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VGeorgie 03-12-2010 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl (Post 16942456)
Flurry of activity for anyone else today, after a catastrophic week?

Yes, and I sort of expected it because it's a Friday, a payday.

The next few weeks will be very much Goldfish's roller coaster because of Spring Break. Typically a spotty time because school's out for a week.

signupdamnit 03-12-2010 08:48 PM

It's been a little better the last few days for me. The mysterious scrub machine always makes me nervous though...

BIGTYMER 03-12-2010 11:06 PM

Sales are back to normal today. So strange.

Shoplifter 03-12-2010 11:25 PM

Nothing special happening here.

bdld 03-13-2010 12:03 AM

things did get better as of late, weren't squeezing the water hose as tight.

BVF 03-13-2010 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16939257)
I forward all emails directly to my phone now. I just started that and it has caused me to have rapid heart beats, high blood pressure, and very moody.

What would you classify this as?...

You are receiving this email to let you know that xxx xxxxx attempted to
subscribe to account 935699-0000 and was declined due to We are unable to process
your transaction at this time. Please try again at a later time..

Customer Name: xxx xxxxx
E-mail address: [email protected]

************************************************** ********
Billing services provided by CCBILL,LLC [email protected]

************************************************** ********

Something is wrong!!!

Turn those emails OFF!!!!...I did it years ago..

Believe me, you don't even miss the emails and you're spared the grief....The ONLY stat that I really care about is the weekly check amount.

Argos88 03-13-2010 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by VGeorgie (Post 16939582)

Maybe CCBill has turned up a scrub setting, though I'm not getting that in the denial emails I review. I DO believe they are processing the same or even fewer sites than two years ago. That leaves two things:

1. Consumers aren't spending because they don't have the money. That's MY situation, so why wouldn't it be for other people too? I'm eating in tonight because I can't afford McDonald's.

2. The banks are tightening up. This worry keeps me awake at night. Wife and I tried to get a few thousand additional credit line so we could redo a bathroom. Got turned down, despite never being late on a payment, and having the card for some 20 years. Bank rep apologized, and said it was the result of the current economy. Banks are being more careful.


Only those two things? Man, Are you really not aware of the current situation of the adult business.

Just a hint: WHO Will buy something they can get for free?


:2 cents:

crackheadcurly 03-13-2010 03:56 PM

and someone say i have so much time on my hands

spooky181 03-13-2010 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 16944095)
Only those two things? Man, Are you really not aware of the current situation of the adult business.

Just a hint: WHO Will buy something they can get for free?


:2 cents:

Well then, why do my sites and the other sites I promote that use other processors like Verotel still convert as good as ever??

andrej_NDC 03-13-2010 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 16944095)
Only those two things? Man, Are you really not aware of the current situation of the adult business.

Just a hint: WHO Will buy something they can get for free?


:2 cents:

Yes, its mainly the 2 things he mentioned. Tubes don't have much to do with bank denials and surfers spending less on porn. But keep blaming them for your bad sales, if that helps you.

VGeorgie 03-13-2010 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 16944167)
Yes, its mainly the 2 things he mentioned. Tubes don't have much to do with bank denials and surfers spending less on porn. But keep blaming them for your bad sales, if that helps you.

Thanks, you said it for me. I don't think the tubes have much to do with the CCBill "Roller Coaster."

VGeorgie 03-13-2010 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spooky181 (Post 16944149)
Well then, why do my sites and the other sites I promote that use other processors like Verotel still convert as good as ever??

Well I can't answer that and I wish I knew the answer because if I did I'd jump over to Verotel, pay $750 for yet another VISA approval crock, and feel good about the investment.

Since I monitor all the declines, I'm not seeing a lot due to scrub or bank refusal. So, at least for me, if my sales are down right now, it's A) the economy, B) me. I don't see how switching processors is going to help in this case.

I'll be keeping an eye out for strange CCBill behavior, but unless they are suppressing the scrub emails, then people just aren't hitting the Buy Now button.

If CCBill IS suppressing scrub emails, then that's clearly fraudulent. I'm NOT calling fraud, just pointing out that would be a serious breach of ethics, and likely actionable legally, up to and including some nasty class action lawsuits. For this reason, I doubt they are doing it.

There's no reason for them to take that massive amount of business risk, so about the only thing remaining is 10 people wanted to sign up to my site yesterday and did, and so far only two people wanted to today. Why the huge difference?? Don't have a clue.

BTW, the site in your sig is getting flagged by Firefox as a "Reported Attack Site." Google has it on its Shit List, as well. Safe browsing tool shows the site as not currently suspicious, but says "Of the 844 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 8 page(s) resulted in malicious software". The Shit List warning is still on the Google page listings, and Firefox is still blocking access.

mmcfadden 03-14-2010 08:24 PM

I have a big problem with CCBILL right now...

My problem will be on this board if not fixed ASAP...

Mark, Paul, whoever... Please fix my problem!!!

Argos88 03-15-2010 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 16944167)
Yes, its mainly the 2 things he mentioned. Tubes don't have much to do with bank denials and surfers spending less on porn. But keep blaming them for your bad sales, if that helps you.

1) I never blamed the tubes, in fact, I don't think they have any impact in sales at all.

2) My sales are not bad. Maybe yours are. In fact, I'm sure yours are, ANDREJ. So, keep that bad attitude over the boards, if that helps at all.

Beerbar 03-15-2010 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Beerbar (Post 16936809)
I don't think people whining nor for me is this a fuck ccbill issue. I like ccbill just as much as you do for all the same reasons that you have listed and is the reason why I'm trying to figure it out rather then just jumping ship. But your right I do have other processors, and as of today I'll will make a EU company my primary and see how that goes.

Made the move last week and yep sales went back to pretty much normal. Came back to ccbill as primary yesterday and my form submissions were 1.19% for 1 sale. I'm going to try some form changes and see if that helps but this will be my last attempt if nothing changes I'll be forced to move to the other processor.

spooky181 03-15-2010 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Beerbar (Post 16946892)
Made the move last week and yep sales went back to pretty much normal. Came back to ccbill as primary yesterday and my form submissions were 1.19% for 1 sale. I'm going to try some form changes and see if that helps but this will be my last attempt if nothing changes I'll be forced to move to the other processor.

I know when I switched from CCbill to Verotel a few years back the sales jumped immediately and have stayed consistant ever since with no chargeback issues. I think if CCbill keep scrubbing like this many more will be leaving for greener pastures...

NBBCash Matze 03-15-2010 04:04 AM

last two weeks were good, weekend was great, no chargebacks, everything fine at the moment. Hope your problems get fixed soon mmcfadden, the ccbill support is fast in most cases.

sojproductions 03-15-2010 06:30 AM

I noticed something else the other day... we get on average 1-2 telephone sales per week - they are basically non-existent, we had a poor credit card sales day on friday but 4 telephone sales in 1 day - that is unheard of in our entire history... what does that say?? my theory is people were struggling to signup and take the telephone route to pay as a last resort as they get fed up - anyone else ever experienced this?

Serial Pervert 03-15-2010 06:31 AM

good luck, bro.

mmcfadden 03-15-2010 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sojproductions (Post 16947144)
I noticed something else the other day... we get on average 1-2 telephone sales per week - they are basically non-existent, we had a poor credit card sales day on friday but 4 telephone sales in 1 day - that is unheard of in our entire history... what does that say?? my theory is people were struggling to signup and take the telephone route to pay as a last resort as they get fed up - anyone else ever experienced this?

yes to the telephone

smoothballs 03-15-2010 11:52 AM

I'v had a thought that perhaps is not helping matters too..its a long shot and not saying this is the main course for lack of signups...

Recently banks have upped their security checks when you make a purchase online, and will use myself as a example, say I order a domino pizza onlne, after submitting the order I will get a page come up with my bank logo (the visa verified thing which has been about a while now) and enter my password that I used to login to my online banking to complete the transaction, thing is I have never signed up to a ccbill site so don't know if a surfer gets this with ccbill or does it depend on the surfers bank/cc card and will always get that verify page up regardless of what or where hes buying? so wondering if thats the case, you are getting the click to form show up in your stats but no signup...

The other thing my bank does now, if I made a few online transaction in a short period, I get a phone call asking if I can verify that it was me that made those transactions, and they rattle off the list of last 5 transation names that appear on my statements...just wondering what would happened if I said no (when it was me) and ask to be rufunded for it? hence giving someone a chargeback on that transaction?

not saying this is the problem but add it to how things are going its not boding well...

Tiffany Preston 03-15-2010 01:17 PM

Same Here!!
Never seen that in the last 3 years?!

andrej_NDC 03-15-2010 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 16946796)
1) I never blamed the tubes, in fact, I don't think they have any impact in sales at all.

2) My sales are not bad. Maybe yours are. In fact, I'm sure yours are, ANDREJ. So, keep that bad attitude over the boards, if that helps at all.

Why are you jumping on me? My sales are good and I never blamed bad sales on tubes, so whats your problem with me?

pornmasta 04-28-2010 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 16936204)
Sales were normal... when they changed to WMS, sales almost stopped.. a few days ago, they changed back to normal CCBILL and sales started to come in again (in the sponsors im promoting).


:2 cents:

Awful march and awful april.
Very sweet January with another sponsor.
I'm nearly sure there is something wrong somewhere.

MrDeiz 04-28-2010 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 17085300)
:2 cents:

Awful march and awful april.
Very sweet January with another sponsor.
I'm nearly sure there is something wrong somewhere.

ccbill needs money more than you :2 cents:
everything is fine for them as they always say

mmcfadden 04-28-2010 10:16 PM

PaulK has all the answers. He can make sure all your sales stay where they are at. Give him a call or icq and know that you will now be in good hands

pornmasta 04-28-2010 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 17085326)
PaulK has all the answers. He can make sure all your sales stay where they are at. Give him a call or icq and know that you will now be in good hands

amen ...

i'll try to vote with my hits

Sneakysites 04-28-2010 11:20 PM

Sales are low all around.

pornmasta 04-29-2010 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sneakysites (Post 17085428)
Sales are low all around.

yes but no...

It's sometimes more than decent with other sponsors (i have two good example that i won(won't post here), but with ccbill i have -30% since March or even January.

pornmasta 04-29-2010 05:34 AM

this is what i see:
The previous years and usually i had nearly the same amount of sales as now.
There was just a tiny difference:
From time to time instead of having a 1 or 2 new sales per day, i had 4 to 7 sales per day, without a correlated traffic (it was pretty frequent).
I suppose here that some transactions were checked and added to the stats.
The problem is that it don't happens anymore.
So what could happend ?
I bet that these transactions are now .... declined ?

CHMOD 04-29-2010 06:20 AM

March has been very slow for me.

+

I get more and more "declined transaction" emails from CCBill.


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