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Old 05-12-2010, 01:28 PM   #51
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Actually it works even better if you approach the situation from the positive side of the equation, pointing out which sites are ethical and safe to join rather than trying to police (and give publicity) to all the ones that are not.

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hey, why not hit them with both guns? i also make it a point to praise good sites, and when i target torrents and illegal tubes i dont get specific i just site cases without mentioning site names (as much as possible..heh)

to a certain degree its playing on the fear factor, but it is legitimate and i think surfers should be aware. they should also be quite aware that there are many LEGAL tubes which are fine.

in any case i will contact you, sounds interesting.

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clicked on your site website secure, which is a great idea. i am currently not running any paysites but will keep you in mind for the future.
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Old 05-12-2010, 01:44 PM   #52
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I can get Ironman2 online but they still made $135million last weekend.
because Bill Gates makes billions a year I can steal $1000 from him? That's your logic.
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Old 05-12-2010, 01:52 PM   #53
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Theft of long videos is wrong.

However, Youtube encourages users to embed Youtube videos on their own site.
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Old 05-12-2010, 01:57 PM   #54
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I guess I'm just confused. I keep hearing porn is dead.

Are we all here posting during our lunch break? Are we all filling out applications at Lowe's?
Well said, sir.
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Old 05-12-2010, 01:57 PM   #55
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You don't have to be a Rocket Scientist to know that Tube Sites has in fact hurt the industry. Everyone that knows me asks me how I'm still in Business with all the Free Shit that goes around. I ask people what their favorite Porn sites are and they always give me Free Tube Domains. It's a no brainer. You can get Porn for free and you can find just about anything you want with a little bit of Surfing, and most surfers do just that.

Now, I'm not saying the business has gone away. I've been in this game since 95' I've seen it all. People still buy porn, Our AVS sites still do some decent numbers, we do credit card processing, I see what people pay for, they are definitely paying!!!

This week we are seeing the highest numbers ever for our new Cams Site that's been up and running for about a year now. That tells me something, people are still willing to whip out their credit cards. BUT!!!. It's nothing like it used to be and if anyone is telling you they are making the same amount they used to or more from back in the day, they are lying.

Keep your overhead low, stay in business and when all the Tube sites fade away, you will be at the right place at the right time.

Content theft is straight out Crime, and these tube sites killed our industry with our own content. It's ridicules.

I'm a big believer on keeping your existing members happy. Always update your content area, give them more then what they expect. Spend the same amount time and money on your existing members as you do finding new members.

Stay positive!
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Old 05-12-2010, 01:57 PM   #56
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Wanna back that up shithead

If you were actually in this business you'd know you don't feed the surfers, guess it's pretty obvious which one you are.
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Old 05-12-2010, 01:58 PM   #57
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Old 05-12-2010, 04:31 PM   #58
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I have zero interest seeing Billy Glide fuck lia19.
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Old 05-12-2010, 05:13 PM   #59
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adult is dead.
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Old 05-14-2010, 12:15 AM   #60
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Bang!

You're dead on. Anyone that's been around long enough knows, and can look at themselves as the example, we've all got way more shit to do online these days. 15 years ago, not many of us had anything to do online. Today, we are all so hooked into these fucking machines, there's no way out even if we wanted to get out.

Try backing technology (and the Internet in general) out of your life today and you will be seen as either:
1. a crazy tree-hugging hippie going off to live in the forest
2. Someone trying to disappear from society for dubious reasons
3. an uneducated barbarian that should be mopping bathrooms at the airport

My entire fucking life is locked inside these machines. Everything from, all my photos, taxes, every document I've ever had since birth, business, personal correspondence, addresses, phone numbers,... and that's all before we even get to the Internet!

Banking, investing, entertainment, continuing education, vacation planning, travel arrangements, social interactions.... you fucking name it. And I've never even used Facebook or Twitter or any of that shit. I don't even know what those sites look like. But if my machines were suddenly destroyed in a fire or something, I would be quite crippled... in the real world.

The simple truth is just as you said.... people simply have way more shit goin' on these days online than jerking to porn. I think, the act of "being online" has become very stressful for a lot of people as well because of this. Personally, I don't watch porn. But if I was going to, I would want to be chilled the fuck out when I do, like lounging on the sofa watching it on one of the MANY channels available on tv. Not sitting in a fucking office chair with a monitor in my face.

But that's just me.
That's very true,

As a result, I'd say people also spend way too much of their free time in the virtual world nowadays

Imagine the amount of time a regular person wastes on something as unproductive as for example:

- stalking pics of someone you're too scared to invite out, or watching other people's life instead of living your own
- moronic internet arguments with people you don't even know over totally impotent subjects such as politics
- contributing to or "fighting" the web 2.0. idiocy in general and thus effectively becoming a stellar part of it

As a result you're feeding your brain with web2.0. rubbish, instead of keeping it somehow conscious.

I've caught myself doing all the things above for a while before I realized how totally worthless and idiotic this is.
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:19 AM   #61
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because Bill Gates makes billions a year I can steal $1000 from him? That's your logic.
Sure. Because you better believe if he can squeeze another $ out of you through monopoly control and pricing he will. Without piracy blu-ray DVD's would be $60 right now. Fuck them.
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:32 AM   #62
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time to do it as in music industry, take your babes and lets go to the tour!
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Old 05-14-2010, 03:37 AM   #63
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The global internet has gotten larger... not smaller.

The adult bubble has gotten smaller, because people have more shit to do online than look at porn or buy shit.

That's what has changed.
Kerpow. There is the answer ladies and gentlemen.
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Old 05-14-2010, 03:44 AM   #64
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I have this sneaking suspicion that Lia isn't really 19
is she barely 18 ??
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Old 05-14-2010, 03:47 AM   #65
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apples and oranges. you're talking big screen release box office results from a 200 million dollar blockbuster effects film. here he is talking about an average porn video release.
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One of the best business threads i've seen this past week.
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Old 05-14-2010, 05:21 AM   #67
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This industry will be on the raise again when content can be properly protected.
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Theater release counts for only a part of sales. Not all sales. Movie studios use your same logic in complaining that movie downloads are why Hollywood revenues are down. Ironically, you use Iron Man to counter that very argument. I guess they shouldn't bother releasing Blu Ray and DVD's because they will clearly lose money.

Business is about cost vs revenue. If a video costs $1000.00 to make and generates $10,000 in revenue, then its a winner, regardless of semantics, theories and philosophies.

The fact that Shap isn't complaining should tell people something.
That damn Vexes is a know it all. Youd think he made some money on the web or something....
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Sure. Because you better believe if he can squeeze another $ out of you through monopoly control and pricing he will. Without piracy blu-ray DVD's would be $60 right now. Fuck them.
you're a retard.

Also WTF does blu-ray have to do with Bill Gates moron? Piracy has NOTHING to do with blu-ray pricing coming down. It amazing in you're in "business" and you don't even know the BASIC of business economics.
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