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Old 03-11-2010, 08:53 AM   #101
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Experienced sales people of luxury goods know that very wealthy people tend to dress like bums the most. They are so rich, they do not care what others think, and do not need to impress people. These people collect businesses and islands not designer brands.

They also dress like this because THEY CAN. I have been in meetings with lots of attorneys and other powerful people all in fancy suits, nice shoes - belts and the head guy doing the deal comes in jeans, flip flops and a old worn t-shirt. It was VERY clear who THE MAN was in the room.
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Old 03-11-2010, 08:57 AM   #102
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I was looking at BMWs at 2 local dealerships.. this was about 2-3 years ago.
I always dress pretty casual, I look fairly young, and was still driving my old Cavalier that I had for probably 6 years.

The first dealership, nobody even bothered to come talk to me. I looked around and left.

The second dealership, I was looking and at least someone came out to talk to me. But, he went off on an ego trip about how he owned a BMW and that you had to take care of it and I shouldn't buy it if I wasn't going to take care of the car properly.

At the time I could have paid cash for it. The salesman kept trying to get me to tell him how much I made and how much I wanted to spend on the car. I was so annoyed that I left.

Needless to say, I went elsewhere to buy.
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Old 03-11-2010, 08:58 AM   #103
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I walked into a McDonald's last week and the cashier just stared at me like I was trash, so I scooted over to the nice young girl beside her. I ordered a Double Quarter Pounder w/cheese and fucking SUPERSIZED that bitch. Hmmph.
You shouldn't have given them your money, man.

This EXACT same thing happened to me. So without a word I walked out, went down the block and bought a burger at In-n-out.

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And then I went back to McDonalds and rolled by the window and shouted at the cashier who'd ignored me, "Double-double, bitch! Animal style. Don't hate!"
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You shouldn't have given them your money, man.

This EXACT same thing happened to me. So without a word I walked out, went down the block and bought a burger at In-n-out.

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And then I went back to McDonalds and rolled by the window and shouted at the cashier who'd ignored me, "Double-double, bitch! Animal style. Don't hate!"
I wasn't smart enough to think of that.
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You shouldn't have given them your money, man.

This EXACT same thing happened to me. So without a word I walked out, went down the block and bought a burger at In-n-out.

Paid CASH.

And then I went back to McDonalds and rolled by the window and shouted at the cashier who'd ignored me, "Double-double, bitch! Animal style. Don't hate!"
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I walked into a McDonald's last week and the cashier just stared at me like I was trash, so I scooted over to the nice young girl beside her. I ordered a Double Quarter Pounder w/cheese and fucking SUPERSIZED that bitch. Hmmph.
Thats why I always go to the King
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You shouldn't have given them your money, man.

This EXACT same thing happened to me. So without a word I walked out, went down the block and bought a burger at In-n-out.

Paid CASH.

And then I went back to McDonalds and rolled by the window and shouted at the cashier who'd ignored me, "Double-double, bitch! Animal style. Don't hate!"
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call me a hater but im getting kind of bored of your threads that serve no purpose whatsoever to show off how much money you have... it's pretty transparent.
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anyone notice a similarity in these stories? They all end up with the person buying from the same place anyway...

If I owned a dealership I would go out on the floor myself and be the 'judgmental' asshole that would ignore everyone and treat them like they were nobody and then i would send out my bleeding heart salesman to coddle them and to close the deal... seems like people, men especially, are so proud that they will buy even if they can't afford it just to prove a point! Sounds like a good cop bad cop sales ploy from the get go...
i liked the 'buy the dealership' one.. that'll show em!
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i liked the 'buy the dealership' one.. that'll show em!
It's also the least believable.

You can't just buy a dealership.
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I saw a Ferrari thread here and it reminded me of when my partner bought his Ferrari years ago.

We were driving by the Ferrari dealer and we saw a 355F sitting in the showroom. We said lets go look at it. We walk in to see it and the doors were locked. We asked the only sales person working that night to open the door and he brushed us off. Said they were closing soon and ignored us. We were dressed in shorts, summer clothes. Tennis shoes we were in our early 30s.
So we said fuck it and came back the following day.

We asked that sales person for a co-worker, we were dressed the same way. The guy was so cool. He not only showed us the car, but said do you guys want to drive it. So I got in with him, the guy took me up the canyon, traded seats, didn't even ask for a DL, Never asked anything about us. The car sold itself.

We bought it from that guy while the other guy was next to us regretting the sale.

This is to that guy,

Any similar stories? Let's hear it.
Yeah, when I first started making really g ood money back in 2001. I went into the bank with a hat on, shorts, funky t-shirt, i was 25 years old. I wanted to speak to someone about getting a mortgage to buy a house. She had the look like i was wasting her time. She asked, well how much do you make and I told her "200". She looked confused like, wtf 200 dollars ? I said 200K, last year and gave her a copy of my tax returns from the previous year. Well needless to say once she saw that I made a LOT more than her she was kissing my ass, getting me something to drink, and trying to set me up with a checking, savings, cds, etc etc etc...

I was selling cars back in college for a couple months. My first day on the job, this 70 year old black guy and his family wanted to look at a new van. Im thinking i wonder if this guy can get credit and afford the down payment. We go to do the paper work and I mention financing and he says no, I have the cash here with me I will be paying cash.

I learned early never judge people by the way they look or are dressed, you never know.
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You guys buying all these cars cash must be doing well so I'd assume you would do your share of hiring at some point--which brings up an interesting question. When someone shows up for a job interview dressed to the fives do you count that against them? I mean, we are talking about equality and not judging books by its cover so i'd call it a valid question here. ;)

I agree that it's crap to treat people this way, and it's happened to me in the past but I think there is a second perspective here that we aren't seeing is all.
If you are walking into a dealership, you are there to give them business. You aren't telling yourself you should get dressed up because you want to look sharper than the other guys there buying the same car.

Walking in to get a job is totally different. I never judge an interview by the way the guy is dressed. Actually, when I see a guy interviewing with a suit on in this business, it actually shocks me and I tell them they are overdressed. The average guy looking for a job won't come in with shorts. But the average guy will go buy a car in shorts.
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I walked into the dealership wearing a wife beater and my thong underwear. I got 4 salespeople hovering at me within seconds (3 of them wear gay men).
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typically the people who don't have much money are the ones judging. The people who make a lot of money either know what it is like to be judged or are smart enough to know better.
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I walked into the dealership wearing a wife beater and my thong underwear. I got 4 salespeople hovering at me within seconds (3 of them wear gay men).
prolly because of your iguana, hanging out of your ass.
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I walked into a McDonald's last week and the cashier just stared at me like I was trash, so I scooted over to the nice young girl beside her. I ordered a Double Quarter Pounder w/cheese and fucking SUPERSIZED that bitch. Hmmph.
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Departure Arrival Flight Duration Cabin
15:45Miami 06:40+1Frankfurt LH463
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09:45Frankfurt 13:35Miami LH462
9h50 First (F)
Total Price
Fare
(per person) Taxes, fees and charges
(per person) Passengers Total
16599.00 + 377.80 x 1 Adult = USD 16976.80
Per person
4 tickets total USD 67,902.20

Went to Germany recently, wanted these 4 tickets (First Class all the Way).
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prolly because of your iguana, hanging out of your ass.
nah the iguana was at the vet. He had diarrea at the time
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16599.00 + 377.80 x 1 Adult = USD 16976.80
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4 tickets total USD 67,902.20

Went to Germany recently, wanted these 4 tickets (First Class all the Way).
Girl gives me a really hard time while trying to buy them, until I set down the Black card, amazing how sweet they got then....

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Fare
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16599.00 + 377.80 x 1 Adult = USD 16976.80
Per person
4 tickets total USD 67,902.20

Went to Germany recently, wanted these 4 tickets (First Class all the Way).
Girl gives me a really hard time while trying to buy them, until I set down the Black card, amazing how sweet they got then....

can't you rent a private plane for that price? and if you pay that, are the stewardesses included? i think i would have to have Bill Gates' money before i even remotely think about spending that much on flight.
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16599.00 + 377.80 x 1 Adult = USD 16976.80
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4 tickets total USD 67,902.20

Went to Germany recently, wanted these 4 tickets (First Class all the Way).
Girl gives me a really hard time while trying to buy them, until I set down the Black card, amazing how sweet they got then....
Obviously you are very rich, so I am sure you know this, but you can charter a jet to Europe for $50k.
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Obviously you are very rich, so I am sure you know this, but you can charter a jet to Europe for $50k.
Point me to it, last time I did this it was 103K as the stand by time kills you as they cannot loan it out while they wait to take you back. And most of the time they want to re-fuel in Greenland on the way... faster to go in Lufthansa.
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16599.00 + 377.80 x 1 Adult = USD 16976.80
Per person
4 tickets total USD 67,902.20

Went to Germany recently, wanted these 4 tickets (First Class all the Way).
Girl gives me a really hard time while trying to buy them, until I set down the Black card, amazing how sweet they got then....
no offense man 17k on tickets for a 9hr flight seems like a waste of money to me..

most i've ever paid was 5k total and it was from panama>jersey>london>dubai>new jersey>panama..

and it was all business class, but first class from the londo>dubai>london route...

i cant consciously spend more than 5k on a ticket.. i usually dont mind paying about 300-500 max per hour of flight for first class

so doing your math, a 10hr flight should be 5k max..
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Point me to it, last time I did this it was 103K as the stand by time kills you as they cannot loan it out while they wait to take you back. And most of the time they want to re-fuel in Greenland on the way... faster to go in Lufthansa.
There are a ton of empties on the ground, you can set it up through a ton of companies.

A friend of mine works at a company with 6 jets for execs - they charter them when they are idle and they get $50k for a Scottsdale - Frankfurt run.
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Total Price
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16599.00 + 377.80 x 1 Adult = USD 16976.80
Per person
4 tickets total USD 67,902.20

Went to Germany recently, wanted these 4 tickets (First Class all the Way).
Girl gives me a really hard time while trying to buy them, until I set down the Black card, amazing how sweet they got then....
Also this story would be way better if the end is that you buy the whole airline.
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Also this story would be way better if the end is that you buy the whole airline.
LOL, Who the hell wants to own an airline now a days? they have male flight attendants now ;-)

And thanks I will check out the sitting idle planes, any names of the charter companies you are talking about?
I checked a few and they all quoted in the 100K range.

Thx ...
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LOL, Who the hell wants to own an airline now a days? they have male flight attendants now ;-)

And thanks I will check out the sitting idle planes, any names of the charter companies you are talking about?
I checked a few and they all quoted in the 100K range.

Thx ...
The company I'm talking about rents through a company called Ellejet, I believe, and through a local company that I don't know the name of and am too lazy to find out, but it's next door to an awesome Italian restaurant at the Scottsdale airport.

I think depends on where you are tho - in Miami you are gonna have a shitload of stuff on the ground, because it's more international.
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Point me to it, last time I did this it was 103K as the stand by time kills you as they cannot loan it out while they wait to take you back. And most of the time they want to re-fuel in Greenland on the way... faster to go in Lufthansa.
They charge you up the ass for the plane sitting. My friend is a Pilot for a Jet Company, he tells me some crazy stories. He also said our Company should buy one and give it to them to charter it out, but sounds too much of a liability to me.
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FUCK PEOPLE.. Just cause someone is 24 and BLACK and flying first class doesnt mean he sells drugs.. fuck you all bitches.. now im pissed off thinking about how many times ive been asked are you in the right line? after i paid thousands for the ticket..
yeah, they are most likely a rapper or basketball player.
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3 reasons; 1) the douche factor, 2) the fat factor. 3) the dweeb factor

In other words Drinkinghard hangs around a lot of fattys, douches, and dweebs.
Haha yep I guess you must be right! But that's ok with me
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Old 03-11-2010, 12:54 PM   #135
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We all judge others based on the way they dress, the way they act, the way they look, the way they present ourselves. If we pretend that we don't, we are simply lying to ourselves.

You can do your best to treat people the same. But everyone judges.
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i had a confusing encounter years ago somewhat related. I got the "deliveries go in the back" line but completely missed the correlation. I was buying a jetski and i was carrying a box i just bought. When i walked in the guy said "deliveries go out back" , i said "what" , he repeats himself , i say " what deliveries ? " , he says " they all go in back" , i say " what do ? " he says "deliveries" i am totally confused at this point.. so i go out back and ask "Can i look at your jetski's ? " he says " you gotta go up to the front the back is for deliveries only" , it was about then i caught on.


oh and years ago in l.a. i bumped a nun and said " sorry sister" and she said "fuck you asshole" so i kinda did it in reverse.
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Old 03-11-2010, 01:03 PM   #137
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If you are walking into a dealership, you are there to give them business. You aren't telling yourself you should get dressed up because you want to look sharper than the other guys there buying the same car.

Walking in to get a job is totally different. I never judge an interview by the way the guy is dressed. Actually, when I see a guy interviewing with a suit on in this business, it actually shocks me and I tell them they are overdressed. The average guy looking for a job won't come in with shorts. But the average guy will go buy a car in shorts.
I agree with you that those are two different circumstances and one should not have to dress up to buy something, that just seems silly, but my point was that people indeed DO judge people based on appearances. We all dress up for interviews BECAUSE of this universal truth--whether it be a suit or not is merely a judgment call.
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Old 03-11-2010, 01:09 PM   #138
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no offense man 17k on tickets for a 9hr flight seems like a waste of money to me..

most i've ever paid was 5k total and it was from panama>jersey>london>dubai>new jersey>panama..

and it was all business class, but first class from the londo>dubai>london route...

i cant consciously spend more than 5k on a ticket.. i usually dont mind paying about 300-500 max per hour of flight for first class

so doing your math, a 10hr flight should be 5k max..
gullible much?
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Yes i do have such story.

As some people here know Nylos is a close friend of mine and one day he wanted to buy a Jaguar so we went to the Jaguar dealer looking all casual to look at some models and we were in BUYERS MINDSET. We were all over one nice model and the salesperson didn't even come up to as until we started asking him questions about the car. He answered a few questions and than he said "yeah, everybody gotta have something to dream about".
Nylos and i looked at each other like WTF and we headed outside jumped in Nylos's Hummer and took off driving by the showroom window, the look of the salesperson's face was priceless. We ended up buying a Jaguar from another dealer.

I was a salesperson myself for many many years and i learned that judging people buy their looks is just plain stupid.. body language tells you about everything you need to know.
What is Nylos?
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I agree with you that those are two different circumstances and one should not have to dress up to buy something, that just seems silly, but my point was that people indeed DO judge people based on appearances. We all dress up for interviews BECAUSE of this universal truth--whether it be a suit or not is merely a judgment call.
I agree with you about the Interviews.
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You people act like you're proud to dress like complete tools when you have money.


That's the first thing I will do when I make my first 100k cheque, wear cheap jeans, white runners, cheap t-shirt, get fat, buy an expensive watch.
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I walked into a McDonald's last week and the cashier just stared at me like I was trash, so I scooted over to the nice young girl beside her. I ordered a Double Quarter Pounder w/cheese and fucking SUPERSIZED that bitch. Hmmph.
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Goto a webmaster show and it's:


Ill fitting suits
Tap out shirts
Affliction
Ed Hardy(2004 called and wants their shirts back)
White runners with $10 wal-mart jeans


Why would I expect this to be any different...
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Oh, and if you didn't judge people by the way they were dressed, you wouldn't know when to avoid homeless people, gang bangers, when to trust cops, firefighters, etc.

If you think you're someone being sly by wearing shitty clothes to a nice car dealership, you're just being a FUCKING RETARD by not admitting that clothing is one of the most obvious signs of class.
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That's the first thing I will do when I make my first 100k cheque, wear cheap jeans, white runners, cheap t-shirt, get fat, buy an expensive watch.
I don't think all these guys went into dealers wearing expensive watches.
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I don't think all these guys went into dealers wearing expensive watches.

I'm also not going to think I'm being clever or putting one-up on someone because they declined me good service going in somewhere dressed under par for the course.


Oh look, I dressed up like a vagrant and didn't get the nicest table at the restaurant, next week I'll go back in a suit and tip the next waiter much better just to show the first one what a fool he was!

^ Yeah, that's not clever guys.
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Oh, and if you didn't judge people by the way they were dressed, you wouldn't know when to avoid homeless people, gang bangers, when to trust cops, firefighters, etc.

If you think you're someone being sly by wearing shitty clothes to a nice car dealership, you're just being a FUCKING RETARD by not admitting that clothing is one of the most obvious signs of class.
superfical much ?

I have more "Class" than 1/2 the douchebags that dress like they make more than me when in actualtly all they are trying to do is look rich, and they make a fraction of what i do, and they spend all of their money on their clothes, watches, shoes, and cars... trying to be something they are not, and they still don't have any class. There is a time and place to dress up, and then there is the rest of the time. I am fine with jeans and polo shirt, tennis shoes, unless i am going to a business related function, nice dinner, or formal event, then the nice clothes comes out and I take the hat off.

I laugh at the douche bags who dress nice 24/7 when I know they don't have a pot to piss in. I would rather be rich, not try to look rich.

You can't buy class.
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oh and years ago in l.a. i bumped a nun and said " sorry sister" and she said "fuck you asshole" so i kinda did it in reverse.
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superfical much ?

I have more "Class" than 1/2 the douchebags that dress like they make more than me when in actualtly all they are trying to do is look rich, and they make a fraction of what i do, and they spend all of their money on their clothes, watches, shoes, and cars... trying to be something they are not, and they still don't have any class. There is a time and place to dress up, and then there is the rest of the time. I am fine with jeans and polo shirt, tennis shoes, unless i am going to a business related function, nice dinner, or formal event, then the nice clothes comes out and I take the hat off.

I laugh at the douche bags who dress nice 24/7 when I know they don't have a pot to piss in. I would rather be rich, not try to look rich.

You can't buy class.
Very well said.
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