Email Marketing will be obsolete soon? - GoFuckYourself.com

$5 submissions · 06-17-2010, 06:51 PM

Pretty shocking assertion http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_615816.html

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Is email becoming obsolete?

Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg seems to think so.

At Nielsen's Consumer 360 conference on Tuesday, Sandberg said that only 11% of teens use email daily.

"If you want to know what people like us will do tomorrow," she told a crowded conference hall, "you look at what teenagers are doing today." She then predicted that email is "probably going away." "I can't imagine life without it," she added.

This is big news for businesses and online advertisers because Facebook may connect consumers and advertisers more easily (and directly) than email.

AdPatron · 06-17-2010, 06:56 PM

Wrong.

2012 · 06-17-2010, 06:57 PM

Facebook will save us all. Facebook is the second coming of Jesus for the Internets

Sly · 06-17-2010, 06:58 PM

I didn't realize teens were doing a lot of business.

Are college students going to Twitter with their professors?

sortie · 06-17-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions

Pretty shocking assertion http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_615816.html

I was just thinking a few days ago that I can't rely on email anymore.
It's just garbage.

I started to make a post about how spammers ruined a very good communication
system.

I white-list my sponsors and that's it for email.

No way can someone "contact me with an offer" unless I have set something up
and I'm expecting it.

VHNet · 06-17-2010, 07:08 PM

Teens aren't using e-mail because they have almost no reason to. Their lives are instant gratification, everything is within the distance they can walk to/from (or ride bikes yay!).

E-mail's not used until they get further into the "system" of daily life - college, work, etc.

Not to mention that teenagers are likely not even your target market for making sales.

What are they going to put on their resume? "[email protected]/myprofile" for their e-mail? How do you send in a resume on Monster via facebook?

Did e-mail kill postal mail? Everyone thought it would - and sure the amount of postal mail has probably decreased since the invention/adoption of worldwide e-mail services. But it's still around, our taxes are still paying postal workers salaries...and....guess what? If you need to ship an eBay product from NC to SD...unless you have some magic system that I've only seen in movies...it can't be done without postal mail.

There's a place for every technology, new or old.

Zorgman · 06-17-2010, 07:10 PM

What a load of horse shit.
Email is not going away anytime soon.

Lightning · 06-17-2010, 07:14 PM

email will never go away imho..

Domain Diva · 06-17-2010, 07:32 PM

I agree with the report in many ways....excluding those who do business on the net ..most of the people I know dont use email much but communicate via social networks and tools such as facebook chat etc...some use twitter.... or sms text....

TheDoc · 06-17-2010, 07:47 PM

eMail how we know it today, was history once xml/rss came out. Basically social networks are the same thing but with a pretty user interface. It's kinda smart really - spam is damn near killed.

You no longer will random contacting people (ie spam email) work, you are subscribed to them directly. If you're not subscribed to them, you can't spam them.. if you are and you spam them, they can drop you and you can't ever spam them again.

Now lets bring in gMail.. while it's still email, they archive conversions together. You have to subscribe to me to text, voice or video chat - which can also archive your conversion. Google is moving deeper into the contacts working like social friends, allowing you to communicate without email.

It will only take some unix based xml/rss subscribe email system, that works with current email to come around... and everything will change, really fast.

kane · 06-17-2010, 07:52 PM

I don't think email is going anywhere soon. I think it will evolve. Like The Doc said Gmail brought email into a more conversation/texting type of world and I think we will see more of this. Teens don't use email because they don't need it, but I would have trouble doing much of anything without it and I would guess many others would as well.

I suppose eventually it could be replaced by instant messaging, but then you open that up to a whole world where you could end up with thousands of contacts and not know who most of them are.

marketsmart · 06-17-2010, 07:54 PM

teenagers aren't in the job market yet where email is used to conduct business...

email is not going anywhere..

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mynameisjim · 06-17-2010, 08:02 PM

Wait, so the Facebook COO talked about how important Facebook is? Amazing!!!! I'm pretty sure when the Microsoft COO gives a speech he talks about a crucial Windows will be in the future.

That's about one step above a press release at best.

As far as teenagers, nobody is doing any of the stuff I did as a teenager so not sure if her theory holds true. Not to mention, the next batch of teenagers after them hates all the stuff the previous generation did so they do new stuff. Teen trends are a market all their own, they don't have much direct impact on future trends other than it will fade very quickly and not be repeated for several generations. If anything I would say look to what teens are doing now and you can bet teens WON'T be doing it in a few years

AdPatron · 06-17-2010, 08:13 PM

Facebook will disappear in less than 5 years.

Domain Diva · 06-17-2010, 08:16 PM

I was surprised to find out ( maybe everyone knew but me

) that FaceBook now on some days gets more page views than the mighty Google...thats crazy !!! I had no idea it was that big and still growing.

Sausage · 06-17-2010, 08:49 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA !

Yeah .. email marketing is dead ... my 1:20 ratios from optin mailouts this week are just in my imagination

BFT3K · 06-17-2010, 09:32 PM

This is the future bitches!

$5 submissions · 06-18-2010, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 2012

Facebook will save us all. Facebook is the second coming of Jesus for the Internets

Judging from bh blogs, FB is rapidly slowing down in its chase for spiced ham.

$5 submissions · 06-18-2010, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberClaire

I was surprised to find out ( maybe everyone knew but me

) that FaceBook now on some days gets more page views than the mighty Google...thats crazy !!! I had no idea it was that big and still growing.

And many different ways to get traffic too

Kiopa_Matt · 06-18-2010, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberClaire

excluding those who do business on the net

But which adults don't use the internet for work these days? Almost everyone does now.

E-mail's not going anywhere.

Kiopa_Matt · 06-18-2010, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

I don't think email is going anywhere soon. I think it will evolve. Like The Doc said Gmail brought email into a more conversation/texting type of world and I think we will see more of this.

Agreed. Something like Google's new Wave product / service, but well, better. It's currently a hunk of shit, IMHO.

I could see a new e-mail-type protocol being developed, which over the next 5 years slowly replaces e-mail itself though. Like you said, more conversational / thread based, with better organization of contacts. No more of this CC: bullshit. Sometimes you'll have five people involved in a conversation, all CCing each other. You leave for a few hours, and come back to 28 e-mails in your inbox, and it takes you 15 minutes to go through everyone to figure out what's going on. I think that type of thing will definitely change.

kmanrox · 06-18-2010, 02:00 AM

regardless what teens use to communicate, they'll all have email addresses they check.

dirtymind · 06-18-2010, 02:36 AM

teen agers don't have a lot of money, they have it when they are around 20 then they also have less time to spend every freaking minute on facebook or some other crap like that. Email is easy on your phone and pc. Don't see it going away any time soon.

Domain Diva · 06-18-2010, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RDFrame

But which adults don't use the internet for work these days? Almost everyone does now.

E-mail's not going anywhere.

I didnt say email would die or is dying.....just pointed out that more and more people are using facebook chat and other messenger type/social networking tools to communicate.

Think about it ..if most are on skype...facebook etc and it has a built in chat system or in skypes case audio ...why bother with email in most cases.

Im a student..all my friends are students ..everyone around me is young and I see what they are doing ...and email has and is becoming more and more less of a main communication tool compared to 3 yrs ago...if you see it different fine....this is just what I see in my social circle.

Sarah_Jayne · 06-18-2010, 02:53 AM

Probably wrong but I will agree that, while obviously not a teen, I use personal email a great deal less than I used to do. Most of my direct private messages to and from my friends come either through Facebook or Twitter. Business is still firmly rooted in email though.

BlackCrayon · 06-18-2010, 04:25 AM

teenagers don't buy anything anyways. and like others have mentioned, its all fun and games for them right now. texting won't cut it when you have to email the boss your big project.

BlackCrayon · 06-18-2010, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

eMail how we know it today, was history once xml/rss came out. Basically social networks are the same thing but with a pretty user interface. It's kinda smart really - spam is damn near killed.

You no longer will random contacting people (ie spam email) work, you are subscribed to them directly. If you're not subscribed to them, you can't spam them.. if you are and you spam them, they can drop you and you can't ever spam them again.

Now lets bring in gMail.. while it's still email, they archive conversions together. You have to subscribe to me to text, voice or video chat - which can also archive your conversion. Google is moving deeper into the contacts working like social friends, allowing you to communicate without email.

It will only take some unix based xml/rss subscribe email system, that works with current email to come around... and everything will change, really fast.

i still get plenty of spam emails every day. though almost none make it through to the inbox..spam is still pretty profitable I would assume if you know what you are doing. just a few years ago it was profitable for any idiot with dark mailer.

Paul Markham · 06-18-2010, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

teenagers aren't in the job market yet where email is used to conduct business...

email is not going anywhere..

.

Agreed. I can't see us sending FTP information via FB.

The day the needs of Teenagers dictate the direction of the Internet is the day we all go back to finding normal jobs. They want most things for free on the Net.

ottopottomouse · 06-18-2010, 05:13 AM

Email isn't going anywhere but if you want to jump the queue of unread email then text someone instead as people seem unable to ignore their phone.

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VHNet Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 386	Teens aren't using e-mail because they have almost no reason to. Their lives are instant gratification, everything is within the distance they can walk to/from (or ride bikes yay!). E-mail's not used until they get further into the "system" of daily life - college, work, etc. Not to mention that teenagers are likely not even your target market for making sales. What are they going to put on their resume? "[email protected]/myprofile" for their e-mail? How do you send in a resume on Monster via facebook? Did e-mail kill postal mail? Everyone thought it would - and sure the amount of postal mail has probably decreased since the invention/adoption of worldwide e-mail services. But it's still around, our taxes are still paying postal workers salaries...and....guess what? If you need to ship an eBay product from NC to SD...unless you have some magic system that I've only seen in movies...it can't be done without postal mail. There's a place for every technology, new or old. __________________ Bringing mainstream marketing to the Adult Industry ICQ: 221976033

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TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	eMail how we know it today, was history once xml/rss came out. Basically social networks are the same thing but with a pretty user interface. It's kinda smart really - spam is damn near killed. You no longer will random contacting people (ie spam email) work, you are subscribed to them directly. If you're not subscribed to them, you can't spam them.. if you are and you spam them, they can drop you and you can't ever spam them again. Now lets bring in gMail.. while it's still email, they archive conversions together. You have to subscribe to me to text, voice or video chat - which can also archive your conversion. Google is moving deeper into the contacts working like social friends, allowing you to communicate without email. It will only take some unix based xml/rss subscribe email system, that works with current email to come around... and everything will change, really fast. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

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AdPatron No commissions, no fees. Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: USA Posts: 17,706	Wrong.

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2012 So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 17,189	Facebook will save us all. Facebook is the second coming of Jesus for the Internets

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Lightning Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 870	email will never go away imho..

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kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	I don't think email is going anywhere soon. I think it will evolve. Like The Doc said Gmail brought email into a more conversation/texting type of world and I think we will see more of this. Teens don't use email because they don't need it, but I would have trouble doing much of anything without it and I would guess many others would as well. I suppose eventually it could be replaced by instant messaging, but then you open that up to a whole world where you could end up with thousands of contacts and not know who most of them are.

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marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	teenagers aren't in the job market yet where email is used to conduct business... email is not going anywhere.. .

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mynameisjim Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,985	Wait, so the Facebook COO talked about how important Facebook is? Amazing!!!! I'm pretty sure when the Microsoft COO gives a speech he talks about a crucial Windows will be in the future. That's about one step above a press release at best. As far as teenagers, nobody is doing any of the stuff I did as a teenager so not sure if her theory holds true. Not to mention, the next batch of teenagers after them hates all the stuff the previous generation did so they do new stuff. Teen trends are a market all their own, they don't have much direct impact on future trends other than it will fade very quickly and not be repeated for several generations. If anything I would say look to what teens are doing now and you can bet teens WON'T be doing it in a few years __________________ jim (at) amateursconvert . com Amateurs Convert Last edited by mynameisjim; 06-17-2010 at 08:04 PM..

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Sausage Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,012	HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! Yeah .. email marketing is dead ... my 1:20 ratios from optin mailouts this week are just in my imagination

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kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	regardless what teens use to communicate, they'll all have email addresses they check. __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

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dirtymind Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,348	teen agers don't have a lot of money, they have it when they are around 20 then they also have less time to spend every freaking minute on facebook or some other crap like that. Email is easy on your phone and pc. Don't see it going away any time soon. __________________ skype: codercarlos

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Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	Probably wrong but I will agree that, while obviously not a teen, I use personal email a great deal less than I used to do. Most of my direct private messages to and from my friends come either through Facebook or Twitter. Business is still firmly rooted in email though.

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BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	teenagers don't buy anything anyways. and like others have mentioned, its all fun and games for them right now. texting won't cut it when you have to email the boss your big project. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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