Dirty D's Impending Legal Doom.... - GoFuckYourself.com

TheAmericanCannibal · 03-03-2010, 12:40 PM

May be shitty for him and his business, but http://www.2257safe.com is getting record amounts of signups since last week.

Thanks to everyone who has come on board. It's good to see there are still some people with ethics, morals, and the foresight to protect their businesses.

If you should have any questions on how our service can help you, please email me at the email listed below I'd be happy to answer any questions.

Any legal questions can be answered by my partner, Attorney Michael Fattarosi
[email protected]

VikingMan · 03-03-2010, 12:44 PM

congrats to teh winners

stickyfingerz · 03-03-2010, 12:47 PM

Isn't it fun to promote your biz off of someone elses possible hardship?

TidalWave · 03-03-2010, 12:48 PM

if Dirty D was using 2257safe then all this would have been such a smaller impact... the feds would have contacted 2257safe for the ID's, they would be dealing directly with lawyers from day 1, instead they raped Dirty D's offices, assets, etc.

For the small amount that 2257safe charges, everyone should be signing up to protect themselves... its worth it to ensure your business and your personal safety.

Quagmire · 03-03-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Isn't it fun to promote your biz off of someone elses possible hardship?

I guess that means he isn't one of the people with ethics and morals that he refers to in his post.

FreeHugeMovies · 03-03-2010, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Isn't it fun to promote your biz off of someone elses possible hardship?

Tell me about it.

bbwdollars · 03-03-2010, 01:03 PM

would you expect any more out of this guy?

dig420 · 03-03-2010, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Isn't it fun to promote your biz off of someone elses possible hardship?

yeah, that's kinda creepy. Myself, I just burn everything to a portable HD and keep it at my lawyers, for zero dollars/mth.

imabro · 03-03-2010, 01:05 PM

kb already knows outcome of trial

TheAmericanCannibal · 03-03-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TidalWave

if Dirty D was using 2257safe then all this would have been such a smaller impact... the feds would have contacted 2257safe for the ID's, they would be dealing directly with lawyers from day 1, instead they raped Dirty D's offices, assets, etc.

For the small amount that 2257safe charges, everyone should be signing up to protect themselves... its worth it to ensure your business and your personal safety.

I thank you and appreciate your post!

WarChild · 03-03-2010, 01:32 PM

Glad to see you intend to continue being a complete idiot. It's important to be consistent.

TheAmericanCannibal · 03-03-2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by imabro

kb already knows outcome of trial

Outcome has no relevance here.
His shit was seized.
All of his records, computers, cash and who knows what else?

It would never have gone down like that with our service.

Apathy kills.
At 2257safe.com
Our best customer is an educated webmaster.

Mr. Romance · 03-03-2010, 01:34 PM

Hang in there Dirty D! Nice seeing you in Barcelona

Mr. Romance

TheAmericanCannibal · 03-03-2010, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Glad to see you intend to continue being a complete idiot. It's important to be consistent.

Thank you, but you aren't correct here.

"Consistency is contrary to nature, contrary to life. The only completely consistent people are dead".
Aldous Huxley

nico-t · 03-03-2010, 01:36 PM

kb being a retard - business like always

nation-x · 03-03-2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TidalWave

if Dirty D was using 2257safe then all this would have been such a smaller impact... the feds would have contacted 2257safe for the ID's

Since when were the feds involved? I read that it was the local or county sheriff's office.

Kingfish · 03-03-2010, 01:39 PM

It wouldn?t have made a difference it was the local cops and state cops in Florida enforcing state laws not the feds. The process would have been exactly the same if he had 2257safe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TidalWave

if Dirty D was using 2257safe then all this would have been such a smaller impact... the feds would have contacted 2257safe for the ID's, they would be dealing directly with lawyers from day 1, instead they raped Dirty D's offices, assets, etc.

For the small amount that 2257safe charges, everyone should be signing up to protect themselves... its worth it to ensure your business and your personal safety.

alias · 03-03-2010, 01:40 PM

Nice execution KB.

TheAmericanCannibal · 03-03-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingfish

It wouldn?t have made a difference it was the local cops and state cops in Florida enforcing state laws not the feds. The process would have been exactly the same if he had 2257safe.

Well seeing that the girl obviously blew the whistle and knows the location of the studio and or office- u are probably correct here.

However, if his address for his custodian of records was located in our law office in Woodland Hills, CA I do think there would have been a different outcome.

Also you better believe that the FEDS are involved here.
You'd be ignorant if you did not.

LeRoy · 03-03-2010, 01:45 PM

Good exposure for you and your co. Glad to see what works in this industry.

<<--oh yah 5k woot woot

alias · 03-03-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

kb being a retard - business like always

Yeah but this time he actually put some effort in, I mean obviously the 2257 drops in the Dirty D threads were not enough.

It was even said in that main thread "how long before DirtyD puts a marketing spin on this?"

not before kb, and this time he called in his friends to prop him. Dude, u gotta give it to this guy.. . he was scam before scam was cool.

e.g: in the playwith prais "im leaving" thread, dudes asking to buy the sextape of her and pauly shore.. .

I think it was well done this time, all prior bs aside.

DWB · 03-03-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TidalWave

if Dirty D was using 2257safe then all this would have been such a smaller impact... the feds would have contacted 2257safe for the ID's, they would be dealing directly with lawyers from day 1, instead they raped Dirty D's offices, assets, etc.

This isn't a knock on 2257 safe, as I think it's a great product, but don't think for a second that if the feds are looking at you, that they are not coming to your house. They will find a reason.

alias · 03-03-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LeRoy

<<--oh yah 5k woot woot

full speed ahead

TheAmericanCannibal · 03-03-2010, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

This isn't a knock on 2257 safe, as I think it's a great product, but don't think for a second that if the feds are looking at you, that they are not coming to your house. They will find a reason.

Hey I believe that as well.
If they want anyone bad enough, they know where to find you.

Hell a PI found me yesterday trying to "buy" a Rozlyn Papa sex tape that was shopped to me at LiveJasmin.com

Surprising cause I am pretty hidden.
However anyone with MERLIN or Intelius can find you most of the time just as easy as the FEDS

TheAmericanCannibal · 03-03-2010, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by alias

Yeah but this time he actually put some effort in, I mean obviously the 2257 drops in the Dirty D threads were not enough.

It was even said in that main thread "how long before DirtyD puts a marketing spin on this?"

not before kb, and this time he called in his friends to prop him. Dude, u gotta give it to this guy.. . he was scam before scam was cool.

e.g: in the playwith prais "im leaving" thread, dudes asking to buy the sextape of her and pauly shore.. .

I think it was well done this time, all prior bs aside.

Hey I will bet you $10K that the sex tape of her and Pauly exists.
U willing to bet me Playboy?

alias · 03-03-2010, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal

Hey I will bet you $10K that the sex tape of her and Pauly exists.
U willing to bet me Playboy?

Just get it, no-one says it doesn't exist. Read what I said, people here know what's up, like I fucking said well done.

TheAmericanCannibal · 03-03-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by alias

Just get it, no-one says it doesn't exist. Read what I said, people here know what's up, like I fucking said well done.

I hope she is reading this thread I have serious buyers

seeric · 03-03-2010, 02:14 PM

kb still has it. people still fall right into it every time.

congrats bizzle. dinner on me next time.

seeric · 03-03-2010, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal

Hey I will bet you $10K that the sex tape of her and Pauly exists.
U willing to bet me Playboy?

TheAmericanCannibal · 03-03-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by seeric

kb still has it. people still fall right into it every time.

congrats bizzle. dinner on me next time.

Roy's?

:-))

alias · 03-03-2010, 02:30 PM

Kinda thought Pauly was gay, bi I guess.

fuzebox · 03-03-2010, 02:44 PM

Just in case there were still people who didn't realize what a douchebag KB is, he comes in and removes all doubt.

american pervert · 03-03-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal

Roy's?

:-))

topanga or downtown?

J. Falcon · 03-03-2010, 02:49 PM

Business is business.

DAMNMAN · 03-03-2010, 02:49 PM

Ok, here's my unsolicited 2 cents.

This was never a 2257 issue as they (The cops, FEDs or Local. don't care what kind of cops they is!!!) already knew the girl was under age. They came looking for her tape and any other proof of underage filming of her and other minors. 2257 safe or any other off site 2257 service wouldn't have helped or stopped anything. Period.

I also asked the question years ago to Larry Walters at a panel at Inetrnext if keeping 2257 documentation at a lawyers was the best way to handle this 2257 record keeping. He stated to the crowd of webmasters that was there (Not a direct quote) that he wasn't sure as the law reads as they must be kept at the primary place of business. At the time he didn't recommend keeping 2257 docs at a lawyers office. I don't know if this has changed.

Just sayin'.

JD · 03-03-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Just in case there were still people who didn't realize what a douchebag KB is, he comes in and removes all doubt.

this.

Press Release Pro · 03-03-2010, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMNMAN

Ok, here's my unsolicited 2 cents.

This was never a 2257 issue as they (The cops, FEDs or Local. don't care what kind of cops they is!!!) already knew the girl was under age. They came looking for her tape and any other proof of underage filming of her and other minors. 2257 safe or any other off site 2257 service wouldn't have helped or stopped anything. Period.

I also asked the question years ago to Larry Walters at a panel at Inetrnext if keeping 2257 documentation at a lawyers was the best way to handle this 2257 record keeping. He stated to the crowd of webmasters that was there (Not a direct quote) that he wasn't sure as the law reads as they must be kept at the primary place of business. At the time he didn't recommend keeping 2257 docs at a lawyers office. I don't know if this has changed.

Just sayin'.

BINGO!!!!!

Why did his lawyer partner stop posting, something about liability maybe ? Insurance ?
To the Cannibal= Since you guarantee no problems like that what kind of legal insurance is included ? Is your company insured for malpractice ? Who will handle legal representation of clients that get into troubles ?

SpeakEasy · 03-03-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal

Outcome has no relevance here.
His shit was seized.
All of his records, computers, cash and who knows what else?

It would never have gone down like that with our service.

Apathy kills.
At 2257safe.com
Our best customer is an educated webmaster.

That is not necessarily true. If the feds want to they would just sieze the records from you and also if and when they want to they can sieze the data from his servers at anytime your service can not actually stop the feds in any way shape oor form. It is absolutely low down, low class business for you to be trying to pray of this DietyD guys problems.

TheAmericanCannibal · 03-03-2010, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeakEasy

That is not necessarily true. If the feds want to they would just sieze the records from you and also if and when they want to they can sieze the data from his servers at anytime your service can not actually stop the feds in any way shape oor form. It is absolutely low down, low class business for you to be trying to pray of this DietyD guys problems.

It would be pretty damn hard for them to access the information without us-
Also our NOC is locked down and PCI-DSS Compliant
There still would be some lead time to assist the customer on what he should do once the information is handed over.

beemk · 03-03-2010, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Isn't it fun to promote your biz off of someone elses possible hardship?

do you really expect any less from a bottom feeder like kb?

TheAmericanCannibal · 03-03-2010, 03:41 PM

Also I must say this so you all know where I am coming from.
Dirty D is innocent until proven gulity-

This has nothing to do with him and everything to do with webmasters who are apathetic and don't cover their asses.

If you don't want to use my services, I wish you all the best.
i am not here trying to force anything down your throats.

If your attorneys have advised you otherwise, listen to your attorneys.
However I must say this...most attorney's in this industry are still trying to fight 2257 with the FSC, while they will never overturn their decision, most of these so called "industry attorneys" are working hard lining their pockets with your hard earned money and telling you the sky isn't falling. When in actuality, most of them know what they are doing is futile.

You will all see soon, why I am right, and most of you are wrong

Cyber Fucker · 03-03-2010, 03:56 PM

bwahahaha... what a fucking funny thread

DAMNMAN · 03-03-2010, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Press Release Pro

BINGO!!!!!

Why did his lawyer partner stop posting, something about liability maybe ? Insurance ?
To the Cannibal= Since you guarantee no problems like that what kind of legal insurance is included ? Is your company insured for malpractice ? Who will handle legal representation of clients that get into troubles ?

I like BINGO, does that make me old? :-)

Overload · 03-03-2010, 04:06 PM

once upon a time ... there was a cute puffy nipples booby dirty blond who faked her ID and acted in porn at the age of 16 ... it was in the late 80s ... do YOU remember her name? hmmm???

ok, one can trip over it ... but lets face it, there ARE two sides of the medal ... if the model acts and looks as if legal AND has made up ID card or history ... i better shut up b4 ya get it wrong ... if the producer knows: BANG, BANG! if not ... iuno ...

DAMNMAN · 03-03-2010, 04:10 PM

2257SAFE guy.

The insurance question posted above is a good one. I mean if the FEDs show up at your door to check your clients 2257 records and you aren't there between 9 - 5 (working hours) 'cause you went to lunch or you tell them to get a warrant, when they don't need one according to the 2257 laws.

Are your clients insured and are their legal bills paid for so they don't do 5 years in prison for non compliance?

Just wondering.

BAKO · 03-03-2010, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal

Outcome has no relevance here.
His shit was seized.
All of his records, computers, cash and who knows what else?

It would never have gone down like that with our service.

Apathy kills.
At 2257safe.com
Our best customer is an educated webmaster.

Supz · 03-03-2010, 04:12 PM

You are a jerkoff. I would start the same business just to not use yours. I dont give two fucks about Dirty D. You are just a jerkoff.

L-Pink · 03-03-2010, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal

Outcome has no relevance here.
His shit was seized.
All of his records, computers, cash and who knows what else?

It would never have gone down like that with our servic

Actually wouldn't it have gone down exactly the same except for a copy of 2257 docs?

.

xenigo · 03-03-2010, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TidalWave

if Dirty D was using 2257safe then all this would have been such a smaller impact... the feds would have contacted 2257safe for the ID's, they would be dealing directly with lawyers from day 1, instead they raped Dirty D's offices, assets, etc.

For the small amount that 2257safe charges, everyone should be signing up to protect themselves... its worth it to ensure your business and your personal safety.

I think you don't understand the services KB is providing. 2257Safe doesn't protect you against crimes you commit, it protects you from the hassle of complying with the rigid 2257 requirements that require you maintain certain office hours and cross your T's and dot your I's with cross-reference databases and the like.

While 2257Safe may protect you against a simple records keeping violation, this isn't a case of a simple records keeping violation. It's a case of willful violation of the law... not a situation where there was some inconvenience and he wasn't in the office on the day they came to check out his records.

2257Safe wouldn't have protected him against anything in this circumstance.

imabro · 03-03-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Actually wouldn't it have gone down exactly the same except for a copy of 2257 docs?

.

like said above bingo

03-03-2010, 12:40 PM	#1
TheAmericanCannibal Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,086	Dirty D's Impending Legal Doom.... May be shitty for him and his business, but http://www.2257safe.com is getting record amounts of signups since last week. Thanks to everyone who has come on board. It's good to see there are still some people with ethics, morals, and the foresight to protect their businesses. If you should have any questions on how our service can help you, please email me at the email listed below I'd be happy to answer any questions. Any legal questions can be answered by my partner, Attorney Michael Fattarosi [email protected]

03-03-2010, 12:48 PM	#4
TidalWave Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,706	if Dirty D was using 2257safe then all this would have been such a smaller impact... the feds would have contacted 2257safe for the ID's, they would be dealing directly with lawyers from day 1, instead they raped Dirty D's offices, assets, etc. For the small amount that 2257safe charges, everyone should be signing up to protect themselves... its worth it to ensure your business and your personal safety. __________________ www.SwiftNode.com

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VikingMan Exploiting human weakness Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: next to a salmon stream Posts: 6,725	congrats to teh winners

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stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,984	Isn't it fun to promote your biz off of someone elses possible hardship?

03-03-2010, 01:05 PM	#9
imabro Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 871	kb already knows outcome of trial

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nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	kb being a retard - business like always

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alias aliasx Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 19,010	Nice execution KB. __________________ https://porncorporation.com

03-03-2010, 01:45 PM	#20
LeRoy Porn Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: It's a dry heat Posts: 13,352	Good exposure for you and your co. Glad to see what works in this industry. <<--oh yah 5k woot woot __________________ JAPANESE CAMS AND CONTENT SITES Teams - leroy.rowland2 Telegram - @lroddd Last edited by LeRoy; 03-03-2010 at 01:46 PM..

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seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	kb still has it. people still fall right into it every time. congrats bizzle. dinner on me next time.

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03-03-2010, 02:44 PM	#32
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,224	Just in case there were still people who didn't realize what a douchebag KB is, he comes in and removes all doubt.

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DAMNMAN Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,440	Ok, here's my unsolicited 2 cents. This was never a 2257 issue as they (The cops, FEDs or Local. don't care what kind of cops they is!!!) already knew the girl was under age. They came looking for her tape and any other proof of underage filming of her and other minors. 2257 safe or any other off site 2257 service wouldn't have helped or stopped anything. Period. I also asked the question years ago to Larry Walters at a panel at Inetrnext if keeping 2257 documentation at a lawyers was the best way to handle this 2257 record keeping. He stated to the crowd of webmasters that was there (Not a direct quote) that he wasn't sure as the law reads as they must be kept at the primary place of business. At the time he didn't recommend keeping 2257 docs at a lawyers office. I don't know if this has changed. Just sayin'. __________________ email: zmaster (at) earthlink.net ICQ: 196678616 ZMASTER One less god!!! I contend that we are both an atheist. I just belive in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. Last edited by DAMNMAN; 03-03-2010 at 02:51 PM..

03-03-2010, 03:41 PM	#41
TheAmericanCannibal Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,086	Also I must say this so you all know where I am coming from. Dirty D is innocent until proven gulity- This has nothing to do with him and everything to do with webmasters who are apathetic and don't cover their asses. If you don't want to use my services, I wish you all the best. i am not here trying to force anything down your throats. If your attorneys have advised you otherwise, listen to your attorneys. However I must say this...most attorney's in this industry are still trying to fight 2257 with the FSC, while they will never overturn their decision, most of these so called "industry attorneys" are working hard lining their pockets with your hard earned money and telling you the sky isn't falling. When in actuality, most of them know what they are doing is futile. You will all see soon, why I am right, and most of you are wrong

03-03-2010, 03:56 PM	#42
Cyber Fucker Hmm Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On an endless road around the world for rock and roll. Posts: 12,642	bwahahaha... what a fucking funny thread __________________

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Overload Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beck's City, North Teutonia Posts: 3,185	once upon a time ... there was a cute puffy nipples booby dirty blond who faked her ID and acted in porn at the age of 16 ... it was in the late 80s ... do YOU remember her name? hmmm??? ok, one can trip over it ... but lets face it, there ARE two sides of the medal ... if the model acts and looks as if legal AND has made up ID card or history ... i better shut up b4 ya get it wrong ... if the producer knows: BANG, BANG! if not ... iuno ... __________________ There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

03-03-2010, 04:10 PM	#45
DAMNMAN Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,440	2257SAFE guy. The insurance question posted above is a good one. I mean if the FEDs show up at your door to check your clients 2257 records and you aren't there between 9 - 5 (working hours) 'cause you went to lunch or you tell them to get a warrant, when they don't need one according to the 2257 laws. Are your clients insured and are their legal bills paid for so they don't do 5 years in prison for non compliance? Just wondering. __________________ email: zmaster (at) earthlink.net ICQ: 196678616 ZMASTER One less god!!! I contend that we are both an atheist. I just belive in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

03-03-2010, 04:12 PM	#47
Supz Arthur Flegenheimer Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 11,057	You are a jerkoff. I would start the same business just to not use yours. I dont give two fucks about Dirty D. You are just a jerkoff.