you send to dannicash or use there members section I don't get it?

whats your retention on $9.95 a month and who do you process with?
I have a small site as well megaporn.com which is $6.95 a month no BS.

lets put both our members sections up and see what the webmasters prefer your 9.95 0r our $6.95
this way we can put all this to rest just a little competetion are you up for it?

No.

Nothing is free.

I was just looking for the content place or wherever man.

I rather set up my own email script and do my own ezine. I have more content than I need right now, I have toonist friends, writer friends I dont need to give my traffic away man.

;)

Uh oh.. shit, I knew I forgot to do something this month.. :winkwink:

That's possible ... I behaved just like an ordinary surfer .... those usually don't care where the pop-up was coming from.

I never complained about their behaviour towards webmasters but towards their customers.

Legally spoken you are right. But with every banner ad I am kind of recommending something so I am somewhat responsible too.
Sad enough.

"Marks'...I'm still waiting on an explanation of your"questionable" T & C's. And as far as showing you my sites...go to Dannicash. That's who I use...no trials...no b.s. and top rate quality. And pure rev share. "

... what the hell is questionable about the t&t´s ... it says 24h ... that´s onethousandandfourty minutes of time to cancle ...

how about a url of your sites big boy ??

You are welcome.

Maybe just as crazy as an average customer of yours.

Pornking, I would really appreciate discussing this in a business-like manner and omitting any personal offences.

It's a link from your member' area ... very much on the top ... and what the heck are those "hacks"you are talking about??

Just what I said.

I send my traffic to dannicash. My own website is something I play with now and then. It's 100% holio feeds... But the dannicash sites are my bread and butter. And the popup killer /history killer software is also a nice suppliment.

And retention....I don't do rebills...I actually send out an email saying "your membership is about to expire - do you want to renew". They have to renew, it is not automatic. Some do, some don't.

But, anyhow, my whole purpose of posting on threads like this is because the business tactics of many of the webmasters (a polite way of saying thiefs) is disgusting. And I don't do anything "for what the webmasters prefer" nor do I care what you do, unless it's scamming. My business is for the customers..and I treat them like gold.

That's exactly what I have been doing for 2 years now. :)
Still I am looking for sponsors to convert part of the traffic that does not subscribe to our site.

"My business is for the customers..and I treat them like gold."

... yes, we know that by now ... so please post some url from where your traffic is going to dannis ... but hey, you won´t ... will ya ?

But your trial is only for 1 day ( you still haven't confirmed if that is 24 hours - or at the end of day, as in midnight.),...Even if it is 24 hours, your T & C's say they have to cancel 24 hours before end of trial...So, are you saying they have to cancel at the same second they take out the membership...hmm something doesn't compute here.


And which part of the above paragraph was beyond the processing power of your pea like brain....I use Dannicash...that's who I send traffic to...[url]www.dannicash.com[url] ... check out there programs...surf away big boy

then don't make false accusations.

we don't have endless pop ups and we don't have pop ups in our members sections.

we have more content and exclusive content then most sites out there and we give them a $1 Trial for a month.

what type of sponsor are you looking for.
we have great sites, a great promotion and we convert the best what more do you need.

if you wanted to discuss this in a business type manner you could have emailed me,ICQ,AIM or called me. all my contact info is on pornkings.com.

your card must have declined and you got our 404. we don't have xxxpix in our members area did it look like this
www.xxxpix.com if it did you got declined and got our members section with all upsells

Mark...here is the url...since you seem to have a hard time figuring out that Dannicash is an affiliate program....
Check it out...no trials...no pop-ups...no cross sells...and awesome quality. A good example of how the adult industry should be run....

http://www.danni.com/directors/dannicash?dcwid=

In fact I paid by PayPal ... subscription was confirmed.
I just wanted to check back but username doesn't work any more ... what a coincidence.

"Even if it is 24 hours, your T & C's say they have to cancel 24 hours before end of trial.."

... well, than we will change that to "within", thanks for letting me know ...

... hahaha, you don´t get it, do you?

I would like to see one of your own domains, you know a website where traffic hits before it get´s to danni´s. is this so hard to understand, or have you got something to hide??

I dont understand you.. Are you with some civil rights group or anti e-commerce group or something? wtf is your problem with making money? I look at your site for 9.95 a month.. and I KNOW you are not making money.. atleast not enough to live on and pay your bills... Im not guessing either.

What is so hard to understand about this being a business?

businesses usually try and make profit.. not the other way around. This is no different than real life everyday joe on the street selling hotdogs.. the hotdog is 99 cents.. but you gott buy the ketcup/mustard.. napkins and a drink right? Many fast food places now charge for condiments (sp*?)

my point is.. NOTHING is what it seems.. there is true deception.. and there is creative marketing/advertising.. the 2 are different. But you seem to have failed either economics or business class... because you sure have a problem with profitablilty.

Amazing jenny, all these passwords magically disappearing!

Sponsors name-calling, scrambling to fix all the errors their thousands of members see on a daily basis (right before they charge back.)

Good thread, a shame it has been dominated by a select few who all use the same types of deceptive marketing practices.

:)

I don't have a problem with your specific program (though I was ready to promote it ... that's why all that started); as the subject of this thread reads, it's about the industry as a whole.

Pornking, I am sure your program is good for webmasters and not the worst for customers and I dont question your honesty.

Nevertheless, I am sure our industry will change significantly over the next few years (if not months) and programs like yours will not survive (I have no doubt you are going to run another successful program by that time though).

Why won't you answer his questions?

http://www.goodart.org/attack.htm

Truly the tool of the weak. Lots of it going on in here! I give jenny respect for speaking up about this, it is left to everyone else to draw their own conclusions based on the reactions of those on the 'other side' of the argument.

A good GFY piss!

Dont you think if roger had a high chargeback ratio that his processor would 'counsil' him?

I have a similar type model as roger.. and out of my 6000 transactions i have had 1 chargeback. go figure.

LOL

"Why won't you answer his questions?"

... I have answerd his, now I want to get mine answered.

12clicks being against honesty, what a suprise. :321GFY


Funkmaster, I had been thinking about promoting one of your sites a little, but after seeing your posts in this thread I would never consider it. Ripping off surfers for a quick buck isn't the way you should be thinking anymore.

Oh man, has this thread taken a turn for the funny.

For every sponsor that shaves, there are 100 affiliates that cheat and steal. And 1000 surfers that lie and dodge and have figured out the many many ways to get off without paying for it.

It's all about the numbers, there is nothing else to this.

For those of you who've ever taken an economics class and perhaps made at least a C in it, I'll direct you to the Law of Diminishing Returns and the Law of Averages.

These are not pie in the sky suggestions as to why surfers don't stay around, these are concrete proofs of numbers given a certain situation.

Next we'll talk about Poisson Distribution and how it plays a part in all this if you'd like.

maybe you didn't have the funds not sure I will look into it.

please email me your info and username and pass for some reason you didn't get access.
so I guess you still havn't seen our members section email me and I will give you access
[email protected]

the leader, we have console free links to any of our sites, and if you can send in a decent amount of signups I am more than willing to get a crossbill free signupform especially designed for you and all the others that want to have that ...

.. as of brave jennycards, pornkings posted:

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your card must have declined and you got our 404. we don't have xxxpix in our members area did it look like this
www.xxxpix.com if it did you got declined and got our members section with all upsells
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... I knew she/he was wrong in the first place when attacking pornkings, so I just took the chance to support roger like I would support anybody else if attacked the wrong way.

what are you trying to say she never got in our memebrs section
she got this www.xxxpix.com not our members section
our members section is great nothing needs fixing join and take a look for yourself.

I'm off to eat be back later

In a word, "NO". Approx 80 to 90% of my traffic comes from search engines. And yes, I am particularily good at this part of the business. Will I share my secrets...why would I? As you will read, no where in my posts am I saying my sites are better...or I get better conversions..in fact I have said the opposite. Again, I reiterate, my point is, if you cheat the customer....you are a thief..,

Do I have something to hide...yes...my marketing techniques. And say I was scamming the customer...(which I don't)..all this would prove is that you shouldn't throw stones in glass houses...but my rant and accusations of other's slimey business tactics would not remain any less true.

And talking about questions, you have still only answered one...the other is still unanswered:

...Is your one day trial 24 hours in length...or does it end at midnight on the day of issue...and if midnight, by whose time zone?

LMAO ok lets put some money where your mouth is.
I will be around or as long as I want to be around.

And we make changes all the time trust me We know what we are doing do you.

No, no ... I DID access your member's section; the password WAS working ... but it stopped working ... maybe because I didn't want to be rebilled $37 and canceled my account after 15 minutes? :Graucho

By the way ... though some of you might think I am a pussy I do have a dick between my legs :thumbsup

Username: pp-snaremurky

:winkwink:

" In a word, "NO". Approx 80 to 90% of my traffic comes from search engines. And yes, I am particularily good at this part of the business. Will I share my secrets...why would I?"

... I didn´t not ask you to share your secrets, I asked you to show me one of your clean domains, where you cuddle and kiss your surfers, where exit console is a no no and where surfers feel home ... but obviously you don´t want to, and I can live with that.

" ...Is your one day trial 24 hours in length...or does it end at midnight on the day of issue...and if midnight, by whose time zone?"

... read above, it´s been answered.

I miss read your post .
we do everything we can to keep our members and convert them.

try us out

Roger.. Your a fucking rock man.. Are you going to Rap this week?


And the more I read KK.. I like her more..

lol

I don't think this should be rocket science...

1) Surfers (should) want a site they like and can afford, that is updated frequently with easy to find, new, on-topic content, and charges them only the pre-agreed price at the pre-agreed times.

2) Webmasters (should) want to send traffic to a sponsor who has sites that surfers want, who doesn't shave hits or cents, and who pays a pre-agreed reasonable amount of their profits ontime everytime.

3) Sponsors (should) want happy surfers and webmasters, and to keep a reasonable amount of the profits for their efforts.

So isn't the answer obvious what the working formula should be?

Send your traffic to an honest company that works hard to create good websites.

simple.

if $37 is a problem to you, then get out of this bussiness !!
$37 is a trip to a good resturant, so would you please stop complaining. Buy a decent hosting, and some fresh content and build a new site if you want to make money.