Is any of your content up on forums dot shooshtime dot com

[sarettah]

forums dot shooshtime dot com

I was just looking around on there and it looks like another fucking pirate board

Saw some naughty america stuff right off the bat.

Anyone know who's board it is?

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

from what i've been told, shoosh is next to impossible to get your content off...

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

from what i've been told, shoosh is next to impossible to get your content off...

Um...... you contact vBull with actual legal copyright complaint, and then they tell the host to remove the software per violation of T.O.S. in regards to using their software for illegal/copyright.

The end.

I have not looked at their T.O.S. in the past couple of years, but I know that used to be in there. I am not sure why so many are lazy and apathetic in getting this handled. vBull does (or used to) enforce this, just as they enforce their own licensing renewals.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

The end.

So I setup a forum for pirated/stolen material. What's stopping me from using a nulled copy of vB? I mean, it's not exactly hard to find one, and doing so would only make sense if I'm gonna pirate and steal everything else. Let's see them pull my license on me...

[BSleazy]

That forum has been up for years.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

from what i've been told, shoosh is next to impossible to get your content off...

Lemme see here. So we have the Achilles heel of the....

1. vBull license and T.O.S.

2. I see they are based in the U.S....

Registrant:
Ruben Granados
R G [email protected] +1.7142323235
ShooshTime Inc.
21750 allonby circle
yorba linda,CA,US 92887

3. I see they are hosted by..... Oh My Fucking God...

Domain servers in listed order:
ns1.zkonsult.com ns2.zkonsult.com

Which is THIS GUY who is bitching about RemoveYourContent here on GFY, and is notorious for telling people to piss off on DMCA complaints over on IQ69 (search: Moku).

He is ALSO based in the United State (San Jose, TN +1.408.439.0756).

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

So I setup a forum for pirated/stolen material. What's stopping me from using a nulled copy of vB? I mean, it's not exactly hard to find one, and doing so would only make sense if I'm gonna pirate and steal everything else. Let's see them pull my license on me...

Then that is real simple Jewish chum. You are stealing their software.

So they contact your host, just like they do when your license expires, and serve you with papers to remove their license or renew it. So your host forwards on to you, typically you have 15-30 days to prove or renew, and then it is removed.

If you refuse, I am sure that vBull will go ahead and escalate that for you.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Then that is real simple Jewish chum. You are stealing their software.

So they contact your host, just like they do when your license expires, and serve you with papers to remove their license or renew it. So your host forwards on to you, typically you have 15-30 days to prove or renew, and then it is removed.

If you refuse, I am sure that vBull will go ahead and escalate that for you.

If your host doesn't give a shit that you're hosting a massive piracy forum, do you really think they give a shit if you are using pirated forum software?

One thing I will agree with you on. IQ69 is made up of a bunch of piracy profiteering scum. All their most prolific members run huge rapidshare forums...

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Then that is real simple Jewish chum. You are stealing their software.

So they contact your host, just like they do when your license expires, and serve you with papers to remove their license or renew it. So your host forwards on to you, typically you have 15-30 days to prove or renew, and then it is removed.

If you refuse, I am sure that vBull will go ahead and escalate that for you.

You make it sound so easy! So, why are all the major piracy forums still running vBulletin after all these years without any fuss?

[sarettah]

Damn, usually my threads are totally ignored...lol.

Fucking pirate boards all over the damn place.

I don't know that I'd ever want to run such a "grey area" business model. To keep legal you would spend all your fucking time taking down links.

But I guess most of the folks who run boards like that aren't all that interested in legality.

Anyway, like I said I stumbled over it while looking for something else so I thought I would sound an alert, hate to see content all over the fucking place like that.

[Agent 488]

no money in huge rapidshare forums.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

no money in huge rapidshare forums.

Come on mang, it's all for the love of the game!

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

One thing I will agree with you on. IQ69 is made up of a bunch of piracy profiteering scum. All their most prolific members run huge rapidshare forums...

Well, I didn't say that. I honestly have no clue about most of the people there. However, this Moku guy I DO know about.

All you have to do is run a search, and grab some coffee. It will be awhile.

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

You make it sound so easy! So, why are all the major piracy forums still running vBulletin after all these years without any fuss?

I have went through those steps before man. So I know. Including faxing complaints to their registrar, hosting, processor, local law enforcement, FBI and Attorney General of their State. I also have a couple forums with vBull licenses. So I know their process.

There is absolutely nothing I love to see more than someone based in the U.S.. Especially those who think that hosting off shore will protect them legally when they live, and are incorporated here.

Now, the problem with this issue is. Few want to spend the money to go the distance. They hire RYC to send DMCA's, which he just pisses on. They do not follow it through to the next step once/repeatedly refused. They do not file a lawsuit.

You see, most of these guys are gamblers. They are gambling you will not find your content there. You will not DMCA them. You will not take the next legal steps. Most of the time, they are right.

So they are playing a high stakes gamble to see if you fold, or will spend the money taking them to court. Which most adult companies do not. They just rattle the sabre at these guys or bitch on message boards daily.

I mean, even the big adult companies do it. Open up any issue of XBIZ and you will see some company(ies) settling out of court instead of going the distance on these copyright/tube/forum lawsuits.

I can assure you if people would follow through on the paperwork, filing your copyrights, and spending the money to sue some of these guys into oblivion (since you know damn well most do not have LLC's in place), then you would get some results.

Instead, they just bitch on message boards daily. Even with the host is in their own back yard. The victims could actually see some results if they would follow through pm sending some docs to a few key places in their state.

[Senior_Spank]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Well, I didn't say that. I honestly have no clue about most of the people there. However, this Moku guy I DO know about.

You know 0 about me, but very nice try.

As for forums.shooshtime.com - Just like we have always done, if you have a valid DMCA request we will act upon it in a quick manner.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Senior_Spank

You know 0 about me, but very nice try.

Read.

All you have to do is run a search, and grab some coffee. It will be awhile.

Here... I will break it down to some easy numbered steps to clarify my original sentence and it's context.

1. Anyone can go to forum being mentioned (IQ69).
2. Run search for user name MOKU.
3. Grab coffee.
4. Learn years worth.
5. The end.

[Senior_Spank]

Year's worth of what is my point. I've done nothing wrong yet you are trying to portray me as some sort of villain. I, and my customers comply with the laws of the United States. So, what are you trying to imply is my question.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Senior_Spank

So, what are you trying to imply is my question

I pointed out the facts here in answering JewCat's post.

Registrant:
Ruben Granados
R G [email protected] +1.7142323235
ShooshTime Inc.
21750 allonby circle
yorba linda,CA,US 92887

Domain servers in listed order:
ns1.zkonsult.com ns2.zkonsult.com

The forum own and hosting company are both located in the United States and within the reach of the Attorney General of California, as well as law enforcement of California. So if someone has content there, they can easily enough escalate the removal process and sue, since it is within United States. People can easily enough run a search on IQ69 for the rest.

I have no dog in this fight. I was simply answering JewCat and that if people are actually serious about handling things, they can do it easily enough since owner/host are within reach of U.S. laws and enforcement.

Furthermore, I provide the recommendations for anyone who wants to escalate such an issue based on my own success doing so when the offender is based in the United States.

[Senior_Spank]

Well I am very pro-active with my DMCA requests, so I doubt anyone will have luck attempting to sue anyone. But in the event that one of my customers is not responding to DMCA requests, they can be sent to me personally at [email protected] and I will make sure they are verified and action is taken.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

from what i've been told, shoosh is next to impossible to get your content off...

Originally Posted by Senior_Spank

Well I am very pro-active with my DMCA requests

http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=16...&postcount=131

Originally Posted by Senior_Spank

so I doubt anyone will have luck attempting to sue anyone.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by Senior_Spank View Post
Well I am very pro-active with my DMCA requests

To be fair this was probably close to a couple years ago now, I don't know how he rolls now.

But, there was a point in which I was promoting a certain sologirl site and was holding primo position on Google, the SERPs danced and sitting right beside me was a Shooshtime thread offering pretty much everything the surfer could ask for. My sales got smashed. I contacted my AM about getting a DMCA out, to which I was met with an "Uggggggggggh Shoosh..." and an extended rant about what a joy dealing with them was. That thread cost me a lot of sales.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

It makes me laugh how these guys from IQ69 pop over and try to defend their business model. You'll catch Kaktuz poking around once in a while too. Like come on, you guys are banking of stealing everyone's content and running massive forums whose traffic are driven stolen by stolen material, then come around trying to defend the whole basis of your shady business plan?

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

It makes me laugh how these guys from IQ69 pop over and try to defend their business model. You'll catch Kaktuz poking around once in a while too. Like come on, you guys are banking of stealing everyone's content and running massive forums whose traffic are driven stolen by stolen material, then come around trying to defend the whole basis of your shady business plan?

Really?

As I said, I really do not know the back story on most of the people from IQ69. I received an invite to the forum last year, and have checked it out here and there over that time. I have been more active lately, but I do not know about all that madness.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Really?

As I said, I really do not know the back story on most of the people from IQ69. I received an invite to the forum last year, and have checked it out here and there over that time. I have been more active lately, but I do not know about all that madness.

I got banned ages back for bringing up the topic, spend a bit of time around there and look into the who's who. A lot of big forum webmasters there. Some not so bad, but also a good number of major offenders. Most of the big guys there built their initial traffic with video sharing type sites. hell, iQ69's owner Kaktuz is probably the worst. (look up planet suzy)

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by Senior_Spank

Well I am very pro-active with my DMCA requests, so I doubt anyone will have luck attempting to sue anyone. But in the event that one of my customers is not responding to DMCA requests, they can be sent to me personally at [email protected] and I will make sure they are verified and action is taken.

Maybe you should be proactive in not allowing stolen content on your site in the first place.

You = piece of shit.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

Most of the big guys there built their initial traffic with video sharing type sites. hell, iQ69's owner Kaktuz is probably the worst. (look up planet suzy)

Oh I see.

I did not know that.

[fris]

kaktuz is a long time cheater

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by fris

kaktuz is a long time cheater

and he did very well with his cheating and piracy

[fris]

plus you dont need a court order to remove links, hosts need to stop ignoring dmca's

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by fris

plus you dont need a court order to remove links, hosts need to stop ignoring dmca's

au contraire mon frere

Originally Posted by Senior_Spank

Well I am very pro-active with my DMCA requests

[Senior_Spank]

Originally Posted by AaronM

Maybe you should be proactive in not allowing stolen content on your site in the first place.

You = piece of shit.

I am a host, I own 0 websites of my own.

[fris]

Originally Posted by Senior_Spank

I am a host, I own 0 websites of my own.

by law you need to comply to take down notices, or you can be held responsible, you dont need a court order to have links / videos / pics taken down.

the next step would be contacting your upstream and if you arent complying then they will deal with you until you do.

[alias]

For some reason I foresee this site staying up for a while.

[Senior_Spank]

Originally Posted by fris

by law you need to comply to take down notices, or you can be held responsible, you dont need a court order to have links / videos / pics taken down.

the next step would be contacting your upstream and if you arent complying then they will deal with you until you do.

Never said you need a court order for any content to be removed. We comply with all legal DMCA requests. But, you are living in an ignorant bliss if you think an upstream provider will cut off a major source of revenue over a DMCA request. If I have a valid argument that the content in question is legal, they will merely reply for you to continue up your chain of legal recourse in having someone remove content.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

and he did very well with his cheating and piracy

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

and he did very well with his cheating and piracy

Well I, again, can't speak to all the guys or board owners over there.

I can say I typically enjoy the business atmosphere with the exception of one or two people bi-polar/maniac depressive nut jobs.

But I do agree with you in finding it funny how one in particular tries to pretend his is any sort of professional on this forum, and his persona on the other is the absolute complete opposite.

[fris]

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

I got banned ages back for bringing up the topic, spend a bit of time around there and look into the who's who. A lot of big forum webmasters there. Some not so bad, but also a good number of major offenders. Most of the big guys there built their initial traffic with video sharing type sites. hell, iQ69's owner Kaktuz is probably the worst. (look up planet suzy)

i got banned for bringing it up as well (shoosh), I even sent 25k uniques of traffic to one of his sites (was a requirement to get a plug back) but never got the chance cause my account wasnt available anymore.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by fris

i got banned for bringing it up as well (shoosh), I even sent 25k uniques of traffic to one of his sites (was a requirement to get a plug back) but never got the chance cause my account wasnt available anymore.

You were banned for that?!?

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

You were banned for that?!?

Make one post that says nothing but "Hey, don't you guys have an awful lot of pirated content on your forums?" See how long your account survives. I give you 24 hours...

[BestXXXPorn]

I go right to the hosting company with illegal content complaints. Having illegal content, especially adult content is a threat to their entire operation. The government can and has walked into hosting facilities and blanket pulled the plug. They can't risk that and if you can show any minor proof at all that it belongs to you, they'll yank it down fast...

That is, if you're dealing with a US company :P Good luck with some places over seas!

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

Make one post that says nothing but "Hey, don't you guys have an awful lot of pirated content on your forums?" See how long your account survives. I give you 24 hours...

Oh I see!