Its going to happen so what are you doing.. - GoFuckYourself.com

Darren · 01-01-2003, 03:42 AM

Visa are going to get rid of rebills for adult sites, this is GOING to happen, some people have even suggested it could be April, some of the main guys here probably even know the date.

Well what are you doing to prepare? I personally am looking forward to it, more than likely the best quality member section sites will survive, the sites which have caused visa to do this will probably change to better quality.

For ALL those that preach that there is nothing wrong in adding extra charges to members cards etc and hiding cancel links etc this is YOUR fault...

My plan is to build quality and hopefully this will get me through it, what about other people? Anyone got any ideas?

You could charge say 3 month memberships> etc

Darren · 01-01-2003, 03:44 AM

And yes I am babbling.....

Theo · 01-01-2003, 03:54 AM

it won't happen, happy end of the topic

Kick Ass Chat · 01-01-2003, 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
it won't happen, happy end of the topic

Hummmmm, it IS going to happen, he is right. It is actually already beginning in a small way, with all the excessive scrubbing, and the new rules and forms and info, etc..... there are major changes about to happen, ......that doesnt mean they are all bad changes, but they will have a major impact on the adult industry for sure.

Darren · 01-01-2003, 04:01 AM

who is looking forward to the change?

=^..^= · 01-01-2003, 04:01 AM

This is another of those half right half wrong threads

according to ppl who should be in the know - Aus being the home to many big industry players -somehting liek this IS going to hapen

however i dont think it will quite that drastic

*sigh* not a day goes by I dont see one of these "chicken little" threads

Darren · 01-01-2003, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by =^..^=
This is another of those half right half wrong threads

according to ppl who should be in the know - Aus being the home to many big industry players -somehting liek this IS going to hapen

however i dont think it will quite that drastic

*sigh* not a day goes by I dont see one of these "chicken little" threads

and no one asked u to reply so

Brujah · 01-01-2003, 04:22 AM

What do you mean exactly by "no rebills" ? They won't allow a person to charge a subscription to the same site twice ? Or that the processors can't automatically charge again ? How would they know otherwise if it was the member or the processor ? If the processors don't do it, what is to stop the site owners from collecting the information they need and doing it themselves ?

If it does happen that drastically, I predict that surfers are going to get fucked like never before when they start finding 100 new ways to charge the card for numerous transactions at once.

=^..^= · 01-01-2003, 04:25 AM

..as opposed to the 100 ways they get screwed now?

but seriously - Brujah you are right

as long as there is a way to get an extra buck out of a wanker - porn peddlars will find it

Paul Markham · 01-01-2003, 05:08 AM

I really do not see what you're worried about.

So you cannot automatically rebill a client, let's imagine for a minute this happens.

(1) The guy has logged and paid into a sex site once and is so horrified he was unable to cancel and installed Net Nanny to make sure he did not make the same mistake.
So the webmaster can no longer takes his money.

(2) The guy liked the site and when he could not log in at the end of the month he rejoins.
The god sites retain.

(3) The guy likes to jerk off to Internet porn, but logged onto a site that in 3 weeks he has seen all he wants to and moves on to another site.
The weaker sites will perish.

If we can do this it will only strengthen the Internet. Because the good sites will fall away and the sites left will show the surfer that this is the place to pick up cheap wanks.

The adult Internet is now over 10 years old and time to grow up. The days when you could start a site with a few sets are gone. The newbie has to either have a very deep pocket to get him established and through the learning/start up phase or go into the AVS, TGP areas.

He will be the only one to suffer, the rest of us will flourish. Because with a stronger, better and mere responsible Adult Internet we will attract more clients. Bringing more $$$ to the party.

Darren · 01-01-2003, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
I really do not see what you're worried about.

So you cannot automatically rebill a client, let's imagine for a minute this happens.

(1) The guy has logged and paid into a sex site once and is so horrified he was unable to cancel and installed Net Nanny to make sure he did not make the same mistake.
So the webmaster can no longer takes his money.

(2) The guy liked the site and when he could not log in at the end of the month he rejoins.
The god sites retain.

(3) The guy likes to jerk off to Internet porn, but logged onto a site that in 3 weeks he has seen all he wants to and moves on to another site.
The weaker sites will perish.

If we can do this it will only strengthen the Internet. Because the good sites will fall away and the sites left will show the surfer that this is the place to pick up cheap wanks.

The adult Internet is now over 10 years old and time to grow up. The days when you could start a site with a few sets are gone. The newbie has to either have a very deep pocket to get him established and through the learning/start up phase or go into the AVS, TGP areas.

He will be the only one to suffer, the rest of us will flourish. Because with a stronger, better and mere responsible Adult Internet we will attract more clients. Bringing more $$$ to the party.

Darren · 01-01-2003, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
I really do not see what you're worried about.

So you cannot automatically rebill a client, let's imagine for a minute this happens.

(1) The guy has logged and paid into a sex site once and is so horrified he was unable to cancel and installed Net Nanny to make sure he did not make the same mistake.
So the webmaster can no longer takes his money.

(2) The guy liked the site and when he could not log in at the end of the month he rejoins.
The god sites retain.

(3) The guy likes to jerk off to Internet porn, but logged onto a site that in 3 weeks he has seen all he wants to and moves on to another site.
The weaker sites will perish.

If we can do this it will only strengthen the Internet. Because the good sites will fall away and the sites left will show the surfer that this is the place to pick up cheap wanks.

The adult Internet is now over 10 years old and time to grow up. The days when you could start a site with a few sets are gone. The newbie has to either have a very deep pocket to get him established and through the learning/start up phase or go into the AVS, TGP areas.

He will be the only one to suffer, the rest of us will flourish. Because with a stronger, better and mere responsible Adult Internet we will attract more clients. Bringing more $$$ to the party.

agreed, content providers should get A LOT more biz as well.

fuxu · 01-01-2003, 05:14 AM

Or you can keep a list of you subscribers, and their info (unsafe, but profitable in this case), and you can pass em through a script which will automatically make them sign up again, and rebill them - run it every 30 days, BAM REBILLS!

Initial Signup > Record Information and Pay > When rebill comes around, redo the initial signup but dont make it record information, just keep em rebilling until they EMAIL YOU PERSONALLY.

There is a way around everything :-)

Darren · 01-01-2003, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fuxu
Or you can keep a list of you subscribers, and their info (unsafe, but profitable in this case), and you can pass em through a script which will automatically make them sign up again, and rebill them - run it every 30 days, BAM REBILLS!

Initial Signup > Record Information and Pay > When rebill comes around, redo the initial signup but dont make it record information, just keep em rebilling until they EMAIL YOU PERSONALLY.

There is a way around everything :-)

some how I think this would be errr illegal.

Paul Markham · 01-01-2003, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren

some how I think this would be errr illegal.

I think this is the type of webmaster Visa want to get away from.

Webmasters will have to sign up that they will not rebill automatically, they will have to state that on their site and if they do they will be facing criminal charges.

Learn it, this is now an industry and we have to start working like businessmen to survive.

jas1552 · 01-01-2003, 07:50 AM

What makes you so sure it's going to happen?

KRL · 01-01-2003, 08:01 AM

Change is good. The guys working smart and hard will always survive. The guys who know how to dance and INNOVATE will make the big money like always.

This industry is always changing so this is nothing new. There is always, always a way to get paid when there is a demand for a product or service. And the demand for PORN is INSATIABLE. It will never ever ever ever stop. It is at the core of every human being. Even our holy priests seem to have uncontrollable urges as we've now seen.

You guys shouldn't freak webmasters out like its the end of the world. The end of the world will never come in this business, its only going to get better and a cooler sexual experience for the customers as broadband expands and the new technologys keep advancing.

There are so many opportunities to make money in this business its unreal. You just have to be clever as a fox to know where the dollars are.

2003 is going to be the best year yet for online porn. All the Neg Folks can GFY!

Paul Markham · 01-01-2003, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jas1552
What makes you so sure it's going to happen?

I'm not sure that it will happen. I'm just hoping it will.

KRL
The only person we are freaking out are those with sites no ones wants to rejoin. Those with quality sites will survive.

I have survived in this industry for 26 years and never had to rely on "Standing Orders" "Rebills" etc.

Produce a good product and you'll survive.

jimmyf · 01-01-2003, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren

My plan is to build quality and hopefully this will get me through it, what about other people? Anyone got any ideas?

You could charge say 3 month memberships> etc

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Visa are going to get rid of rebills for adult sites, this is GOING to happen, some people have even suggested it could be April, some of the main guys here probably even know the date.
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I don't see this happening... Visa is about service.. I could be wrong but don't think so

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For ALL those that preach that there is nothing wrong in adding extra charges to members cards etc and hiding cancel links etc this is YOUR fault...
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These people will just find another way 2 fuck the surfer. Visa has 2 get rid of'm and find some way 2 keep'm from getting a Merchant account ( impossible maybe, will be a never ending job YES ). I could be wrong, but it just does not compute with me. Visa not allowing rebills..

KingK7 · 01-01-2003, 08:40 AM

Haha, great, another "the sky is falling" thread, and on january 1st, gotta love it.

And now every TGP-posting chump is going to throw in his "expert opinion".
This should be a long one.

Sambuka · 01-01-2003, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fuxu
Or you can keep a list of you subscribers, and their info (unsafe, but profitable in this case), and you can pass em through a script which will automatically make them sign up again, and rebill them - run it every 30 days, BAM REBILLS!

Initial Signup > Record Information and Pay > When rebill comes around, redo the initial signup but dont make it record information, just keep em rebilling until they EMAIL YOU PERSONALLY.

There is a way around everything :-)

Except that VISA is apparently making it so that only the IPSP's can handle the credti card info, I heard there banning sites from processing that themselfs, it has to be straight on the IPSP's secure page.

Who knows whats really going to happen. I don't, but lets specutate some more we're all good at that.

Sammy

Slick · 01-01-2003, 08:50 AM

How do you think that's gonna affect sponsor payouts ??? When a sponsor pays a webmaster for a join, they're banking on getting the rebills to make their profits, if they can't get the rebills, what will they do, knock down the payouts or shave like mad, he he he.

Pornwolf · 01-01-2003, 09:12 AM

I'm sure AOL is going to have to stop rebilling customers... and AT&T... and my cable company... and my daily newspaper subscription will stop... and Columbia House... oh, and I can't forget my utility bills that are on auto rebill.... It just ain't gonna happen folks.

Slick · 01-01-2003, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
I'm sure AOL is going to have to stop rebilling customers... and AT&T... and my cable company... and my daily newspaper subscription will stop... and Columbia House... oh, and I can't forget my utility bills that are on auto rebill.... It just ain't gonna happen folks.

Ooooooh, I never realized that part of it, that's true, what about all of the other companies that rebill ??? I suppose that they'll just limit it to adult sites, but that'd be hypocritical

jammyjenkins · 01-01-2003, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KingK7
Haha, great, another "the sky is falling" thread, and on january 1st, gotta love it.

And now every TGP-posting chump is going to throw in his "expert opinion".
This should be a long one.

Dinky-dau

you don't actually have any friends do you?

playa · 01-01-2003, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
I'm sure AOL is going to have to stop rebilling customers... and AT&T... and my cable company... and my daily newspaper subscription will stop... and Columbia House... oh, and I can't forget my utility bills that are on auto rebill.... It just ain't gonna happen folks.

exactly,, if visa stop rebills just for porn sites then you better believe that Visa will have a serious lawsuit going on,

nocostporn · 01-01-2003, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
I'm sure AOL is going to have to stop rebilling customers... and AT&T... and my cable company... and my daily newspaper subscription will stop... and Columbia House... oh, and I can't forget my utility bills that are on auto rebill.... It just ain't gonna happen folks.

adult is high risk,they can just stop rebills for high risk accounts

quiet · 01-01-2003, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nocostporn

adult is high risk,they can just stop rebills for high risk accounts

someone's been paying attention.

nocostporn · 01-01-2003, 09:58 AM

and nobody "knows" when its going to happen if it does so I don't know what this freak is talking about... I've seen people TRY to act like they're on the inside "oh I heard from a close source at Visa rebill will maybe be ending fall 2003"...hmmmm Yes let's all jump on this maybe train...

playa · 01-01-2003, 10:00 AM

and you don't think VISA could face a lawsuit from the industry?

nocostporn · 01-01-2003, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa
and you don't think VISA could face a lawsuit from the industry?

what would the terms of the lawsuit be? If they cut your rebills,they are also cutting theirs...

nocostporn · 01-01-2003, 10:07 AM

don't see this happening for a few years,they will add a ton of more rules, regulations and fee's until it seems hopeless then they'll hit us hard....

playa · 01-01-2003, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nocostporn

what would the terms of the lawsuit be? If they cut your rebills,they are also cutting theirs...

basically Visa is a monopoly, they are attempting to ruin an industry and apply a rule which is not fair

i can't recall what the legal word is, but i know many industries have faced something similar...

cable,telephone,gas for example

REMbraNT · 01-01-2003, 10:18 AM

Don't give ideas like this for Visa!

All this is just a simple theory until it's officially published!

so quit this

Pornwolf · 01-01-2003, 10:47 AM

I do think they are gonna slap a whole lot of regulations like "If your chargeback ratio is ##% you will lose your ability to rebill" that's the most effective way to stamp us out. They will never be able to stop rebills across the board though.

This is only going to make it so some enterprising mainstream billing companies that process so many mainstream accounts that a porn company won't make a dent in their ratios will pick up IBill and CCBill's big porn accounts. This will include a lot of ramifications that we can talk about for days.

The state of the union will change but the business will survive.

KingK7 · 01-01-2003, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jammyjenkins

Dinky-dau

you don't actually have any friends do you?

Why, you trying to become one?
I am ok with you being gay and all.
Wanna play?

UnseenWorld · 01-01-2003, 02:27 PM

Well, I think the future of rebills will be not be no rebills, but a move to monthly reminders that (something like) "Your subscription to SexGoatDorm.com will be expiring on 01/16/03. May we rebill your card ****-****-****-4567 at that time?"

I think the CC companies just want to keep making money without so many chargeback hassles.

jammyjenkins · 01-01-2003, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KingK7

Why, you trying to become one?
I am ok with you being gay and all.
Wanna play?

Jive · 01-01-2003, 02:38 PM

UnseenWorld does have the idea sorta? my opinion..

If they decide to drop the trial then that's actually a good thing!
then I can and other webmaster's aren't in need of any sponsor's
or afilliate programs, you see it would be a pay to enter one shot
no rebills and if they bail so what?you still make your $$
in the long run it would be hassle free.. more automated.
the sponsor's wouldn't be shaving you! be it rev-share or?
they need to stop the greed keep the fingers off the shave buttons like you can do on ccbill,ibill etc.. the best
revshare program that was ever introduced online then fucked up
was PMB.. but greed stepped in. then it fell apart.
(my opinion)

Jive · 01-01-2003, 03:01 PM

(jammyjenkins) your amazing and small minded..
were not amused..
your sick!, this isn't a 'Gay' board.. Momma dropped you on your head for sure.... 'INJECT A LIFE DUDE'

FATPad · 01-01-2003, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fuxu
Or you can keep a list of you subscribers, and their info (unsafe, but profitable in this case), and you can pass em through a script which will automatically make them sign up again, and rebill them - run it every 30 days, BAM REBILLS!

Initial Signup > Record Information and Pay > When rebill comes around, redo the initial signup but dont make it record information, just keep em rebilling until they EMAIL YOU PERSONALLY.

There is a way around everything :-)

And people wonder why VISA will end up cracking down on us in a big way...

01-01-2003, 03:42 AM	#1
Darren Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,994	Its going to happen so what are you doing.. Visa are going to get rid of rebills for adult sites, this is GOING to happen, some people have even suggested it could be April, some of the main guys here probably even know the date. Well what are you doing to prepare? I personally am looking forward to it, more than likely the best quality member section sites will survive, the sites which have caused visa to do this will probably change to better quality. For ALL those that preach that there is nothing wrong in adding extra charges to members cards etc and hiding cancel links etc this is YOUR fault... My plan is to build quality and hopefully this will get me through it, what about other people? Anyone got any ideas? You could charge say 3 month memberships> etc __________________ Penis enlargement / male enhancement pills - earn up to $229.48 per signup ICQ: 46335817

01-01-2003, 03:44 AM	#2
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01-01-2003, 04:01 AM	#5
Darren Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,994	who is looking forward to the change? __________________ Penis enlargement / male enhancement pills - earn up to $229.48 per signup ICQ: 46335817

01-01-2003, 04:01 AM	#6
=^..^= Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ICQ 380-366 Posts: 6,935	This is another of those half right half wrong threads according to ppl who should be in the know - Aus being the home to many big industry players -somehting liek this IS going to hapen however i dont think it will quite that drastic sigh not a day goes by I dont see one of these "chicken little" threads __________________ #RememberYourRoots #AaronMForGFYHOF

01-01-2003, 04:22 AM	#8
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	What do you mean exactly by "no rebills" ? They won't allow a person to charge a subscription to the same site twice ? Or that the processors can't automatically charge again ? How would they know otherwise if it was the member or the processor ? If the processors don't do it, what is to stop the site owners from collecting the information they need and doing it themselves ? If it does happen that drastically, I predict that surfers are going to get fucked like never before when they start finding 100 new ways to charge the card for numerous transactions at once. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

01-01-2003, 03:54 AM	#3
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	it won't happen, happy end of the topic

01-01-2003, 04:25 AM	#9
=^..^= Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ICQ 380-366 Posts: 6,935	..as opposed to the 100 ways they get screwed now? but seriously - Brujah you are right as long as there is a way to get an extra buck out of a wanker - porn peddlars will find it __________________ #RememberYourRoots #AaronMForGFYHOF

01-01-2003, 05:08 AM	#10
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	I really do not see what you're worried about. So you cannot automatically rebill a client, let's imagine for a minute this happens. (1) The guy has logged and paid into a sex site once and is so horrified he was unable to cancel and installed Net Nanny to make sure he did not make the same mistake. So the webmaster can no longer takes his money. (2) The guy liked the site and when he could not log in at the end of the month he rejoins. The god sites retain. (3) The guy likes to jerk off to Internet porn, but logged onto a site that in 3 weeks he has seen all he wants to and moves on to another site. The weaker sites will perish. If we can do this it will only strengthen the Internet. Because the good sites will fall away and the sites left will show the surfer that this is the place to pick up cheap wanks. The adult Internet is now over 10 years old and time to grow up. The days when you could start a site with a few sets are gone. The newbie has to either have a very deep pocket to get him established and through the learning/start up phase or go into the AVS, TGP areas. He will be the only one to suffer, the rest of us will flourish. Because with a stronger, better and mere responsible Adult Internet we will attract more clients. Bringing more $$$ to the party. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

01-01-2003, 05:14 AM	#13
fuxu Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cali! Posts: 282	Or you can keep a list of you subscribers, and their info (unsafe, but profitable in this case), and you can pass em through a script which will automatically make them sign up again, and rebill them - run it every 30 days, BAM REBILLS! Initial Signup > Record Information and Pay > When rebill comes around, redo the initial signup but dont make it record information, just keep em rebilling until they EMAIL YOU PERSONALLY. There is a way around everything :-) __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

01-01-2003, 07:50 AM	#16
jas1552 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Land of the free, home of the brave Posts: 1,462	What makes you so sure it's going to happen?

01-01-2003, 08:01 AM	#17
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Change is good. The guys working smart and hard will always survive. The guys who know how to dance and INNOVATE will make the big money like always. This industry is always changing so this is nothing new. There is always, always a way to get paid when there is a demand for a product or service. And the demand for PORN is INSATIABLE. It will never ever ever ever stop. It is at the core of every human being. Even our holy priests seem to have uncontrollable urges as we've now seen. You guys shouldn't freak webmasters out like its the end of the world. The end of the world will never come in this business, its only going to get better and a cooler sexual experience for the customers as broadband expands and the new technologys keep advancing. There are so many opportunities to make money in this business its unreal. You just have to be clever as a fox to know where the dollars are. 2003 is going to be the best year yet for online porn. All the Neg Folks can GFY! __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

01-01-2003, 08:40 AM	#20
KingK7 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 6,372	Haha, great, another "the sky is falling" thread, and on january 1st, gotta love it. And now every TGP-posting chump is going to throw in his "expert opinion". This should be a long one.

01-01-2003, 08:50 AM	#22
Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	How do you think that's gonna affect sponsor payouts ??? When a sponsor pays a webmaster for a join, they're banking on getting the rebills to make their profits, if they can't get the rebills, what will they do, knock down the payouts or shave like mad, he he he.

01-01-2003, 09:12 AM	#23
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I'm sure AOL is going to have to stop rebilling customers... and AT&T... and my cable company... and my daily newspaper subscription will stop... and Columbia House... oh, and I can't forget my utility bills that are on auto rebill.... It just ain't gonna happen folks. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

01-01-2003, 09:58 AM	#29
nocostporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,228	and nobody "knows" when its going to happen if it does so I don't know what this freak is talking about... I've seen people TRY to act like they're on the inside "oh I heard from a close source at Visa rebill will maybe be ending fall 2003"...hmmmm Yes let's all jump on this maybe train... __________________ CashTheChecks.com -coming soon- "Exclusive sites for Exclusive Webmasters" ICQ-119966868,add me first don't message

01-01-2003, 10:00 AM	#30
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	and you don't think VISA could face a lawsuit from the industry?

01-01-2003, 10:07 AM	#32
nocostporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,228	don't see this happening for a few years,they will add a ton of more rules, regulations and fee's until it seems hopeless then they'll hit us hard.... __________________ CashTheChecks.com -coming soon- "Exclusive sites for Exclusive Webmasters" ICQ-119966868,add me first don't message

01-01-2003, 10:18 AM	#34
REMbraNT Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Hungary Posts: 241	Don't give ideas like this for Visa! All this is just a simple theory until it's officially published! so quit this

01-01-2003, 10:47 AM	#35
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I do think they are gonna slap a whole lot of regulations like "If your chargeback ratio is ##% you will lose your ability to rebill" that's the most effective way to stamp us out. They will never be able to stop rebills across the board though. This is only going to make it so some enterprising mainstream billing companies that process so many mainstream accounts that a porn company won't make a dent in their ratios will pick up IBill and CCBill's big porn accounts. This will include a lot of ramifications that we can talk about for days. The state of the union will change but the business will survive. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

01-01-2003, 02:27 PM	#37
UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	Well, I think the future of rebills will be not be no rebills, but a move to monthly reminders that (something like) "Your subscription to SexGoatDorm.com will be expiring on 01/16/03. May we rebill your card **--**-4567 at that time?" I think the CC companies just want to keep making money without so many chargeback hassles. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

01-01-2003, 02:38 PM	#39
Jive So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Vancouver,Canada Posts: 1,449	UnseenWorld does have the idea sorta? my opinion.. If they decide to drop the trial then that's actually a good thing! then I can and other webmaster's aren't in need of any sponsor's or afilliate programs, you see it would be a pay to enter one shot no rebills and if they bail so what?you still make your $$ in the long run it would be hassle free.. more automated. the sponsor's wouldn't be shaving you! be it rev-share or? they need to stop the greed keep the fingers off the shave buttons like you can do on ccbill,ibill etc.. the best revshare program that was ever introduced online then fucked up was PMB.. but greed stepped in. then it fell apart. (my opinion)

01-01-2003, 03:01 PM	#40
Jive So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Vancouver,Canada Posts: 1,449	(jammyjenkins) your amazing and small minded.. were not amused.. your sick!, this isn't a 'Gay' board.. Momma dropped you on your head for sure.... 'INJECT A LIFE DUDE'