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Original Content sites that do not use endless pop-ups are cool! Soon surfers will demand these type of sites because of the all in one rip off sites that promise everything. Quality over Quanity!:321GFY
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It sure is nice to see honest and
sincere business people like jennycards and the few others that have jumped in to help out. Aways keep these things in mind .... 1. If you think for second that it's a smart business decision to send your traffic to the highest bidder, you are so wrong. Do some homework alot these guys have public records on the net like at the FTC for example. 2. I'd be asking myself how they managed to cough up milions and millions of dollars in fines for being dishonest. It would also brother me that the millions they paid didn't appear to hurt them any and it's back to biz with the same scam just refined. 3. We live in a world where the best offer more time's than not carries the highest risk of us getting fucked. "If it's too good to be true, it's not". I doubt anything I've said is anything you didn't already know. I've been watching this massive shell game go on for over a year. The traffic senders don't have a lot of options. Even I can't tell you whose a thief and whose not. If I was a traffic sender though I would look at this way. If a lot of companies are offering 1-3 times as much as what the initial sale puts in their pocket then a red flag would go up. Because it looks like their competing for losses which doesn't make sense. And I don't buy this upsell bullshit excuse. I would probally take some of my traffic and send it to the programs that offer a lot less. To me it means they have less of a need to fuck you. But that's just me... The only sure way to overcome what's going on is to be the receiver of your own traffic, have your own sites. A lot of you guys seem to be friends it sure would be a lot more profitable. Anyway Happy New Year to All!:moon |
I saw the Lightspeed banner above
my last message so I went to check them out. 60% of the sale and 60% of any sales of that member forever. I really shouldn't to have to spell it out to you but I will.... a 60/40 deal is an optimal and fair partnership. They have a lot less sites, which means that they have targeted the surfer for the best case scenerio. And best of all they aren't as likely to have a steep overhead to deal with so the likely hood of you getting fucked by these guys is nearer to the zero 0 mark than the 200% one. Just my opinion , this has been an unpaid and unsolicted advertisment. for Lightspeed Cash. :thumbsup |
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your giving someone respect for making false accusations about our members section and how we conduct business. Infact I feel we deserve an apology Like I said if someone thinks they have a better members section than us other than FM:winkwink: lets compare I've seen just about everyone's out there. we analize everything out there and then we try to make it better. If you think exclusive content matters your wrong. good content I can understand that matters. you think surfers know if you have exclusive content soon the reality sites will become cookie cutters if they already havn't. like I've said before we have done it all there is nothing new here that you have brought up and there is a reason why the big sponsors have cookie cutter sites as you call them. show me a site that converts and retains better with exclusive content and I'll prove you wrong. And show you a cookie cutter site that does better. people jumping on the band wagon bashing sponsors need to show numbers if you havn't tried us out. you have no room to talk. we have done the voyour houses which was a reality site and it was live not just a video that got alot of press back in the day when things were new, we have done the amateur sites with live cam girls and exclusive content, the mega site the niche sites...ETC. now we are launching new niche programs like sunny leone and brittany andrews which will be exclusive content. will it change the numbers? let me answer that for you NO. but it will have an apeal that surfers will like and they will join because of the $1 trial for a month. And if they are satisfied they won't cancel. I can still say we convert the best thru 3rd party tracking and I bet we retain better than most. go figure http://www.thestatistician.com/03.html We work hard to give the webmasters the most out of there traffic and we work just as hard to give surfers there money's worth. I personally think its wrong to charge for a membership upfront or a high $ trial. thats why we give them a month. ok Fire away |
So tell us there sinfulone, who are these mysterious programs you allude to having paid millions in FINES to the ftc?
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let me come over and rub vics all over your chest. Sometime I feel its pointless to try to educate some people like today.. I just don't get it. I wish i had sponsors back in the day tell me how it is. so we wouldn't have to go thru all the trial and errors. Back when we had to learn it all on our own. you have worked for a processor so you know what the real deal is. Its funny how some webmasters think they understand the business without running a company from A-Z. |
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If you saw our members section you would have never gotten xxxpix like you posted. you got our fake or 404 members section for some reason. did you see a girl holding up a note welcoming you with your username? Check us out again or try us out I'm sure you will be happy with the results And for all of you who understand and had my back:thumbsup |
To: Kimmykim
There's alot more than this when you start searching the names of people. I think you'll find at least two out the 40 here. But Hey what do I know, I'm just a newbie! Go ahead and take your pick --- 1: FTC v.XPICS Publishing, Inc., et al. - Complaint xpicscmp.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 25K, Create Date: Jul-24-00 01:01 http://www.ftc.gov/os/2000/07/xpicscmp.htm 2: Communication Concepts Investment, Inc. - CMP complt.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 22K, Create Date: Dec-23-98 16:31 http://www.ftc.gov/os/1998/9812/complt.htm 3: Crescent Publishing Group, Inc. crescentstlmt.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 13K, Create Date: Nov-06-01 10:27 http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/11/crescentstlmt.htm 4: Cramming: Mystery Phone Charges cramming.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 13K, Create Date: May-22-02 16:32 http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/...s/cramming.htm 5: Voice Media Incorporated - CMP voicemediacmp.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 8K, Create Date: Apr-17-01 13:53 http://www.ftc.gov/os/2001/04/voicemediacmp.htm 6: Voice Media Incorporated - Complaint voicemediacmp.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 9K, Create Date: May-25-01 10:24 http://www.ftc.gov/os/2001/05/voicemediacmp.htm 7: Charlo Barbosa, B.C. Ltd. pornpics.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 9K, Create Date: Sep-03-01 02:23 http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/08/pornpics.htm 8: Playgirl Web Site Faces FTC Charges - 8/23/00 crescent.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 7K, Create Date: May-20-02 11:24 http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2000/08/crescent.htm 9: FTC v. Unknown Parties 7674451775.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 13K, Create Date: May-19-99 05:32 http://www.ftc.gov/os/1999/9905/7674451775.htm 10: You´ve Got Spam: How to Can Unwanted Email inbox.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 19K, Create Date: Dec-12-02 11:57 http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/online/inbox.htm 11: Announced Actions for March 6, 2001 fyi0112.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 6K, Create Date: Aug-27-02 14:29 http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/03/fyi0112.htm 12: News Releases: August 2001 index.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 9K, Create Date: Nov-26-01 15:57 http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/08/index.htm 13: Crown Communication Concepts and Investments, Inc.. et al. crowncom2.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 7K, Create Date: May-20-02 11:51 http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2000/03/crowncom2.htm 14: Xpics Publishing, Inc. - 7/24/00 xpicspublishing.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 11K, Create Date: May-20-02 11:47 http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2000/07/xpicspublishing.htm 15: Verity International, Ltd. (Verity) - 10/5/00 verity.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 12K, Create Date: Aug-27-02 14:28 http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2000/10/verity.htm 16: Companies That Billed Consumers for Adult Videotext Internet Services Settle FTC Charges integretel.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 17K, Create Date: Dec-02-02 15:13 http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2002/11/integretel.htm 17: FTC Attacks E-Mail Scam audiot10.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 6K, Create Date: May-20-02 11:13 http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1999/9905/audiot10.htm 18: Statement of Jodie Bernstein: 02/19/97 audiotex1.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 6K, Create Date: Aug-28-98 09:32 http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1997/9702/audiotex1.htm 19: FTC v. Audilotex Connection, Inc., et al. audiotex.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 9K, Create Date: May-20-02 11:47 http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1997/9702/audiotex.htm 20: Fighting Consumer Fraud: The Case Against Cramming fightingconsumerfraud.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 37K, Create Date: Jun-17-99 14:33 http://www.ftc.gov/reports/Fraud/3rd...sumerfraud.htm 21: Speech: Starek - "Unfairness, Internet Advertising and Innovative Remedies" aaffin.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 36K, Create Date: Mar-15-97 00:00 http://www.ftc.gov/speeches/starek/aaffin.htm 22: Unsolicited Commercial Email unsolicommemail.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 59K, Create Date: Apr-26-01 13:51 http://www.ftc.gov/os/2001/04/unsolicommemail.htm 23: Voice Media Incorporated - Ana voicemediaana.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 6K, Create Date: Apr-17-01 13:33 http://www.ftc.gov/os/2001/04/voicemediaana.htm 24: Voice Media Incorporated - Agree voicemediaagree.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 23K, Create Date: Apr-17-01 14:09 http://www.ftc.gov/os/2001/04/voicemediaagree.htm 25: Voice Media Incorporated - Decision Order voicemediado.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 21K, Create Date: May-25-01 10:24 http://www.ftc.gov/os/2001/05/voicemediado.htm 26: FTC v. RJB Telcom, Inc., et al. - Stipulated Final Judgment rjbstip.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 48K, Create Date: Oct-18-01 13:54 http://www.ftc.gov/os/2001/08/rjbstip.htm 27: RJB Telcom, Inc. - Cmp rjbtelcomcomplaint.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 18K, Create Date: Oct-30-00 20:48 http://www.ftc.gov/os/2000/10/rjbtelcomcomplaint.htm 28: FTC v. Interactive Audiotext Services, Inc., etr al. abc.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 26K, Create Date: Apr-23-98 00:00 http://www.ftc.gov/os/1998/9804/abc.htm 29: FTC v. Carlos Pereira, et al. - Certfication atarizcert.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 23K, Create Date: Sep-22-99 06:36 http://www.ftc.gov/os/1999/9909/atarizcert.htm 30: Unsolicited Commercial E-Mail spamtestimony991103.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 33K, Create Date: Jan-19-00 02:24 http://www.ftc.gov/os/1999/9911/spamtestimony991103.htm 31: Media Resources menu-media.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 115K, Create Date: Dec-23-02 12:04 http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/menu-media.htm 32: (Untitled) caru01.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 36K, Create Date: Apr-28-97 00:00 http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/privacy/wkshp...ts2/caru01.htm 33: Comment 008 - Childrens' Advertising Review Unite/Council of Better Business Bureaus caru.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 42K, Create Date: Apr-28-97 00:00 http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/privacy/wkshp...ents2/caru.htm 34: Putting a Lid on Deceptive Spam spam.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 18K, Create Date: Dec-12-02 11:57 http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/features/spam.htm 35: High-Tech Scenario: Modem Redialing hitech_scenario.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 8K, Create Date: Dec-12-02 11:57 http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/audio...h_scenario.htm 36: Break the Chain pressroom.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 9K, Create Date: Jul-19-02 07:50 http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/edcam.../pressroom.htm 37: Cost of Free Adult Content Adds Up adultalrt.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 6K, Create Date: May-22-02 16:32 http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/.../adultalrt.htm 38: Staff Opinion: Cohn-Ellyatt ellyatt.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 39K, Create Date: Oct-06-99 19:13 http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/adcon/900rule/ellyatt.htm 39: INTERNATIONAL AUDIOTEXT ASSOCIATION iac1.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 35K, Create Date: Mar-15-99 21:37 http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/adcon/900rule/comments2/iac1.htm 40: National Consumers League ncl1.htm, Search in: Full Website File size: 51K, Create Date: Mar-16-99 15:06 http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/adcon/900rule/comments2/ncl1.htm ***************************** iF there's anything else I can do for you don't be shy, I'd be glad to help you out. 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/me notices my name is not on that list..
/me wipes brow. whew! what exactly was the point of posting that? there are some well known.. reputable people on that list.. Just shows me that even honest programs can fall victim of false accusations. for example RJB.. maxcash.. arnt they like the oldest sponsor in this industry? I have never heard a negative word about them. |
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You're right in that customers probably don't even understand what "exclusive content" even means, BUT they are not dummies, and if they're seeing content they've seen many times before, they are going to say "Fuck you!" to your $37. And BTW, I don't think there's a site in the world worth $37/mo, but give me a freebie membership and if I'm blown away I'll come back and say so. |
oh sinfulone, did you actually read any of these? or did you just decide to post what appears to be a larger list than it really is?
RJB -- was not fined millions and did not pay millions in fines. Read it. Voice Media -- was not fined millionsand did not pay millions in fines. Read it. XPICS -- was not fined millions and did not pay fines of millions. Read it. Charlo -- was not fined millions and did not pay fines of millions. Read it. Hell, most of these people were not fined at all, unless you are confusing escrow with a punitive action. Carlos Perreira? He ever turn up anywhere? Hard to collect from someone that doesn't necessarily exist. I also find it funny how you've lumped a bunch of audiotext in with the internet stuff. And how you've pulled up the same case in more than one instance but listed it as if it were different. I guess that goes to show that you can try to make a case for anything. |
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Its a $1 trial for a month http://www.skinnybitches.com/defaultD.php?id=50097527 And if they are really smart they can probably get to see it all for free on the tgp's |
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[B]Oh man, has this thread taken a turn for the funny. For every sponsor that shaves, there are 100 affiliates that cheat and steal. And 1000 surfers that lie and dodge and have figured out the many many ways to get off without paying for it. It's all about the numbers, there is nothing else to this. ============================ That's interesting... If I shaved someone's earning I would expect them to try to fuck me back so I miss your point on that one.... If I was an adult surfer and a sponser butt fucked my credit card for doing business with them, I would find every way I could to fuck them back. again I miss your point..... Perhaps you place to much importance on your economic teachings. Maybe your economics teacher forgot to tell you that--economist aren't accurate, it's all bullshit, it's never worked and it never will, in fact the weather man is more accurate. And the Law of Diminishing Returns and the Law of Averages might apply to dog food and butt plugs but it has nothing to do with providing adult entertainment to an audience. I do agree with you on one point. It certainly is all about the numbers and the more the sponsers short change the consumers the more traffic these guys have to send just so they can eat. You know something I'm beginning to like you! Are you pretty? Peace! :moon |
sinbfull, you should try to post in rhimes, maybe it would start making more sense then ...
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because the only ones who can really afford your content are the sponsors your ripping on. I sure hope Jennycards can afford it. |
my sites kicks ass, have awesome retention, and a very low cb/refund percentage.
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company. You should take a little time and check it out. I liked what I saw here tonight, you do care and you have a lot of class. The programs you offer are solid and realistic, I looked. I read that you're going to be in L.A. New Years. If you have some time let's get together I'll tell you the reason why we're here and what we intend on doing. It could be you we do it with. my email is [email protected] drop me a line if you're interested. |
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my comments weren't directed toward you. I looked at your program and there's nothing wrong it. It's easy to see why you have high conversions. I think the way you're going about it is the right way and an honest way. We're not here to sell content to sponsers, we're here to help out this industry. If you take a look at our site you'll see that we're a little bit different. We may choose a sponser to work with and if we do that sponser is going to own a major share of this market which will be a lot bigger than it is now. :thumbsup |
This thread is great, it's amazing watching all the Idiots saying that cheating is ok..... Some of you are truly pathetic:1orglaugh
trying to justify that being a little deceptive is ok??....LMAO, well when it's all said and done, and you rest your head on your pillow, it's only YOU you have to justify to...hahahaha Some of you who "think" you have a clue, are actually, the clueless ones:Graucho |
"This thread is great, it's amazing watching all the Idiots saying that cheating is ok..."
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Man. Quiet is a n00b. :winkwink: |
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Here's just a few examples... You join a site because it's a Mature" site. You pay your fee...go to the members area..and 99% of the content is anything but mature....Mainstream equivelent...You pay to go see the movie Harry Potter...they play Star Trek instead...both good movies, but I can guarantee that you will walk out or demand your money back. It doesn't matter if the second movie is good. That's not what you wanted to see. Trials that need to be cancelled before end of trial: A mainstream equivelent: This would be similar to going to a ski hill and taking out some demos for 3 hours. But in the contract, somewhre on the 3rd page, after a bunch of other legal mumble jumble, there is a clause that says if you don't return them in 2 hours, you are charged full price for the skis. And the contract is not automatically given to you. You need to knock on a door at the back of the shop that says contract. You rent a car for 2 days. Before the car is given to you, they clearly explain to you that the car needs to be back at XX time, or else you are charged for another day. On adult sites, not even in the T & C's does it ever state if a day is based on 24 hours or end of day...For example, Hustler's sites 1 day trials end at midnight. Try to find that anywhere in their terms. This goes completely against common sense. Dialers...well there is a mainstream equivelent. It's called lottery scams. You know, the ones that say "dial this number to collect your prize". Unfortunately the number is an overseas number which bills you an outrageous amount per minute. I'm starting to think that the reason many of you are in this business is because you simply lack the intelligence to make it in the real world. |
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if we don't meet in LA we can meet in Vegas. I tried to email you but it bounced back |
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If so he was misstaken because we have a ton of content in Mature with the rest of our other content behind it there are just so many old ladies that will posr nude and we are always adding more content. I don't think you understand what it takes to run a successful paysite since you gave up and now send all your traffic to Danny ash. But I can say our conversions kick ass, retention is great and chargebacks under 1% and we are ranked number one on statistcian which is from a mix of traffic from what I understand. |
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I bet you fall for all those great deals from mainstream with rebates. the cell phone is only $99 after you send in your $100 rebate which most people don't. In everything you purchase there is some deceptive marketing you think all the fast food chains offer 99 cent deals not knowing your going to upgrade to a supersize for only 50 cents more your crazy. I can go on and on do you know what all those small charges are on your phonebill I bet you pay them all not knowing you don't have to. Etc. Do you ever buy DVD's from the warehouse or virgin in bold it says $19.95 in small print after you send in your rebate or buy two more movies etc. Oh and AOL's free 1000 min. CDroms they send out to everyone these are all forms of deceptive marketing to get you to use there products or there services |
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Rebates...these are not deceptive..nothing is hidden from the consumer...they know full well about the offer...try again .99 cent specials upsells..again not deceptive...the consumer has full disclosure...and if he chooses to upgrade, he knows the price...and he doesn't just get to try the meal for 3 days, or reguritate 24 hours before the end of 3 days or pay for a bigger meal. I personally frequent Wendy's and NEVER supersize...but I know the choice is there...and there's no confusion about what it will cost me Phone bills...again full disclosure... DVD's..yep, I agree those are sleazy.. So once again you point to a couple of sleazy operations like DVD's to say...look ma, everyone is doing it.... Nope...everyone is not doing it. That's the whole point..you guys don't have a fucking clue that people in the normal world don't operate this way. And the few that do...probably less then .01%...does not justify you using underhanded techniques... This is pointless....and you are making my head hurt.... I've always been amazed by criminals they show on A & E, who are trying to get parolled...but don't have the common sense to understand that what they did was wrong...It's all getting clearer now... |
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ROFL, now this thread is getting funny.
Let's see, Columbia House, AOL, Efax, Book of the Month Club, BowFlex, a ton of shareware companies, shall I continue? These are all purveyors of deceptive advertising using this analogy... The bottom line is pretty simple. It is a consumers duty to read the terms of an offer before they make a purchase. It is the sellers duty to put the terms somewhere that they can be easily accessed. There is no law that says the terms have to be in 200 point type on the join page, though there is a Visa rule that says the amount of the charge, when it recurs, how often it recurs and for what amount have to be on the join page. And if we are going to talk about TOS -- well let's talk about Microsoft, AOL, Adobe, and every major software manufacturer out there. They use scrolling boxes for their terms on install, LONG scrolling boxes as a matter of fact. How many of you read those terms? That's what I thought. But you still check the box, saying you've read the terms don't you? Therefore YOU, as a consumer, have put yourself in a position of blame, no one else has. Now before some people start screaming that I am supporting cheating and defrauding surfers and cutting the heads off live bats, I am not. I am simply bringing up the point that seems to be so deliberately overlooked by certain people. The consumer is going to do what he wants, whether it's because he's got a hand on his dick and the other one on his credit card OR because he's too fucking lazy to read the terms of service. It's pretty much irrelevant. Now sites that say one thing on their join page disclosure and something wildly different in their terms, that I do not like and it does alot of damage. But let's don't confuse every site with being one of those sites |
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I still don't know what you consider deceptive because if you think what we do is considered deceptive your better off moving to some Island. consumers have been brain washed and screwed over in many ways not from deceptive marketing but from the bumbarding of brands, People thinking they need to buy Nike or drink Coke because these companies have billions to do it. the news shows us what they want us to see and its not always the full facts. Is that deceptive or misleading? the bottom line is I don't understand what some of you bitch about so I'm trying to learn from you |
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Could this be love at first bite? I like you! What you're saying is true.... but consider for sec. that we don't live and die by any set of rules. Since I'm strangly attracted to your name I'll give you our strategy in a nutshell. Here's the industry right now ----------- there's no breathing room and that's real bad, and it's going to get worse if something isn't done. Read this article, you may not agree with all of it but it's worth your time. http://www.sinamotion.com/sinamotion_large_005.htm Our strategy: I have two. The one we prefer is to partner with one the honest sponsers and do this. ----sponser---- | | ----the rest----- Now we have a situation that is good. It's called the chase and the reason why it's a good thing is because it puts the industry back into an active state of innovation. You studied economics... this industry was born from innovation and the last 5-6 year's it has been in the second phase called imitation. I'm seeing signs that tell me that the imitation phase is maxed out which if not corrected 2003 might be the year the industry enters the third phase which is FALLOUT. ---plan#2--- We'll create our own sponser program. or we'll put the traffic senders in business for free and they can pay us back a % of their earnings. We have access to 100's of hours of exclusive content from around world including our own. ------------------------------------------------ My partner and I are very nice people and we're here to help and we have the firepower and experience to do it. It would be great if you old timer's could find the energy again to roll up your sleeves and help us out. I'm not convinced there's enough time for us to do it alone. But we will try if that become's our only option. [Vegas] I'll be there for a day or so, my partner will be there for a week. Is this an invite to hang out naked in the hot tub with you? T.C.:winkwink: |
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Its $1 for a month trial that we pay webmasters $25 on.and then it rebills at a full price so we pay you out up front and we don't make our money till month later http://www.agedladies.com/defaultD.php?id=50097510 the best deal in town :thumbsup |
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responded to a few messages. In your case you just happen to be innocently caught in the crossfire. I should of done a little investigating first but I guess I got a little trigger happy. The purpose of my messages are to see who runs and hides and who doesn't, it works really well. I now have you and KimmyKim seperated from the pack. I also noticed that you didn't get much support from the other sponsers and that tells me a lot also. If people take a moment and study Pornkings program it's really easy to come to two conclusions. 1 - His program is workable without having to shave. The word "FREE" is a powerful incentive for any consumer. 2 - He's basically giving up out of his own pocket instead of offering you something that would be coming out of your pocket by shaving. Another thing to keep in mind is that the programs that offer you a pie in the sky put a lot of pressure on an honest businessman. It always results in them absorbing more loss for their choice of operating honestly. If the industry lose's it's sponser's like Pornkings for lack of your support you will be the biggest suckers that have ever lived. |
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While I, in no way, condone "shady" business practices, I have an observation to make...
When was the last time any of you met anyone who actually read each and every word of gloppy legalese on a mortgage or loan contract (car, boat, student loan promissory note, etc.), rental agreement from Blockbuster or the local Rent-To-Own store, etc? How many people actually read through their cable, satellite, or phone bills and know and understand exactly what they're being charged for? How many people actually KNOW that if you get hit with a foul ball or broken bat at a baseball game, neither the team nor the stadium can be held liable (it's right there on your ticket, by the way)? My point is simply this: A vast majority of consumers only want to know the bottom line... how much is my payment, when is it due, what goods/services do I receive for my money. Car manufacturers, for example, NEVER put the terms of the warranty in the original contract, but just try getting warranty service if you don't follow their rules (which may or may not be referrenced in the vehicle owner's manual)! How many homeowners suddenly receive a notice in the mail regarding a 10-year balloon payment of $12,500 and have to scramble like hell to pull the cash together or risk losing their house? The problem as I see it is that Joe Consumer knows damned good and well the legal system and the courts will back him up if he screams "foul" loudly enough. Doesn't matter that he didn't use common sense or read the fine print... if he thinks he's been wronged by some evil business owner, he can take them to court or get Visa to give him six months' credit for a one-month membership. I fail to see why ANY business, mainstream, adult, or internet, should have to babysit its customers. The onus should be on the consumer to prove they read the fine print, not on the business to defend why they have it. Ignorance should never be a viable defense. The bottom line is that, while we may not like it, there is very little that goes on in the adult industry that hasn't been being done by mainstream businesses for years. Sure, there are some adult companies (and I'm not singling anyone out here) which have made it a habit to push the envelope to the extreme and I certainly don't agree with that tactic at all, but I still believe it's just the same old dance step with a funky new twist. |
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