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FreeOnes 12-30-2002 10:45 AM

Cheating Sponsors
 
Why do so many sponsors don't pay me these days for signups on:

Paypal
Online Check
Eurodebit
Dialer
Pop-up
Pop-under
blocked/none working cookies
returning customers (1day cookies, no $$)
backup processors
Exit
404
and all the fucking other options I forgot.

Fuck I hate them! And I don't speak about the $40 per signup sponsors, but about 50/50 and low payout sponsors.
Damn they should be banned and sent to jail! Don't they call this stealing?????

LUCL0NELY 12-30-2002 10:47 AM

yeah, i hate that too. they're stealing acentor2 from us everyday.

figure some ways to fuck them back

SleazyDream 12-30-2002 10:48 AM

so start your own program..............

necoeds 12-30-2002 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeones
Why do so many sponsors don't pay me these days for signups on:

Paypal
Online Check
Eurodebit
Dialer
Pop-up
Pop-under
blocked/none working cookies
returning customers (1day cookies, no $$)
backup processors
Exit
404
and all the fucking other options I forgot.

Fuck I hate them! And I don't speak about the $40 per signup sponsors, but about 50/50 and low payout sponsors.
Damn they should be banned and sent to jail! Don't they call this stealing?????

Yeah..... I'm a good sponsor.... and i take it all into account.....
-Don't take paypal (www.paypalsucks.com)
-Eurodebit (sucks)
-Dialer - (if i get paid by ibill for them, i pay my partners)
-Pop-up (aint got none)
-Popunder (nope)
-blocked/none working cookies (ummm noooo)
-returning customers (3 month cookies)
-Backup processors (don't have one)
-Exit (nope)
-404 (just goes to the main page, like it should)


I don't have a fancy ass website to "recruit" affiliates.... but my shit converts... and retains..... I also offer high percentage.....


If anybody is interested in promoting nebraskacoeds.com

I offer:
-Free domain hosting on my dedicated server at reliablehosting
-Free Prizes (if you promote well)
-Fast email and icq/aim response
-All the free content you want to promote me with


Hit me up on icq or aim:
icq: 174449631
aim: jamesvanderslice

necoeds 12-30-2002 10:54 AM

The only thing that i don't pay for is online sales through my online store of vhs tapes..... just because i don't move very much at all.....

But if that's a problem, or if it does start to make some descent money.... then i'll just give away more free stuff and bonuses to my affiliates.....


BTW, my conversion ratio on tgp traffic is 1:180 click-through......

Plus for whatever reason..... A SHIT LOAD of people click on my advertisements!

XXX_Jman 12-30-2002 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeones
Don't they call this stealing?????
No, it's called a business plan.
Do your homework before you sign up.

Brujah 12-30-2002 10:56 AM

How else do you think the payouts can rise to $45 and $50 or more per signup ?

FreeOnes 12-30-2002 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
How else do you think the payouts can rise to $45 and $50 or more per signup ?
>And I don't speak about the $40 per signup sponsors, but about 50/50 and low payout sponsors.

I read the terms & conditions of all those programs much better than you read this post. Most sponsor programs post a lot of rules of what I'm not allowed to do and if I break those rules my account gets closed and won't get paid. However they rarely post anything about how they track sales, how long cookies keep alive and all the options they don't pay me for. If they don't pay for Paypal singups for example then it should be in their terms. As long as they don't do that then I think it certainly is stealing. I simply have noticed an increase in this kind of cheating.

XXX_Jman 12-30-2002 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeones
However they rarely post anything about how they track sales, how long cookies keep alive and all the options they don't pay me for. If they don't pay for Paypal singups for example then it should be in their terms. As long as they don't do that then I think it certainly is stealing. I simply have noticed an increase in this kind of cheating.
like I said, do your homework.
before you signup, ask the questions!
- don't just read, 'cos chances are it won't be there.

multisexsite 12-30-2002 11:14 AM

They all cheat

PeekHoles 12-30-2002 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by multisexsite
They all cheat
Not all of us cheat

Unleash_Hell 12-30-2002 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Forplaz
Not all of us cheat
Yep, right on queue the same programs come out and say we don't cheat etc etc
Next Blumedia....never misses.
If you don't cheat, you shouldn't feel the need to remind us in every single thread?

J.R. 12-30-2002 11:35 AM

We pay on Credit Card, Check and Pay Pal joins!

TheDoc 12-30-2002 11:38 AM

Most of the larger money programs have both $35-$40 signup as well as recurring programs.

Most pay on paypal. I can understand why people don't always pay on paypal though, ever tried to code the data dumps for paypal?

I think all pay on checks

Not many use Euro debit but the ones that do pay on it.

Dialer .. some do and some dont.

popups most the guys pay on 2nd/3rd exit on flat rates and 1st or all exits on the recurring program.

Nobody is blocking visitors with cookies off or we would miss out of 25% of our traffic. Most money programs only set a cookie incase the member comes back, as well most are 1 month or longer cookies. Even if they have cookies off stand alone programs can still track signups.

I think all pay on at least the 2nd back up processor.

Most sites 404 to the front page or a help page. Why would you be sending to a 404 page?

PeekHoles 12-30-2002 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unleash_Hell

Yep, right on queue the same programs come out and say we don't cheat etc etc
Next Blumedia....never misses.
If you don't cheat, you shouldn't feel the need to remind us in every single thread?

I can tell you this Unleash_Hell
Were not the same as all sponsors and no we dont cheat, shave or any other bull shit. And you dont see me posting on every single thread saying we dont cheat. Untill you try my program out don't speak.:321GFY

Webby 12-30-2002 11:53 AM

:Graucho I could give ya a truckload of shaving/theiving sponsors, but only a handlful of straight ones - that may give ya a clue!

Course all sponsors posting at GFY are straight and the thought never crossed their minds :Graucho

Solution - you don't have to rely on *anyone* for stats and *nobody* needs to hold your money - do all your money getting "in house" and don't even trust a transaction processor - one or more of em are likely to "cease" in 2003.

aleck 12-30-2002 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
so start your own program..............
indeed!

aleck 12-30-2002 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by necoeds
The only thing that i don't pay for is online sales through my online store of vhs tapes..... just because i don't move very much at all.....

But if that's a problem, or if it does start to make some descent money.... then i'll just give away more free stuff and bonuses to my affiliates.....


BTW, my conversion ratio on tgp traffic is 1:180 click-through......

Plus for whatever reason..... A SHIT LOAD of people click on my advertisements!

do u have ibill only???

BV 12-30-2002 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by necoeds
The only thing that i don't pay for is online sales through my online store of vhs tapes..... just because i don't move very much at all.....

But if that's a problem, or if it does start to make some descent money.... then i'll just give away more free stuff and bonuses to my affiliates.....


BTW, my conversion ratio on tgp traffic is 1:180 click-through......

Plus for whatever reason..... A SHIT LOAD of people click on my advertisements!

necoeds,
what is this thread about?
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...threadid=86060
Was it true or false?
curious minds want to know

Unleash_Hell 12-30-2002 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BV
necoeds, what is this thread about?
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...threadid=86060
Was it true or false?
curious minds want to know

there is always a way to out-pay the next guy
pay less for your content:1orglaugh

Rory 12-30-2002 12:59 PM

I was surprised when I saw some programs that don't even pay on there backup proccessor. I thought it was kinda a given that if they had a backup proccessor and an affiliate program that an affiliate would be expected to be paid on those backup proccessor sales. I guess its the same reasoning that makes sponsors only count 2nd page hits , seems that most resellers are interested only in that 1:300 number no matter how that number is calculated.

kindafreaky 12-30-2002 01:16 PM

People talk about shaving like its children taking sweets from other children, but shaving is FRAUD!

In the USA, would I be correct in thinking FRAUD is a felony? therefore sponsors that commit fraud and are found guilty 3 times in CA could face life in prison?

Headlines: Life for shaving!

p.s. I am :glugglug so forget me ........ who?

Webby 12-30-2002 02:36 PM

kindafreaky:

*People talk about shaving like its children taking sweets from other children, but shaving is FRAUD! *

I'd love to see a raid and an in depth audit of some sponsors and the "shaving scripts" - gotta be "interesting" reading :winkwink:

Unleash_Hell 12-30-2002 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Forplaz
I can tell you this Unleash_Hell
Were not the same as all sponsors and no we dont cheat, shave or any other bull shit.

blah fuckin' blah


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