Cheating Sponsors - GoFuckYourself.com

FreeOnes · 12-30-2002, 10:45 AM

Why do so many sponsors don't pay me these days for signups on:

Paypal
Online Check
Eurodebit
Dialer
Pop-up
Pop-under
blocked/none working cookies
returning customers (1day cookies, no $$)
backup processors
Exit
404
and all the fucking other options I forgot.

Fuck I hate them! And I don't speak about the $40 per signup sponsors, but about 50/50 and low payout sponsors.
Damn they should be banned and sent to jail! Don't they call this stealing?????

LUCL0NELY · 12-30-2002, 10:47 AM

yeah, i hate that too. they're stealing acentor2 from us everyday.

figure some ways to fuck them back

SleazyDream · 12-30-2002, 10:48 AM

so start your own program..............

necoeds · 12-30-2002, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeones
Why do so many sponsors don't pay me these days for signups on:

Paypal
Online Check
Eurodebit
Dialer
Pop-up
Pop-under
blocked/none working cookies
returning customers (1day cookies, no $$)
backup processors
Exit
404
and all the fucking other options I forgot.

Fuck I hate them! And I don't speak about the $40 per signup sponsors, but about 50/50 and low payout sponsors.
Damn they should be banned and sent to jail! Don't they call this stealing?????

Yeah..... I'm a good sponsor.... and i take it all into account.....
-Don't take paypal (www.paypalsucks.com)
-Eurodebit (sucks)
-Dialer - (if i get paid by ibill for them, i pay my partners)
-Pop-up (aint got none)
-Popunder (nope)
-blocked/none working cookies (ummm noooo)
-returning customers (3 month cookies)
-Backup processors (don't have one)
-Exit (nope)
-404 (just goes to the main page, like it should)

I don't have a fancy ass website to "recruit" affiliates.... but my shit converts... and retains..... I also offer high percentage.....

If anybody is interested in promoting nebraskacoeds.com

I offer:
-Free domain hosting on my dedicated server at reliablehosting
-Free Prizes (if you promote well)
-Fast email and icq/aim response
-All the free content you want to promote me with

Hit me up on icq or aim:
icq: 174449631
aim: jamesvanderslice

necoeds · 12-30-2002, 10:54 AM

The only thing that i don't pay for is online sales through my online store of vhs tapes..... just because i don't move very much at all.....

But if that's a problem, or if it does start to make some descent money.... then i'll just give away more free stuff and bonuses to my affiliates.....

BTW, my conversion ratio on tgp traffic is 1:180 click-through......

Plus for whatever reason..... A SHIT LOAD of people click on my advertisements!

XXX_Jman · 12-30-2002, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeones
Don't they call this stealing?????

No, it's called a business plan.
Do your homework before you sign up.

Brujah · 12-30-2002, 10:56 AM

How else do you think the payouts can rise to $45 and $50 or more per signup ?

FreeOnes · 12-30-2002, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
How else do you think the payouts can rise to $45 and $50 or more per signup ?

>And I don't speak about the $40 per signup sponsors, but about 50/50 and low payout sponsors.

I read the terms & conditions of all those programs much better than you read this post. Most sponsor programs post a lot of rules of what I'm not allowed to do and if I break those rules my account gets closed and won't get paid. However they rarely post anything about how they track sales, how long cookies keep alive and all the options they don't pay me for. If they don't pay for Paypal singups for example then it should be in their terms. As long as they don't do that then I think it certainly is stealing. I simply have noticed an increase in this kind of cheating.

XXX_Jman · 12-30-2002, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeones
However they rarely post anything about how they track sales, how long cookies keep alive and all the options they don't pay me for. If they don't pay for Paypal singups for example then it should be in their terms. As long as they don't do that then I think it certainly is stealing. I simply have noticed an increase in this kind of cheating.

like I said, do your homework.
before you signup, ask the questions!
- don't just read, 'cos chances are it won't be there.

multisexsite · 12-30-2002, 11:14 AM

They all cheat

PeekHoles · 12-30-2002, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by multisexsite
They all cheat

Not all of us cheat

Unleash_Hell · 12-30-2002, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Forplaz
Not all of us cheat

Yep, right on queue the same programs come out and say we don't cheat etc etc
Next Blumedia....never misses.
If you don't cheat, you shouldn't feel the need to remind us in every single thread?

J.R. · 12-30-2002, 11:35 AM

We pay on Credit Card, Check and Pay Pal joins!

TheDoc · 12-30-2002, 11:38 AM

Most of the larger money programs have both $35-$40 signup as well as recurring programs.

Most pay on paypal. I can understand why people don't always pay on paypal though, ever tried to code the data dumps for paypal?

I think all pay on checks

Not many use Euro debit but the ones that do pay on it.

Dialer .. some do and some dont.

popups most the guys pay on 2nd/3rd exit on flat rates and 1st or all exits on the recurring program.

Nobody is blocking visitors with cookies off or we would miss out of 25% of our traffic. Most money programs only set a cookie incase the member comes back, as well most are 1 month or longer cookies. Even if they have cookies off stand alone programs can still track signups.

I think all pay on at least the 2nd back up processor.

Most sites 404 to the front page or a help page. Why would you be sending to a 404 page?

PeekHoles · 12-30-2002, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unleash_Hell

Yep, right on queue the same programs come out and say we don't cheat etc etc
Next Blumedia....never misses.
If you don't cheat, you shouldn't feel the need to remind us in every single thread?

I can tell you this Unleash_Hell
Were not the same as all sponsors and no we dont cheat, shave or any other bull shit. And you dont see me posting on every single thread saying we dont cheat. Untill you try my program out don't speak.

Webby · 12-30-2002, 11:53 AM

I could give ya a truckload of shaving/theiving sponsors, but only a handlful of straight ones - that may give ya a clue!

Course all sponsors posting at GFY are straight and the thought never crossed their minds

Solution - you don't have to rely on *anyone* for stats and *nobody* needs to hold your money - do all your money getting "in house" and don't even trust a transaction processor - one or more of em are likely to "cease" in 2003.

aleck · 12-30-2002, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
so start your own program..............

indeed!

aleck · 12-30-2002, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by necoeds
The only thing that i don't pay for is online sales through my online store of vhs tapes..... just because i don't move very much at all.....

But if that's a problem, or if it does start to make some descent money.... then i'll just give away more free stuff and bonuses to my affiliates.....

BTW, my conversion ratio on tgp traffic is 1:180 click-through......

Plus for whatever reason..... A SHIT LOAD of people click on my advertisements!

do u have ibill only???

BV · 12-30-2002, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by necoeds
The only thing that i don't pay for is online sales through my online store of vhs tapes..... just because i don't move very much at all.....

But if that's a problem, or if it does start to make some descent money.... then i'll just give away more free stuff and bonuses to my affiliates.....

BTW, my conversion ratio on tgp traffic is 1:180 click-through......

Plus for whatever reason..... A SHIT LOAD of people click on my advertisements!

necoeds,
what is this thread about?
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...threadid=86060
Was it true or false?
curious minds want to know

Unleash_Hell · 12-30-2002, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BV
necoeds, what is this thread about?
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...threadid=86060
Was it true or false?
curious minds want to know

there is always a way to out-pay the next guy
pay less for your content

Rory · 12-30-2002, 12:59 PM

I was surprised when I saw some programs that don't even pay on there backup proccessor. I thought it was kinda a given that if they had a backup proccessor and an affiliate program that an affiliate would be expected to be paid on those backup proccessor sales. I guess its the same reasoning that makes sponsors only count 2nd page hits , seems that most resellers are interested only in that 1:300 number no matter how that number is calculated.

kindafreaky · 12-30-2002, 01:16 PM

People talk about shaving like its children taking sweets from other children, but shaving is FRAUD!

In the USA, would I be correct in thinking FRAUD is a felony? therefore sponsors that commit fraud and are found guilty 3 times in CA could face life in prison?

Headlines: Life for shaving!

p.s. I am

so forget me ........ who?

Webby · 12-30-2002, 02:36 PM

kindafreaky:

*People talk about shaving like its children taking sweets from other children, but shaving is FRAUD! *

I'd love to see a raid and an in depth audit of some sponsors and the "shaving scripts" - gotta be "interesting" reading

Unleash_Hell · 12-30-2002, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Forplaz
I can tell you this Unleash_Hell
Were not the same as all sponsors and no we dont cheat, shave or any other bull shit.

blah fuckin' blah

12-30-2002, 10:45 AM	#1
FreeOnes Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,400	Cheating Sponsors Why do so many sponsors don't pay me these days for signups on: Paypal Online Check Eurodebit Dialer Pop-up Pop-under blocked/none working cookies returning customers (1day cookies, no $$) backup processors Exit 404 and all the fucking other options I forgot. Fuck I hate them! And I don't speak about the $40 per signup sponsors, but about 50/50 and low payout sponsors. Damn they should be banned and sent to jail! Don't they call this stealing????? __________________ The new FreeOnes! - AdultFilmStarContent - BabeGalleries and much more! - 1Strike Movies and much more! All powered by Xpressa

12-30-2002, 10:48 AM	#3
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12-30-2002, 10:54 AM	#5
necoeds Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,453	The only thing that i don't pay for is online sales through my online store of vhs tapes..... just because i don't move very much at all..... But if that's a problem, or if it does start to make some descent money.... then i'll just give away more free stuff and bonuses to my affiliates..... BTW, my conversion ratio on tgp traffic is 1:180 click-through...... Plus for whatever reason..... A SHIT LOAD of people click on my advertisements! __________________ Message me to promote nebraskacoeds + network sites...

12-30-2002, 10:56 AM	#7
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	How else do you think the payouts can rise to $45 and $50 or more per signup ? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

12-30-2002, 11:38 AM	#14
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Most of the larger money programs have both $35-$40 signup as well as recurring programs. Most pay on paypal. I can understand why people don't always pay on paypal though, ever tried to code the data dumps for paypal? I think all pay on checks Not many use Euro debit but the ones that do pay on it. Dialer .. some do and some dont. popups most the guys pay on 2nd/3rd exit on flat rates and 1st or all exits on the recurring program. Nobody is blocking visitors with cookies off or we would miss out of 25% of our traffic. Most money programs only set a cookie incase the member comes back, as well most are 1 month or longer cookies. Even if they have cookies off stand alone programs can still track signups. I think all pay on at least the 2nd back up processor. Most sites 404 to the front page or a help page. Why would you be sending to a 404 page? __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

12-30-2002, 10:47 AM	#2
LUCL0NELY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: AZN KLAN'S MAIN LAND Posts: 1,527	yeah, i hate that too. they're stealing acentor2 from us everyday. figure some ways to fuck them back

12-30-2002, 11:14 AM	#10
multisexsite Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 929	They all cheat

12-30-2002, 11:35 AM	#13
J.R. WantBoobs.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Calif & Washington Posts: 3,472	We pay on Credit Card, Check and Pay Pal joins!

12-30-2002, 11:53 AM	#16
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	I could give ya a truckload of shaving/theiving sponsors, but only a handlful of straight ones - that may give ya a clue! Course all sponsors posting at GFY are straight and the thought never crossed their minds Solution - you don't have to rely on anyone for stats and nobody needs to hold your money - do all your money getting "in house" and don't even trust a transaction processor - one or more of em are likely to "cease" in 2003.

12-30-2002, 12:59 PM	#21
Rory Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: I Love Ixtapa, Mexico ö Posts: 616	I was surprised when I saw some programs that don't even pay on there backup proccessor. I thought it was kinda a given that if they had a backup proccessor and an affiliate program that an affiliate would be expected to be paid on those backup proccessor sales. I guess its the same reasoning that makes sponsors only count 2nd page hits , seems that most resellers are interested only in that 1:300 number no matter how that number is calculated. __________________ Promote a site that actually retains members!

12-30-2002, 01:16 PM	#22
kindafreaky Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: in a box Posts: 86	People talk about shaving like its children taking sweets from other children, but shaving is FRAUD! In the USA, would I be correct in thinking FRAUD is a felony? therefore sponsors that commit fraud and are found guilty 3 times in CA could face life in prison? Headlines: Life for shaving! p.s. I am so forget me ........ who? __________________ I love my T1/100mbs

12-30-2002, 02:36 PM	#23
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	kindafreaky: People talk about shaving like its children taking sweets from other children, but shaving is FRAUD! I'd love to see a raid and an in depth audit of some sponsors and the "shaving scripts" - gotta be "interesting" reading