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Serge_Oprano 12-23-2002 01:39 PM

People like you give us all a bad name. I, for one, wish you weren't representing the adult industry because you make it seem cheap and dirty.
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shit, another Picasso of porn....
yeah, tell me about your porn and it's artistic value...

porn IS cheap and DIRTY and a good way for any retard to make money...

NEXT!

Rory 12-23-2002 01:40 PM

The fact that he made the decision to go back and forth with my brother on that same program thread must have been a 'guess' as well. I have already lost my brother and mother over business shit and he knows it , and the fact that he wants to play a little "O what did I do" is the issue here. This is not someone sharing his opinion on a board, this is someone whos sole intention is to ruin my business or day or whatever and it needs to come to an end.

AaronM 12-23-2002 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colette
There have been many topics on this board that were funny or had cause for smartass remarks and jokes. However, this is also supposed to be a board for webmasters to network and promote eachother, isn't it?

So Rory, fuck Aaron! He is a punk with too much time on his hands. If he truly thinks that this board is here only to talk shit, then that just shows how little of the business he really knows. There is much more to this industry than conventions and lap dances Aaron. People like you give us all a bad name. I, for one, wish you weren't representing the adult industry because you make it seem cheap and dirty.

I applaud Rory for being a businessman and actually testing uncharted territory with CumKaraoke. Not many here would be so bold. And when his site blazes a new trail for everyone to follow, this stupid thread will be a reminder for Aaron that "I knew that guy when...". If the webmasters that read this thread are so small minded that they choose to favor an amateur photographer, who has contributed very little to this business, over a guy that is actually doing his part to make us all some money, than I will avoid those people like the plague!:feels-hot

Colette
Am I allowed to speak?

Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Pohahahaand, OR
Posts: 5


No.

Care to tell everybody your relation to Rory?

Fletch XXX 12-23-2002 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


Your program sucks.


Thats way different than saying he doesnt pay affiliates and shit dude. 'Word on the street in PDX is....' - type of shit.

Again, you tried to convince me his company treats their models bad. And I know some of them, as well as my girl knowing them.

Again man, I have nothing against you, but this is silly.

You purposely tried to make HIM, not his site, look bad. He asked your opinion of his SITE, 'the finished product'

How does the rest of the quoted things in that letter have to do with his site?

Id be pissed too.

Amputate Your Head 12-23-2002 01:45 PM

Quote:

Rory's reply:

"Why bite your tongue? I got most my money back you got some for your troubles...... its all in the past. I would like to hear what your honest opinion is though since you had involvement in it at one time, and I wanna see what you think of the finished product. Slam it if you think it sucks , lemme know what you think of it though.

Rory"
Rory, if you INVITE criticism, don't cry when you get it.

lil2rich4u2 12-23-2002 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano
oh that is total BS ... if you have an argument with your neighbor and it ends up in court .... now you come to GFY and find its posted all over the board, wouldnt you fucking flip????
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how old are you?

in United States of America we have OPEN COURT system and every law suit is a PUBLIC RECORD easily obtained on the internet.

NEXT!


common man, take that wannabe lawyer shit somewhere else ....

i never said its illigal to discuss it here, i said it has no business here.


on another note, i dont know even half the story, but AaronM if i were you, i think i would see that letter as found money man, i mean first you owe him money, then you get a letter saying ytou dont owe him money, lol ... id say "ok peace"


serge, no disrespect intended, just trying to make a point .... if this were my business i would be absolutely furious that it is exposed on a board as heavily traveled as this.

With the exposure this thread has gotten, it can absolutely ruin rory AND AaronM in this biz ..... just saying that is not needed.

sorry to jump on ya




:thumbsup

:2 cents:

fnet 12-23-2002 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rory

Stating an opinion is fine, making false accusations in effort to ruin ones business is not.

Is it possible that you and Aaron both overestimate his credibility and influence?

flashfreak 12-23-2002 01:51 PM

this thread is so fucked up..
almost all who are on AaronM's side know he's wrong but they're kissing his ass... :321GFY

AaronM 12-23-2002 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Thats way different than saying he doesnt pay affiliates and shit dude. 'Word on the street in PDX is....' - type of shit.

Again, you tried to convince me his company treats their models bad. And I know some of them, as well as my girl knowing them.

Again man, I have nothing against you, but this is silly.

You purposely tried to make HIM, not his site, look bad. He asked your opinion of his SITE, 'the finished product'

How does the rest of the quoted things in that letter have to do with his site?

Id be pissed too.

It all directs back to his program. I never said he did not pay his affialiates. Please do not put words in my mouth. I gave feedback about his program based on my opinions AFTER doing business directly with him.

I have review the thread again and I do not see where I tried to convince you of anything. I also checked my ICQ logs and we never discussed it.

If I overlooked something, please let me know. In the meantime....Here is the thred in question.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...pagenu mber=1

Rory 12-23-2002 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


Rory, if you INVITE criticism, don't cry when you get it.

I do invite it, however I dont invite personal medical shit or untrue statements about me paying my affiliates, etc. This is not about someone posting opinions , but posting lies about someones business with the sole intention to harm their business is wrong and I wont take it. Also the fact that my medication is something he feels he needs to continue posting about is garbage as well.

Rory 12-23-2002 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


It all directs back to his program. I never said he did not pay his affialiates. Please do not put words in my mouth. I gave feedback about his program based on my opinions AFTER doing business directly with him.

I have review the thread again and I do not see where I tried to convince you of anything. I also checked my ICQ logs and we never discussed it.

If I overlooked something, please let me know. In the meantime....Here is the thred in question.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...pagenu mber=1

How did Rory screw you exactly? He gave you $2000, you gave him no shoots, you returned $1250 of the $2000 2 months later. Where is Aaron getting screwed here?

Fletch XXX 12-23-2002 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM

If I overlooked something, please let me know. In the meantime....Here is the thred in question.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...pagenu mber=1

I dont have time for this shit.

Im going xmas shopping.

I dont really care.

You dont recall briefly getting into it with me and Cherry over this? regarding SG tattoos etc, and treating mdoels bad? I dont recall what thread.

I remember Unseen and You coming in saying 'word on the street is...' type of things. correct me if I am wrong.

I dont have time to sit here and bicker with you guys, I am on my way out.

Sorry, but I gotta go.

later.

AaronM 12-23-2002 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

on another note, i dont know even half the story, but AaronM if i were you, i think i would see that letter as found money man, i mean first you owe him money, then you get a letter saying ytou dont owe him money, lol ... id say "ok peace"


:thumbsup

:2 cents:

Would you like me to do the research for you? I can quite easily quote the thread where Rory suggested that I keep the $750. He may not have been happy about it but he did suggest it. He even specifically requested $1,250 instead of the 2 grand.

Of course then he started thread, in another attempt to tharm my business, where he complained that he only got $1,250.

All I am saying is that you might want to fully research the issue before you speak on it. You are pretty outspoken for somebody who claims to not want to add to a private issue.

traffictrader 12-23-2002 01:59 PM

in the words of Chris Rock, "I told you that bitch crazy."

pornjudge 12-23-2002 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
It had to happen. Legal action from one GFYer against another. (not me.....yet)

letter to AaronM (mr. mathews) from Rory's lawyer (cumkaroki)


http://www.sleazydream.com/banners/aaron.JPG

LOL, this is so fuckin stupid & waste of time on their part. I love this line they use:

should my client chose to do so, he could sue you now!

What the fuck, they know this would never stand up in court & it would not even take the judge 2 seconds to make a non guilty decision.... I have received similar threatening letters from lawyers in the past about some of my members saying shit about somebody in my adult forums & my reply to the lawyers emails was this little smile :) & I even told the lawyer, you are just another lawyer shooting is mouth!!!

AaronM 12-23-2002 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fnet


Is it possible that you and Aaron both overestimate his credibility and influence?

Nope. Not possible at all.

I am a small fry in this business. Reality and I are quite close friends.

Fletch XXX 12-23-2002 02:00 PM

I just scanned that thread.

Thats not the one.

We were talking about SG tats, and there was talk of 'Word on the street in portland is...'

And talk of money and models.

Different thread.

Again, sorry - but the girl is pulling me out the door

hehehe

Serge_Oprano 12-23-2002 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2



serge, no disrespect intended, just trying to make a point .... if this were my business i would be absolutely furious that it is exposed on a board as heavily traveled as this.


I Serge Birbrair, in my right mind,
been on the boards since 1996 and still hasn't seen a single business destroyed by what was said on the boards.

people, when will you take boards for what they are?

watering hole at best...

I've seen more baord shit than 90% of GFY combined,
I took more shit than 90% of GFY combined...
never slowed me down for a second.

...and I'll sue everybody for causing emotional distress who says it ain't so!
;-)))

post your addresses, motherfuckers, or I'll serve you all thru local newspapers!
;-))))

cherrylula 12-23-2002 02:01 PM

Why exactly do you refer to Rory as a shitty businessman Aaron?

All I recall is he ordered some content from you, paid you money up front, and you failed to produce. And even kept $750 as I keep seeing mentioned.

If you ask me it looks like someone is bitter. Maybe I'm missing something?

You claim people are icqing you asking if Rory pays his affiliates yet you claim you've never said anything of that nature.

If chewbacca lives on endor...:2 cents:

In fact I think I might start pushing cum karaoke, it looks pretty cool.

AaronM 12-23-2002 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rory


I do invite it, however I dont invite personal medical shit or untrue statements about me paying my affiliates, etc. This is not about someone posting opinions , but posting lies about someones business with the sole intention to harm their business is wrong and I wont take it. Also the fact that my medication is something he feels he needs to continue posting about is garbage as well.

Either post proof that I said you do not pay your afialates or shut the fuck up.

As for the medical thing....You asked for my opions and I felt it was reasonable for me to not only express them but to offer an explanation of them as well.

BradShaw 12-23-2002 02:04 PM

Why would you order content from Aaron in the first place? Go buy a $100 digital camera, rent a motel 6 room, put on 100lbs, buy some smelly clothes from goodwill, and shave your head. You can be your own Aaronm for $200.

Serge_Oprano 12-23-2002 02:05 PM

Lensman, YES, I'll sue you too,
you give me penis envy and I can't sleep at nite because of you...

Bonaprone is my witness, he saw me posting at 3 am in the morning!

Lensman,
send me $750 NOW ...or we'll file in Fedral Court in Bagdahd!
;-)))

AaronM 12-23-2002 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rory


How did Rory screw you exactly? He gave you $2000, you gave him no shoots, you returned $1250 of the $2000 2 months later. Where is Aaron getting screwed here?

We had a deal. You could not and or would not follow through with it. You then tried to screw me by bringing the issue to the board.

Do you deny this?

lil2rich4u2 12-23-2002 02:08 PM

"You are pretty outspoken for somebody who claims to not want to add to a private issue."


Not taking any sides whatsoever


You cant quote me once stating that you were wrong, or that rory was wrong .,... i dont think its my place to say.

Serge_Oprano 12-23-2002 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Why would you order content from Aaron in the first place? Go buy a $100 digital camera, rent a motel 6 room, put on a fat soon with some smelly clothes, and shave your head. You can be your own Aaronm for $200.
hahahahahahahahahahaahah,
Brad Shaw is scared of his competition and envyes Oregon porn statues vs Texas porn statues
;-))))

AaronM 12-23-2002 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


I dont have time for this shit.

Im going xmas shopping.

I dont really care.

You dont recall briefly getting into it with me and Cherry over this? regarding SG tattoos etc, and treating mdoels bad? I dont recall what thread.

I remember Unseen and You coming in saying 'word on the street is...' type of things. correct me if I am wrong.

I dont have time to sit here and bicker with you guys, I am on my way out.

Sorry, but I gotta go.

later.

You are confusing two different issues bro. The thread you are referring to had nothing to do with Rory.

Here it is....

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ghlight=spooky

fnet 12-23-2002 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

You dont recall briefly getting into it with me and Cherry over this? regarding SG tattoos etc, and treating mdoels bad? I dont recall what thread.

I remember Unseen and You coming in saying 'word on the street is...' type of things. correct me if I am wrong.

Here ya go.

Edit:: According to Aaron this thread is unrelated.

mrthumbs 12-23-2002 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PureMeds
thats not how a lawyer is suppose to sound?

Ive seen several docs along those lines but that lawyer does not sound very professional... is it just me?

just what i was thinking..

AaronM 12-23-2002 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
Why exactly do you refer to Rory as a shitty businessman Aaron?

All I recall is he ordered some content from you, paid you money up front, and you failed to produce. And even kept $750 as I keep seeing mentioned.

If you ask me it looks like someone is bitter. Maybe I'm missing something?

You claim people are icqing you asking if Rory pays his affiliates yet you claim you've never said anything of that nature.

If chewbacca lives on endor...:2 cents:

In fact I think I might start pushing cum karaoke, it looks pretty cool.

This issue is dead and you do not know the facts.

I never told any potential affialates of his not to do business with him. In fact, I encouraged them to do so.

Serge_Oprano 12-23-2002 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


This issue is dead and you do not know the facts.

I never told any potential affialates of his not to do business with him. In fact, I encouraged them to do so.

fool!!! never encourage anybody to do anything...
if one of those people you encouraged didn't like the results,
they MUST sue your ass!

I would have...

wait 'til chichilla gets pissed and sues you for ENCOURGEMENT!

Rory 12-23-2002 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


We had a deal. You could not and or would not follow through with it. You then tried to screw me by bringing the issue to the board.

Do you deny this?

Are you going to expect someone to believe that our deal included $2000 for you and no content for me? I brought the issue to the board because after talking with you several times and you telling me you will deal with me when you want to. The root of it is if you would have returned the deposit (or at least made an attempt at payment) this woul dhave never been on the boards in the first place. You owed me money , dont make that my fault that you owed me money. You made decisions with your money that, thats fine, but deal with the decisions you made and quit trying to blame me for you not being able to return a deposit. I dont want pissing matches , I dont want drama, just leave our company alone. You can deal with this in a proffessional , its there for your taking, just quit spouting lies and move on.

Also , the reasoning behind statements in regard to having a legal case to sue him is in regard to him witholding fees from a deposit even though there was no mention of it in a written contract. That is where he has broken the law , so please read the letter if you are going to pass judgement on it. The mention of a few of his recent postings was included at the advice of the lawyer (he wrote the letter), however that is a small portion of what has transpired between my company and Aaron.

Serge_Oprano 12-23-2002 02:26 PM

That is where he has broken the law
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which law?
which statues?

can you give the link to the laws he has broken?

if nobody minds,
let's put Aaron in jail...and please note:
I ENCORAGE nobody to do anything
;-))))

Serge_Oprano 12-23-2002 02:30 PM

Also , the reasoning behind statements in regard to having a legal case to sue him is in regard to him witholding fees from a deposit even though there was no mention of it in a written contract.
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according to yopur lawyer, there were NONE written contracts...
it's your word against his ....and 5000 GFYers and their interpretations of unwritten laws

lil2rich4u2 12-23-2002 02:32 PM

omg rory


i am trying so hard not to pass judgment on this and start blurting things out to add to the fires, but common man!!!


let it die!


NOTHING will be resolved on this board.

NOBODY is going to understand your situation and go to AaronM and twist his arm.

EVERYBODY will have something to say about this, and because of that this issue will never die until you quit with the come-backs.


Again, not saying your right, wrong, yellow, or blue .....

Just saying im pretty sure its in both your interests to drop this thread.

Serge_Oprano 12-23-2002 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
omg rory


i am trying so hard not to pass judgment on this and start blurting things out to add to the fires, but common man!!!


let it die!


NOTHING will be resolved on this board.

NOBODY is going to understand your situation and go to AaronM and twist his arm.

EVERYBODY will have something to say about this, and because of that this issue will never die until you quit with the come-backs.


Again, not saying your right, wrong, yellow, or blue .....

Just saying im pretty sure its in both your interests to drop this thread.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if they do that,
I'll have to move to lesser entertaining thread,
and this will be the travesty of justice!

AaronM 12-23-2002 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rory


Are you going to expect someone to believe that our deal included $2000 for you and no content for me? I brought the issue to the board because after talking with you several times and you telling me you will deal with me when you want to. The root of it is if you would have returned the deposit (or at least made an attempt at payment) this woul dhave never been on the boards in the first place. You owed me money , dont make that my fault that you owed me money. You made decisions with your money that, thats fine, but deal with the decisions you made and quit trying to blame me for you not being able to return a deposit. I dont want pissing matches , I dont want drama, just leave our company alone. You can deal with this in a proffessional , its there for your taking, just quit spouting lies and move on.

Also , the reasoning behind statements in regard to having a legal case to sue him is in regard to him witholding fees from a deposit even though there was no mention of it in a written contract. That is where he has broken the law , so please read the letter if you are going to pass judgement on it. The mention of a few of his recent postings was included at the advice of the lawyer (he wrote the letter), however that is a small portion of what has transpired between my company and Aaron.

Your continued harrasment is getting old.

If you are so right then quit running you fucking mouth and sue me. Until then...FUCK OFF!. :321GFY

p1mpdogg 12-23-2002 02:54 PM

FAGGOTS
FAGGOTS
FAGGOTS

Serge_Oprano 12-23-2002 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
FAGGOTS
FAGGOTS
FAGGOTS

people!!! he called me faggot!!!!

you are all witnesses!

my business is now ruined,
let's all sue Aaron!

AaronM 12-23-2002 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano


people!!! he called me faggot!!!!

you are all witnesses!

my business is now ruined,
let's all sue Aaron!

Bring it BIATCH!

I own you!

Serge_Oprano 12-23-2002 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


Bring it BIATCH!

I own you!

Shma Isroel, Adonai aloheinu, Adonai ehat!

I have to consult with God,

see you in court or dinner,

whatever comes first!

;-))

go get him cherulla-shinshilla!

Backov 12-23-2002 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano


I Serge Birbrair, in my right mind,
been on the boards since 1996 and still hasn't seen a single business destroyed by what was said on the boards.

I have, just recently. Remember "dollars4all"?

Cheers,
Backov

Serge_Oprano 12-23-2002 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Backov


I have, just recently. Remember "dollars4all"?

Cheers,
Backov

nope....what was their life span and semi decay cycle?
;-)))

Buzz_11 12-28-2002 06:49 AM

Rory -

For someone who is so concerned with personal maters being discussed here, you sure seem to bring them up often enough...


Quote:

I have already lost my brother and mother over business shit

Everyone makes choices, both business and personal, with differing levels of integrity attached, and accordingly, they must accept responsibility for the repercussions of those choices.

It seems irresponsible to get upset about people bringing up your personal business, when it seems like more often that not you are either the one bringing it to light in the first place, or lending it credence by acknowledging it.

Just an observation

:thumbsup

theking 12-28-2002 07:09 AM

People running affiliate programs have a reason to expose their business on a BB. Those that don't are fools for exposing their business on a BB. After my business quit doing an affiliate program, which was several years ago, I never posted on a BB period, though from time to time I would read the various boards. The person that bought my business is a member of this board but you will never see him post anything about his business, in fact he very rarely posts.

-=HUNGRYMAN=- 12-28-2002 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano


hahahahahahahahahahaahah,
Brad Shaw is scared of his competition and envyes Oregon porn statues vs Texas porn statues
;-))))

Serge !!! You are fukking BEAUTIFUL !!!
I have nothing agaist Lobsterboy ... (or should we now be calling Ron that ?? :eek7), but when I read that remark, I fet obliged to jump on him, but could not think of a remark right away (give me a fukkin break, it is 9:09 am here, and I have not been to bed since yesterday ... lol)

That retort was CLASSIC !!! Well done my crazy comrade !! :thumbsup :thumbsup

AaronM 12-28-2002 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Buzz_11
Rory -

For someone who is so concerned with personal maters being discussed here, you sure seem to bring them up often enough...

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have already lost my brother and mother over business shit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Everyone makes choices, both business and personal, with differing levels of integrity attached, and accordingly, they must accept responsibility for the repercussions of those choices.

It seems irresponsible to get upset about people bringing up your personal business, when it seems like more often that not you are either the one bringing it to light in the first place, or lending it credence by acknowledging it.

Just an observation

:thumbsup

Great...Now I will get to read more shit about how I am getting his brother to post here.

Just an observation.

Buzz_11 12-28-2002 12:00 PM

Yes of course -- I may have forgot to mention -- I am simply a slave to AaronM with no concious thought or opinions of my own.... so please ignore this post

I am a robot..........I am a robot..........I am a robot..........I am a robot..........I am a robot..........I am a robot..........I am a robot..........I am a robot..........I am a robot..........I am a robot..........

:thumbsup

AaronM 12-28-2002 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Buzz_11
Yes of course -- I may have forgot to mention -- I am simply a slave to AaronM with no concious thought or opinions of my own.... so please ignore this post

I am a robot..........I am a robot..........I am a robot..........I am a robot..........I am a robot..........I am a robot..........I am a robot..........I am a robot..........I am a robot..........I am a robot..........

:thumbsup

Good thing you do not have the luxury of being able to voice your own opinions....God only knows what might happen if you did.

Lucky fucking robot.


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