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gideongallery

how by that definition

vcr are illegal too since they haven't found a way to stop you from using them to make bootlegs of movies.

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Serge Litehead

> if the content is not available in a country then no sale is being lost

that content is available in many 2nd and 3rd world countries, cost to subscribtion may not be justifiable to many in those countries and their logic "why would I spend 20 dollars a month for cable when I can get all of it for free on the internet, those 20 bucks will feed me for a week or a month". so once again you prove of twisting things to fit your baseless claims. laws are behind technology, with every passing day, month and year your piritebays will be pushed out off of a face of internets - no question about it, while you can defend your twisted vcr rights to your very last breath.

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gideongallery

that not an example of not available that an example of available at an unreasonable price point.

That would not be covered by the fair use of access shifting.

btw do you want to give a real world example of a country where the cable companies spent the billions in investment necessary to deliver cede content and the standard of living as so low 20 bucks would represent a weeks worth of food.

i think it one of those strawmen arguements you guys keep fabricating to trying and justify your insane technology should be held back until they can perfectly prevent any infringment bullshit.

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V_RocKs

Uh... If you have 1,000,000 users coming to your tube you are making about 2,000 a day... BW, hosting, some licensing later and you are still over 700 to 1000 a day on top... Who cares about BW?

fatfoo

Illegal tube sites - that sucks for the actual content owners. Good luck. Especially the long videos of 30 minutes length high quality content are not good for content owners.

You know, actually, Youtube has been sued for stealing content, too. I use Youtube's embedded music videos in my music fan site, but I like to link back to the original artist's web site, so they get some traffic there, too. I mean users upload interesting content. What about videotaped live concert shows and bootlegs that are not supposed to be there? Maybe the music artists want people to buy tickets, instead of people watching live tapings of music shows on Youtube for free.

The peer-to-peer applications such as Kazaa and Limewire have been the subject of much talks, as well. Torrents, mp3, warez, video files, free games, paysite password uploads and downloads - these are all subjects of much discussion and talks.

You say it's cheaper running a tube site. I think it is cheaper to run any site, actually. More and more hosting sites out there offer "unlmited bandwidth" for a cheaper price (than before).

I don't run a tube site, but I use Youtube's embedded videos. I think it's Youtube's problem if something on Youtube exists that should not be there. Youtube encourages webmasters to place Youtube's embedded videos on their sites. Youtube does not have much porn content. You can get full relatively high quality full music videos and live tapings of concerts on Youtube for free.

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Serge Litehead

I don't know what you mean by this "where the cable companies spent the billions in investment necessary to deliver cede content " - i'm reading it like a fucked up logic, why would anyone spend billions to give up content? deliver - i can understand, cede - you lost me.

there are plenty of countries where people live on $20/weekly for food bills.

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gideongallery

but you said both happened

cable companies investing in the infrastructure to deliver the tv shows for 20/month AND the standard of living so low that $20 would buy you a weeks worth of groceries.

if the standard of living is that low, it not very likely to have fast internet (so they could torrent) and cable infrastructure.

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Serge Litehead

have you been any where else in the world besides living in Canada, do you get out much of your house at all? or you just timeshift shit left and right?

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DamianJ

But the MPAA and RIAA stopped harrassing, sorry, suing, end users in 1998 as it did nothing.

DamianJ

Yes this *is* true. Years ago, everyone stole music and Napster and AudioGalaxy ruled the world. Then along came pesky iTunes SELLING music for 99 cents. And LOOK what happened!

Yes clearly as you can see here, no one is prepared to PAY for something they can GET FOR FREE.



Oh hang on...

It looks like they are?

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Nautilus

Believe it or not, there are still people around who're not "free culture" crowd - they're buying music at itunes, subscribe to our paysites (that's why some remnants of our industry are still alive) etc. They're using digital stores and they're the ones who will be interested in their future development. But they're not in the majority, and their ranks are shrinking with every passing day.

I was referencing to the "free culture" crowd specifically, not to the whole world's population in general. For those ppl what I said about them is true.

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gideongallery

i was born in kenya and my parents are from goa

i have gone back to both places.

when a countries standard of living is so low
you don't have money for niceties like tv or internet.

think about how stupid your statement is

the tv that broadcasts the signal you say is happening at 20/month cost 200 that 10 months of food

how the fuck would they afford the tv in the first place if the choice was between paying for cable and getting to eat.

the fact is you made that arguement up to try and justify using copyright to hold back technological advances.

you made up a condition that will never exist

the funny part is how fucking greed would you have to be to demand that people give up eating so that they can enjoy your content in that third world country (you made up)

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Serge Litehead

average monthly salary in Russia and Ukraine is about $500-600 per person
cheapest cable subscription $10-20/m
decent broadband connection $10-20/m
there are many people there whos weekly food bill is about $20/week
I don't know about cable investments, but they do have infrastructure for communications/broadcast/cable as well sell current DVDs and such
people do manage to survive there, do manage get TVs, furniture, cars, computers, internet, vacation - although it is game of getting by and survival there for most unlike in the west game of comfy living. keep talking ignorance

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gideongallery

and heroes airs on the same day as it airs in the states

even though it airs almost a year later in UK.

if that a case then a sale would be lost so, that would be a copyright infringement and NOT covered by access shifting

access shifting would only cover the abuse of using the copyright monopoly to eliminate competition for a MEDIUM of distribution.

Like the movie theaters do with first run right to a movie.

or tv stations do with regional broadcast restrictions.

oh and btw you should realize how the communist nature of those countries (when the infrastructure as put in) would effect the investment necessary to provide such infrastructure.

look at countries that actually had to get the investment from a captital economy, tv and internet are a community thing, you go to the local rec center to watch tv and to surf the net.

only the very rich have tv and internet in their home.

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VGeorgie

Yes and no.

Yes, I read about the Java bittorrent player, and what does that have to do with Flash? If a bittorrent player or system is seen as largely infringing, at least in the US it will face scrutiny: Napster, Grokster, Limewire.

And no, while RTMFP can use consuming peers as providers, for video it is much more realistic that the provider peers will be stations set up by the network. It's just more efficient for high bandwidth content like full video.

When Adobe talks about reducing bandwidth costs they are referring to build costs associated with scaled networks. It costs much less to build 100 small gateways than one really huge one. The network is still providing the bandwidth, but at much lower cost because the pipes are smaller.

As for Adobe developing a general bittorrent video player, anyone who believes that knows nothing about this company, or understands the RTMFP protocol that Adobe is promoting.

Adobe wants ALL the money. They have zero altruistic sense. Their aim is to own the platform, own the network, own the rights management that content providers use to secure their feeds. Traditional P2P lets money go to too many other people, so there's no point in them creating such a system.

VGeorgie

Wow, that's an interesting concept! You mean movie theaters have strong-armed studios and distributors to force them to show their movies first???

I always thought it was the STUDIOS that required theaters to sign minimum-length engagements and "must show" contracts, often MONTHS before a picture is even completed. And take up to 90% of the box office receipts on the first weeks. And block-book (was illegal at one time; isn't any more) a less profitable picture in order to get the rights to show a more popular one.

With such friendly terms with your studio suppliers, it's a wonder why everyone doesn't want to run a movie theater!

pocketkangaroo

If you spent as much time working as you do running through legal details of this stuff, you could probably afford to buy some of the stuff outright and not go through the hassle.

dozey

Those mechanisms have already been implemented. Most of them have failed dismally.

GonZo

Theres always android . . .

Nautilus

Meanwhile openbittorrent was shut down, isohunt was ordered to block US visitors.

Finally some good news.

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ottopottomouse

I've sat in the sun too much this afternoon so can't provide a decent post on this other than about the Please say Thank You on warez forums.

It hasn't got much to do with actually thanking the uploader. A lot of it is to do with every thankyou gets the thread bumped up to the top again so more views + more downloads + more bumps in a loop.

Monetising the free sharing seems to be paid per 1000 downloads on things like hotfile at the moment although it works out at a very low amount per file. Not sure anybody could live off free sharing as a producer.

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Serge Litehead

it doesn't mean there is no future for them. it takes many tries to get a rocket into space

Gideons approach/suggestion to deal with piracy is to go after leeches with no fair use right. This isn't a bad approach and may work for huge mega corporations

What about little guys? small production shops, who are pushing only 1-2mil in revenues? let say there is a stock photo company, let say they release 10-20 CD/DVDs a year, and have generous 50% gross profit. One day someone decides to utilize redundant backup of modern public torrent trackers to store these DVDs. what happens next? almost instantly their content freely available on all pirate resources with 100 thousands of downloads globally. How this small shop can monitor all such resources and go after all leeches without fair use right? - Gideon suggests for this company to use most of their profits to legally pursue criminal offenders. I say it's impossible. Content should be protected and freely accessible illegitimate downloads should be prevented. There is no point for a small shop invest their resources in product and then they have to spend all their profits to go after leeches. next thing Gideon will say to this small company "fuck you, my vcr rights should allow anybody steal anything they want"

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I agree in part, but I think you might be painting three different audiences with the same brush when you say that. In the simplest form, you have the following:

• Mainstream - Download from DDL search engines / public torrent sites
• Savvy - Download from DDL forums & private torrent sites
• Expert - Download from and contribute to DDL forums / private torrent sites

Note that most of the premium content trickles from the expert audience to mainstream; they are the ones posting site rips and updates. Some (definitely not all) of those updates are then spread to the mainstream.

The distinction is worth while, because the mainstream are inherently more opportunistic, savvy more dedicated yet willing to trade BW + traffic for torrent ratios or money for file hosting subscriptions, then the experts who can justify the effort of obtaining content in the first place. That's an oversimplification, but you can see there are different classes of viewer / downloader, each of which might be convinced or incentivised to pay by different means.

Can't convert them all, but with compromise there's definitely room for work.

dozey

The thing is, all the failed attempts at DRM have left consumers disenchanted to the point where DRM is now full of negative connotations for consumers. See http://www.eff.org/issues/drm etc. The issue has been brought into the spotlight more than once and not many people seem to like it. Consequently retailers are trying to move away from it now, which obviously then renders them preferential among downloaders.

Just one example:

Short afterwards...

The only other thing you might look at is plain old copy protection. Copy protection has been losing the arms race with crackers / hackers / whoever since it's very inception, something that's extremely unlikely to change any time soon.

Nautilus

That's true to some extent, but there are lots of uploaders who're doing it to "share" because they truly believe in this idea - for them "thank you" is very important part of motivation. There are also all shades of grey where uploader are doing it for both reasons, appreciation by others/status within their communities, and to make some buck or maybe free premium rapidshare account etc.

Yes there are many uploaders who're doing it for monetary reasons only, but they have low (if any) status within communities. That is especially true for old and well established forums like pornbb and saff. They call them "cashwhores" and that's about as respectable as being a sigwhore or a contestwhore at GFY and other adult industry boards.

Bitching over the lack of response and not enough "thank you" or ppl not giving "karma" to the uploader is just part of their daily routine - seems funny at first, but then you just get used to it. In general, appreciation of the "hard work" of the uploaders is part of their etiquette, at least in the established communities.

And those "thank you" uploaders are the most dangerous ones - cashwhores usually just post some random stuff and are not focused on your niche/sites/content specifically. Not so with the "thank you" crowd - they know their niches, know where to find passwords and where to download stuff from, they're focused on several sites or even on one site that they believe is cool and they believe their mission is to "share" that cool stuff with the rest of the world. When you kill cashwhore links, he'll just go on posting random stuff and is unlikely to ever post your videos again. But "thank you" poster will not give up that easily - he'll reupload, protect his links with some linksave container etc etc. You need to follow him daily, and kill everything he posts - the moment he feels the pressure is off he'll immediatly repost your entire member area again.

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Serge Litehead

dozey, what I'm suggesting hasn't invented yet although it sounds similar to DRM. I'm all aware of failed DRM attempts.

If Gideon wants to timeshift his favorite TV channels let him go to his cable company and bitch about having all time access for all aired programs that he's subscriber of, ask them do netflix type of online site, ask them implement subscription validated tracker where he and other subscribers can share their recorded shows. Let him demand from Adobe if he uses their products to have license validated tracker where other licensees can redundantly backup their software. He will gladly pay premium for such services.
that will be fair use and valid timeshifting. all content freely available for anyone to download is not fair use it is piracy on global scale.

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Very well said. If it all was about backup/timeshift and whatever other fair use, what you're saying is the way to go. But ya know, it isn't about backup and fair use really

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Serge Litehead

like Gideon says go after leecher without fair use rights,
I can say the same opposite - go after company who gives you content and doesn't provide you fair use and valid timeshifting methods.

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dozey

That's still DRM by definition, albeit a terribly flawed implementation. What stops anyone sharing content from the subscriber network to the outside world? Software? Because that is the same as other failed attempts. It's not impossible, but there are very real technical limitations which are cause for both contempt and limitation in commercial uptake.

Nautilus

They can, but they can no longer use their fair use defence if caught - that's the plan according to gideongallery.

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Serge Litehead

sorry i'm not stuck in failed DRM world. issue SSL certificates for all licences of all type of content, build a fucking tracker validating this certificates on the background through API with content providers and timeshift all you fucking want stuff you PAID for with others who have also PAID for it. - this is a multi-million dollar idea, if you call it DRM I could care less, just don't forget about "thank me" with commission of 10% royalty dividends when you develop and implement it for global redundant backup purposes. then only then you can talk about fair use on the internet.

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Wow, okay. You realize what SSL stands for right? It's for end-to-end encryption i.e., the content is decrypted at either end of the network. That's not even the problem when it comes to preventing sharing.... it's good as pirated once the user has a decrypted copy. Perhaps I'm missing something?

Most schemes deal with that problem by encrypting the content (as opposed to just licensing it) and then providing the viewer with a key to decrypt it (using closed software to avoid the aforementioned piracy). Guess how well those schemes worked out?

Robbie

You are so goddamn stupid.

People living on goddamn welfare have television and internet! You should know, people like you who don't DO anything always seem to be overweight (somehow they never miss a meal) and they ALWAYS have cable tv, internet, cigarettes, and beer.

But they are always begging and stealing.

I remember back in the 1980's touring with my band and we went through Tennessee through a VERY rural area. And it was extremely poor. All these single wide run down trailers. And in the front yard of all these decrepit trailers that almost looked abandoned was a nice car and a big satellite dish! lol

You really do need to get out of your mom's basement and get into the real world. Maybe get a freakin' job and stop stealing everything off the internet.

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Robbie

What gideon"thief"gallery is leaving out on his bullshit "timeshifting" crap are these FACTS:
FACT: He LOVES to talk about a 40 year old ruling on VCRs. Why doesn't he just BUY one and stop using a torrent?

FACT: He could also use a DVR

FACT: The cable company ALREADY has FREE VOD to watch any program that you may have missed. They put it up on the VOD channel 24 hours after it airs and leave it there for a month. ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE to miss your favorite program

FACT: gideongallery needs to get a job.

FACT: The networks have websites now where they stream all their programs for free for you already

FACT: HULU

FACT: gideongallery needs to STOP watching so much television and do something with his life other than steal shit off the internet

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Serge Litehead

It seems you like many others are stuck to already existing concepts and cannot see how more widely they can be adapted. I'm well aware that SSL is a secure encrypted layer. do you know how this layer works in order to provide secure channel? first it must provide 100% safe and secure validation of 2 parties - this mechanism is not limited only for HTTPS use if you start thinking out of box. You can issue SSL cert. licences for content for instance, as a true receipt of purchase; you can then give such cert. license to a person or integrate it inside digital media, trackers can already validate pieces of content by hashes and probably some other new means so providing side can keep hash of provided media content along with SSL cert of purchaser. Further thinking for my concept is more complex. First you need to establish ISO Standard for Licence Validation or Digital Right Management that involves establishing consortium similar to what W3C does which then will promote benefits to adapt License Validation Standard for everything computer/digital media/internet related - so companies can built in to editing and media creation software to encompass these SSL certs into media - this thing to develop right way won't happen within few years like it was expected with DRM - that's why it failed. It will take decades to establish and adopt globally any kind of license validation standard - only then we could get to any type of free global redundant backup services based on proper license validation. The consortium will develop technical aspect of limited content sharing so you can expand fair use right to send for instance favorite mp3 to your buddy of girlfriend but not distribute it to the whole world. point is SSL is perfect secure validation mechanism which can be applied anywhere where you need proper validation of involved parties not only for network communication.
current trackers are not an answer for fair use, they promote piracy. we desperately need digital media license validation mechanism - preferably decentralized. and I realize who ever decides to start developing such standard for digital media will face huge challenges, but technically it is already possible now. this is just a rough idea and not a perfect thought out concept.

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ottopottomouse

My mum still has and uses a VCR

With locking stuff up using what sounds like online verification each time you want to play it what happens with all the portable devices that can play something but not connect to the internet to get permission to play it?

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gideongallery

the grokster case choose to ignore the concept of access shifting because the sharing transaction had 1 infringement even if the downloaders rights were authorized by access shifting.

While that is true for grokster protocol because the sharer gave away a complete working copy of the file (infringing) that is not true for bit torrent where the seeder only gives away non working pieces of the file.

in the case of bit torrent the fair use rights of the leacher should not be ignored

ISOhunt has an appeal based on this arguement because the judge who made the ruling wrongly used the grokster case as a base without address this fundamental difference.

but that the point
if seeding becomes fair use proected (sampling ) because of the piece meal nature then adobe could sell MORE flash servers becuase it would provide equal legal protection for such tube sites.

so either you are a world class moron who thinks the movie theaters are the copyright holders
or your trying to misrepresent what i am saying again

Problem is you are doing a lousy job because you actually document the abuse i am talking about.

here let me show you



RBGY tv are a new form of tv that give truer to life picture quality.
The problem is that it is no where close to what it could be because the source doesn't film in RBGY.

this tv would replace 4096 red beside 4096 green(approximate true 4096 yellow) with two 4096 yellows (true 4096 yellow)
it doesn't recognize the hues created by putting 4096 red beside 4096 yellow because the original content is not filmed in RBGY.

this problem occurs because the technology did not perculate up thru theaters to the tv because the copyright holders are allowed to abuse their copyright monopoly to play favorites of one medium over another.

IF access shifting had been established as a fair use right, and the act of abusively saying we are only going to allow the movie in the theater would allow other business to distribute it on dvd and tv without paying any fees whatsoever (like recording a tv show on a vcr doesn't require paying royalties for the taping) then the only way the copyright holder could protect their dvd and tv royalties would be release them to all mediums at the same time.

under that senerio the theaters would only be able to compete if they adopted technological advancements that made watching it in the theater superior to watching it at home. (like RGBY)

unlike the home viewing market which would have to wait until the price point of the technology dropped that it could afford by a single family, a movie theater making 10k per hour showing movies could afford to make the change at a much higher price point.

the copyright holders would have to either accpet lower liciencing fees or give up the market place.

Given what happened with 3d versions due to the problem of "piracy" it a pretty good bet they would accept the lower fees and allow the investment in new technology.

of course some movie producers would realize that if they shot in RBGY it would be a small 20% improvement but would actually allow 256 x as many colors and obviously it would not be that hard to replace true 256 yellow with a pair 256 red/256 green to down grade it for dvd sales.

Geometrically increasing the value of seeing that movie over all the guys who decided to keep the outdated RGB only camera equipment.

As more content is being shot in RGBY then the demand would increase for the technology quickly dropping the price so that dvd, and tv could broadcast in full RGBY.

which would just repeat the cycle again (8 bit to 12 to 16 bit or adding cyan and magenta).

instead of crappy 3d which requires me to wear glasses to see the effect i would be watching movies with so many shades of color that my eyes would natually precieve them to be in 3d.

that what the abuse has caused the market.

we have crappier technology, inferior version of what we would have had simple because a monopoly held up an inferior quality offering.

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ottopottomouse

Going to the cinema is a lot more about the whole experience of big screen + crowd + night out than just picture quality. Although things like Avatar and Alice in Wonderland were 3d the cinemas here showed both 3d and non-3d screenings and still had plenty of customers for the non-3d versions.

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gideongallery

[that statement proves you don't undertand what fair use is
restricting fair use to only what the copyright holder provides you at the monopoly price he want to charge you be definition destroys fair use

tv stations provided timeshifting before the vecr it was called "re-runs"

the whole point of fair use is to prevent copyright holders monopoly from holding back free speech AND technological advancements.


you mean the companies who could adapt and exploit the technological advancements that would be created by the increased competition

the idiots who kept running porn theaters rather then get into the home viewing market

my own worst enemy got cancelled because not enough people watched it live. i don't say destroy the entire home viewing market , go back to reruns only so mowe wouldn't get cancelled. if a company can't survive under fair market competition, if they need to have monopoly to survive (above the monopoly that protects the revenue from the content sale ONLY) then fuck them they deserve to die.

That how the capitalist system works.


the copyright act doesn't require the copyright holder to PROVIDE fair use right, they must just respect them. that actually a good thing, since technological improvements can come from other sources beyond the copyright holders.

now as i have siad i believe it should be strenghtened a little bit, if you attempt to use copyright to squash a fair use then that act should suffer the same penalty as any other monopoly trying to squash a free market (triple damages or a loss of the monopoly)






your an idiot
if the copyright holder is the only provider of fair use, and they are alloed to charge monopoly prices for that service then by definition that not fair use.

There is no point in having fair use under that circumstance.

you get crappy arguements like this


QUOTE=Robbie;17164772]What gideon"thief"gallery is leaving out on his bullshit "timeshifting" crap are these FACTS:
FACT: He LOVES to talk about a 40 year old ruling on VCRs. Why doesn't he just BUY one and stop using a torrent?

FACT: He could also use a DVR

FACT: The cable company ALREADY has FREE VOD to watch any program that you may have missed. They put it up on the VOD channel 24 hours after it airs and leave it there for a month. ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE to miss your favorite program

FACT: gideongallery needs to get a job.

FACT: The networks have websites now where they stream all their programs for free for you already

FACT: HULU

FACT: gideongallery needs to STOP watching so much television and do something with his life other than steal shit off the internet[/QUOTE]

the swarm provides infinately sized hard drive, that records and saves every single show bought, that allows me take the content and move it to any of my portal viewing devices.

and keeps cached copy so if my internet drops i can still watch that content i have local.

and it does it for free.

want to provide a link to a DVR that has all those features.

hell drop the free condition show me one that cost let then $200.

this is exactly why fair use must stay open competition and out of the control of the copyright holder because they don't give a fuck about problems like this

to them protecting their monopoly is more important that inferior "fair use services"

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gideongallery

if that statement were true you should need to prevent the simultaneous on tv and dvd.

if those other issues were enough to keep theaters competiting then you would need the fair use of access shifting, and the problem of torrent piracy would be solved by the sale of dvd and the comerical interuption version of the tv broadcast.

with torrent of the tv version coveirng the timeshifting rights of the viewers

the fact that you are bitching about piracy means that the statement is bullshit.

the fact is the non 3d sales are because the monopoly of the content has been extended to the medium and the choice of home viewing non 3d is taken off the table.

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Serge Litehead

Gideon, all your "smart" talk and mind misses a point to complete the picture:
if seems you are suggesting allow everyone chance to steal and then go after them. small companies do not have resources to monitor all trackers and pursue globally all leechers with no fair use.

I understand how fair use rights work, i'm not going to comment or argue on your points above because you think internet is your vcr, which is not. you are totally dismissing issue at hand which is freely available content encourages piracy - if you are so protective of your vcr rights at least be so courageous and take a stand against piracy too because it is hurting those who create and provide content for you. you can't 100% advocate fair use through freely available to anyone means and totally dismiss fact that it is going to be stolen just as well. where is the solution? going after leechers without fair use isn't a solution for small guys.

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Zango

That's ok, just another reason to justify stealing all of their software.

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gideongallery

i address the issue i said it quite clearly

btw you may think it harsh but remember the every fair use has brought with it a new income stream

timeshifting brought the entire home viewing market

access shifting will bring real 3d 12 surround sound, movies with smell and ambient changes in enviroment.

that a new money making oppertunitity. If your one of the fucknuts who can't survive under the new marketplace you deserve to die.

just like every tv show that got timeshifted to death.

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gideongallery

btw your never going to make everyone happy

so your left with the lesser of two evils

which is worse, destroy trillions of dollars of technological advancement (real 3d, 12.1 surround sound, synced climate changes while watching) by proping up an inferior offering

or

having a couple clueless copyright holders to stupid to see the money that could be made from the new technology being hindered fall by the wayside due to market competition.

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