WTF?? I use them and I am never behind, but if I did get hit by a car or for some unknown reason did get behind this is not reassuring.

What did Amerinoc say to you?

Oh ok. Good to know.

Funny that it would ever be ok to be behind with a service company, but if a sponsor is a week late or so people scream, whine and moan. Any customer who is constantly behind, causes extra work, manual checks need to be done and follow ups and so on and so forth. I bet margins aren't that thick so they could afford to give an unmeasurable amount of leeway. At some point it's going to cost them more work and greif than you're bringing in, and at that time every business needs to pull the plug.

To say something like "I got comfortable being a month behind" is horrible in my ears. That means that you are in fact profiting, and virtually got a month for free by always being late and in theory earn interest on "their" money by keeping it for an extra month. It's one thing if it's a one time occurrence, but constantly, no that's not fair. To say something like "I wouldn't have paid the second half, had I know my stuff was gone" is also a strange way of looking at it. You requested and used a service, a service they provided upfront in return for payment afterwards. They have bills, cars, houses and stuff too that they need to pay for. Don't abuse someone's good will, you used a service and should of course pay in full and do the right thing, especially since you are not going bankrupt and even having/getting a fairly well paid job.

I pay yearly and get an acceptable discount for paying it all upfront. Which is also fair, less billing trouble, less follow ups and they get to earn interest on money they have still not provided service for, so a discount is good for both sides.

Sell a few domains or whatever, pay the bill, recover your sites, sell the sites and walk away on the plus side. I can't count the number of times I've sold out and started over from scratch over the years. As far as hosting scale back on the needs there if you decide to keep them up and running. My eyes are always bigger than my apetite when it somes to hosting needs as most peoples are.

Hey Cat, two things:

1. I want ALL your Avatars
2. If you have any content at all - any - i can make you free $, 0 work for you, 100% profit for you. ICQ me if interested.

Oh and a #3: Good luck with whatever you do, dude. See you when Alberta freezes. :D

For an angry jew cat, you're amazingly calm.

Sorry you lost everything. That's really got to suck. :(

Good luck AJC. Back to your railroad roots :)

Sorry to hear about your server jewcat. Hope it all works out for you though! If it makes you feel any better, the first girl I paid some serious cash to shoot with I accidentally deleted and lost the 2257 and releases so its been sitting on my computer worthless lol...

I havent been able to contact her since but coincidence I got a lead on her today hmm you might be surprised what you have backed up when you get around to looking.

Well since you're leaving... you should really let the cat out of the hat and share all your web secrets. Saturate the market with your methods so that you don't want to come back :)

Post specifics, programs, products, etc :)

lol

Sorry to hear that man.

i dont think thats his.

quick someone give him a job, hes desperate.. he will report every hour for any spare change you have.

I learned alot from you man, i guess ill keep in touch with you via msn or icq, you designed my first ever blog :)

i love you meng

I can host you sites if you want..?? you can put it on my server..whatever is left

Should build a list of all the sites, with asking price, - the payment owed to get the backups.

Sell it off, new owner takes over the server account, you make a few bucks, win-win.

I'm sure it's not worth 'less' then the server bill, so you will atleast walk away with something, and the buyer gets some older sites to play with, Amerinoc gets paid too.

Good luck :)

In light that half was deposited and pending, even though JEwCat was behind it does feel a little shitty. I think a better policy might be to take the servers offline while awaiting payment vs just wiping everything. I also wouldn't want the wipe to be an automatic process.

Just my two cents, I can understand a service provider being pissed and wanting their money. I can understand 100% taking action, but the action seems a little hardcore when you could have had the same effect and retained the customer. You can't argue if you hadn't wiped his stuff he would still be hosting with you.

Again, I understand everyone's position and not saying 4 months behind is cool. I couldn't skip out on my power bill for four months, but then again if I was 4 months behind they would just cut my power, not knock down my fucking house.

see u tomorrow

maybe that's their way of saying they don't want those customers anymore?

Why the fuck are most of you feeling sorry for AJC ? He admitted he was at fault; case closed. Stop being whiny bitches, especially if AJC's trying to pull some sympathy card and trying to get some lenience, which could be read either way.

i'll buy your domains.

shit! There is a lot of shitty things, what I'd like to know is what is left of your sites?

I'll pay your back log if you put your sites on my server, split profits, and then I want to know what the backup of sites is.

If your sites have been wiped then my deal is renigged

http://i47.tinypic.com/7166g3.jpg

you with your design skills shouldnt have any problem moving mainstream

good luck with whatever you'll end up doing :thumbsup

huh i love the jewcat but try and let any bill go that late ... a month late and you're sent to a collection agency.

phatservers is going way beyond what any company would do here ...

I suggest you wipe this asshats backups and tell him to go fuck himself.

7 days here, Everybody has got to make money including your server...

Why? Jewcat should have paid his bills ontime. I'm sure his mom still makes his bed and folds his socks and all but the hosting company doesn't have to babysit delinquent accounts .

most hosting companies wipe servers after 5 days late. 4 months is incredible really.

Well, I'd have to disagree.. Turn it off? maybe..

Imagine the stink that would come up if the Hosting would go down for even 1 day (not even talking 4 months here)

Why is the client allowed to ignore his part of the contract and the hosting company isn't?

If you can't afford to pay for hosting, get the fuck out of this business and apply to scrub toilets for your local FastFood joint. Don't dick people around.

Are we still trying to get done here?

my main hosts tos says they suspend at 3 wipe at 5 days late. for dedicated anyway.

bunch of luck dude!

Yep , doesnt surprise me.

I had never missed a past payment with "The Planet" (so not a small host) but because of a non payment ( I think it was 4-5 days) ...due to the fact I was on holiday.... my dedicated server was wiped clean and finished.....no back ups nothing.

Was it my own fault ....although I think it sucked ..yes it was. :( Looking back I could have prepaid some up front or made sure it didnt happen.

do business with www.oxeo.com they won't do a thing without first contacting you.

your "quick draw" hosting stories scare me.

well...polemic hoe

i always liked jewcat but he couldn't of been doing too well if hes 3 or 4 months behind on hosting.

good for you

Is he back yet?

What's up fix your shit and continue or it'll get even more boring over here

"doing well" can be very relative and it's hard to say what bills and obligations any given person has.

To clear anything up, here's the situation as of early this year. I was earning well and spending money like a mad fool late in 09 and coming into 2010. When that whole credit card fiasco hammered mainstream rebill offers I lost two of the best converting offers I had. I was getting $55/lead with payouts on demand from the network I was promoting through. Basically i got an instant payout whenever I wanted it, and I was growing fast. I was pouring money into longterm SEO projects and custom scripts to automate the building process, that wound up going nowhere. As soon as my campaigns went to hell I stopped and began spending foolishly on new PPC campaigns and burnt off a lot of money fast failing to find anything that stuck again. When offers started coming back, payouts had been significantly decreased, and finding a new offer that even converted on par was hard. That combo made making monies again difficult.

Where I was bringing in $500 daily in profit through November I was up to almost $1k/day by Christmas, almost overnight I found myself putting out hundreds a day with a negative return. I essentially went from the high point in my online career looking like the sky was the limit, to square one. You also gotta figure in my "nigga rich" spending on pointless new shit. New snowboard gear, new computer, buying rounds like crazy. Expensive Christmas gifts for the family and other dumbshit.

At this point I started experimenting with mainstream niche affiliate stores, which were doing well for small startups, but take time to build, and are slow going building up those earnings again when you're collecting 4-15% commissions. The intention was to continue rolling with this type of project. Mainstream niche stores coming into now were my primary earner. Most of which were built up SINCE the last available backup. Which leaves most of my promising projects toast.

My truck caked out on me and left me with a massive bill. Living in a resort town I continued partying spending more money that I probably shouldn't have. Expenses were racking up, and recovering my old earnings back to a point where they were enough to live off still was cutting it close. hence why I was quick to accept the offe4r of good paying job when it was offered to me again about a month back.

First priority was getting my truck running and insured again. I sent over an initial payment to cover what I could after getting my truck running again on my first paycheck, which I also hd to pay rent, insurance and my other bills out of. Getting back to work cost me a fair share to start with. new tools, new work gear, yadda yadda. I had hoped that the partial payment would buy me some til the next payday to cover my remaining debt. I guess it didn't. My fault.

The niche affiliate stores were showing promise, but take time to build up. My s4rver was down, a few people here new the situation and were waiting for things to come back up. I would have continued building them over the summer, and with things on course again, by fall I should have had a reasonable base built back up. With the start I had gone though, I just don't feel like starting over again. So be it. I'm working with a good company, collecting good paychecks on a regular schedule again, and to be honest it's kind of nice. It's not a bad life.

Come fall I'll take my layoff, and join what is formally referred to as the "EI Ski Team". I started in this whole business with the only intention being a way to pay for my snowboard seasons while I drank, got high, and enjoyed the slopes every day. God bless communism and it's support programs. So y, I'm essentially better off with no online income, which would hinder my employment insurance payouts, lol. So this winter I'll be snowboarding on the taxpayer's dime. Fuck it. This was never a career for me, just another job. All I've done is found a new one. Hell, it's the "Albertan Dream". Make big money for a few months, get layoff, then cruise by on EI payouts for the rest of the year.

I'll still be around in the future once in a while. But I'm an official surfer now. :1orglaugh

That, my friends, is a typical sad story and a Life Lesson for those still in the Adult Business.

Good luck man, seriously, and see you 'round the towns!

You had no backup? :helpme

I wouldn't give up If I was you. I think you have learned something and you can be more successful in the future.

Remember kids, always do backups, never put all eggs into one basket, never give up, if you feel hammered work even harder. Live to win.

There is an old backup. I'll see what comes out of it. There are a couple projects that I started right around then that may be salvageable. More than likely I'll just sell off whatever is remaining. The promising earners I had together were all newer niche stores built since the last backup.

I might change my mind in a while and see where I can continue going with that game plan. but t the moment I'm looking at the very least taking an extended break from things. A lot of it depends what I see come out of these old backups. If there's anything decent leftover I'll probably just move it to a cheap virtual server and let it live itself out and collect whatever change it brings in.

Hit me up Jewcat, I have something for you. :thumbsup

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