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fetishwealth 06-25-2010 09:38 AM

Chat Traffic Scams?
 
I'm getting a ton PPS requests from chatters and hear a lot of bad stories about chat traffic so I'm curious what are the ways they can scam me....

Im thinking of making a trial review period for these accounts and i'm wondering how far into the future can their sales chargeback or credit?

Any input on the potential scams to look for will be appreciated!

cardinalvices 06-25-2010 09:40 AM

They will simply offer your customers more than you have. So in return you get a higher % of chargebacks, that are hitting you up with fines. In the end you loose a billing processor due to high quanitity of chargebacks.. I think

Jayvis 06-25-2010 09:48 AM

Ask them to promote you on a revshare basis only and see what happens.

Furious_Male 06-25-2010 09:56 AM

Not only will they over promise but they will send your surfer to multiple sponsors in one session.

For example the fake girl gets a horny guy on the hook. He wants to see her live. She requests that he signs up to your site. After he signs up he says "well how do I see you?" She will just say something is wrong but why doesn't he try this link instead (dropping a link to another program). They repeat this process until the surfer gives up.

Meanwhile Joe Blow signed up to 2-3+ sponsors and didn't see what he thought he was going to see. He will cancel and CB all of the transactions.

CHARGER 06-25-2010 10:10 AM

i take that traffic if you or any of you guys wants to recive a referal for any chatter that send to me please contact me on icq lets make $$$


bullbucks.com

fetishwealth 06-25-2010 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHARGER (Post 17279055)
i take that traffic if you or any of you guys wants to recive a referal for any chatter that send to me please contact me on icq lets make $$$


bullbucks.com

Hey BJ,

What do you do to prevent fraud?

CHARGER 06-25-2010 10:46 AM

there is a loooong list of things to check in order to prevent fraud 50% of those are scammers but the rest is good traffic

hit me up on icq

LeRoy 06-25-2010 10:53 AM

There's a good reason why they (chatters) will not promote revshare.

It never rebills. If it does then it will charge back months later.

Wizzo 06-25-2010 11:14 AM

Then on top of it, many if not all of them will toss in the stolen CC # every few joins so you can expect those to comeback as well...

Bryan G 06-25-2010 11:16 AM

Dont waste your time.

CHARGER 06-25-2010 11:26 AM

the funny part is that imlive ifriends and webcams 3 big enough sites are taking that traffic since years ago and still taking it

CHARGER 06-25-2010 11:31 AM

i ve been doing alot of research about this type of traffic and found out this


www.chatsales.com and chatterpower.com belongs to webcams

enticecash.com belongs to imlive

www.clickcash.com from ifriends


the 3 of them taking that traffic and the 3 of em im sure that are bigger than the 80% of us so i guess that we are doing something wrong


regards


BJ

LeRoy 06-25-2010 11:39 AM

Im not saying I wont take it.

Send as much as you can. It's on revshare plan though.

All chatters will ask for PPS and will never go revshare.

Furious_Male 06-25-2010 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHARGER (Post 17279317)
i ve been doing alot of research about this type of traffic and found out this


www.chatsales.com and chatterpower.com belongs to webcams

enticecash.com belongs to imlive

www.clickcash.com from ifriends


the 3 of them taking that traffic and the 3 of em im sure that are bigger than the 80% of us so i guess that we are doing something wrong


regards


BJ


Big difference between inhouse chat spam operations and the independent operations.

La_Sexorcist 06-25-2010 01:23 PM

They like to pretend they are a model that doesn't exist... bait the poor schmuck along to sign up to see her, and then she doesn't exist and said schmuck gets pissed and cancels. But the chatter gets a commission out of it I guess?

CHARGER 06-25-2010 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furious_Male (Post 17279628)
Big difference between inhouse chat spam operations and the independent operations.

100% of those 3 sites only use independent promoters :2 cents:

imlive, webcams , ifriends

SykkBoy 06-25-2010 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furious_Male (Post 17279021)
Not only will they over promise but they will send your surfer to multiple sponsors in one session.

outside of carders, this is the biggest problem with chatters...multiple sponsors.

You'll also get better results from Panamanian chatters versus Philippino chatters...

and never ever ever ever trust chatters (or anyone for that matter) from Vietnam, as Wizzo will tell you :)

Abbie 06-25-2010 04:49 PM

We had a HORRIBLE recent experience with them. Fortunately we caught them and didn't pay them out, however, it did result in chargebacks. Of course they only want PPS and won't even touch revshare :) hehe.

Basically a user would sign up for one of their sites, then the company or whomever would take that credit card info and buy a bunch of fake memberships to diff sites in our program...blatant theft. It was nuts. It's the first and LAST chatters program I'll ever work with.

These particular people who hit us were based in the philipines.

theonlinedatingclub.com
thelovefind.com
onlineloveseekers.com

all came to us via:

Dan Padilla
gdci.biz

So be very careful. I highly recommend NOT going that route.

xxxjay 06-25-2010 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayvis (Post 17278997)
Ask them to promote you on a revshare basis only and see what happens.

Truer words have never been spoken.

Some of the chat traffic is legit, but you have to keep a very watchful eye on it. They also card quite a bit.

CHARGER 06-25-2010 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2 (Post 17280025)
outside of carders, this is the biggest problem with chatters...multiple sponsors.

You'll also get better results from Panamanian chatters versus Philippino chatters...

and never ever ever ever trust chatters (or anyone for that matter) from Vietnam, as Wizzo will tell you :)



correct im getting good results with panamaniams :thumbsup and also US and canadian chatters :thumbsup never ever ever trust a phillipino or anyone from vietnam

GrouchyAdmin 06-25-2010 05:12 PM

Is it 2007 for anybody else in this thread?

Abbie 06-25-2010 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHARGER (Post 17280067)
correct im getting good results with panamaniams :thumbsup and also US and canadian chatters :thumbsup never ever ever trust a phillipino or anyone from vietnam

lesson learned :( (re: phillipino chatters)

AK 06-25-2010 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayvis (Post 17278997)
Ask them to promote you on a revshare basis only and see what happens.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

babymaker 06-25-2010 05:53 PM

Prob would work for cams and dating, not so good for paysites.

CHARGER 06-25-2010 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babymaker (Post 17280141)
Prob would work for cams and dating, not so good for paysites.



that is 100% correct do not try it with something else besides cams or dating or you will get back tons of cb

angeleyes 06-25-2010 09:51 PM

I certainly can not speak for all of them, but from experience 99% of them were scammers on different levels so the company no longer accepts it, gave them fair warning that their traffic would no to stop their traffic and they would just create new accounts and didn't claim to be ''chatter traffic'' expecting not be caught.

...CC Fraud and using VERY deceptive 'promotions' to get the user to enter their cc info, so basically the customer thought they would be getting one thing, got another...

Again, this is just from my personal experience, I'm sure there are honest chat traffic webmasters out there as I do know 2.

angeleyes 06-25-2010 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abbie (Post 17280072)
lesson learned :( (re: phillipino chatters)


YEP, That seems to be the only place they are located. lol

CHARGER 06-25-2010 10:06 PM

that is because you are taking phillipinos never ever take a phillipino chatter

panamaniams , US and canadians are good for dating and cams

papill0n 06-25-2010 10:17 PM

chat traffic is perfect for greedy idiots

enjoy :1orglaugh

TheSenator 06-25-2010 10:26 PM

Yahoo Chat was a gold mine during 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 then it just went to shit.

Miguel 06-26-2010 05:02 AM

All their signups are 100% fradulent. They are just carders.
I can prove you that (privately)

andrew-acs 06-30-2010 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fetishwealth (Post 17278969)
I'm getting a ton PPS requests from chatters and hear a lot of bad stories about chat traffic so I'm curious what are the ways they can scam me....

Im thinking of making a trial review period for these accounts and i'm wondering how far into the future can their sales chargeback or credit?

Any input on the potential scams to look for will be appreciated!

Alright, I've been in chat traffic since I was 14 years old and now I am 23 so I know how it works, the only thing you have to do is to choose the right group and choose the right membership ( choose full membership ) and mostly chatters are doing carders, I know it because I also handled a program for chat traffic. Working with my partner almost 1 year now never been into trouble because we know how to control their sales. :)

Adam_M 06-30-2010 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayvis (Post 17278997)
Ask them to promote you on a revshare basis only and see what happens.

But sir, what about PPS sir? :thumbsup

hypedough 06-30-2010 11:10 PM

Chat traffic is junk and sure to get your processing dumped.

AdPatron 06-30-2010 11:33 PM

Tell people to go to www.pornless.com

Nick-Mindgeek 06-30-2010 11:44 PM

"

Sir, why no pay?


"

...

lol ...enough said.

Naechy 07-01-2010 12:47 AM

enough is enough

YDG 07-01-2010 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickfwd (Post 17293647)
"

Sir, why no pay?


"

...

lol ...enough said.

:1orglaugh
Funnily enough, you always know a scam affiliate because he calls you 'Sir' on icq.

In addition, they are always do chat traffic and 90% of the time are from the Philippines. Due to bad experiences in the past we no longer accept anyone who does Chat Traffic, comes from the Philippines, or calls you Sir.

Or contacts you on ICQ asking when they are getting paid.

darksoul 07-01-2010 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YDG (Post 17293774)
:1orglaugh
Funnily enough, you always know a scam affiliate because he calls you 'Sir' on icq.

In addition, they are always do chat traffic and 90% of the time are from the Philippines. Due to bad experiences in the past we no longer accept anyone who does Chat Traffic, comes from the Philippines, or calls you Sir.

Or contacts you on ICQ asking when they are getting paid.

Sir, promote your program ?
Do you pay ?

ro8in 07-01-2010 01:14 AM

They just scam visitors into paying for your site. They promise things like that will get real dates with porn models etc. You'll receive loads of chargebacks and if you do depend on rebills don't expect to see any. My advice is stay away from any affiliate that calls you sir.


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