on ICQ asking when they are getting paid.

Sir, promote your program ?
Do you pay ?

ro8in · 07-01-2010, 01:14 AM

They just scam visitors into paying for your site. They promise things like that will get real dates with porn models etc. You'll receive loads of chargebacks and if you do depend on rebills don't expect to see any. My advice is stay away from any affiliate that calls you sir.

06-25-2010, 09:38 AM	#1
fetishwealth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,424	Chat Traffic Scams? I'm getting a ton PPS requests from chatters and hear a lot of bad stories about chat traffic so I'm curious what are the ways they can scam me.... Im thinking of making a trial review period for these accounts and i'm wondering how far into the future can their sales chargeback or credit? Any input on the potential scams to look for will be appreciated!

06-25-2010, 09:40 AM	#2
cardinalvices Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,084	They will simply offer your customers more than you have. So in return you get a higher % of chargebacks, that are hitting you up with fines. In the end you loose a billing processor due to high quanitity of chargebacks.. I think __________________ Cardinal Vices Studio - your one stop shop for webdesign! Paysites \| Consulting \| Tube sites \| TGPs \| Galleries/Banner ads \| Flash peel ads Start your own cam site - Get Live Cam Site Solution

06-25-2010, 09:56 AM	#4
Furious_Male Doing the grind since 99 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 16,881	Not only will they over promise but they will send your surfer to multiple sponsors in one session. For example the fake girl gets a horny guy on the hook. He wants to see her live. She requests that he signs up to your site. After he signs up he says "well how do I see you?" She will just say something is wrong but why doesn't he try this link instead (dropping a link to another program). They repeat this process until the surfer gives up. Meanwhile Joe Blow signed up to 2-3+ sponsors and didn't see what he thought he was going to see. He will cancel and CB all of the transactions. __________________ Living in Virtual Reality Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

06-25-2010, 10:10 AM	#5
CHARGER Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Somewhere between hell and heaven Posts: 551	i take that traffic if you or any of you guys wants to recive a referal for any chatter that send to me please contact me on icq lets make $$$ bullbucks.com __________________ 592577093<---- icq me.... LET THE PLAYA PLAY

06-25-2010, 10:46 AM	#7
CHARGER Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Somewhere between hell and heaven Posts: 551	there is a loooong list of things to check in order to prevent fraud 50% of those are scammers but the rest is good traffic hit me up on icq __________________ 592577093<---- icq me.... LET THE PLAYA PLAY

06-25-2010, 09:48 AM	#3
Jayvis Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 5,427	Ask them to promote you on a revshare basis only and see what happens.

06-25-2010, 10:53 AM	#8
LeRoy Porn Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: It's a dry heat Posts: 13,339	There's a good reason why they (chatters) will not promote revshare. It never rebills. If it does then it will charge back months later. __________________ JAPANESE CAMS AND CONTENT SITES Teams - leroy.rowland2 Telegram - @lroddd

06-25-2010, 11:14 AM	#9
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	Then on top of it, many if not all of them will toss in the stolen CC # every few joins so you can expect those to comeback as well... __________________ Looking for Opportunity!

06-25-2010, 11:16 AM	#10
Bryan G Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,338	Dont waste your time. __________________ Bryan skype: bryan.glass3 \| ICQ 302999591

06-25-2010, 11:26 AM	#11
CHARGER Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Somewhere between hell and heaven Posts: 551	the funny part is that imlive ifriends and webcams 3 big enough sites are taking that traffic since years ago and still taking it __________________ 592577093<---- icq me.... LET THE PLAYA PLAY

06-25-2010, 11:31 AM	#12
CHARGER Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Somewhere between hell and heaven Posts: 551	i ve been doing alot of research about this type of traffic and found out this www.chatsales.com and chatterpower.com belongs to webcams enticecash.com belongs to imlive www.clickcash.com from ifriends the 3 of them taking that traffic and the 3 of em im sure that are bigger than the 80% of us so i guess that we are doing something wrong regards BJ __________________ 592577093<---- icq me.... LET THE PLAYA PLAY

06-25-2010, 11:39 AM	#13
LeRoy Porn Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: It's a dry heat Posts: 13,339	Im not saying I wont take it. Send as much as you can. It's on revshare plan though. All chatters will ask for PPS and will never go revshare. __________________ JAPANESE CAMS AND CONTENT SITES Teams - leroy.rowland2 Telegram - @lroddd

06-25-2010, 01:23 PM	#15
La_Sexorcist Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 337	They like to pretend they are a model that doesn't exist... bait the poor schmuck along to sign up to see her, and then she doesn't exist and said schmuck gets pissed and cancels. But the chatter gets a commission out of it I guess?

06-25-2010, 04:49 PM	#18
Abbie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,004	We had a HORRIBLE recent experience with them. Fortunately we caught them and didn't pay them out, however, it did result in chargebacks. Of course they only want PPS and won't even touch revshare hehe. Basically a user would sign up for one of their sites, then the company or whomever would take that credit card info and buy a bunch of fake memberships to diff sites in our program...blatant theft. It was nuts. It's the first and LAST chatters program I'll ever work with. These particular people who hit us were based in the philipines. theonlinedatingclub.com thelovefind.com onlineloveseekers.com all came to us via: Dan Padilla gdci.biz So be very careful. I highly recommend NOT going that route. Last edited by Abbie; 06-25-2010 at 04:50 PM..

06-25-2010, 05:12 PM	#21
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06-25-2010, 05:53 PM	#24
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06-25-2010, 09:51 PM	#26
angeleyes Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wandering around FL using random Wireless Connections Posts: 3,584	I certainly can not speak for all of them, but from experience 99% of them were scammers on different levels so the company no longer accepts it, gave them fair warning that their traffic would no to stop their traffic and they would just create new accounts and didn't claim to be ''chatter traffic'' expecting not be caught. ...CC Fraud and using VERY deceptive 'promotions' to get the user to enter their cc info, so basically the customer thought they would be getting one thing, got another... Again, this is just from my personal experience, I'm sure there are honest chat traffic webmasters out there as I do know 2. __________________ Need a Writer? Contact Me. I write quality descriptions, short erotic stories, quality one-liners.. whatever you need. Last edited by angeleyes; 06-25-2010 at 09:52 PM..

06-25-2010, 10:06 PM	#28
CHARGER Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Somewhere between hell and heaven Posts: 551	that is because you are taking phillipinos never ever take a phillipino chatter panamaniams , US and canadians are good for dating and cams __________________ 592577093<---- icq me.... LET THE PLAYA PLAY

06-25-2010, 10:17 PM	#29
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	chat traffic is perfect for greedy idiots enjoy

06-25-2010, 10:26 PM	#30
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06-26-2010, 05:02 AM	#31
Miguel Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Serious-Cash.com Posts: 2,978	All their signups are 100% fradulent. They are just carders. I can prove you that (privately) __________________ Serious Cash: 27 niche sites - step fantasy, teen, amateur, anal, hardcore, reality [Kinky Family] [Brutal X] [Fucking Glasses] [18 Videoz] [Teeny Lovers] [Sell Your Gf] [Dirty Flix] and others great sites...

06-30-2010, 11:10 PM	#34
hypedough Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Now running NATS4: HypeDough.com! Posts: 3,743	Chat traffic is junk and sure to get your processing dumped. __________________ Ricky D :: Hype Dough President \| XBIZ.net \| ICQ 172-939-826 AIM+Skype HypeDough \| [NATS4] Kayden420: ['09 '10 '11 XBIZ Nominee \| Exclusive & HD] \| ThePornScout: [Exclusive + Reality \| Amateurs Want to Become Pornstars]

06-30-2010, 11:33 PM	#35
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06-30-2010, 11:44 PM	#36
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07-01-2010, 12:47 AM	#37
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07-01-2010, 01:14 AM	#40
ro8in Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,542	They just scam visitors into paying for your site. They promise things like that will get real dates with porn models etc. You'll receive loads of chargebacks and if you do depend on rebills don't expect to see any. My advice is stay away from any affiliate that calls you sir. __________________ ------ Offcourse its a dude posting here. Probably a fut ugly one too. Fuck still people falling for this 100 year old trick Last edited by ro8in; 07-01-2010 at 01:15 AM..