Nikki_Licks

Heard this morning on the news that people who have season tickets and regular attending supporters of the phoenix suns are not going to be attending any further games or activities put on by the suns.
It seems the team has decided to bring politics to the arena by wearing new ?Los Suns t-shirts? in protest of the new immigration law.

I hope fans take a stand against the suns and boycott their games. Beings I am not a supporter of the suns, I am going to happily put a real estate size sign in my front yard that reads piss on Robert Sarver (owner of the suns) and the phoenix suns.

One of the protestors is Nash, he is from Canada and a guest in this country..... Maybe he should be sent packing...fucker

Here is a link to one story.
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/05/04/s...onas-immigrat/

Good to see the asshole los suns lost the game last night and I hope this losing streak continues. Maybe Mexico could use a basketball team because I have a feeling they are going to be boycotted for quite a while...fuckers

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Nikki_Licks

Hopefully people will have the balls and not attend. This would be a great lesson for these losers and I would love nothing better than to see the suns lose thousands of dollars for being total assholes.

Time for us Americans to start boycotting

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They lost?

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I like how people don't ever want to get to the root of the problem (company's influencing and advertising in bordering Mexican cities for jobs in America for illegals) and rather just put the blame on the people themselves then the corporations causing it all. Hey Nikki, how about boycotting McDonalds or the other corps using illegals? How about not hiring that guy to cut your lawn because he's cheaper than everyone else. You want the benefits without the problems.

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Post a photo of your sign for us


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Nikki_Licks

I will.....going to be cutting the vinyl copy for the blank sign first thing in the morning ;)

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Jerry's Intensity

1. The Suns Won the game.

2. Please take a photo of the sign in your yard.

3. Do you know how I can contact any of the fans protesting, I want tickets.

Nikki_Licks

Yea, I stand corrected, I thought I read they had lost. Thanks for correcting that.

On another note, I hope they go on a very long losing streak....through next year ;)

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Interesting fact: basketball sport was invented by a Canadian in 1891.

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mixing politics with sports has always been a no-no, they are stupid to do it.

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Nikki_Licks

1. I know, was just corrected.
2. I will
3. nope, I am not a suns fan

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alexchechs

They Won (check the paper's sports section) and I dont think fans will be boycotting them when they are in the conference finals... This country was founded on immigrants, my parents were immigrants from Easter Europe and they worked really hard to get where they are and putting me through school. I think the issue is more about what Ricky said.

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Bman

LOL...Should go tell the Native Indians I am sure they are gonna agree with you.

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Nikki_Licks

I love how people run off at the mouth assuming they know "the person" or what they are even talking about.
First of all, you don't know fuck about me and you;re talking out your ass.

I do not eat fast food....at any place.
I mow my own lawn, pull my owns weeds, haul my own rock and do the shit myself. I have always done this and it isn't going to change. There are plenty of people on this board that have visited my home and know I do all my own work...
Besides or adult biz, we run a mainstream graphics company and we do not hire illegal immigrants.

I don't want any benefits from illegal immigrants, but it sure sounds like this is right up your alley.

Now what sherlock?

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Nikki_Licks

Read above post.

One can only hope.

I am talking about people here that are illegal immigrants, not legal immigrants. My family came here as immigrants, but they did it the right way...pretty simple;)

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Vendzilla

I won't hire anyone but local kids to cut my lawn, except I love to run the mower
I remember when kids ran McDonalds , I worked at a taco bell

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Nikki_Licks

I guess I should, my grandmother is part Choctaw

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Nikki_Licks

My first job was Taco Bell ...too funny

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lazycash

This was my exact thoughts when I read your original post Nikki. Only a couple dozen season tickets holders have come out against the Suns taking a stance. This is not the first time the Suns have worn their "Los Suns" jerseys, they did so many times earlier this year to support their latino fan base and did so last night not only in protest of the new immigration law, but for cinco de mayo. Nash, Sarver and the Suns organization have come forward not in total opposition of the new law, but more against some of the verbage in the law that they feel needs to be changed. As Kerr says in the article, "And we're not trying to make a huge stand on one side, we're just saying the law the way it's written we don't really agree with". Take a couple hours Nikki and actually read the entire law, not what you extrapolate from certain media.

The Suns are in the playoffs and won last night and I can guarantee you that for the rest of the playoffs all the games will be sold out. I'm a long time season ticket holder and have worked closely with the Suns organization at varies times over the years with their scouting dept. Also, even though Nash was raised in Canada, he has lived in the US the last 20 years and has been outspoken on many different political topics.

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Nikki_Licks

Only a couple of dozen ticket holders so far and that is better than none,but I am sure there will be more. In all probability they will be sold out and that's fine. I am giving Kudos to the people that are standing up. I think what the suns did was offensive to me and looks like they got the attention of others as well.

If you are happy working with the suns activities, more power to you. I am not a supporter ;)

On another note And I have read the new law.....

And Politics/Sports should not be in the same arena...

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lazycash

How is what they did offensive to you when you admit you aren't even a supporter? Have you read the entire law? If anything the Suns are gaining support as they are hotter than ever and have a huge growing fan base and a chance to make it to the conference finals to play the Lakers.

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kristin

The fact that it was "Los Suns" bothered me... they could have made it all Spanish.

Made them look retarded for not even being grammatically correct.

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TheDoc

Here in AZ we can't hire them... MD doesn't hire illegals or the owner of the franchise will lose his franchise rights.

It's not about illegals coming in and taking some american jobs - The issue is to do that they have to steal an Americans SSN and ID... The employment issue is companies ONLY hire illegals, and not a single american.

I have been all along the border on both sides and have never seen advertising looking for illegals.

The root of the problem is illegals keep coming into the Country.

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crowkid

You're racist...


see? argument gets shut down immediately...Liberalism is so awesome isn't it!?

Nikki_Licks

I don't have to be a fan to be offended and I have never been a fan nor will I ever be a fan ;)

During this heated/sensitve time in Phoenix, the suns decide to pull out these shirts and wear them at last nights game which as you mentioned was in celebration of cinco de mayo, support for their latino fan base and in opposition of the new law....I have a feeling that there is more underlying to this than is on the surface.
I think they knew what type of controversy this may cause during this time, which I feel was in poor judgement, but they still moved forward with this stupid idea. I took it as a show of support against the new law and support for the very people (some of them) that have no regard to the laws of this Country or State.

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smax

I wonder why people keep trying to blur the line between immigrant and illegal immigrant .....

lazycash

I'm beating my head against the wall, read the entire law and then please come back and form an opinion on it, its not as black and white as you are making it out to be. The Suns are not against immigration reform and at no time have said they are ok with immigrants entering illegally. There is nothing more underlying here, there have been hundreds of examples of sports as well as private companies coming forward and taking a stance on certain legislation in the past. How can the Suns cause anymore controversy, the law itself had already formed a ground swell of controversy well before the latest Suns game.

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cwd

Might want to boycot the Spurs too...and for that matter, all of the NBA...


Spurs coach Gregg Popovich is on board, and the team even tried to get their "Los Spurs" jerseys, though it was too late to do so. When asked for approval to wear the jerseys, the NBA "was all for it," said Suns general manager Steve Kerr.

Furthermore, NBA Players Association executive director Billy Hunter issued a press release, denouncing the law. "The recent passage of the new immigration law in Arizona is disappointing and disturbing. The National Basketball Players Association strongly supports the repeal or immediate modification of this legislation. Any attempt to encourage, tolerate or legalize racial profiling is offensive and incompatible with basic notions of fairness and equal protection."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/bal...urn=nba,238682

brassmonkey

the owner was busted the local mc donalds owner he had instructions for the illegals if i.c.e. showed up i hope he does some time and the suns i wont be watching

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Nikki_Licks

No need in banging your head against a wall ;)

Please elaborate....what do you find wrong / offensive with the law?

The fact the suns jumped on board and the way they displayed it last night caused controversy. People are not happy with their decision.

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cwd

"Suns fans wore ?Los Suns? jerseys and T-shirts and a group of four even entered the arena with sombreros for their team?s playoff game against the San Antonio Spurs.

There was a lone protester holding up a homemade sign outside the arena who was against the idea of the ?Los Suns? jerseys Phoenix wore Wednesday night for Game 2 of its second-round series.

Otherwise, it was a typical game night around US Airways Center."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...ns-immigration

dyna mo

there are many mexicans in phx and they love their b-ball. los suns are more concerned about them than someone who is not a los suns fan.

GatorB

boycotting the cops acting like Nazis? Are you American or German?

hey moron 30% of the population of Arizona is hispanic 30% in 20 years it will be 50%. So please keep talking retardation. Yes the Suns are dumb for supporting a portion of the fanbase which will be the MAJORITY before too long?

lazycash

For the most part I'm in support of the law and its intention and I want it to stay, just think it needs to be tweeked a bit. We can discuss it in detail after you've actually read it and its entirety. I'm banging my head because you express yourself in sweeping generalizations that simply are not true, including your thread title and this sentence, "Heard this morning on the news that people who have season tickets and regular attending supporters of the phoenix suns are not going to be attending any further games or activities put on by the suns."

The Suns are actually gaining far more support, not losing it by taking a stance. You seem to have a hard on against the Suns for taking a stance, yet what about the dozens of other private companies who have come forward against the law also. If an organization/company comes forward and takes a stance on a particular issue then according to you they are guilty of causing controversy.

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I hope they loose after this shirt swap crap!

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TheDoc

Is a Ginger a race?

I know an Illegal isn't a race, but I am a bit prejudice towards Gingers and they scare me. I will often cut to the other side of the street to avoid a Ginger, never know when one will get ya.



I agree, Liberalism is great.

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Nikki_Licks

Who said anything about boycotting the cops? Yep, I am American, how about you?

I have lived here my entire life and I am aware of the Hispanic population......and out of the 30% you mention, how many do you think are illegal immigrants?

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Nikki_Licks

I was simple mentioning what I hard on the morning news as I mentioned and it did not surprise me after the stunt they pulled.

I do not feel any company is guilty of voicing their opinion. It was the suns and the way they did it that that got under my skin.

Like I said before, I see nothing wrong with the new law, you obviously have another opinion and that's OK. If you would like to point out what you see so bad about this law, please feel free to express yourself.

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Cory W

Nash may well be a guest of this country, however, its safe to assume that his impact on the city of Phoenix, the money he spends as well as the philanthropic services rendered throughout, trumps most Phoenix citizens.

Sports teams shouldn't get involved in politics, as at the end of the day, its entertaiment. I wholly agree. However, to disfranchise fan or community support over it, you really partake in the same act. Would this be all better if they were pro the law?

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Cory W

Calling them retarded over the name is better grammar? : )

What is the issue here? Isn't los the plural? Or maybe I am wrong? Or are you talking the team name? If you are, I can't see why they'd change that. That's the name.

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Nikki_Licks

I agree about the politics.
It really doesn't matter if you are pro law or against the law, it was the way it was presented and the fact that is was known they did it in support of the fan base, opposition against the law and for cinco de mayo....all during this heated time in AZ.
My beef was the insensitive way they just went about making their statement, that's all...

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cykoe6

I cannot imagine what the Suns and the NBA are thinking when they do something to alienate at least 60-70% of their fan base. A really weird move in my opinion.

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TheDoc

Naaa.. The 60+ age population that votes Conservative, is the majority here and will always be. If you build the population out that much more, you put water in new sources, which will attract cheap housing and more old people.

The ratio of old people to everyone else, is about equal. Some areas it's like 99% 60+, entire cities that are 55+ age housing.

Most people here like the law and want it enforced, of every race. They just aren't taking to the streets... If they had a vote on it, it would have passed with flying colors.

Here is how it's going to go down... if the law is blocked/removed, they will put it on the ballot and we will vote it back in and then all the moaners can piss off until the next round.

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lazycash

Don't you find it somewhat ignorant that you've already come out in support of the law and you admittedly haven't even read it? I'd point out some of the details I think they need to amend, but I'm trying to encourage you to actually take the time and become familiar with something you've already aligned yourself with.

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Nikki_Licks

Maybe you should read back to some of my post where I answered you. I said yes, I have read it and I have no problem with the new law.
But you on the other hand call me ignorant because I am not taking some side you are on or see things the way you do.....I have no idea.....

I said I have no problem with the law, you obviously do, but you fail to mention what you dislike so much about it. It's pretty difficult to disagree with you when I don't know where you stand.
So, care to elaborate?

I guess maybe I am missing something....sigh

Here is where I read the law. http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf

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SBJ

haha ya some people will never take the time to educate themselves on the actual facts. The owner nor Nash never said they were against the law but were against the law in it's current form.

I've been a long time Suns fan and will continue to be for many years and don't see too many real fans walking away from the suns over this unless they are just plain racist or not true fans before anyways.. The suns didn't make this out as a big deal hyping it up for a longtime or making announcements at the game. Anyone that knows Nash knows that he has some real big causes that he supports day in and day out as does many other players on many other teams. The los suns jerseys were not just made up for this but were used earlier this year in the "NBA's Noche Latina program" where all teams had jerseys with "Los" added to their jerseys for games.

I'm all for this law and think it could really help a very troubled state of Arizona but not in the current form cause it does more harm than good. I hope that in coming mos they will work to fix the new law so that is not so wrong. I love that this law gives rights to the police to send illegal immigrants back to where they came from but it also takes away rights of legal immigrants and is racist in it's current form.

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TheDoc

The AZ law is a mirror of our federal law other than it hands the power down to the local and adds penalties towards abuse and it asks for funding to pay for more troops. That same power has been given to local enforcement along the border before.

I highly doubt the suns owner read the law... I haven't heard anyone be against the law after they actually read it.

You may want reform or a few points of the law might not be perfect - but overall it's what is enforced every day in our Country already.


Speaking against it, truly makes people look rather uneducated. If you want to focus on a few points, that's understandable.

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