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Coup · 06-24-2010, 07:12 AM

Remembering comrade Stalin

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Most criticisms of Joseph Stalin are nothing more than de-contextualized liberal ones. MSH is aware that it is extremely unpopular to uphold Stalin in the U$. Asking for a fair hearing on the Stalin question by Amerikans is like asking for a fair hearing for Osama Bin Laden. There is much new scholarship on Stalin since the opening of the Soviet archives that complicates the cold war image of the Stalin era. Yet Amerikans still cling to their cartoonish ideas about socialist societies. This isn?t surprising considering that Amerikans get their history from James Bond and Disney cartoons like Anastasia. Maybe a few Amerikans, between pondering the mysteries of catsup history or the bigfoot-ufo connection, catch a ?documentary? about the Soviet Union on the ?History? Channel. A few Amerikans read horrible anti-communist shams like the Black Book of Communism. Obviously, we don?t expect Amerikan goobers to change their opinions anytime soon. MSH encourages our readers who are interested in history to take a look at the new scholarship. It is important to note that Stalin is still very popular in the third world and in ex-Soviet nations. In any case, MSH does not shape its line around popularity. MSH shapes its line around truth.

MSH upholds Mao Zedong?s verdict on Stalin that, in his historic context, he should be judged as 70% correct. This is just a way of saying that while Stalin made major errors, he should be upheld overall.

Stalin led the Soviet Union to build the first industrialized socialist state. Under Stalin?s leadership, the Soviet Union advanced at breakneck speed to become a socialist superpower. Without Stalin?s foresight about the need for rapid industrial development, the Soviet Union would have been run over by the Nazis.

The Soviet Union, under Stalin?s leadership, saved the world from fascism and the eastward expansion of the Nazi settler empire. Hitler correctly compared the eastward expansion of Germany to the Amerikan westward expansion. The Soviet Union beat back the Nazi genocidal expansion and briefly imposed a dictatorship of the proletariat on the reactionary German population. This is an important precedent for Maoists. Nazi imperialism was not defeated from within, it was defeated from without. Since there is no significant Amerikan proletariat, we too should look outside the borders of the United $tates for the forces that will spearhead Amerika?s defeat.

In addition, Stalin was a promoter of the line that there is a Black nation, whose homeland is the Black Belt lands of the South. The line was imposed on the White chauvinist Communist Party (U$A) by Stalin. Stalin stood up for the Black internal semi-coloney within U$ borders.

Fake-Maoists have been attacking Stalin as a way to undermine global people?s war against the first world. They have been attacking Stalin as a way to promote Trotskyism, White nationalism and social fascism. They attack Stalin to attack national liberation and self-determination for oppressed nations. The fakes have been using Stalin as a bogy in the same way that they have been using Lin Biao, and even Jiang Qing to a lesser extent. It is important to understand what was wrong about Stalin, but it is equally important to understand what was correct about Stalin. In this spirit, MSH is honoring all that is correct about Stalin.

Paul Robeson sings the ?Stalin anthem? of the USSR:

CaptainHowdy · 06-24-2010, 07:30 AM

I'm in tears...

sperbonzo · 06-24-2010, 07:57 AM

Ask a Ukrainian about good ol' "Uncle Joe". Ask anyone that escaped the Soviet Union during his time for that matter. After all, what's 20 million people, more or less?

You crack me up with this stuff Coup!!!!

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mafia_man · 06-24-2010, 08:20 AM

Thanks Stalin for stopping the Nazis.

I then retract my thanks for gulags, killing Trotsky and turning what could have been a great country into a horrible authoritarian state tarnishing communism's good intentions forever.

Edit: And starving the Ukrainians

iseeyou · 06-24-2010, 08:47 AM

Stalin did not stop the Nazi's. The Soviet soldiers and officers stopped the Nazi's. Do not even think that Stalin was some kind of military genius.

Stalin weakened the Soviet military by purging (executing) officers but stopped the purges when WW2 began.

Before ww2, Stalin was making more "mistakes" than Adolf Hitler. But during ww2, Stalin made less mistakes than Hitler. That is the only good thing I can say about Stalin.

DaddyHalbucks · 06-24-2010, 08:52 AM

Utter crap.

Stalinism is better than Nazism? They are virtually the same thing.

Actually, Stalin killed more people than Hitler.

BestXXXPorn · 06-24-2010, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Utter crap.

Stalinism is better than Nazism? They are virtually the same thing.

Actually, Stalin killed more people than Hitler.

qft ... pro-Stalins are misguided

DEA - banned for life · 06-24-2010, 09:01 AM

Coup..word of advice...Stick to making threads like" Marijuana is a Poison"

iseeyou · 06-24-2010, 09:05 AM

MrBottomTooth · 06-24-2010, 09:34 AM

That's all well and good, but he's dead, so who gives a fuck.

The Demon · 06-24-2010, 09:42 AM

Stalin's regime killed close to 50 million of his own people. But +1 for the Op for not knowing dick about 20th century history. Keep it up Coup!

kowalsky · 06-24-2010, 09:54 AM

Stalin was a murder. In USA, Rusia, Australia or Argentina, anyone knows that. Giving a politic excuse to a murder is to be accomplice and ignorant respect of history.

I love the history of the communist movement all around Europe, but Stalin is just a fucking HUGE mistake.

Cyber Fucker · 06-24-2010, 11:19 AM

The more you post the more I don't like you.

mafia_man · 06-27-2010, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kowalsky

Stalin was a murder. In USA, Russia, Australia or Argentina, anyone knows that. Giving a politic excuse to a murder is to be accomplice and ignorant respect of history.

I love the history of the communist movement all around Europe, but Stalin is just a fucking HUGE mistake.

Most communism was a huge mistake.

Take Stalin: Gulags and Ukraine.
Take Mao: Famine to pay for nuclear weapons.
Pol Pot: Year zero, completely fucking insane attempt to rewrite history.
Kim Jong Il: See the current press.

Even dictators in Romania and other European countries were tyrants.

However the main point to remember is that none of these so called "communist" states were actually communist at all. Dictatorships and oligarchies but not communist.

Where was the worker owned means of production? There wasn't any because these were state capitalist countries.

mayabong · 06-27-2010, 11:01 AM

No no no hitler was worse, keep the spotlight on him the holocaust industry needs to keep profits soaring. Thanks!

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JamesK · 06-27-2010, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mafia_man

However the main point to remember is that none of these so called "communist" states were actually communist at all. Dictatorships and oligarchies but not communist.

Yep, good point

Coup · 06-27-2010, 02:14 PM

xmas13 · 06-27-2010, 07:22 PM

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xmas13 · 06-27-2010, 07:25 PM

http://www.ted.com/talks/philip_zimb...y_of_evil.html

PornMD · 06-27-2010, 11:36 PM

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hypedough · 06-28-2010, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Ask a Ukrainian about good ol' "Uncle Joe". Ask anyone that escaped the Soviet Union during his time for that matter. After all, what's 20 million people, more or less?

You crack me up with this stuff Coup!!!!

.

Took the words right out of my mouth. Stalin was just as bad as Hitler to his own people.

iseeyou · 06-28-2010, 02:27 AM

Some people (such as Stalin or Hitler) decide to do "whatever it takes" to achieve their goals. The result is they do more harm than good, much more harm than good.

In life, it's more important *what you dont do* than *what you do*.

If you dont achieve your goals and end up starving, homeless on the street, then you only hurt yourself and maybe (indirectly) some people in your family. But if you steal from/kill half of the people to benefit the other half of the people, then you are killing/destroying society ....... even if the goals are noble such as more jobs (for the survivors) or more food (for the survivors). That's why religion has been moderately successful and somewhat resilient. Most religions teach that following rules is more important than outcomes (getting what you want). Sports are similiar. Players who believe in "our victory,through any means" are promoting a system which leads to short-sighted selfishness and eventual destruction as players destroy each other to achieve their goals (win).

Coup · 06-28-2010, 05:47 AM

CaptainHowdy · 06-28-2010, 05:58 AM

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iseeyou So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 306	Stalin did not stop the Nazi's. The Soviet soldiers and officers stopped the Nazi's. Do not even think that Stalin was some kind of military genius. Stalin weakened the Soviet military by purging (executing) officers but stopped the purges when WW2 began. Before ww2, Stalin was making more "mistakes" than Adolf Hitler. But during ww2, Stalin made less mistakes than Hitler. That is the only good thing I can say about Stalin.

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