Originally Posted by kristin

You come wait in a hospital for eight hours, then tell me how you feel about the illegals. Our hospitals are so overrun here with illegals because they come here and live here illegally and have NO PREVENTIVE CARE. So they get sick, then sicker, and finally end up in the ER, costing the state tons with no chances of them ever paying it back.

But you are still waiting to be seen with your health insurance card and co-pay ready.

Originally Posted by Deej

Jesus, the gran daddy is getting around lately...

I see it everywhere...

Originally Posted by heymatty

That is not the case at all here in Scottsdale. Don't really see any waits on anything medical.

Last summer we had the bad luck to visit Cedar Sinai ER during the flu outbreak. Now that was a big wait time, not sure how many of the people waiting were legal or illegal.

Originally Posted by heymatty

That is not the case at all here in Scottsdale. Don't really see any waits on anything medical.

Last summer we had the bad luck to visit Cedar Sinai ER during the flu outbreak. Now that was a big wait time, not sure how many of the people waiting were legal or illegal.

Originally Posted by Atticus

Brad and Susie would pick grapes and clean toilets. They just arent retards and realize that cleaning a toilet is worth more than minimum wage. Once you remove the illegal immigration from the equation the less than desireable jobs (like cleaning up shit) become a lot more desirable due to the higher wages paid to do them.

Take the trash collector position. Here in Vegas Republic Services pays good $$ for their employees and people line up to do it. By your reasoning since illegal immigrants are not hired to do this job and it's beneath Brad and Suzie our trash would be sitting on the sidewalk and stinking up all of Vegas. But surprise surprise, they pay a good wage and its picked up like clock work twice a week.

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

i didnt know you were an I.R.S. employee.

Originally Posted by Fbomb

I didn't know you were an immigration employee.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

wish it would come down a bit. but then, i'm kind of remote..

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

thats one thing obama said he would do. punish american companies that move out of the united states.

Originally Posted by Atticus

And on a side topic, instead of creating a third political party based on nut jobs and fringe movements how about one grounded in moderate common sense. No liberal huggy feely handouts and no conservative god told us to do it rape of poor people. That party would win in a landslide.

Originally Posted by Atticus

Brad and Susie would pick grapes and clean toilets. They just arent retards and realize that cleaning a toilet is worth more than minimum wage. Once you remove the illegal immigration from the equation the less than desireable jobs (like cleaning up shit) become a lot more desirable due to the higher wages paid to do them.

Take the trash collector position. Here in Vegas Republic Services pays good $$ for their employees and people line up to do it. By your reasoning since illegal immigrants are not hired to do this job and it's beneath Brad and Suzie our trash would be sitting on the sidewalk and stinking up all of Vegas. But surprise surprise, they pay a good wage and its picked up like clock work twice a week.

Originally Posted by Deej

Been favoring the diesel lately, myself...

Originally Posted by Atticus

Brad and Susie would pick grapes and clean toilets. They just arent retards and realize that cleaning a toilet is worth more than minimum wage. Once you remove the illegal immigration from the equation the less than desireable jobs (like cleaning up shit) become a lot more desirable due to the higher wages paid to do them.

Take the trash collector position. Here in Vegas Republic Services pays good $$ for their employees and people line up to do it. By your reasoning since illegal immigrants are not hired to do this job and it's beneath Brad and Suzie our trash would be sitting on the sidewalk and stinking up all of Vegas. But surprise surprise, they pay a good wage and its picked up like clock work twice a week.

Originally Posted by Deej

Been favoring the diesel lately, myself...

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

No one wants to pick up shit. I don't care how much you're paying. No one is going to be 'lining up' for that job. Ever.

Originally Posted by baddog

Originally Posted by baddog

You can not be serious. This must be a troll effort.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Have you ever seen a single apocalyptic movie? What is the first thing that goes right out the window: Sanitation. There is trash and shit everywhere.

Brad and Susie would more likely sacrifice themselves to a hoard of zombies than be subjected to picking up someone else's shit.

On a serious note, take a look at any disaster we have, past, present or future.... sanitation is the first thing that is fucking wrecked. No one wants to pick up shit. I don't care how much you're paying. No one is going to be 'lining up' for that job. Ever.

Originally Posted by Atticus

I'm going to assume you're just stirring the pot because you cant be serious. I just gave you a clear example here in Vegas of people who are lining up to "clean up shit". Because they pay a great wage to do so.

Just because no amount of money would make you apply at a garbage company doesnt mean other hard working Americans share your view point.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

You really believe spikey-haired white suburbanite kids on skateboards, or teen girls with fake jewel-encrusted cell phones would "line up" for a shit-shoveling job? Let's say, cleaning the port-a-potties at the local fair. What century are you living in dude?

Any one of us can (and would) literally beg for money on the corner before we did that. And probably make more money, and certainly have a lot less misery.

Originally Posted by Deej

yes, they do line up to do this shit... because some know no better...

Go back to your 80' HD and 2foot bong

I mean... show me your new shit sucka before i stab you...

Originally Posted by Deej

yes, they do line up to do this shit... because some know no better...

Go back to your 80' HD and 2foot bong

I mean... show me your new shit sucka before i stab you...

Originally Posted by Deej

show me your new shit sucka before i stab you...

Originally Posted by jjmerago

Know no better what ... if you throw down at least have a point ... what don't spiked haired white kids from the 'burbs know better? The money and safety and opportunity to do anything with there lives other then clean shit, is that what they don't know?

I'm pretty sure no 'burb kids end up cleaning garbage until they waist the good life they had, the life any poor illegal would want, and trash it with meth and glue sniffing whilst they sit around and complain about mexicans stealing their jobs.

Idiots ...

Originally Posted by baddog

Can we take care of some stuff before you get sent to the pen?

Originally Posted by Deej

hit me up to discuss...

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

thats a racist area thats why.

Originally Posted by Jon Oso

I have lived in Scottsdale since 1998, it is affluent but certainly not racist. There are ghetto parts, there are rich parts, there are normal parts but I've never seen one part I'd consider racist. Hell down the street from me in South Scottsdale there's a carneceria (or whatever they're called) and there are a LOT of mexican people in the area.

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

the south end hispanics yes, im not going to go into details.

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

dude you dont have the right to look at my finances. i have the right to vote and support reform.

Originally Posted by Jon Oso

You're calling Scottsdale (where a few people on this board live) racist and won't go into details... gotcha.

Originally Posted by heymatty

Exactly where I live we are not racist at all. If we see a hispanic person we don't even care if they have papers or not as long as they are carrying a leaf blower!

Joke!

Originally Posted by mrjoint

@Amputate Your Head, I just realized you are just having fun stiring up shit.

Originally Posted by heymatty

Exactly where I live we are not racist at all. If we see a hispanic person we don't even care if they have papers or not as long as they are carrying a leaf blower!

Joke!

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

erecting a huge social welfare structure that pays people to do nothing

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

actually welfare is a life line for many it depends on what they do. If they want a better life. Tim allen used the welfare system and look at him hes rich now. he even did prison time and that didnt stop him.

Originally Posted by Fbomb

I bet he pays taxes

Originally Posted by SetTheWorldonFire

"Arizona's law is slated to take effect Jan. 1. It calls for up to a 10-day suspension of a business' state-issued licenses for the first violation of having "knowingly" hired an illegal worker. A second offense would require revocation of those licenses."

I think employers should also be deported.

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

already law my friend its almost 2 years active sub shop west phoenix was shut down cant open again he had i think 3 chances. deporting the owners is illegal their still americans tho they are traitors.

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

look f-bomb my paying taxes is none of your business if you think im breaking the law report me i have nothing to hide.

Originally Posted by SetTheWorldonFire

Illegals are'nt the problem, they would'nt have jobs if they dont get hired in the first place. you can't just let something happen for years and expect it all to go away. it's Hypocrisy!

Just like the oil spill, you'll have to wait till a disaster happens then start the blaming game. I'm a proud Mexican-Amercan, but Americans are growing with snitches, laziness and cowards. It's not getting any better either, this law is only dividing the country. More harm then good. America does'nt need this.

Originally Posted by Fbomb

You mean not paying taxes?