Don't deposting your WebmasterChecks - BUSTED by us dept of justice?? - GoFuckYourself.com

gleem · 04-21-2010, 12:11 PM

Holy crap:

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Hey everyone,

For anyone who receives their payouts in check/cheque, we would request that you do not try to deposit them. There appears to be an issue with WebmasterChecks and the US Dept of Justice. If you want faster payment, please send us your check/cheques and we will gladly send out hand written checks and or epassporte payments to all affiliates who cannot deposit their payments. We will certainly cover the fee for epassporte or any returned checks/cheques.

We apologize for any inconvenience and appreciate your patience in this matter.

Regards,
Minnie
Affiliate Manager

Contacts:
ICQ: 557634220
Email: affiliates at twistys.com

what the fuck I'm gona do with my pile of five figures sitting in their checks?

_Richard_ · 04-21-2010, 12:15 PM

ouch.. any confirmation?

Domain Broker · 04-21-2010, 12:16 PM

yup, got the email too

fatfoo · 04-21-2010, 12:17 PM

It sure is bad when you can't deposit a cheque. A cheque that can't be deposited - what a bad feeling.

BestXXXPorn · 04-21-2010, 12:19 PM

AND THAT is how you handle a problem with your payments...

Hats off to you Twistys...

st0ned · 04-21-2010, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fatfoo

It sure is bad when you can't deposit a cheque. A cheque that can't be deposited - what a bad feeling.

Must you reply with your nonsense in every thread on GFY?

Lace · 04-21-2010, 12:22 PM

More info please..Got a few sponsors who use WMC

SteveHardeman · 04-21-2010, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn

AND THAT is how you handle a problem with your payments...

Hats off to you Twistys...

Exactly what I was thinking. Class. And no, I'm not being sarcastic.

SEO Expert · 04-21-2010, 12:25 PM

what about wires? is there gonna be problems?

seeandsee · 04-21-2010, 12:28 PM

what wires have with wmchecks service?!? or they do that too

notime · 04-21-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn

AND THAT is how you handle a problem with your payments...

Hats off to you Twistys...

Efficient and proper customer service indeed.

TheDA · 04-21-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fatfoo

It sure is bad when you can't deposit a cheque. A cheque that can't be deposited - what a bad feeling.

Fuck off with your inane drivel!

Your sig doesn't conform to the rules either.

If you want sig money in the future it would porbably be better not to get it banned!

v4 media · 04-21-2010, 12:35 PM

Large amounts of money coming into the country and all going out in checks to different people..

The same as what brazzers got their millions seized for.

RaiderCash_Dominik · 04-21-2010, 12:37 PM

Whats going on people. Why the fuck is Justice Department involved here?

Wizzo · 04-21-2010, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn

AND THAT is how you handle a problem with your payments...

Hats off to you Twistys...

I have a feeling* its going to be ALOT bigger than Twistys and they aren't the root of it...

Why · 04-21-2010, 12:38 PM

i find this pretty amusing... only because we were discussing the brazzers case the other day and i pointed out that webmasterchecks does the same thing and violates the same laws.... people should know better after paypal got busted for same thing 5+ years ago.

Chosen · 04-21-2010, 12:38 PM

This is definitely ain't no good...

Wizzo · 04-21-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveHardeman

Exactly what I was thinking. Class. And no, I'm not being sarcastic.

You should maybe buy a clue...

Mutt · 04-21-2010, 12:41 PM

damn, sounds like some programs are going to be out a lot of money. twistys can cover it, others will have a tougher time.

webmaster checks have any business dealing with casino and betting companies?

Juicy D. Links · 04-21-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fatfoo

It sure is bad when you can't deposit a cheque. A cheque that can't be deposited - what a bad feeling.

$50 if you stop posting lmk

GrouchyAdmin · 04-21-2010, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveHardeman

Exactly what I was thinking. Class. And no, I'm not being sarcastic.

Nothing says class like pretty much destroying any hope WMC may have had for recovery by being a complete ass to your entire affiliate list.

Agent 488 · 04-21-2010, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

webmaster checks have any business dealing with casino and betting companies?

brazzers

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SteveHardeman · 04-21-2010, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

Nothing says class like pretty much destroying any hope WMC may have had for recovery by being a complete ass to your entire affiliate list.

This is a bad situation man. You can never go wrong with full disclosure.

BestXXXPorn · 04-21-2010, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

Nothing says class like pretty much destroying any hope WMC may have had for recovery by being a complete ass to your entire affiliate list.

Twistys learns of the problem and makes a statement to all their affiliates saying not to worry; they'll make sure you get paid and provide information on how to get a new check issued...

Forgive my ignorance here but how does this make an ass of their entire affiliate list?

Wizzo · 04-21-2010, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveHardeman

This is a bad situation man. You can never go wrong with full disclosure.

I mis-read your post above, sorry for the clue comment..

arock10 · 04-21-2010, 01:12 PM

well that sucks

SteveHardeman · 04-21-2010, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo

I mis-read your post above, sorry for the clue comment..

No worries. I actually do need to get some clues. I'm running low. Thanks for the reminder.

jimmy-3-way · 04-21-2010, 01:13 PM

For the record I called this a year and a half ago.

You're welcome.

RP Fade · 04-21-2010, 01:15 PM

We deposited some checks earlier this month and have not heard from the bank or our accountant so im not sure if this affects only all new checks or recent checks within the last 1-2 weeks?

GrouchyAdmin · 04-21-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn

Twistys learns of the problem and makes a statement to all their affiliates saying not to worry; they'll make sure you get paid and provide information on how to get a new check issued...

Forgive my ignorance here but how does this make an ass of their entire affiliate list?

Twisty's affiliate manager makes an assertion and makes a statement which is likely to rile up their already-wearing-tinfoil-hat affiliates who, in turn, lose faith in a company that has done nothing wrong but obviously somehow get involved with another one's payments.

By this, I'm stating that they're intentionally throwing Chrissy in the fire for this but hey, they'll make good on the checks. I don't think is good practice.

It doesn't make an ass of the affiliates; it makes an ass to the entire affiliates list. It was a dick move; I feel it was done very poorly, and I say that as a person who stares at tranny dicks for a living.

gleem · 04-21-2010, 01:32 PM

Imagine if the DOJ just took all the money in their accounts for good (I'm sure they froze em already). That means sponsors payments to Webmasterchecks are basically gone for a couple pay periods. How many sponsors can afford that and still payout the affiliates?

BradM · 04-21-2010, 01:35 PM

does it have anything to do with WMC sending payments out for brazzers?

BestXXXPorn · 04-21-2010, 01:35 PM

I'm not sure that stating the facts and providing an alternate payment vehicle for "faster payment" qualifies as intentionally throwing WMC under the bus. I see this as taking care of their affiliates.

If they were to say nothing about it they would run the risk of damaging their own reputation as a sponsor. I would be upset with a sponsor if they didn't take some course of action to rectify an issue with being paid... I guess I'm at a loss as to how it could have been handled more diplomatically?

I'm not trying to be an ass here, just discern exactly what, in your eyes, would have been the correct way to handle it. I'm always interested in hearing additional ways to tactfully handle any bad situation without pissing off anyone involved ;)

RaiderCash_Dominik · 04-21-2010, 01:37 PM

Are they part of CCBill crew? i know they work out of Arizona as well.

VirtualAdultAgent · 04-21-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RaiderCash_Dominik

Are they part of CCBill crew? i know they work out of Arizona as well.

No they are not.

GrouchyAdmin · 04-21-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn

I'm not sure that stating the facts and providing an alternate payment vehicle for "faster payment" qualifies as intentionally throwing WMC under the bus. I see this as taking care of their affiliates.

If they were to say nothing about it they would run the risk of damaging their own reputation as a sponsor. I would be upset with a sponsor if they didn't take some course of action to rectify an issue with being paid... I guess I'm at a loss as to how it could have been handled more diplomatically?

I'm not trying to be an ass here, just discern exactly what, in your eyes, would have been the correct way to handle it. I'm always interested in hearing additional ways to tactfully handle any bad situation without pissing off anyone involved ;)

Taking care of the affiliates would have required merely stating there was an issue with their processor; instead we have this shitfest all over the front page of the same goddamn email.

They've offered to recut checks if you send the old ones back. Anyone can do that, and it's swell they opted to do so - but they didn't need to create this shitfest.

It appears that this may have all been a momentary thing caused because of the payments for Brazzers; as heavily relied upon as WMC is for processing, this is going to scare more affiliates away from programs who do/have used them, and has done nothing to decrease the noise:signal ratio.

I honestly feel sending the message as a primary 'issue with processing' without making the statement regarding the reasoning why would be fine for an initial contact. My guess is this will likely be (partially) resolved by the end of the week - but that this whole thing has crushed WMC, and they'll never be able to recover from it.

Before someone climbs up my ass, I'm not saying 'affiliates don't need to know', I'm saying 'fix it and contend with it', without making the affiliate an unwitting party to what has nothing to do with them.

TheDA · 04-21-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RaiderCash_Dominik

Are they part of CCBill crew? i know they work out of Arizona as well.

They were working on getting their system integrated with CCBill but I think that's as far as it goes.

hypedough · 04-21-2010, 02:05 PM

Can we get an official statement from WMC on this? We just switched to NATS but haven't made any payments through them, they need to make things to clear to both affiliates and program owners as a whole.

Agent 488 · 04-21-2010, 02:09 PM

hope the programs that use them clarify what is going on soon.

V_RocKs · 04-21-2010, 02:12 PM

Crazy shit...

V_RocKs · 04-21-2010, 02:14 PM

If CCBILL had operating relations with WMC, meaning they were owned by the same people, they'd be using their service. They don't.

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	damn, sounds like some programs are going to be out a lot of money. twistys can cover it, others will have a tougher time. webmaster checks have any business dealing with casino and betting companies? __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 30,989	ouch.. any confirmation?

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v4 media Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 2,934	Large amounts of money coming into the country and all going out in checks to different people.. The same as what brazzers got their millions seized for.

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RaiderCash_Dominik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,145	Whats going on people. Why the fuck is Justice Department involved here?

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Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	i find this pretty amusing... only because we were discussing the brazzers case the other day and i pointed out that webmasterchecks does the same thing and violates the same laws.... people should know better after paypal got busted for same thing 5+ years ago.

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gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	Imagine if the DOJ just took all the money in their accounts for good (I'm sure they froze em already). That means sponsors payments to Webmasterchecks are basically gone for a couple pay periods. How many sponsors can afford that and still payout the affiliates? __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

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BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	does it have anything to do with WMC sending payments out for brazzers?

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RaiderCash_Dominik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,145	Are they part of CCBill crew? i know they work out of Arizona as well.

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V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	If CCBILL had operating relations with WMC, meaning they were owned by the same people, they'd be using their service. They don't.